Best budget sports-touring motorcycle for ONLY 3 grand?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @bottletree33
    @bottletree33 8 месяцев назад +2

    The note of that exhaust when you’re changing down gears is so sweet.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Couldn't agree more!

  • @4alenas4
    @4alenas4 8 месяцев назад +13

    I've had my vfr for 5 years now. My advice to you: get an ECU from an unrestricted bike. Mine was also the german version with 98bhp and a cat, 1998. After four years of riding, I got an unrestricted ECU. World of a difference! Smoother, more powerful, and uses less fuel for some reason. Also - it's plug and play. Part number I got was 38770-MBG-003 but many others will do as well

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +3

      Definitely on my to do list! Thanks for the tip!

    • @cavscout62
      @cavscout62 8 месяцев назад +1

      It uses less fuel because it’s far closer to Maximum Combustion Efficiency now that it breathes properly.

  • @flintstoneengineering
    @flintstoneengineering 8 месяцев назад +5

    The off throttle whir into corners brought me back. A "should have never sold it" bike.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      So glad I finally bought one

  • @michaelhart5886
    @michaelhart5886 8 месяцев назад +2

    Im a massive vfr fan having owned a 1997 vfr750, 4 5th gen vfr800s and currently a 2008 vfr800. Build quality you cant find nowadays. The regulator is an easy upgrade/fix. Fit some decent suspension and go one tooth down on the front sprocket for extra fun.
    I've ridden 1000kms in a day on mine here in Australia.

    • @jerryeinstandig7996
      @jerryeinstandig7996 8 месяцев назад +1

      so smooth. other bikes feel like a collection of part working together while a '97 VFR feels like one single piece, and i love mine

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I'm more in love with mine every day. Another video update soon!

    • @markines5171
      @markines5171 4 месяца назад

      Hi Mate, I'm looking at 1998/1999 model - similar bike in this video. One have 110,000 KMs the other 180,000 KMs. I feel the KMs are too high, is it something to be concerned about? I want to buy it but am scared to inherit a bike that will die on me due to high KMs. Pls advice, thank you 🙏 in advance 🙏

  • @ametistihiomo
    @ametistihiomo 8 месяцев назад

    I've had my '05 VFR for 12 years now. Back then I also considered the Futura as the other option, but am very happy I chose this. We've done 80 thousand kms together through a lot of northern europe. So many priceless, wonderful moments and stories.

  • @dwk2618
    @dwk2618 6 месяцев назад +1

    Поздравляю с покупкой, вы купили один из лучших мотоциклов . Я спустя 10 лет, снова взял себе vfr800 2000 года выпуска, и кайфую. Буду следить за вашим каналом, вы говорите разумные вещи , а не только эмоции. У нас похожие взгляды на вещи и мотоциклы, так что подписка на ваш канал однозначно.

  • @1998TDM
    @1998TDM 8 месяцев назад +4

    Just stumbled across your channel, hit subscribe almost immediately. That is a thinking mans bike, great score. Myself and my mates ride bikes that fly under the radar never having been the most exciting or most desirable but cover the ground effortlessly.
    Linked brakes on the road IMHO are excellent when you get your head around them.
    All the best from NZ, land of never ending corners.

  • @HolgerB-d5x
    @HolgerB-d5x 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Dale, it's nice to see that you enjoy my last motorcycle so much. I hope you have much fun with it. P.S.: The Honda is from the year 2000. 😉 Greetings from Sauerland.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Hi Holger, thanks for selling me the bike! I'm gonna do my best to keep it in as great condition as you did! I'm so happy with it. After we talked, I checked out VFR800X prices, and I did find some nice ones below €7,000. There's a 19,000km bike in Baden-Württemberg, 2016 model, with everything. I bet you could get it for €6750 :)
      Now, let me be a nerd... 'our' VFR is 2000 first registration, and it has the mirrors from a 2000 bike. But it's a '99 build year because: a) it has the 50th Anniversary paint, b) it still has a choke lever, and c) it doesn't have HISS (transponder security system).

    • @HolgerB-d5x
      @HolgerB-d5x 8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the tip about the VFR800X. I'll have a look at that. And you're probably right about the year of manufacture. You are the real enthusiast here. 😊

    • @twoeyedbob
      @twoeyedbob 8 месяцев назад

      @@HolgerB-d5xbought the 800x after my 800fi
      Good bike,better for older legs and joints 👍sh*t screen desperately needs upgraded
      But miss the fi so so much 😢

  • @manuel90gti
    @manuel90gti 3 месяца назад

    The VFR is just great! I bought a gs1150 for about €3,000 as the first bike, and I'm in love with it ☺️ ciao from Italy! ☺️

  • @Lord_Winchester
    @Lord_Winchester 8 месяцев назад +7

    Great Video Mate.
    One Point of criticism:
    The Background music is too loud.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      It was about -24db compared to the voice, so I guess I just gotta remove it in future lol

    • @jhaifley
      @jhaifley 5 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto I watch motorcycle videos to listen to the analysis, and to listen to the engines. Music adds zero. Less than zero.

