Why do cars still have navigation? In my Volvo PHEV, one reason to use it is called “energy distribution using maps data.” In previous years Volvo called it “predictive energy function.” If your trip or round-trip is further than battery range, and if your route is entered in navigation, the battery is apportioned over the entire trip, wherever advantageous. Besides distance, it even takes into account altitude and traffic. In my experience this can save 10 to 20% on fuel when traveling 100 to 200 miles. (This isn’t widely known because no one reads the owners manual.) A&Z, keep up the good work.
We have owned our GV70 EV since late May 2023 and are wowed with its performance and range. Our range has been at 5.2 km/100 km from May till February 6th, 2024.. 5 % better than advertised and included with Winter driving. The big surprise in range! This car is luxurious and amazing.
While I used Android Auto (mostly Waze) in my Subaru, I am VERY thankful for the built in Nav for 2 reasons. The first, is that Subaru is NOTORIOUS for it's Android Auto and Apple Carplay being flaky. Nearly every longer trip I take it freezes up and stops working. The built in Nav always works. The second reason is that on the highway especially, it's surprisingly good. The exit information, the turn information etc, comes up in color, it's clear, and oftentimes superior to the same info I get on Android Auto. The big drawback is I don't get traffic info. One other thing that is Subaru specific is that I get the turn information on the screen at the top of the dash where it's easy to see while I driving and I don't have to look down at the middle of the dashboard. I don't know about other Nav systems, but maybe people ought to give the built in systems a try because they might be surprised.
Thanks so much for your excellent car reviews. A comment on the car navigation versus phone nav. We have made a few long trips across the US and found both our car nav and phone nav are very useful when combined. We primarily use Google Maps, but have found that the Toyota nav is handy as well. On major highways, the Toyota nav shows information on the next three exits, such as fuel, food, rest stops, and lodging. So if we have been on the road for a while and need a rest stop, we just toggle off of CarPlay on the screen, to the Toyota maps, look for the information we need (Oh the next rest area is 10.6 miles away) and then toggle back to CarPlay. This work great for us.
Regarding the Nav question, In EV's and PHEV's that have adopted Google Automotive (Volvo, Polestar, Honda, some GM, Porsche is coming and others) the navigation data is a key part of the battery management system. Your phone can't fill that role.
Love you guys, very professional and true reviews, as a new car owner/driver, I have learned a lot from you two. I can’t figure out how to post questions on your instagram, waited a long time, but didn’t see the post last Sunday. ( I’m in Montreal, was looking at 10am). 😅 anyone here who has been successful, feel free to share, thank you! 😊
You two are tooooo much! Lots of fun watching your videos! Love it! Thank you for all that you do for us « innocent » drivers/buyers! Keep it up! Remi (Quebec)
On the subject of subcompact cars, Zack gave a good demonstration of why they keep getting bigger: he got into the back seat of the Kona and showed that there was "only" a few inches of space between his knees and the front seatback, and a few inches of headroom - in other words, it was *completely* *adequate* for most back seat occupants, but he gave mediocre hand signals. People are continually being negatively influenced by reviews that bigger is not only better, but necessary.
Another great video! I tried everything imaginable, pared it down to the Santa Fe Calligraphy and X5. My bad back preferred the Hyundai, saved $40,000. Owned it 6 months, 10,000 miles, no issues, 22mpg. *Andrea is a treasure and unrivaled in this community. Zach is a lucky fella.
Vehicles with a staggered wheel setup do have different rim sizes; it's not just the tire size. That being said, an all season tire will last significantly longer than a summer tire. Michelin Latitude comes to mind. 42k on a Macan and they look great.
As a 2012 Honda Fit owner the last 11 years, for a subcompact, I have more interior driver/passenger and cargo space than most compacts, especially the Civic and Corolla! It was so well designed in it's efficient use of interior space, I've brought so many large items home, like large IKEA furniture packs and wrapped up 9' real Christmas trees INSIDE with the doors closed that others swear they would need a minivan or large SUV to carry. I'm holding on to my Fit as long as it runs and will be sad the day I have to move on from it!
I almost got a Fit for my spouse in ‘20, but I decided not to. We live in a town with a lot of large pickup trucks and a 50+ speed limit. The Fit wouldn’t stand a chance against an F-150 doing 60-70 mph. And we’d seen some horrendous accidents.
@@TheLanard Fair enough, but being much smaller and lighter, especially with the manual transmission, you'd be surprised how nimble and responsive handling wise it is for avoiding collisions, which I can attest to! It's also got the full compliment or air bags everywhere and pretty well designed crumple structure that I've never not felt confident in it, and it's my highway 100-120 km/h commute car too!
You see very few around anymore (unlike Civics) because owners ultimately didn't like how noisy and poor-riding the Fit was, including terrible seats, regardless of how much stuff you could carry.
@@kenhoward3512 You must be in the States because up here in Canada they sold relatively well and there are still plenty around. In fact they still command a decent premium on the used market up here. And having driven one for over 2000,000 kms, the ride is fine, so I have no idea what you're on about. Unless you're expecting luxury car ride from a subcompact or even compact class, which would be a "you" problem. No worse than any Civic I've ever owned and driven and still far better than any full size pickup that so many people still drive as their daily commuter car. And noisy? Again, I bought transportation not a sound proof isolation booth. Besides, I listen to music when driving, not my car.
