everytime he does these types of videos, im amazed at how little he knows about the characters hes done god modes on-- man was normal attacking with yanfei for 10 seconds straight
I really really love Moga as a content creator but unfortunately that is very much the truth. He will know almost everything during the god mode, but after that, all knowledge will enter into the vacuum of space, never to be seen again.
I think it has something to do with having all the 5 stars. He knows how to use the 4 star supports that boost his 5 stars, but when it comes to dps characters he knows barely anything since he has better 5 star characters.
When it was the yanfei/Sarah/Thoma/kaeya team and moga said no shield, except for tiny one from yanfei Thoma who is literally a shielder: am I a joke to you ?
Yup, at c4 kaeya gets a shield when below 20% hp. Ppl say that he has that because when he got his vision was while fighting with diluc so a shield appear alongside his vision just a theory tho but very cool one
About that Hydrogunner Fatui shield, Electro is the best element to take it down. Hoyoverse kinda make it confusing that Cryo is effective against the Hydro Abyss Mage shield but it's different for the Fatui.
@@valuccc With a bit of research, you'll find out that Fatui shield and Abyss Mage are slightly different. Dendro is super effective against the Hydro Abyss Mage shield, but works normally with the Fatui Hydrogunner. Electro is still better if the enemy is the Fatui Hydrogunner.
"No shields or healers or anything" Thoma, who's a shielder: . . . Yanfei, who gains a shield in higher constellations: . . . Kaeya, who's a self healer and gains a shield in higher cons: . . . Ningguang, who has a partial shield: . . . Yun Jin, who has a partial shield: . . . Xingqiu, a healer: . . . Sara and Amber: Yeah! We don't have any shields or healers!
I recommend a process of elimination for the next randomizer so that you don't constantly keep getting the same units (looking at you Amber), and to also create variety within the teams.
I've been using Thoma all the time in the Abyss. He is my best shielder after Zhongli and I tend to use shields over healers. Plus his pyro infusion is very helpful, he works great with Ayato.
I think the Heizou team looked weak mostly coz it doesnt have a shining star, as both Heizou and Jean are often outshined by other character but both are super solid. I use Jean in most abysses to 36* she maybe doesnt get the job done as fast as Kokomi in most teams, but she does get the job done.
Thoma has a shield. Noelle not only heals with her burst but also can heal the character shielded… I know it’s not a lot but she can heal. And any catalyst can become a healer with Prototype Amber.
R5 Amenoma Kageuchi or R5 Favonius Sword (make sure your Jean crits often) can easily alleviate her ER problem basically making her burst easily replenished while adding up her A4 Passive. The thing that annoys me a bit is her Burst CD (it's a bit long)
It's so good to see keqing do so well with dendro. it helps her teams out very much. And of course nahida as team mate is just crazy good for floor 11. I knew that side was gonna do well.
why the hell does your Thoma have less HP than any non-shielder character in that group 😭 you could have spend so little time dying and retrying that chamber if he was built properly omg!! that's really sad to see edit: oh and also if you added the rule not to bring same character twice that'd be great :) not that I don't love Amber just it is more fun
Im not sure if you know but you can spam Nahida at the last dendro cube and get rid of it without electro at all. I find it actually a lot quicker too :)
The current Abyss blessing gives a decent damage boost for Dendro, so having Tighnari and Nahida on both your teams for Floor 11 probably helped a lot. As a side note: What constellation is your Jean? C4 causes her burst to decrease enemies' Anemo res, so if you have that, she could've been a really nice support for your Heizou :')
if you're doing randomizer for floors with extremely specific needs, you could always just do a limited randomization for one unit (like... if a floor NEEDS a fire unit, you could allow yourself to randomize your eighth slot among just the fire units if you didn't get one that meets the needs before that)
every time Moga gets Amber in a randomizer he gets reminded to do a god mode for her and after a while he doesn't and then Amber appears again in another randomizer ... then...