  • @ianl4518
    @ianl4518 8 месяцев назад +1

    Good buy! I have a '98 VFR inb black with very low mileage and all original save for a Nitron shock and the Mosfet regulator upgrade. It's a great bike and definitely gets the baby treatment! 😁

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Got my eyes open for the reg/rec upgrade too!

  • @Jeff-fc7gw
    @Jeff-fc7gw 8 месяцев назад +2

    When I saw the thumbnail the first bike that I thought of was a VFR750. Good choice

  • @miclchaos
    @miclchaos 8 месяцев назад

    I have an 04 Red one, I love it when the VTEC kicks in.
    Like the silver/red colour scheme.
    I run a standard exhaust because I annualy go from the UK to Luxembourg where a non-standard exhaust will earn you a 180euro fine if you get stopped.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, gotta keep those papers up to date! Luckily my BOS is 'eingetragen' now

  • @mm1dea
    @mm1dea 8 месяцев назад

    Owned 97 vfr750 for a couple of years and had a blast, wish i had got a 800 as the fuel injection and just various upgrades made such a difference. Great looking bike hope you have loads of fun and many happy years with it.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Right on! Thank!

    • @timmie426
      @timmie426 8 месяцев назад

      750 is better looking though!

  • @danweyant4909
    @danweyant4909 8 месяцев назад

    Owned an April4 RST1000 Futura for 4 years. You made the right choice. It WAS fast & comfortable but had issues.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      yeah, it was a heart choice, and I listened to my head (for once!)

  • @BatFastard01
    @BatFastard01 7 месяцев назад

    Had a vfr800 years ago. Got used for commuting. Loved the engine characteristics, bullet proof feel about it and had a soft spot for it but could never put my finger on it. Thought I would dislike the linked brakes but always got on with them well. The system felt very good for road riding. 👍

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  7 месяцев назад +1

      For the road, I've got no problem at all with the CBS at anything like normal speeds. Just deep trail braking that I found disconcerting. It's definitely aged well though - lots of bikes offer more tech, but not so many get all the same things right like this

    • @BatFastard01
      @BatFastard01 7 месяцев назад

      BTW, remember you from the PB magazine days. Always enjoyed your write ups. 👍🏻 Part of the reason I subbed your channel when I saw it.

  • @stevenlynskey7879
    @stevenlynskey7879 8 месяцев назад +2

    A Triumph Sprint ST 1050 is considered by many as the best sports tourer,and there are plenty on the used bikes market for not alot of cash 👍

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      I think you're the 4th person to say this, but as you can see on my reply, I'm not a huge fan of that bike, and they're more expensive here in Germany than in the UK.

    • @mattmutane5502
      @mattmutane5502 8 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto I personally REALLY didn't like the Sprint to ride, and it's reliability sucked (the one my mate had at least...). Funnily enough, his Sprint replaced his '05 VFR800 which he never had ANY issues with (other than the usual reg/rec/altenator issues most Honda's from that period suffered from). West Country Windings near me (in Essex) do some quality replacement aftermarket upgraded parts which my mate on his Blackbird who has availed himself of, with no regrets (after having replaced a fried Honda reg/rec with a slot-in AM Mosfet replacement) which then also fried. WCW say you're better off bypassing the "earth block" in the loom with direct connections between the altenator/battery/reg-rec for better longevity and reliability (that's what we did for my mate's Blackbird). HTH! :)

  • @hannesgottinger9284
    @hannesgottinger9284 8 месяцев назад

    Did my bike license September last year, went for a Gen 1 650 V-Strom, and I am very happy with it. But I feel like a sports (tourer) would accompany it nicely. Nearly went for a VFR 800 instead of the Strom, but no service history on the V-Tec (and everything else) sketched me out. I think your generation is the perfect choice, congrats.
    Sounds lovely mate! One day I may buy one.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comment!

  • @woodyamsterdam
    @woodyamsterdam 2 месяца назад

    I have picked up the same bike a week and a half ago, albeit in standard (red) livery but also with a Bos exhaust for about the same amount that you have paid for it. It was owned by a collector for years and they sold it to me with new Michelin tires, a new battery and a full service. It's in absolute mint condition and runs like new. Coming from an old GSX 600f, the power and performance still blows me away. And did I mention the sound?

  • @2bikemikesguitartopics145
    @2bikemikesguitartopics145 4 месяца назад

    I have a 99 that I got with 22,000 km on it in 2001. It now has 99,000 km on it and it still goes like it's brand new

  • @alwynmcmath
    @alwynmcmath 8 месяцев назад +1

    I really want to hear what suspension upgrades you do. I love my yellow 5th gen but it’s a bit saggy now. I’m thinking I’ll upgrade the shock and forks this year.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I'm looking at a cartridge kit, shock with remote preload adjuster, and uprated springs both ends. Not until Summer tho

  • @henrymarkstewart1067
    @henrymarkstewart1067 8 месяцев назад

    In 2017 I bought a 2000 Fi blue 7,600 mile immaculate factory standard 1 owner 5th gen then did 15,000 (very) fast road miles over the next 3yrs. It was faultless and always a joy to ride. My ‘new’ 929 FireBlade just doesn’t have the same character and I regularly think about ‘downgrading’ back to the older less powerful slower less sporty VFR