Car nav is incredibly useful when your smartphone starts acting up! My Android recently went into a boot loop while i was using it for navigation and became unusable (had to replace it at the end of the day) and i didn't have any navigation built into the car and i was in a proper fix. So yeah, though car nav systems look old compared to the latest and the greatest from google, i still appreciate them. No reason to give the manufacturers any reasons to remove even more options...
I wouldn’t mind a watch check at the beginning of QC&C! I’m a watch guy too. It’s nice to see I’m not the only one who notices. My most worn of 2023 was my Speedmaster in the first half, and then my Black Bay Pro in the latter half.
Great Q, C & C episode. I’ve made the very same mistake swapping over my Winter tyres on my (past) 7-series… once (never again?). Your impressions on the Durango are noted, and appreciated (as a well seasoned automotive journalist, turned RUclips Star(s)). Thanks for the video.
0:25 Small cars: They are produced for elsewhere in the world where government regulations don't favour big cars and SUV's. The 4th gen Fit exists as the Jazz and Jazz Crosstour, the Mark VIII Golf non-GTI is sold elsewhere in the world, the Yaris is global except North America etc etc etc. There is a kind of truth that small cars are expensive to produce in that all cars are more expensive to produce now that what constitutes an entry-level car is already a high starting point, but it's simply not true that they can't make good small cars because they do so in other countries where the regs aren't as lax as in North America.
I agree !00 percent Factory Nav is a waste of money these days, I think Chevy is crazy getting rid of CarPlay and Android Auto. Your channel is the best car review channel and enjoy it a lot :)
With every redesign, the OEMs always makes each model bigger. It’s so they can show they are “improving” the car. Then eventually they slot in a new model into its entry level.
8:29 I have a CR-V PHEV, and the built-in navigation is far superior to the Waze/Google Maps ones on Android. I did connect my phone to the car, I have traffic information displayed in it, the car knows about charging stations and can even optimize the EV mode for the trip. Also, it can adjust the speed for turns based on the navigation data. I don't think I'll get back to Waze/Google Maps for as long as I have the car.
All navigation systems need to be used with your wits about you! Sometimes the spoken instructions don't match the displayed route. Once I was told to take the next left, but the displayed route was to pass the street on the left, turn right over a bridge, then turn left.
We drove our Highlander Hybrid halfway across the U.S. and back last summer and it was simply fantastic. It fell a little short of its rated gas mileage (~2MPG) but we climbed the Sierra Nevada and Rockies going each way and took a few backroads as well.
Love your Reviews, but when it comes to Navigation, I will take my KIA Seltos Navigation over phone maps anytime. KIA's maps are accurate and DO show road congestion/traffic in real-time. Different strokes. If I was jumping from car to car, then yes, I would obviously prefer to use my iPhone than learn a New system in some car. That said, from Day 1 in 2021 (3 map updates since then) the KIA Seltos Navigation reminded me of Apple, in that it was Intuitive and quickly understood by me.
My CX5 on board navigation system has better street level graphics. And I don't have to worry about an internet connection cutting out since it communicates directly with satellites.
One side note on the navigation issue is the price of data on your phone in Canada and dead zones. Phone reception regularly cuts out in the corridor between Ottawa and Kingston. If you are using nav you can miss a turn or 2. If you travel in the mountains north of Montreal the same thing. The native nav in cars I’ve been in don’t seem to lose their signal as much. I agree that voice command nav on your phone is the best (can still take you on a funny route) but it is not perfect. Some older buyers would not necessarily have phones that would integrate with nav on apple car play or android auto that well. Just a thought.
I wish more consumers liked and auto companies would build sedans with separate and lockable trunks. An SUV or crossover doesn’t have the security for the contents in the rear area. Thieves break into the SUV or crossover, they are in the trunk. The rear and side windows on the rear hatchback can be broken and they’re in the trunk, not to give anyone ideas!
My mazda3’s navigation system is useful when i don’t have signal in some rural areas with poor signal. If you lose your phone and need to go home, you will appreciate it a lot.
Just wait till you crosss the border and use the phone google map app to find your direction. That massive cell phone bill at the end of the month will make you appreciate the car built-in nav system.
Thanks, as always great video. For Google Maps you can download offline maps so that if you are somewhere without cell service can still navigate, just without the traffic info.
One point of correction, depending on brand, some manufacturers onboard nav actually connects to LTE services. My audi connects to LTE and updates real time.
The bigger these cars get, the less you can fit them into your garage. I buy cars on if it fits in my garage, if it doesn’t fit, I’m not buying it. My current car is 189 inches long and it barely fits.
The factory Nav in my Explorer works with Sirius XM to give live routes. Having said that I did not keep a subscription due to the predatory practices of Sirius XM pertaining to how they dealt with my subscriptions when moving it from car to car.
Tesla nav essentially is google now, which is better than the original Tesla system, but it's a good point Zack made that chargers are integrated and the nav is tied to preheating of the battery.
