He's still used all the time the only dps characters that don't want him at all are Neuv and Mualani as well as hyperbloom teams, those are loud voices but the fact Arle and Navia (the 3rd and 2nd most popular dps characters in the previous abyss respectively), Bennett is never really gone even if you can live without him.
His value in my eyes are like a double edged sword because some units that want bennett can still have strong teams without him and feel powerful like double hydro furina/ navia and arle/ chevreuse *(C6 chevreuse without signature weapon on arlecchino and if she's using a 3 star weapon instead)* with arlecchino's signature and C0 chevreuse in a double electro setup There are also some which I stand by this *where bennett whlie being the best option actually is hurting the team's possible ceiling of team DMG per rotation like ganyu, lyney, kinich, chasca, wanderer, etc* *(These Characters Can Still Get Stronger)* since these characters either have high mobility or are forced to run a defensive slot depending on the type of player you are in the team, because some of these teams force you in a circle which means you don't want to leave said circle and bennett will be paired with xiangling sometimes forcing you to almost hug the enemy, some units that would like more freedom from this would benefit them more if they get a good off field DMG dealer that buffs the team with at least 50% of the ATK buff bennett gives *(Mavuika I Hope 🙏)* Bennett in my eyes will never be perfect and quite possibly not too hard to powercreep but the question brings how much imbalance will that bring *(Will Bennett Being Paired With That 2nd ATK Buffer Or Not Be Too Much Of A Problem)* and my answer is that went out the window when neuvillette released Bennett will never fully fall off to the absolute lowest but I can see age on him that can easily be contested when it comes to teams that are ATK scaling lacking consistency in DMG per rotation
No, he didn't fell of. The same Fontaine that gaves us Furina and neuvi, is the Fontaine that gave us some of the best Bennet users like Lyney, Navia and Arle.
No, we just have more options to play. Bloom base reactions that no need atk, Hp/Def scale attackers. Or niche team such as overload but he's not mandatory. He still has his spot for anything else like with Jean or stick with XL as always has been.
06:23 arlecchino works amazing in furina teams, if you use her burst while the rest of the team is around full hp that's just free fanfare... and since she's an on fielder that's gonna happen a looottt
There’s A LOT I would need to explain on why this is very flawed but please just trust me that this is absolutely not an ideal way to play her and very little would be gained by playing this way with them. Maybe someone else can explain it but I don’t have the time to dive into it.
Doubt he'll ever be a unit that falls off as a support pyro unless the game starts giving a ton of pyro absorbing enemies. Same with getting a second Bennet Luke chevuzuse who only works for electro pyro teams as a second Bennet is just a good help for abyss. Though if they make the pyro archon's normal skill Bennet's special and her special like shogun I can see that being a good case to move her in
He went from being needed in most meta teams to not being necessary but still appreciated in most meta teams,that's as much of a fall off as what happened with nahida,they're good options in teams that Don't need them and game changers for teams that do need them
Obviously he was definitely a mistake considering hoyo didn’t have clear vision on endgame like what happened to venti and Ganyu but thankfully after Sumeru we got more options than him and kazowa as niche characters
I mean, as much as I don't like the national archetype, he _is_ decent and a lot of DPS's do like him. Thing is, I don't enjoy staying in a single place so his buffs loses a lot of value.
Saying Bennett fell off is just like saying HuTao did. I mean, they're not the always best everywhere or the best at all, but they're still doing great. Not the best ≠ useless Great video tho x)
Well Bennett did not fall off and i believe he wont fall anytime soon either, for as long as there's units that scale of ATK and need healing... basically forever... but he will have a sudden competitor in Patch 5.3, with the rumours about Pyro Traveler being a fusion between Xiangling and him, except that he apparently wont be able to heal, but his aura will follow you around, applying pyro to the enemies and dealing damage while keeping you at all times buffed. That being said we will find it out very soon, in about 3 days from now
If that rumor is true, I think Bennett can fall off, depend on how the atk buff Pyro MC can give bc instead of bringing Xiangling and Bennett, you can just bring Pyro MC and healer(or shielder or other kind of sustain unit that you want.) Yes, you can still use Bennett for the 2nd team but bc there're many team choices that don't use Bennett too. He might not fall off to the ground but I think his usage will decrease. * Is it Pyro MC who is XL+Bennett? I thought that's Mavuika.
I literally put that Eula appreciates C5 Bennett best on the screen 😅 I think I explained it enough with the text I put on screen. I know Eula is good with C5 bennett but it’s not really that necessary. In hindsight I could’ve moved her to the middle but it’s not the end of the world.
There are not many teams that I see him as a core unit, but if the team has a Pyro DPS, non Dendro related, he is the GOAT, specially thanks to his C6. In my case, I kinda made him as "niche" as possible.