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      The 929 never excited me like the old 900 or the later 954, I have to admit

  • @nickbaker5033
    @nickbaker5033 8 месяцев назад

    This model was chain driven overhead cam. I noticed significantly better fuel consumption with high octane rated fuel. Just about 100 rear wheel brake horse power on a dyno. Issues, they had a habit of doing the voltage regulator. Twice in 3 years, the dealer reckoned it was in the wrong position and therefore overheated. We are talking about Australia and maybe not an issue in Europe. 1900 Kms Melbourne to Brisbane in one hit 22 hours. Always felt for touring it would have been better if the riding position was a bit more upright. Bought a VT1000SP1 after this bike. Always thought the VFR accelerated quicker. An excellent bike.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I'm pretty sure the the facelift RC46, with VTEC and underseat exhausts was the chain-driven version... Interestingly, the SP1 you mentioned also featured gear-driven cams!

    • @nickbaker5033
      @nickbaker5033 6 месяцев назад

      @@Africatwinrider1 I was wrong the pre VTEC was gear driven cams apparently. Well I did 40,000Kms in one year on the VTR1000SP1 and always thought the performance was uninspiring, flat. Talking about feel rather than performance figures. A friend of mine felt the same way, the VTR a very different bike to the track version.

  • @markanstey2654
    @markanstey2654 8 месяцев назад

    Sounds nice. I had a Futura for a bit and it was a fantastic bike with a beautiful motor and stunning looks.. such an underrated bike.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I do think I missed out on that copper/orange RST

  • @vmionescu
    @vmionescu 8 месяцев назад

    RC46 was my first choice and secondly Futura 😅. After first ride I fell in love with the engine, handling, and ergonomics. When you'll come to Transylvania I might have few good road suggestions to check out.

  • @theroadblog2858
    @theroadblog2858 8 месяцев назад +1

    I look forward to get back to Eiffel in the easter weekend. The area is much more than the Nürburgring.
    Oh, And now you made me look at VFR's in the classifieds.
    I was reminded of "Courier Stan" Who rode 852,000 miles on his 1990 VFR750 FL (New engine at 440.000 miles after at headgasket failure)

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, that's a great story. The stats were great. He went on to blackbirds too

  • @AsantePE
    @AsantePE 7 месяцев назад

    I am going to look for a vfr this week, the past years I have owned a firestorm a xl600r and a tdm 850 3vd, but I really really missed the firestorm who got stolen. The drama of the bike the sound and the vfr seems to fill the bill with even a better sound track and ergonomics. I can't wait to go on northsleife with a bike for the first time or explore europe. Getting gitty while writing this, to have a bike int he garage again that just works. No fiddeling with carbs because with the modern fuels its just a P I A.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  7 месяцев назад

      I think you'll like it!

  • @mikescott9213
    @mikescott9213 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have a 2014 kawasaki concours 14 with over 120k miles. Runs great

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Very cool bike that never really made it over here.

  • @si1208
    @si1208 8 месяцев назад

    I had a 2000 RC46 for a bit. I bought it because I needed a daily as a reliable stablemate for my Ducati 853 SP. It was a good, capable all-rounder, though outstanding only in reliability. After blowing up the Ducati for the second time (while lapping the 'Ring, as it happens), I bought a 954 Fireblade, so the VFR was redundant and had to go.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for sharing! I do like an SC54 :)

  • @bobz1736
    @bobz1736 6 месяцев назад

    Great choice... i just love the V4 and gear driven cams sounds !

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  5 месяцев назад

      Me too!

  • @sussexbikerpillion
    @sussexbikerpillion 8 месяцев назад

    She was a quite a heavy beast but super stable on the move. Liked the reassurance of the linked brakes. Ducati character with Honda build quality. Mine had 89k when I drowned it in flood water 😢 get a good one you will be happy !

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      CBS helps massively on the road, and over long distances. It was a bit odd on the racetrack tho!

  • @daimonmt
    @daimonmt 8 месяцев назад

    You got a jem there, i have toured all the way to Italy, Stelvio pass. Engine is a peach, had power commander and after it was set up properly , it had 117bhp. I do miss it. Am sure youll have many happy miles ahead.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      wow! 117hp is a bet step up from my 98hp German model. I already have a UK ECU on its way to me, next is the de-cat and finally some ECU-prodding with a PC3

  • @rideitalia
    @rideitalia 8 месяцев назад

    Agree 100% - crazy vfm, crazy it’s 24 years old! Enjoy! 💪👍

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      In my head it's a 2 year old, nearly-new, bike. Wait til you see the next update!