Totally agree about Nav in the car. It's more convenient easier to update on your phone/device. The old days when you updated via a CD was expensive and troublesome. Oh, also why is it some come wired car play and some don't for almost the exact same car? Is it cost? Or the head unit? It doesn't appear to be consistent...
For Hyundai/Kia/Genesis, it was simply a years long battle with Apple over who gets priority on the main screen on startup. Seriously. They supposedly came to an agreement and are now offering wireless but will it come to existing cars? Hyundai has shown through their aggressive design changes that they don't care about past models...
Staggered uusally means that the wheels are wider or the rear has a lower offset than the front , or both. So changing to all the same tire size does not mean you have eliminated the staggered set up. If thats the case, the rear wheels need to stay on the back and the front on the front, regardless of tire sizes.
Tesla onboard navigation works the same as CarPlay or android auto because it’s based on Google and is updated in real time as well. Probably a few other manufacturers do this as well with the new Google system.
Maybe Zach should start to color/style coordinate the watch he wears depending on the car your guys test drive. Andrea puts in the work to color coordinate her wardrobe. 👍
I think it's a shame that they don't make something more entry level / smaller than the Corolla / Civic so people who can't afford those can still get a new car. Especially with how expensive used cars are these days.
I don't think making compact cars a little smaller will cut much of the price. Base models already cost a lot less than higher trims - but who wants to drive a base model? Excessive, world-wide inflation during the pandemic kicked the prices way up, and I don't think they will be coming down much. Over time, wages will have to catch up.
Thanks...some reviews say a lot but tell me nothing 🤔 You guys stay in your lanes...when not sure or don't know ..that is what you tell me. You rarely offer sweeping generalizations. So many cant wait to bash CVTs....they have a purpose and place... in some applications they are superior. There is an ideal form of use to any vehicle you 2 clearly honor that.👍
I disagree on the navigation, it's nice to have both..... it's good to have something that's integral that's not dependent on the phone. I've found my navigation to be perfectly adequate in most circumstances. Sometimes screws up and send you the wrong or less desirable route, but so does my phone occasionally. My system, though now considered ancient, gives reasonably up-to-date traffic conditions as well. Regarding the cost, all of these vehicles cost so much to begin with, so to me it is unthinkable that they wouldn't include that for what you're paying...... and if they did get rid of it they're not going to pass on the savings to you anyway. What have people been smoking? Why the hate? The car companies are always looking for opportunities and would love to do more decontenting --and charge you the same or more..... don't give them any ideas!
Genesis is rolling out wireless AA/Car play to 2022 vehicles so they are able to be upgraded...but only in Europe so far. The hardware is there...they just had to finish their fight with Apple first, which they recently did. We may see wireless updates for existing vehicles!
What about our Canadian electric network? 🇨🇦 What do you guys think? Is it able to provide enough electricity by the time everyone needs to have an electric vehicle? Especially in winter time. We got an province wide alarm here in Alberta about reducing electricity usage. And if so, how much will prices of electricity skyrocket? Will they make electricity in general ridiculously expensive? Will people have to install sun/solar panels on their houses mandatory etc? Seeing this happening a lot in The Netherlands and it is already getting to a ridiculous point there. I think the province wide alarm in Alberta about possible power outages says it all. People were asked to cut down on electricity usage because the network couldn’t handle the demand that day during extreme cold. Love your show! Keep up the good work! 🇨🇦❤️🔥🇨🇦
I saw your show at the Japan Car Show ,Toyota execs were asked about why the smallest vehicles were discontinued.Their answer was …Governments are concerned about the safety of the smallest Cars,so they are being discontinued in NAmerica.
I have had a Carplay wireless dongle for several years. No problems except when on a long car trip my iPhone runs out of battery from running navigation for hours. End up plugging in anyway! No big deal.
One major reason there's no more subcompact cars is the fuel economy regulations in the US. They require better fuel efficiency from cars with smaller footprints. Larger footprint vehicles can meet lower fuel efficiency standards.
All these replies are true. And if I may add, many Americans drive big SUVs because of a false sense of safety. They think they would be safe while driving so they take more risk in bad driving behaviors. And if they crash into someone driving a smaller vehicles, too bad for them, especially if they cause serious injury/damage - or even killing the other driver. Many of these big SUV drivers are also more discourteous, rude, and oblivious to the rules and laws of the road - again, as mentioned here, because of feeling superior to everyone else.
That's not why. It's because they are more practical and versatile. You can haul things when you need to, they come with AWD (usually), they are higher up to the ground which gives more options to where you can drive, you can car camp in them, better for families and pets, and they are making them better to drive than in the past. Car companies are making them better and better. Compact cars don't offer as much in many ways. Why have something do 5 things when it could do 10?
Oh Zach, wah wah! I'm a woman who is much older than you and I swap my own tires twice a year (winter/summer). You can do it! Use a medium sized pry bar. No need to lift the wheels.