Moga being surprised at why floor 11 was so easy was so funny to me. I've been using Keqing since I got her as my first 5* (AR 56 now) and I still love her, especially with dendro. And yeah, she's awesome with dendro. Maybe not speedrun worthy but she's still so fun to play and she shreeeeeeds with dendro. Welcome to the wonderful world of Keqing Moga :)
*_How about this challenge_*... "only use charged attacks", or "only use plunge attacks". on characters that don't usually do those. For example Hu tao known to do charged attacks,so now you can only do either plunge or normal attacks. you are free to choose the characters and teams and also whichever way of attacking you want but only with attacks that the character isn't known for. You can use plunge Hu tao with venti for example...so there are ways to make this work. you have to at least clear a entire floor with it otherwise you fail (since you are free to choose your characters and teams there has to be a compensation for that xd)
When you do the challenge again, there is a button that makes the characters messy or random, so when you press on a random number, even if the number is 56, it could be Five Star instead of Amber, it could be Amber's place, the number 2
Complains about Thoma and what is he going to do. Proceeds to then comment that at least Yan Fei has a bit of a shield for survivability. BRUH Thoma over here shielding himself in a corner crying. If Thoma was actually built full HP (I think he might have been full EM?) that team actually should have been pretty decent in terms of survivability. Actually putting Fav weapons on at least 1 if not 2 characters on each team in these challenges would do a LOT for overall damage output and reliability I think. The biggest problem really seems to be the amount of downtime just swapping all over the place using skills trying to generate any energy possible while doing a bit of damage.
What constellation is Jean? Because if she's C4 she's actually fantastic with Heizou and should have been using burst all the time for the huge Anemo resist shred. With her own passive and Heizou generating particles she really shouldn't have much of a problem with energy.
i actually really like using nahida and keqing together, i think their synergy is really good, and both are actually kind of like quickswaps and dont take much time on field.
you can make abyss a rogue-like game simply by starting from floor 1 you only have traveler, and randomize its element, weapon, and artifacts, for every floor you can spin the wheel for character, weapon, and artifacts making every try a unique experience
It's weirdly cathartic watching him struggle on floor 10 after I struggled through it with a bunch of level 70 4-stars and a Yelan 😆 really need to get some good RNG to plow through that last chamber.
For floor 12 challenge: that need bow, you can randomize all bow character and get one guaranteed bow character. so, it won't be impossible. And same can be said for healer too. Love💜💜 your videos Moga. Thanks for sacrificing your sanity for our entertainment
Nahida can mark up to 8 at a time, and it won't skip over no matter how fast you're moving the camera. If you're confident in your ability to spin your camera while keeping it flat, do a 360 and you'll get everyone in the area really quickly
The hydro fatui's shield is actually weak to electro as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), and not cryo (like abyss mages). Makes no sense, but yeah. Your patience is commendable.
Abyss enemies hydro shield are weak to Cryo but Fatui Enemies hydro shield is weak to electro although I have no idea why. And for some reason I knew that without even thinking too much about it
I think that's Layla now on pure dmg absorption. It's good that he can extend it via main dps rotation but that also restricts how you use it and I think people are more comfortable with set and forget shields which does him dirty.
Fun fact for the dendro hypo cube you can use hydro to create a bloom then use anemo to move it towards the lil nubs that need dendro to activate you don't always need anemo I helps tho
This is why whales need to immerse themselves with using 4 stars when doing challenges this. This Moga dude just straight up used Yanfei as the damage absorber/tank when Thoma, A BONAFIDE SHIELDER, is in the team. Bro didn’t even know the rotation to use and just keep spamming skills and NAs. Kinda makes me disappointed cause of his lazy ass
Moga in floor 10: "We have no sheilder or healer!"
Thoma: "Yeah just ignore me:,)"
and he mentions Yanfei when Thoma WAS MADE to be a shielder and nothing else
@@yurimiracle7768 thoma was definitely made to be a burgeon character
@@zeena9613 maybe
Thoma enjoys done dirty today. :/
Thoma disappointment moment
5:32 insert moga completely erasing Thoma's whole use with "no shield" 😭
And C4 Yanfei, AND XINGQIU, if he built his characters and played it right he would not get hit
@@f.b.iagent3971 yh but he's not a good genshin player. Just imagine him being a 2-4 week old player and your expectations should line up
@@oh-noebut still, kinda a shame that after all this time he doesn’t value them 😢
@@f.b.iagent3971 i mean he did mention yanfei,, ot was just funny to me how he remembered yanfeis shield and not thomas since it's his entire kit lol
@@zaedost tbf i also forgot thoma had a shield lmao, ig its just when you dont use a character you dont remember their kit very well
Moga trying to convince us he doesn't like suffering yet:
He's like Markiplier 😭😭
fr fr, the floor 12 video will be even worse
25:00 he's not trying hard enough
@@sup3rn0va242 nah he didn’t even try
Mogachist
everytime he does these types of videos, im amazed at how little he knows about the characters hes done god modes on-- man was normal attacking with yanfei for 10 seconds straight
I really really love Moga as a content creator but unfortunately that is very much the truth. He will know almost everything during the god mode, but after that, all knowledge will enter into the vacuum of space, never to be seen again.
Completely agree. It can be a little frustrating watching him struggle and not really utilizing the characters on his teams properly.