  • @mintz97
    @mintz97 6 месяцев назад

    thanks for this review video, please keep us updated on the mods

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa 8 месяцев назад

    I still keep my 1999 (5th GEN) and do all services myself. The only problem it ever gave me was the rectifier. I had to change it shortly after purchasing it (famous problem). It's been running strong since then. Great handling, brakes and enough power to get anyone in trouble. As I am not getting any younger, I just wish it could be lighter and a bit lower. Note: A handlebar riser can improve comfort.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for sharing! I'll probably upgrade the reg/rec preemptively

    • @markines5171
      @markines5171 4 месяца назад +1

      Hi, how many KMs do you have on yours pls. I'm looking into purchasing similar model 98 or 99, however KMs are very high @110,000 and 180,000. I'm worried that if I buy, I will inherit a dying motorcycle due to high KMs. Kindly advice please, thank you 🙏

    • @corujariousa
      @corujariousa 4 месяца назад

      @@markines5171 I live in the US so motorcycle is more of an adult toy here for most. I bought mine with less than 6K miles in 2000 and now it has a little over 20K miles. I sometimes think about buying a Ducati Diavel or the new BMW R1300GS but I can't yet cope with the idea of letting the VFR800 go. The bike is great. The mileage you mentioned presents a risk of course but these bikes are usually in a niche so if you are buying from someone directly you may be able to get a reliable and well maintained bike, despite the high usage. If you really want one, I would advise you to connect with sellers (owners directly) and check them out. I assume you know the basics of mechanics so you should be able to identify any serious issues right away. For example, I keep my cars for many years. Despite the high mileage, they are is great shape (mechanic and appearance). Dealerships often make me offers on them because they know they are easy sell and can lead to good profit. Good luck!

  • @thomaskaminski5611
    @thomaskaminski5611 8 месяцев назад

    My choice was a 1997 Suzuki RF900R. Yoshi pipe, hi-flo air filter, larger jets. Around 140Bhp. Will do 300 with different sprocket and handels very well for its age.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      A real sleeper! And that '90s styling is so cool

  • @wozzab_66
    @wozzab_66 8 месяцев назад

    I’ve got the last RC36 FV with 72k miles. Have had it 20 yrs. Bullet proof! Rectifier issue addressed. Never had issues with carbs either. Put the 8 spoke wheel on the rear for better ascetics and larger rear tyre. Will never sell. I’ve packed up first with back and wrists so also have a VFR 1200X, also with 70k miles. HONDA 👊

    • @robbiepemberton
      @robbiepemberton 8 месяцев назад +1

      My mate has the RC36 too, he's had it for years and years and done silly mileage all over Europe on it. He aslo sorted the rectifier. He had it in the garage all winter and a few weeks ago it started up no problems bar chugging a bit to clear the carbs. He's a raspberry ripple too so as he got older he put a bar riser on it which helps.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Love it!

  • @paul.harvey
    @paul.harvey 8 месяцев назад

    Iconic bike. Great condition. Amazing value at 3k. Wish you well to ride it. 🏁

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks Paul!

  • @richardbehrle1496
    @richardbehrle1496 8 месяцев назад

    I’m in the states, those color schemes never came to us but I went to the TT in ‘98 and I thought they were the coolest looking Hondas! I always thought the later VFRs were neat. I still have a sales catalogue on that very bike.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Very cool! Thanks for sharing.

  • @RikkyTang
    @RikkyTang 8 месяцев назад +1

    Yes, you did the right thing 😁This video got me looking at old VFR's for sale and I've seen a 1989 FK model with less than 20,000 miles (allegedly)! I had an FG back in the day and loved it. And I had a 1999 800 too but it didn't steer straight so I soon got rid of that! So, buying a 30+ year old carbed bike, and with the original exhausts too? Doesn't sound like a smart idea... but I'll give the guy a call in the morning just to see if it's still for sale 😂

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      hahah I keep asking what happened next, Rikky, but the comment disappears! Did you buy it?

    • @RikkyTang
      @RikkyTang 8 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto Indeed I did sir, you owe me £1075 😂😂 But it's a real survivor, just over 17,000 miles and still on the original exhausts... even the collector hasn't rusted through!! Needs a little TLC but it's in really good nick for it's age and I think I might have just robbed somebody 😁

    • @RikkyTang
      @RikkyTang 8 месяцев назад

      You get a mention in my VFR reveal video, because this is all your fault! ruclips.net/video/RCzJeUfS8lE/видео.htmlsi=JQxbn5WMcWsr3_8y&t=71

  • @Szlejer
    @Szlejer 8 месяцев назад

    Loved my VFR800 and the glorious V4 growl, but I had more electric problems (ground, burnt stators, not starting when wet) with that bike than all my other bikes combined, including KTM...

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Definitely the Achilles heal on this bike. And one part leads to fail of another. I definitely want to address that soon

  • @Kelly-oq9nh
    @Kelly-oq9nh 8 месяцев назад

    Really good video. Completely enjoyed the ride with you. Thanks from Snohomish Wa. USA

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jhstony
    @jhstony 8 месяцев назад +2

    Very nice bike, did you consider a Triumph Sprint ST 1050 ? Single sided swing arm, fuel injection,full luggage, 130bhp, same money as your bike

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Lots of similar comments, but they're over 4 grand here, I've had one before, and every time I meet one it's broken down LOL

  • @nickrider5220
    @nickrider5220 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hard to disagree with your purchase ! Amongst my little collection I have a 1989 vfr750, the last of the dual sided swingarm rc24 type (fk). I bought it mainly because of the excellent Performance Bikes test of the bike and it stuck in my memory, so I bought one 13 years ago. The 800 is a better all round bike..but I remembered that test in PB 🙂

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Good old PB. So many happy memories!