Another great segment. Keep them coming. Thanks for your thorough insights on the car industry. BTW, for the record, I always look to see what watch Zack is wearing. Must be a guy thing. LOL
Hello, Great show keep up with the awesome show. With the growing number of car thefts across Canada, from Toyota rav4, Honda crv, Lexus rx series and all other high end cars. Why isn't subarus on that list of top cars stolen. Are the cars not shipped over seas, with the rough terrain, isn't subaru good for theives to steel for where it's being shipped? Just curious. Thanks Edy
Yes, close (+/- tenths of an inch) in wheelbase to the Grand Cherokee L, but not longer overall (bumper to bumper) than some of other larger unibody SUVs such as Traverse/Enclave which are + a few inches. It beats the Grand Highlander in that overall length measurement but just by tenths.
Wow surprised you chose the floaty Highlander. I did not like my 2020 XLE road manners driving Parleys Canyon. Maybe the Limited with 20's handles better?
I don’t know if CarPlay or Android Auto Navigation works on a heads up display, could be another reason to keep onboard Nav. I think in the future all info will be displayed on a HUD
One note... I don't think the Genesis GV70 battery would be a problem. If the battery is the same as the Ioniq, it'd be around $50,000... for the Ioniq that's a problem because that's more than the cost of the vehicle... so insurance will total the car. The GV70 is much more expensive than $50,000, so insurance companies wouldn't total the vehicle.
So far, every Hyundai or Kia with the new software is getting wireless carplay, either at release or with a confirmed USB update. Owners have confirmed it works after the latest USB update around a month ago, so it's nice that they're being consistent with CCNC. That said, I think it's a bit annoying to wait for them to facelift or refresh vehicles to get the new software. If you buy an $80000 Genesis now, you don't get wireless carplay. You have to wait for the refreshed model that is being released next year. I think they should figure out a way to allow the previous software to also be updated with wireless carplay. There's a vocal minority feeling understandably left out. The dongle is fine in theory, but the audio quality versus wired or wireless carplay is pretty bad.
Re the volkswagon, what about these all weather tires? Can they go on electric cars? I’m hearing the tires are expensive? If so why? What’s the difference?
Pretty sure GM is not including apple car play in their new cars. And, my navigation system in my BMW looks better than my iphone navigation. It shows a camera view when it is time to turn.
If you could just swap for refurbished prebalanced batteries, it should reduce cost as they then take the old damaged battery, replace and balance internal modules and sell it to the next customer.
Other Canadian auto reviews are fine. They're not the best. There can only be one best. Thanks Andrea and Zack.
To me, a midsize should not have three rows, because full size has three rows.
PS….Andrea is an awesome lady 👍😊
Haha, loved the X5 vs Cayenne exchange and Zack changing his mind for all those great X5 reasons!
That's because Zack did not want to sleep in the Shed 😁
Why do cars still have navigation? In my Volvo PHEV, one reason to use it is called “energy distribution using maps data.” In previous years Volvo called it “predictive energy function.” If your trip or round-trip is further than battery range, and if your route is entered in navigation, the battery is apportioned over the entire trip, wherever advantageous. Besides distance, it even takes into account altitude and traffic. In my experience this can save 10 to 20% on fuel when traveling 100 to 200 miles. (This isn’t widely known because no one reads the owners manual.)
A&Z, keep up the good work.
We have owned our GV70 EV since late May 2023 and are wowed with its performance and range. Our range has been at 5.2 km/100 km from May till February 6th, 2024.. 5 % better than advertised and included with Winter driving. The big surprise in range! This car is luxurious and amazing.
Andre your granny walk impression was the cutest thing I'll see today. You lifted my spirits 😆! Thank you
So nice to see so many people walking around in your neighborhood....love seeing that.
Built-in nav is a must for long road trips with spotty cell coverage. Also, it spares your phone from overheating in those cases.
You guys are awesome. Love the banter back and forth and your content is always on point and relevant.
Just want say no one could replace the two of you Love the showw.
Awe thanks!
While I used Android Auto (mostly Waze) in my Subaru, I am VERY thankful for the built in Nav for 2 reasons. The first, is that Subaru is NOTORIOUS for it's Android Auto and Apple Carplay being flaky. Nearly every longer trip I take it freezes up and stops working. The built in Nav always works. The second reason is that on the highway especially, it's surprisingly good. The exit information, the turn information etc, comes up in color, it's clear, and oftentimes superior to the same info I get on Android Auto. The big drawback is I don't get traffic info. One other thing that is Subaru specific is that I get the turn information on the screen at the top of the dash where it's easy to see while I driving and I don't have to look down at the middle of the dashboard.
I don't know about other Nav systems, but maybe people ought to give the built in systems a try because they might be surprised.
I like the built-in because it allows me to see my surroundings without depending on my phone.
Are you describing the TomTom nav?
@@richardepstein3494 I was.
Where I live, nav is worthless without traffic.
Thanks so much for your excellent car reviews. A comment on the car navigation versus phone nav. We have made a few long trips across the US and found both our car nav and phone nav are very useful when combined. We primarily use Google Maps, but have found that the Toyota nav is handy as well. On major highways, the Toyota nav shows information on the next three exits, such as fuel, food, rest stops, and lodging. So if we have been on the road for a while and need a rest stop, we just toggle off of CarPlay on the screen, to the Toyota maps, look for the information we need (Oh the next rest area is 10.6 miles away) and then toggle back to CarPlay. This work great for us.
This ^^. Don't like it, don't use it. They're not going to charge you less for the car if they get rid of it anyway.