I think it has something to do with having all the 5 stars. He knows how to use the 4 star supports that boost his 5 stars, but when it comes to dps characters he knows barely anything since he has better 5 star characters.
@@protagkun8859 probably because there's like 60 something characters so its hard to remember kits of specific ones
@@aether2001 no... league had almost 3 times the characters and each has more skills...
When it was the yanfei/Sarah/Thoma/kaeya team and moga said no shield, except for tiny one from yanfei
Thoma who is literally a shielder: am I a joke to you ?
@@Stay_away_from_my_swamp_water No? i don't think so, unless it's a shield that comes with constellations.
@@ibarkatgenshinmen he gets one at c4 i think
Yup, at c4 kaeya gets a shield when below 20% hp. Ppl say that he has that because when he got his vision was while fighting with diluc so a shield appear alongside his vision just a theory tho but very cool one
@@ibarkatgenshinmen he has one with c4 when he is at 20% hp
Also yanfeis shield being fucking huge
5:31 "no healing, or **shields** or anything --- I guess Yanfei has a tiny shield" what did Thoma do to you man😭😭
About that Hydrogunner Fatui shield, Electro is the best element to take it down. Hoyoverse kinda make it confusing that Cryo is effective against the Hydro Abyss Mage shield but it's different for the Fatui.
Yeah I was going to say this, too. Cryo is best against the electro gunner. Electro for hydro.
No, dendro is
Either Electro or Dendro.
@@valuccc With a bit of research, you'll find out that Fatui shield and Abyss Mage are slightly different. Dendro is super effective against the Hydro Abyss Mage shield, but works normally with the Fatui Hydrogunner. Electro is still better if the enemy is the Fatui Hydrogunner.
It is pretty hard to do but you can still kill the dendro hypo without a dendro character if you use hydro characters to trigger dendro cores.
That’s actually so big brain… I feel stupid, didn’t even thought it’s possible
@@НадеждаГлебова-м6х you can even use dendro cores then anemo to pull it towards the charge thingies, no dendro required!
I saw xlice pull that off on stream it took about 2 minutes though
"No shields or healers or anything"
Thoma, who's a shielder: . . .
Yanfei, who gains a shield in higher constellations: . . .
Kaeya, who's a self healer and gains a shield in higher cons: . . .
Ningguang, who has a partial shield: . . .
Yun Jin, who has a partial shield: . . .
Xingqiu, a healer: . . .
Sara and Amber: Yeah! We don't have any shields or healers!
Yeah I like how his kaeya can heal 300 hp when he E i suppose that’s way enough to heal him. ur so dumb
"xiao is hurting"
Xingqiu's sword healing forgotten once more. even his damage reduction.
I recommend a process of elimination for the next randomizer so that you don't constantly keep getting the same units (looking at you Amber), and to also create variety within the teams.
I've been using Thoma all the time in the Abyss. He is my best shielder after Zhongli and I tend to use shields over healers. Plus his pyro infusion is very helpful, he works great with Ayato.
Did he just say jean is sort of a healer and forgot thoma is a shielder that is funny 😂
I think the Heizou team looked weak mostly coz it doesnt have a shining star, as both Heizou and Jean are often outshined by other character but both are super solid. I use Jean in most abysses to 36* she maybe doesnt get the job done as fast as Kokomi in most teams, but she does get the job done.
Thoma has a shield. Noelle not only heals with her burst but also can heal the character shielded… I know it’s not a lot but she can heal. And any catalyst can become a healer with Prototype Amber.
Jean has 80 energy cost. Yes, but her 4th ascension passive regenerate by 20%.
Just give her Inazuma Sword and call it a day
R5 Amenoma Kageuchi or R5 Favonius Sword (make sure your Jean crits often) can easily alleviate her ER problem basically making her burst easily replenished while adding up her A4 Passive. The thing that annoys me a bit is her Burst CD (it's a bit long)
It's so good to see keqing do so well with dendro. it helps her teams out very much. And of course nahida as team mate is just crazy good for floor 11. I knew that side was gonna do well.
why the hell does your Thoma have less HP than any non-shielder character in that group 😭 you could have spend so little time dying and retrying that chamber if he was built properly omg!! that's really sad to see
edit: oh and also if you added the rule not to bring same character twice that'd be great :) not that I don't love Amber just it is more fun
Thoma with like one of the strongest sheilds with his stacks, moga just saying that no one in the team good sheild lmao
Im not sure if you know but you can spam Nahida at the last dendro cube and get rid of it without electro at all. I find it actually a lot quicker too :)
Moga: nervous about noelles healing ability
Me: if u use her shield, u don't have to worry so much about healing:')
"Yanfei do something... YANFEI !!". The panic xD
The current Abyss blessing gives a decent damage boost for Dendro, so having Tighnari and Nahida on both your teams for Floor 11 probably helped a lot.