  • @weaselman24
    @weaselman24 8 месяцев назад

    80k on mine. Still going strong on an 01 model. Gear driven cams for life!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Gotta love that singing whine

  • @franktaylor7617
    @franktaylor7617 8 месяцев назад

    😎👍🇺🇲
    Bought one for $1600 and that included all of his gear. He wanted out completely.
    Seller was like 5'2 and could only get one foot down. He had several tip overs. I repaired all the minor damage pretty easily.
    It didn't suit me. Felt very top heavy. I didn't care for the linked braking.
    Sadly the bike just didn't do anything for me. Everything about it was just OK. Nothing stood out to make me really enjoy it.
    Like you said, for me, "the 10 minute rides, it was rubbish".
    I have a decent line up of early bikes. Each one has it's highlights.
    The Honda just didn't tick any of my boxes.
    Ended up selling it for almost twice what I paid and sold most of the gear/accessories.
    I have a pristine 93 ZX 11 D for sport touring.
    Soon I'll reduce to a 90 GSX-R 1100 and the KTM 690 SMC-R.
    All the others are just collecting dust.
    Cheers mate from the PNW Seattle WA area.✌️

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the comment! I've had some ZZRs, great bikes!

  • @nockianlifter661
    @nockianlifter661 8 месяцев назад

    ST4s was great, I bought a cheap one. Front suspension was awful and needed emulators and different springs. Eventually sold it due to its habit of overheating and the wiring which rotted at the main connector between front and rear. I still miss it despite its faults. Unbelievably quick - I saw 165 somethings on the clock and had to slow down due to a weave caused by the panniers. It’s everything that VFR800 claimed to be.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      hahaha luggage will do that! great stuff

  • @jonnyvt6602
    @jonnyvt6602 8 месяцев назад

    I love the linked brake system, mines a 1999 and done 18k. The brake levers just look like that!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks, that's great to know! I'll stop stressing!

  • @mech770
    @mech770 8 месяцев назад

    That route you took looks decent! Think I’ll have a crack at that myself

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Loads of great roads around here, you can't go wrong.

  • @robbiepemberton
    @robbiepemberton 8 месяцев назад

    The MCN review of this used to say "the best version of the best bike ever created". It has since been edited (but that was about 10 years or more ago that I read that). I'm torn between getting the vtec or this. I'll probably ride a lot at night and carry a lot of kit so was thinking the VTEC would be better for lighting and luggage but I honestly love the idea of this bike.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      It's certainly a great bike by any measure. The VTEC I didn't like just on fuel economy and wobbly VTEC cutting in. Can't comment if the lights are better - can confirm that these lights are EPIC and way better than a lot of modern LED setups to be honest, which is amazing!

  • @danielnorth1319
    @danielnorth1319 8 месяцев назад

    Get a SH847 R/R then you don't need to worry about the electric side of things again.
    Wire straight to the battery.
    Love my 98.

  • @stevewallace853
    @stevewallace853 8 месяцев назад

    I had a VFR750FM and absolutely loved it, rode the wheels off it, pegs down everywhere, flat out, wide open throttle and such confidence in it and inevitably I crashed it.
    Got a VFR800Fi thinking it would be everything the 750 was but more...I hated it, got rid after 3 months, don't have a single photo of it. Other than a CBR600 I owned for 3 days it was the worst bike I've ever owned.

    • @twoeyedbob
      @twoeyedbob 8 месяцев назад +1

      Couldn’t disagree more
      Had a 97 750 with 97k miles on it
      Then Bought a 2001 800fi
      750 was prettier.800 was better in every way
      Absolutely adored both of them
      Will always be the best 2 bikes I’ve ever had
      By all accounts the earlier 750 was meant to be livelier and not as heavy but never had the chance to ride one

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      That's really interesting to hear! Certainly doesn't align with my own experiences so far, but thanks for sharing!

  • @ScORTED
    @ScORTED 8 месяцев назад

    The only thing that put me off [the futura] was Ali never letting me hear the end of it every time it broke down.

  • @keithwolff1186
    @keithwolff1186 8 месяцев назад

    Such a beautiful bike. Good find, congrats

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      We agree! :)

  • @scottdemoor49
    @scottdemoor49 8 месяцев назад

    You should try the Yamaha Super Tennere 1200. I got mine with 25000 miles now got 75000 miles it's my daily driver. On road, off road. Single track no problem.
    My only dislike is cost of tires. It's heavy, but never gives up!! I'm shooting to cross the USA now that I am retired. Woohoo!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Crossing the USA is one of my dream rides! I love the idea of the 1200 Super, but I did just step off my 1250 GS for a 660 Aprilia for the ADV side of my garage! :)

  • @edxr250r
    @edxr250r 7 месяцев назад

    Great content, keep it coming👌

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks! 👍👍

  • @oldhairpin
    @oldhairpin 8 месяцев назад

    Brilliant bike. I miss mine. All it needs is suspension. Michelin Pilot Powers are all you need as modern Gucci tyres are wasted on it

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Definitely in the plan for this summer!