Regarding the Nav question, In EV's and PHEV's that have adopted Google Automotive (Volvo, Polestar, Honda, some GM, Porsche is coming and others) the navigation data is a key part of the battery management system. Your phone can't fill that role.
This really is like a great talk show. Thanks for the content, knowledge and laughs. And thanks for sharing more about yourselves.
Best decision Zack made way back when was to partner with Andrea. I'm curious how many new subscribers since that day?
Love you guys, very professional and true reviews, as a new car owner/driver, I have learned a lot from you two. I can’t figure out how to post questions on your instagram, waited a long time, but didn’t see the post last Sunday. ( I’m in Montreal, was looking at 10am). 😅 anyone here who has been successful, feel free to share, thank you! 😊
You two are tooooo much! Lots of fun watching your videos! Love it! Thank you for all that you do for us « innocent » drivers/buyers! Keep it up! Remi (Quebec)
Thanks Remi!
On the subject of subcompact cars, Zack gave a good demonstration of why they keep getting bigger: he got into the back seat of the Kona and showed that there was "only" a few inches of space between his knees and the front seatback, and a few inches of headroom - in other words, it was *completely* *adequate* for most back seat occupants, but he gave mediocre hand signals. People are continually being negatively influenced by reviews that bigger is not only better, but necessary.
Another great video!
I tried everything imaginable, pared it down to the Santa Fe Calligraphy and X5. My bad back preferred the Hyundai, saved $40,000. Owned it 6 months, 10,000 miles, no issues, 22mpg.
*Andrea is a treasure and unrivaled in this community. Zach is a lucky fella.
I have a 2022 KIA Carnival SX (US) and the onboard nav does update for traffic, etc. It is powered by TomTom.
Another fun episode of QCC, thanks! I kinda like wired Andriod Auto cause my music sounds so good directly from my phone.
Thanks guys, the best as always. Comment in support of the channel, keep up the great work and waiting for the cx 70! Had cx 7, now cx5, excited
Looking forward to sharing our First Look video on Tuesday, the 30th.
correct we dont need more. but you guys are the best cuz you always make me laugh along with great info. Thanks.
Vehicles with a staggered wheel setup do have different rim sizes; it's not just the tire size. That being said, an all season tire will last significantly longer than a summer tire. Michelin Latitude comes to mind. 42k on a Macan and they look great.
As a 2012 Honda Fit owner the last 11 years, for a subcompact, I have more interior driver/passenger and cargo space than most compacts, especially the Civic and Corolla! It was so well designed in it's efficient use of interior space, I've brought so many large items home, like large IKEA furniture packs and wrapped up 9' real Christmas trees INSIDE with the doors closed that others swear they would need a minivan or large SUV to carry. I'm holding on to my Fit as long as it runs and will be sad the day I have to move on from it!
I almost got a Fit for my spouse in ‘20, but I decided not to. We live in a town with a lot of large pickup trucks and a 50+ speed limit. The Fit wouldn’t stand a chance against an F-150 doing 60-70 mph. And we’d seen some horrendous accidents.
@@TheLanard Fair enough, but being much smaller and lighter, especially with the manual transmission, you'd be surprised how nimble and responsive handling wise it is for avoiding collisions, which I can attest to! It's also got the full compliment or air bags everywhere and pretty well designed crumple structure that I've never not felt confident in it, and it's my highway 100-120 km/h commute car too!
You see very few around anymore (unlike Civics) because owners ultimately didn't like how noisy and poor-riding the Fit was, including terrible seats, regardless of how much stuff you could carry.
@@kenhoward3512 You must be in the States because up here in Canada they sold relatively well and there are still plenty around. In fact they still command a decent premium on the used market up here. And having driven one for over 2000,000 kms, the ride is fine, so I have no idea what you're on about. Unless you're expecting luxury car ride from a subcompact or even compact class, which would be a "you" problem. No worse than any Civic I've ever owned and driven and still far better than any full size pickup that so many people still drive as their daily commuter car. And noisy? Again, I bought transportation not a sound proof isolation booth. Besides, I listen to music when driving, not my car.
My 09 fit holds more than my 19 civic hatch
We love our Highlander for the comfort, but in all honesty, I kinda wish I had a Durango with a hemi😅
Car nav is incredibly useful when your smartphone starts acting up! My Android recently went into a boot loop while i was using it for navigation and became unusable (had to replace it at the end of the day) and i didn't have any navigation built into the car and i was in a proper fix. So yeah, though car nav systems look old compared to the latest and the greatest from google, i still appreciate them. No reason to give the manufacturers any reasons to remove even more options...
I wouldn’t mind a watch check at the beginning of QC&C! I’m a watch guy too. It’s nice to see I’m not the only one who notices. My most worn of 2023 was my Speedmaster in the first half, and then my Black Bay Pro in the latter half.
Nice pieces!
Just one more to the magic 60th anniversary edition. Great content as always and fun too 🎉
Great Q, C & C episode. I’ve made the very same mistake swapping over my Winter tyres on my (past) 7-series… once (never again?). Your impressions on the Durango are noted, and appreciated (as a well seasoned automotive journalist, turned RUclips Star(s)). Thanks for the video.