As a side note: What constellation is your Jean? C4 causes her burst to decrease enemies' Anemo res, so if you have that, she could've been a really nice support for your Heizou :')
Moga: three main dps's and a kaeya
Dish: A KAEYA???
Use Prototype Amber to turn one unit into a healer.
Maaaan, I was waiting for it sooo long. I love those random abyss challenge. Excited to watch it
if you're doing randomizer for floors with extremely specific needs, you could always just do a limited randomization for one unit (like... if a floor NEEDS a fire unit, you could allow yourself to randomize your eighth slot among just the fire units if you didn't get one that meets the needs before that)
every time Moga gets Amber in a randomizer he gets reminded to do a god mode for her and after a while he doesn't and then Amber appears again in another randomizer ... then...
In genshin impact we have 4 class
Dps, support, subdps, and kaeya
Kaeya is the combination of those 3 tho if well-invested
5:32
Moga: "no shields or anything..."
Thoma: Am I joke to you :'(
Cool
5:33 Thoma: I guess I don’t exist
12:45 rip
friendly reminder that for the floor 9 team, xingqiu e actually heals if there's still blades around your character when the cooldown runs out :)
Moga being surprised at why floor 11 was so easy was so funny to me. I've been using Keqing since I got her as my first 5* (AR 56 now) and I still love her, especially with dendro. And yeah, she's awesome with dendro. Maybe not speedrun worthy but she's still so fun to play and she shreeeeeeds with dendro. Welcome to the wonderful world of Keqing Moga :)
Moga was a keqing main until hutao came along. 😢
moga pulled keqing on his first 10 pull istg
amber being a yandere waiting for her godmode is so funny
😂😂
01:29
We have 3 main dpses and a Kaeya...
Kaeya mains be like : Are we a joke to you?
The Thoma disrespect in this video was quite painful to watch
thoma can do a really good burgeon team!! i run him with nahida, ayato, and kokomi and you should try it out!! its really fun :)
"we have literally no shielder or healer" Thoma in the back crying
you using cyno and tighnari without their spread and aggravate reactions is killing me...
and now you cannot convince me that moga isn't a masochist
Amber be torturing Moga for haven't made her god mode video.
Just gonna say that the hydro shield from the Fatui is weak against electro and dendro, not cryo
*_How about this challenge_*... "only use charged attacks", or "only use plunge attacks". on characters that don't usually do those. For example Hu tao known to do charged attacks,so now you can only do either plunge or normal attacks. you are free to choose the characters and teams and also whichever way of attacking you want but only with attacks that the character isn't known for. You can use plunge Hu tao with venti for example...so there are ways to make this work. you have to at least clear a entire floor with it otherwise you fail (since you are free to choose your characters and teams there has to be a compensation for that xd)
if you had just built thoma as a shielder...
When you do the challenge again, there is a button that makes the characters messy or random, so when you press on a random number, even if the number is 56, it could be Five Star instead of Amber, it could be Amber's place, the number 2
The best series is back yay
I’m crying why was Amber doing so little😭
Poor Amber got done so dirty by the game
6:52
crying in Thoma simp: c6 Thoma increases normal attack dmg by 15%, sniff sob
Complains about Thoma and what is he going to do. Proceeds to then comment that at least Yan Fei has a bit of a shield for survivability. BRUH Thoma over here shielding himself in a corner crying.
If Thoma was actually built full HP (I think he might have been full EM?) that team actually should have been pretty decent in terms of survivability.
Actually putting Fav weapons on at least 1 if not 2 characters on each team in these challenges would do a LOT for overall damage output and reliability I think. The biggest problem really seems to be the amount of downtime just swapping all over the place using skills trying to generate any energy possible while doing a bit of damage.
as a thoma main it literally HURTS so bad to see thoma just being ignored. :/
What constellation is Jean? Because if she's C4 she's actually fantastic with Heizou and should have been using burst all the time for the huge Anemo resist shred. With her own passive and Heizou generating particles she really shouldn't have much of a problem with energy.
Not moga using xingqiu on the half with the hydro maiden and having a hard time to deal with the pyro fatui on the other half 😂
i actually really like using nahida and keqing together, i think their synergy is really good, and both are actually kind of like quickswaps and dont take much time on field.
the thoma slander is strong within this one.