  • @In-the-shed
    @In-the-shed 8 месяцев назад

    Great choice - awesome but very underrated bikes, I love mine and plan never to part with it. Upgrade the suspension & upgrade the regulator & wiring and she’ll be good 👌🏻

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Reg/rec is on the list. Researching suspension options now

    • @In-the-shed
      @In-the-shed 7 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto I have a Nitron shock which is a popular choice in the uk. Forks I only went as far as springs, lighter weight oil and some fiddling with the air gap - good improvement just with that.

  • @trailingarm63
    @trailingarm63 8 месяцев назад

    Nice engineering but have you checked the dealers prices for valve clearance checks? Extraordinary!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      It's pretty rough on most bikes nowadays, as the per hour charge is outpacing inflation (IMO). My parallel twin Aprilia, they want over €1000 for 8 valves. Even my GS was only €700. Luckily this had it done only 5,000kms ago, AND it's a frickin' VFR. I'd be very unlucky to be getting my shim-calculator out anytime before 80,000kms :)

  • @alanjoneslegendary
    @alanjoneslegendary 8 месяцев назад

    I was in the Eiffel last Sunday really awesome I’m spring and autumn with less bikers than summer . not sure if I was on this road though I came in from Belgium side towards Monschau . Did you consider a Triumph sprint 1050 can pick them up pretty cheap a lovely engine

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      See my other replies to this topic, but nope. Don't like them, and they're expensive here too

  • @marklander9177
    @marklander9177 8 месяцев назад

    I put handle bars from a Kawasaki ZG1000 on my ZZR1200 and could not be more happy.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Good trick!

  • @volt8684
    @volt8684 8 месяцев назад

    There is no better engine or reliable than these. I sold mine at 21 yrs old a 99 plate immaculate. I was too skeletally challenged to ride it anymore. Lowered footpegs, handle bar risers but age beat me. I went to south france in 2001 and no speed cameras or motorway penalties. I remember blasting along at 100mph that gear driven cam engine singing effortlessly. As other have said wish hadn’t sold. And as you say these Hondas were built like something else. The swing arm on mine was a piece of art. Compared to my 22 plate nc750 utter cheapness

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the comment! '90s Hondas really were something else. It's odd that I didn't really appreciate how far we've come, and also how far standards have dropped. Cheap bikes today are well specc'd but they do still have weird traits and nasty components like a 90s commuter bike did

  • @mattmutane5502
    @mattmutane5502 8 месяцев назад

    Great video , Dale, that bike sounds ORGASMIC!! :D :D (I don't remember them sounding anywhere near as good as that, but I guess the can helps! :) ). Does the loop have a better name than "the Daun road"? (Michelbachschleife perhaps? ;) :D ). My usual route to/from Calais/Nurburg usually takes me via Gerolstein - I will have to divert and do "a lap" this summer!! :D Thx :)

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Salm to Birresborn is that awesome road, and you can make a triangle out of it, cutting back through the forest. AND it's just south out of Gerolstein, so you can use it on the way to the 'Ring if you go via Daun :)

    • @mattmutane5502
      @mattmutane5502 8 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto Yep - the "Michelbachschleife" is already a "lap"/route in my SatNav, ready for summer... ;) :D I DO like the Gerolstein - Kelberg road too with those fast sweepies, so would probably do Dasburg - Gerolstein - Michelbachschleife - Gerolstein - Kelberg - Nurburg... :D :D Man I miss the Eifel! :)

  • @meetmobility
    @meetmobility 7 месяцев назад

    L29, Salm. Thx for the tip. I'll check it out. 19:12

  • @maartensabbe3844
    @maartensabbe3844 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent choice, I call mine the Panigaldi ;)

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks!

  • @TomNicklasSand
    @TomNicklasSand 8 месяцев назад

    I have the same gripe with the front brake lever and I'm looking for a master cylinder with an external brake reservoir. Only issue is its 1/2" cylinder and not a lot of bikes have that, but I wonder if some of the cbr's did...

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I just put a CBR1000RR front brake cylinder on my 600RR, it was a lovely upgrade. I might look at de-linking these brakes after blueing the rear disc in one lap of the Nordschleife....

    • @TomNicklasSand
      @TomNicklasSand 7 месяцев назад

      I found a Nissin 1/2" brake master on webike that has the detached style reservoir. So that's gonna take care of the ergonomics. I dont think it's wort delinking the brakes for me since there arent any track action here sadly

  • @Favk21
    @Favk21 8 месяцев назад

    Ooh, what a nice road to ride!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      GREAT roads around here!

  • @dcads2290
    @dcads2290 3 месяца назад

    Hi just wondering, why dont you like the Vtec

  • @davidwhitney5648
    @davidwhitney5648 8 месяцев назад

    So where is this road then? Looks like great fun and I'm wondering if I can work it into my summer trip to Germany!

    • @davidwhitney5648
      @davidwhitney5648 8 месяцев назад +1

      Nevermind, think I found it. The triangle north of Salm

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      You got it!

  • @SFSomega
    @SFSomega 8 месяцев назад

    Great bike man congratz! Good thing it is fuel injected.
    Also it's not that big of a financial commitment. If you have had enough of it you can pretty much sell it for the same amounth you got it.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      That's what I figured too!