333,000 (and counting) Fans/Subscribers can’t be wrong…
Thanks for sharing!
0:25 Small cars: They are produced for elsewhere in the world where government regulations don't favour big cars and SUV's. The 4th gen Fit exists as the Jazz and Jazz Crosstour, the Mark VIII Golf non-GTI is sold elsewhere in the world, the Yaris is global except North America etc etc etc. There is a kind of truth that small cars are expensive to produce in that all cars are more expensive to produce now that what constitutes an entry-level car is already a high starting point, but it's simply not true that they can't make good small cars because they do so in other countries where the regs aren't as lax as in North America.
I agree !00 percent Factory Nav is a waste of money these days, I think Chevy is crazy getting rid of CarPlay and Android Auto. Your channel is the best car review channel and enjoy it a lot :)
With every redesign, the OEMs always makes each model bigger. It’s so they can show they are “improving” the car. Then eventually they slot in a new model into its entry level.
8:29 I have a CR-V PHEV, and the built-in navigation is far superior to the Waze/Google Maps ones on Android. I did connect my phone to the car, I have traffic information displayed in it, the car knows about charging stations and can even optimize the EV mode for the trip. Also, it can adjust the speed for turns based on the navigation data. I don't think I'll get back to Waze/Google Maps for as long as I have the car.
All navigation systems need to be used with your wits about you! Sometimes the spoken instructions don't match the displayed route. Once I was told to take the next left, but the displayed route was to pass the street on the left, turn right over a bridge, then turn left.
Honestly, this episode was excellent for the extra content!!
We drove our Highlander Hybrid halfway across the U.S. and back last summer and it was simply fantastic. It fell a little short of its rated gas mileage (~2MPG) but we climbed the Sierra Nevada and Rockies going each way and took a few backroads as well.
Love your Reviews, but when it comes to Navigation, I will take my KIA Seltos Navigation over phone maps anytime. KIA's maps are accurate and DO show road congestion/traffic in real-time. Different strokes. If I was jumping from car to car, then yes, I would obviously prefer to use my iPhone than learn a New system in some car. That said, from Day 1 in 2021 (3 map updates since then) the KIA Seltos Navigation reminded me of Apple, in that it was Intuitive and quickly understood by me.
My CX5 on board navigation system has better street level graphics. And I don't have to worry about an internet connection cutting out since it communicates directly with satellites.
Your navigation is so card based. My 2016 cx5 navigation is so card. I have to update it sometime soon
One side note on the navigation issue is the price of data on your phone in Canada and dead zones. Phone reception regularly cuts out in the corridor between Ottawa and Kingston. If you are using nav you can miss a turn or 2. If you travel in the mountains north of Montreal the same thing. The native nav in cars I’ve been in don’t seem to lose their signal as much.
I agree that voice command nav on your phone is the best (can still take you on a funny route) but it is not perfect. Some older buyers would not necessarily have phones that would integrate with nav on apple car play or android auto that well.
Just a thought.
Built-in navigation is good to have for those traveling in rural areas. You can't always rely on your phone for good service.
It depends on the car. Some of the on board nav. is great.
Just look at how big strollers are now, along with the need for seats/boosters for such a long time.
I wish more consumers liked and auto companies would build sedans with separate and lockable trunks. An SUV or crossover doesn’t have the security for the contents in the rear area. Thieves break into the SUV or crossover, they are in the trunk. The rear and side windows on the rear hatchback can be broken and they’re in the trunk, not to give anyone ideas!
My mazda3’s navigation system is useful when i don’t have signal in some rural areas with poor signal. If you lose your phone and need to go home, you will appreciate it a lot.
Just wait till you crosss the border and use the phone google map app to find your direction.
That massive cell phone bill at the end of the month will make you appreciate the car built-in nav system.
Yeah, I’ve wondered the same. A bit redundant and way inferior to the apps on the phone
Thanks, as always great video. For Google Maps you can download offline maps so that if you are somewhere without cell service can still navigate, just without the traffic info.
For remote locations, you do not need a GPS either, maps can be pre-loaded for offline use on your phone via Google Maps or Apple Maps.
7:00 am REGARDLESS of time zone: I don’t think so 😳 being retired and all… love your channel yet on MY time 👍😁
This was a great episode. I loved the banter between the two of you.
One point of correction, depending on brand, some manufacturers onboard nav actually connects to LTE services. My audi connects to LTE and updates real time.
The bigger these cars get, the less you can fit them into your garage. I buy cars on if it fits in my garage, if it doesn’t fit, I’m not buying it. My current car is 189 inches long and it barely fits.
The factory Nav in my Explorer works with Sirius XM to give live routes. Having said that I did not keep a subscription due to the predatory practices of Sirius XM pertaining to how they dealt with my subscriptions when moving it from car to car.
Tesla nav essentially is google now, which is better than the original Tesla system, but it's a good point Zack made that chargers are integrated and the nav is tied to preheating of the battery.
Totally agree about Nav in the car. It's more convenient easier to update on your phone/device. The old days when you updated via a CD was expensive and troublesome.
Oh, also why is it some come wired car play and some don't for almost the exact same car? Is it cost? Or the head unit? It doesn't appear to be consistent...