The reason Heizou team was so good was probably because Jean shred anemo res, I think
Man, it's really clear how much he doesn't like Thoma since he completely forgot about the shield 😂
Wow you really get Xiao in every random challenge
"no shields ok yanfei shield"
Thoma:
the hydro fatui's shield is weaker to electro. idk why they made it different from the abyss mages but they did lol
you can make abyss a rogue-like game simply by starting from floor 1 you only have traveler, and randomize its element, weapon, and artifacts, for every floor you can spin the wheel for character, weapon, and artifacts making every try a unique experience
5:32 "again no healing or shielding i guess yanfei has a tiny shield" moga completely forgets kaeya can heal and shield and thoma can shield too LOL
5:32 no way you ignored Thoma's shield 😭
Thoma : The day I lost my identity
Amber be like: I was your beginning, now I’m your end.
"no shields or anything"
Thoma: Yeah no shit
It's weirdly cathartic watching him struggle on floor 10 after I struggled through it with a bunch of level 70 4-stars and a Yelan 😆 really need to get some good RNG to plow through that last chamber.
For floor 12 challenge: that need bow, you can randomize all bow character and get one guaranteed bow character. so, it won't be impossible. And same can be said for healer too. Love💜💜 your videos Moga. Thanks for sacrificing your sanity for our entertainment
Thoma apply a shield bro 💀
4:22 The bunny😂😂
Just admit you don't like Thoma bc hating him is literally the only reason that anyone would forget that he provides a shield as part of his base kit.
12 is actually harder now because the last moon phase buff contrubuted a lot of dmg.
Not this dude suffering with C6 4 stars and 5 star weapons
Nahida can mark up to 8 at a time, and it won't skip over no matter how fast you're moving the camera. If you're confident in your ability to spin your camera while keeping it flat, do a 360 and you'll get everyone in the area really quickly
The hydro fatui's shield is actually weak to electro as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), and not cryo (like abyss mages). Makes no sense, but yeah. Your patience is commendable.
Abyss enemies hydro shield are weak to Cryo but Fatui Enemies hydro shield is weak to electro although I have no idea why. And for some reason I knew that without even thinking too much about it
its amazing how much patience you have, my pc woulda been in bits by the first 10 minutes is done 🤣
Moga's new name from now on will be MOGACHIST
this was such a fun and (painful) video i loved it sm
Moga's found a great new POV for the intro :')
thoma is literally the second best sheilder 😭😭😭
I think that's Layla now on pure dmg absorption. It's good that he can extend it via main dps rotation but that also restricts how you use it and I think people are more comfortable with set and forget shields which does him dirty.
After clearing floor 10, you made a sound i did not know was humanly possible
I like how Moga use yanfi and ning as the main dps thin stuck in the enemy’s balls
This series is actually fun
15:57-16:08 that's my favourite part😂😂
YANFEI
YANFEI DO SOMETHING!!
@@britthau 😭😭
Huh, Noelle can heal with just her shield, it just takes longer. I'm glad your floor 11 run went so smooth. Keqing is a lot stronger with Nahida.
Wanna convince Moga that Jean is better than you would expect
Fun fact for the dendro hypo cube you can use hydro to create a bloom then use anemo to move it towards the lil nubs that need dendro to activate you don't always need anemo I helps tho
Floor 11 feels easy because of the leyline disorder - extra 200 EM... and both your teams have a Dendro/ Electro/ Anemo carry (all_love_EM)
fun fact! you can beat the dendro cube without dendro, but it will take a long time for the green line to be full so you need to kill it 1-2 times :)
12:33 SARA E GETS OUT OF MIRROR MAIDEN BS
This is why whales need to immerse themselves with using 4 stars when doing challenges this. This Moga dude just straight up used Yanfei as the damage absorber/tank when Thoma, A BONAFIDE SHIELDER, is in the team. Bro didn’t even know the rotation to use and just keep spamming skills and NAs. Kinda makes me disappointed cause of his lazy ass
I just completed Floor 11 with all stars and then walked away
you actually need electro to get rid of the hydro fatui dude's shield!
Thanks for the video Moga!!
was I the only one getting constantly triggered by him bursting with Yanfei and switching out? 😭😭😭
I thought the Fatui Hydro Gunner's Shield is supposed to be weak to Electro, not Cryo.
The M in Moga stands for Masochist
the two electro mages and the mirror maiden SUCKED. i kept getting mowed down by the little electro puddles too loll
Hopefully you do get yoimiya for the 2nd abyss half, but if not, a great alternative is a hyperbloom team, so its honestly gonna be a 50/50 kek
Moga is working his way towards markiplier levels of masochism
Bro moga does so much for our happiness