  • @levente0101
    @levente0101 2 месяца назад

    Hey, great video. My question would be if its a good bike for taller men? I would love this bike but im around 185 cm tall.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  2 месяца назад

      That's a good question, but not one that I can answer. I'm a clear 10cm shorter! Sorry mate!

    • @levente0101
      @levente0101 2 месяца назад

      ​@@btgmotono problem, thanks for your answer!

  • @ianrussell2816
    @ianrussell2816 8 месяцев назад

    That vfr sounds awesome 🤟👍

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      YES it does :D

  • @KrazyKanucker
    @KrazyKanucker 8 месяцев назад

    Beauty! Got me thinking about one of those.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Think, or buy. Buying is good. Can recommend lol

  • @xpresscolourart5531
    @xpresscolourart5531 8 месяцев назад

    Absolutely great bike but i still prefer the blackbird

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      The day after I bought this VFR, a clean Blackbird at a great price appeared just 10kms from my house. This could have been a very different video!

  • @steveterminator4168
    @steveterminator4168 8 месяцев назад

    Nothing Better!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      VFR 4 LIFE ;)

  • @nockianlifter661
    @nockianlifter661 8 месяцев назад

    It was my dream bike for years until I returned to riding in 1997 and bought the first generation VFR 800. I have to say I hated it and sold it six months later for a the first generation BMW 1100GS which was much nicer and more fun.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I just sold my GS...

    • @nockianlifter661
      @nockianlifter661 8 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto it would be interesting to compare the early GS to the later models, they were underpowered, but had a lot of character. More like a Guzzi. I found the VFR 800 a very sterile bike, competent, but more appliance than bike. It was my first bike after a 10 year lay off and was a world away from bikes of my era. Made my neck ache as I’m quite short in the torso. The rear of the gen 1 800 had very little suspension travel according to Maxton and that’s what made pillion work difficult. I believe they improved it on the second gen bikes ?

  • @MrEvhel83
    @MrEvhel83 8 месяцев назад

    i'm going to pick up my new super clean 2010 Honda CBF 1000 (abs) 25000km on the clock with givi sidecases and topbox tomorrow. 6138 euro (70000 nok) in Norway :D

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Sounds great! 😃

  • @yorkshireperson
    @yorkshireperson 8 месяцев назад +11

    "in any other bike that would be considered high km's"? 🤔

    • @raymondwilliams5661
      @raymondwilliams5661 8 месяцев назад +2

      Bullshit.

    • @danhughes6373
      @danhughes6373 8 месяцев назад

      lol, I had an old 97 Honda F3, basically a run of the mill carbureted 600cc sport bike. the motor was untouched and it had 104,000km on it when it was 24 years old and it was finally smashed when a friend took it for a spin a few years ago. It would easily get to 240km/hr just simply passing cars but would still go higher with ease. One of the finest working maintenance free (or rather low maintenance) bikes I’ve ever owned. The friend that destroyed it wasn’t hurt nearly badly enough. 😂 he “pitch poled” it across a field off a corner at around 140…he slid on his face to a stop with a minor concussion.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      See my many other responses to this topic! Can only copy/paste so many times lol

  • @paulelverstone8677
    @paulelverstone8677 7 месяцев назад

    I've got the 36 and the 46 and the similarities are uncanny. From the seat, they have identical ergonomics. I'd take the 36 over the 46 on two major counts - the CBS and the styling. I think the 36 is the much better looking bike. Perhaps the side rads just make the 46 look fat. Fat indicators, fat arse - it's a chunk. Whole rear looks like a scooter to me. The CBS was answering a question nobody was asking and after 24yrs, all those rubber hoses are hell expensive to replace (and you'd want to). System is difficult to bleed and many people skip it. Love the engine in the 46 - has a bit more snap about it. Never had carb problems on the 36.
    Just my thoughts. Both are magnificent. 90's Honda's were the best...

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  7 месяцев назад

      Yep, I do wonder if I should have got the 36, especially now my brain is full of the costs of deleting the CBS and getting suspension that works!

    • @paulelverstone8677
      @paulelverstone8677 7 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto I ended up putting the firestorm lowers on the 46 and kept stanchion/ internals the same. It did solve the problem of de-linking (you can re-use the rear caliper. Drill the centre piston, cap the banjo and just run a brake line down to the MC. You'll need a bigger one. I got mine from the CBR6 F4) and gave me the bracketry for either SP1/2 or Firestorm calipers. I've just put a YSS on the rear.
      Budget upgrades but I only paid £1000 for my 46. Subscribed...

  • @mikeh1404
    @mikeh1404 8 месяцев назад

    Still love the VFR

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      I love mine, for sure!

  • @CunningStuntsGoFast
    @CunningStuntsGoFast 8 месяцев назад

    i hope it dont have 1 year old tires fitted like so often . i cant wait to ride in the eifel again if the temp goes up

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Soon! It was 18ºC here the other day!