Head unit is supplied by a third party supplier. Supplier needs updated SOCs from their chip suppliers.
For Hyundai/Kia/Genesis, it was simply a years long battle with Apple over who gets priority on the main screen on startup. Seriously. They supposedly came to an agreement and are now offering wireless but will it come to existing cars? Hyundai has shown through their aggressive design changes that they don't care about past models...
Staggered uusally means that the wheels are wider or the rear has a lower offset than the front , or both. So changing to all the same tire size does not mean you have eliminated the staggered set up. If thats the case, the rear wheels need to stay on the back and the front on the front, regardless of tire sizes.
At 0:52, the refreshed Fiat 500 electric is coming soon to North America. It is doing very well in Europe. One of the best sellers there.
Tesla onboard navigation works the same as CarPlay or android auto because it’s based on Google and is updated in real time as well. Probably a few other manufacturers do this as well with the new Google system.
Its does but no apple car play, so no Waze...although I have seen videos that they are adding their own version...
Another great video and great information from you guys!! Keep up the great work 👍👍
Maybe Zach should start to color/style coordinate the watch he wears depending on the car your guys test drive. Andrea puts in the work to color coordinate her wardrobe. 👍
I think it's a shame that they don't make something more entry level / smaller than the Corolla / Civic so people who can't afford those can still get a new car. Especially with how expensive used cars are these days.
I don't think making compact cars a little smaller will cut much of the price. Base models already cost a lot less than higher trims - but who wants to drive a base model? Excessive, world-wide inflation during the pandemic kicked the prices way up, and I don't think they will be coming down much. Over time, wages will have to catch up.
Americans want you to buy a subcompact crossover SUV instead
If you taking cross country trip highlander luxury or not it won't break down great ride
Factory navigation comes in handy when you are in an area with no cell coverage. I use Waze all of the time, but sometimes, the data is not available.
True for Waze, but both Google Maps and Apple Maps allow you to download maps in advance, for exactly this scenario.
I change my own oil, even thought I'm in a Wheelchair. I get down on the ground and do it myself.
Thanks...some reviews say a lot but tell me nothing 🤔
You guys stay in your lanes...when not sure or don't know
..that is what you tell me. You rarely offer sweeping generalizations.
So many cant wait to bash CVTs....they have a purpose and place...
in some applications they are superior. There is an ideal form of use
to any vehicle you 2 clearly honor that.👍
I disagree on the navigation, it's nice to have both..... it's good to have something that's integral that's not dependent on the phone. I've found my navigation to be perfectly adequate in most circumstances. Sometimes screws up and send you the wrong or less desirable route, but so does my phone occasionally. My system, though now considered ancient, gives reasonably up-to-date traffic conditions as well. Regarding the cost, all of these vehicles cost so much to begin with, so to me it is unthinkable that they wouldn't include that for what you're paying...... and if they did get rid of it they're not going to pass on the savings to you anyway. What have people been smoking? Why the hate? The car companies are always looking for opportunities and would love to do more decontenting --and charge you the same or more..... don't give them any ideas!
Genesis is rolling out wireless AA/Car play to 2022 vehicles so they are able to be upgraded...but only in Europe so far. The hardware is there...they just had to finish their fight with Apple first, which they recently did. We may see wireless updates for existing vehicles!
Yessss... Durango R/T Tow-N-Go!!! 😁
I only wear Maui Jim’s and they stand behind their sunglasses
What about our Canadian electric network? 🇨🇦 What do you guys think? Is it able to provide enough electricity by the time everyone needs to have an electric vehicle? Especially in winter time. We got an province wide alarm here in Alberta about reducing electricity usage. And if so, how much will prices of electricity skyrocket? Will they make electricity in general ridiculously expensive? Will people have to install sun/solar panels on their houses mandatory etc? Seeing this happening a lot in The Netherlands and it is already getting to a ridiculous point there.
I think the province wide alarm in Alberta about possible power outages says it all. People were asked to cut down on electricity usage because the network couldn’t handle the demand that day during extreme cold. Love your show! Keep up the good work! 🇨🇦❤️🔥🇨🇦
I saw your show at the Japan Car Show ,Toyota execs were asked about why the smallest vehicles were discontinued.Their answer was …Governments are concerned about the safety of the smallest Cars,so they are being discontinued in NAmerica.
And fuel economy regulations.
Yes, shoes 👠 usually cost less than the watches that Zack likes 😂. Although some shoes are in $1,000 range 😮.
I'm a watch guy, too, and Zack's watches are way over $1,000. lol
You can only wear one pair of shoes at a time....
@@Motormouth..., haha 😂
We need a new segment, men’s accessories…
I have had a Carplay wireless dongle for several years. No problems except when on a long car trip my iPhone runs out of battery from running navigation for hours. End up plugging in anyway! No big deal.
One major reason there's no more subcompact cars is the fuel economy regulations in the US. They require better fuel efficiency from cars with smaller footprints. Larger footprint vehicles can meet lower fuel efficiency standards.
Part of the reason why people in North America want bigger vehicles is because people in North America ARE getting bigger as well.
lol, my wife’s sister is American and ain’t that the truth.