    • @CunningStuntsGoFast
      @CunningStuntsGoFast 8 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto haha i ment 15 year old tires 🤪

  • @ericroman9126
    @ericroman9126 2 месяца назад

    What's the longest trip you did in a day, on the bike? thanks

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  2 месяца назад +1

      I recently did about 700kms in one day, at the end of a 3000km tour, and it was great

  • @jamesdonoghue5907
    @jamesdonoghue5907 8 месяцев назад

    It does sound good!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      V4 FTW

  • @crislister1959
    @crislister1959 8 месяцев назад

    Great video!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you very much!

  • @camperp195
    @camperp195 8 месяцев назад

    I have a gsxr k5 600 with 40,000 miles,had it from new,been in storage for 9 years now,oil changes every 3 thou miles,pulls like a train!
    Might re commission it this year

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      2000s era sportsbikes are still very competitive. Less emissions tech, less safety systems, but plenty of go!

  • @hennies9509
    @hennies9509 8 месяцев назад

    Beautiful!!!

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @twoeyedbob
    @twoeyedbob 8 месяцев назад

    God…I miss that sound so much 😢

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      It's a great noise! Thanks for the sub!

    • @twoeyedbob
      @twoeyedbob 8 месяцев назад

      @@btgmoto known about you for ages through misha’s channel ,Vfr secured the sub 😁

  • @kjeldsamsung
    @kjeldsamsung 8 месяцев назад

    Love the bike mate!
    Cheers

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks!

  • @stevetowers5358
    @stevetowers5358 8 месяцев назад

    That sounds lovely

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      It certainly does! thanks for the sub!

  • @ilpatriz
    @ilpatriz 8 месяцев назад

    Where are these roads??? I wanna ride there! ❤

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      The Eifel, in Germany. Some really cool roads here, all within an hour of the Nurburgring too :)

  • @carsyoungtimerfreak1149
    @carsyoungtimerfreak1149 8 месяцев назад

    Have to disagree... The high point is the 4th gen (RC36). It is lighter and, in my eyes, more beautiful. The carbs are no problem. You may have to rebuild them, yet that is no rocket science. I have a metalic blue one (original Honda, relatively rare) and to me it is very, very close to perfect. Not as much fun as my CBR600, not as comfortable as my RT, yet the VFR has something that neither of the other bikes have, at least to me.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Hey, I love the RC36 and was *this* close to buying one... but the RC46 is a rare example of the bike losing weight as it ages... about 10kgs when measured by most magazines.

  • @philipcooke122
    @philipcooke122 4 месяца назад

    Are you sure it's fuel injected? I noticed a choke on the bar!

    • @musguelha14
      @musguelha14 3 месяца назад

      It is, the "choke" is for making it idle faster. On newer bikes that's done automatically, but on these you have manual control.

  • @apa100
    @apa100 8 месяцев назад

    Had one vfr 750 1996 nice trusted bike but not so stabile in high speed. My brother had a ninja 600 zx6r 1996 and I have to say that was so much better sport touring in high speed cbr 600 also better choice

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      RC36 was a totally different bike, though I never noticed any instability on those either?

  • @NurburgringBikerBlog
    @NurburgringBikerBlog 8 месяцев назад

    What a Beauty!!!...🤩

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder they say! I'm pretty happy!

  • @robbiepemberton
    @robbiepemberton 8 месяцев назад

    Question, does this have ABS or just CBS?

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately just CBS on this model. You have to step up to the later VTEC for ABS.

  • @BiglumpADV
    @BiglumpADV 8 месяцев назад

    I had a VFR 800 vtec. A good bike and the engine induction sound was amazing, but it drank fuel and for some reason killed my wrists.
    But I'm fine on superbikes 🤷🏼‍♂️ #bitstrange

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      VTECs do drink fuel!

  • @jensnoeske
    @jensnoeske 8 месяцев назад

    Will it do corsica?

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe... But probably gonna take the Triumph 400

  • @erikmarkman5233
    @erikmarkman5233 8 месяцев назад

    Vfr's are the best. I have a 2002.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Congratulations!

  • @LasseJOugaard
    @LasseJOugaard 8 месяцев назад

    Great job Dale. I love how you have spent the last 5 videos testing brand new bikes, only to buy a quarter-century old "shitter" 😂
    Old Sports-tourers are close to my heart, as my dad has tried owning most of them. I actually paused the video and guessed before you talked about the alternatives. I guessed both the ST's and the Futura, but I also thought you'd say Triumph Sprint and BMW R1100S or K1200S. My dad has had a handful of both VFRs and different Ducati ST's. The Ducati is a great used buy and such an "experience" to ride, but can also be a headache if they go wrong. Personally I like the look of the RC36-1 better, but I agree with your choice that the RC46-1 is probably the best used buy.
    btw, did you ever figure out what was haunting the CBR600?

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад +1

      R1100S is a boxer, so doesn't fit in the van. Trumpet is nothing but bad juju for me. Never seen one working properly with over 50k on the clock, and they're expensive too.

  • @georgeday5901
    @georgeday5901 8 месяцев назад

    How much is 3000 euros in pound sterling?.

    • @btgmoto
      @btgmoto  8 месяцев назад

      Roughly £2500, bike is 25 years old, roughly!