Cheers NZ.
Bigger cars to make small people feel bigger
I don’t think so! Any stats or facts to back that up? It’s more like…superiority complex!
All these replies are true. And if I may add, many Americans drive big SUVs because of a false sense of safety. They think they would be safe while driving so they take more risk in bad driving behaviors. And if they crash into someone driving a smaller vehicles, too bad for them, especially if they cause serious injury/damage - or even killing the other driver.
Many of these big SUV drivers are also more discourteous, rude, and oblivious to the rules and laws of the road - again, as mentioned here, because of feeling superior to everyone else.
That's not why. It's because they are more practical and versatile. You can haul things when you need to, they come with AWD (usually), they are higher up to the ground which gives more options to where you can drive, you can car camp in them, better for families and pets, and they are making them better to drive than in the past. Car companies are making them better and better. Compact cars don't offer as much in many ways. Why have something do 5 things when it could do 10?
Oh Zach, wah wah! I'm a woman who is much older than you and I swap my own tires twice a year (winter/summer). You can do it! Use a medium sized pry bar. No need to lift the wheels.
The snow is gone !
All gone it's now 14 degrees celsius here!
Another great segment. Keep them coming. Thanks for your thorough insights on the car industry. BTW, for the record, I always look to see what watch Zack is wearing. Must be a guy thing. LOL
Hello,
Great show keep up with the awesome show. With the growing number of car thefts across Canada, from Toyota rav4, Honda crv, Lexus rx series and all other high end cars. Why isn't subarus on that list of top cars stolen. Are the cars not shipped over seas, with the rough terrain, isn't subaru good for theives to steel for where it's being shipped? Just curious. Thanks Edy
I was surprised to find that the CX-90’s wheelbase is a huge 122.8”. 9-11” more than the top 4 you had in your other video.
Yes, close (+/- tenths of an inch) in wheelbase to the Grand Cherokee L, but not longer overall (bumper to bumper) than some of other larger unibody SUVs such as Traverse/Enclave which are + a few inches. It beats the Grand Highlander in that overall length measurement but just by tenths.
Then you get the most bang for your buck with the Mazda CX-90 in terms of interior space. It’s the lowest cost 3-row SUV.
Wow surprised you chose the floaty Highlander. I did not like my 2020 XLE road manners driving Parleys Canyon. Maybe the Limited with 20's handles better?
Oh it's definitely floaty but just so comfortable for a long drive. It's not engaging at all, just thinking about comfort level.
The Hyundai Venue is still a small sub compact vehicle. I love mine
BMW on board NAV in the 3 series does have live traffic. I prefer to use it over my phone.
I don’t know if CarPlay or Android Auto Navigation works on a heads up display, could be another reason to keep onboard Nav. I think in the future all info will be displayed on a HUD
Hi both, I am confused with hybrid Corolla AWD and hybrid Elantra as my daily city car. Which one is best for long term usage.
Thank you
One note... I don't think the Genesis GV70 battery would be a problem.
If the battery is the same as the Ioniq, it'd be around $50,000... for the Ioniq that's a problem because that's more than the cost of the vehicle... so insurance will total the car.
The GV70 is much more expensive than $50,000, so insurance companies wouldn't total the vehicle.
Andrea, what brand of coffee cup insert is in your console?
Yeah the Versa is actually a really nice car for $20,000 or whatever!
Have a question for you what camera are you using when you to are filming in the car.
So far, every Hyundai or Kia with the new software is getting wireless carplay, either at release or with a confirmed USB update.
Owners have confirmed it works after the latest USB update around a month ago, so it's nice that they're being consistent with CCNC.
That said, I think it's a bit annoying to wait for them to facelift or refresh vehicles to get the new software. If you buy an $80000 Genesis now, you don't get wireless carplay. You have to wait for the refreshed model that is being released next year.
I think they should figure out a way to allow the previous software to also be updated with wireless carplay. There's a vocal minority feeling understandably left out. The dongle is fine in theory, but the audio quality versus wired or wireless carplay is pretty bad.
Re the volkswagon, what about these all weather tires? Can they go on electric cars? I’m hearing the tires are expensive? If so why? What’s the difference?
Why on board NAV? Data charges on cell networks- a Canadian problem. And Waze in Canada is not as good as in the U.S.
When are you testing the new Landcruiser and GX and did you see anything related to the redesign of the new 4Runner?
We did ask Toyota but they wouldn't say anything about the 4Runner.
Pretty sure GM is not including apple car play in their new cars. And, my navigation system in my BMW looks better than my iphone navigation. It shows a camera view when it is time to turn.
Congrats to 333k! 🎉🥳
1/3 of a million, awesome! 😊
Thank you so much!
😂 the comment at the end re: the entire channel is turning to coffee/cars. Would totally recommend a separate channel with all coffee/car content!!!!
If you could just swap for refurbished prebalanced batteries, it should reduce cost as they then take the old damaged battery, replace and balance internal modules and sell it to the next customer.
The Versa is a subcompact. The Sentra is a compact like the Civic and Carolla
Hi Guys! Love the show but can you pls share the exact dongle Zack has for Android auto pls. Thanks.
Great content guys