I never liked bennett, xingqiu and xiangling.. uninteresting characters, and unappealing visuals.. I just used xiangling in the beginning, bc the only other pyro I had was amber, and she's not good at all.. the moment I got yanfei, my xiangling was retired.. and yanfei carried me until I got my hyperbloom team (furina c0r1, raiden, nahida c2r1, kokomi).. currently, I'm using only 4 pyros being: dehya in my mualani team (dehya c1, xilonen c2r1, mualani c2r1, sigewinne); two in my overload team (raiden, clorinde, arlecchino, chevreuse c6); and sometimes I use yoimiya in a team with zhongli, kazuha/yelan, yaoyao.. so, to me, bennett didn't fall off bc he never arose to begin with..
@ I'm not a meta slave either, but those teams still suck major ass. You can't be all like "oh I don't need this character, because I run x" and then have a team with three on fielders and a support that doesn't even fit there!
@@animewizard2029 I think that’s a topic that deserves its own highlight in itself some day since it didn’t really pertain to him falling off or not. It’s an interesting discussion!
Meant to put Eula in the middle section but was too lazy to remake that chart when editing…that’s why I put text there instead. Sorry for that 🙏
Course he fell off. Charged his skill on a mountain and the rest was history. Got an egg for him just in case.
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As long as atk scalers exist Bennett will never perish. Dread it, run from it , Circle impact arrives all the same.
Broken da Broken
It isnt that he fell off or became bad, he never will be bad, its just that he isn't a must on every single team anymore lol
I can’t tell if this is an ai voice or not it’s so clean
@@FliponYT it’s real haha. I’ve been told I’m good at public speaking so maybe I give off that impression. Thanks for checking the vid out 🙏
Can vouch that he’s very well spoken :]
@@EdoNinjaZ thank you friend 🙏
Posting this a day before mavuika's drip market is evil🤣
@@sageofsixpaths8392 Never know what kind of character she could be 🤷🏻♂️ 🤭
@Array_EB surely she wouldn't be a pyro subdps that conveniently buffs atk👀
@@sageofsixpaths8392 that is rumored to be the pyro traveler
Their was rumor about Pyro Archon is DPS (Based in burst)
He's still used all the time the only dps characters that don't want him at all are Neuv and Mualani as well as hyperbloom teams, those are loud voices but the fact Arle and Navia (the 3rd and 2nd most popular dps characters in the previous abyss respectively), Bennett is never really gone even if you can live without him.
His value in my eyes are like a double edged sword because some units that want bennett can still have strong teams without him and feel powerful like double hydro furina/ navia and arle/ chevreuse *(C6 chevreuse without signature weapon on arlecchino and if she's using a 3 star weapon instead)* with arlecchino's signature and C0 chevreuse in a double electro setup
There are also some which I stand by this *where bennett whlie being the best option actually is hurting the team's possible ceiling of team DMG per rotation like ganyu, lyney, kinich, chasca, wanderer, etc* *(These Characters Can Still Get Stronger)* since these characters either have high mobility or are forced to run a defensive slot depending on the type of player you are in the team, because some of these teams force you in a circle which means you don't want to leave said circle and bennett will be paired with xiangling sometimes forcing you to almost hug the enemy, some units that would like more freedom from this would benefit them more if they get a good off field DMG dealer that buffs the team with at least 50% of the ATK buff bennett gives *(Mavuika I Hope 🙏)*
Bennett in my eyes will never be perfect and quite possibly not too hard to powercreep but the question brings how much imbalance will that bring *(Will Bennett Being Paired With That 2nd ATK Buffer Or Not Be Too Much Of A Problem)* and my answer is that went out the window when neuvillette released
Bennett will never fully fall off to the absolute lowest but I can see age on him that can easily be contested when it comes to teams that are ATK scaling lacking consistency in DMG per rotation
No, he didn't fell of. The same Fontaine that gaves us Furina and neuvi, is the Fontaine that gave us some of the best Bennet users like Lyney, Navia and Arle.
No, we just have more options to play. Bloom base reactions that no need atk, Hp/Def scale attackers. Or niche team such as overload but he's not mandatory. He still has his spot for anything else like with Jean or stick with XL as always has been.
Me: He will never put the catch
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06:23 arlecchino works amazing in furina teams, if you use her burst while the rest of the team is around full hp that's just free fanfare... and since she's an on fielder that's gonna happen a looottt
There’s A LOT I would need to explain on why this is very flawed but please just trust me that this is absolutely not an ideal way to play her and very little would be gained by playing this way with them.
Maybe someone else can explain it but I don’t have the time to dive into it.
Doubt he'll ever be a unit that falls off as a support pyro unless the game starts giving a ton of pyro absorbing enemies.
Same with getting a second Bennet Luke chevuzuse who only works for electro pyro teams as a second Bennet is just a good help for abyss.
Though if they make the pyro archon's normal skill Bennet's special and her special like shogun I can see that being a good case to move her in
Atk scaling and converted atk scaling still dominates characters roster. Def and hp scalling are minority. So Bennett still be used.
ofc he did, he tripped on a pebble and fell of Dragonspine again
He will rise again, reborn in Natlan.
RageBait ahhhh video😭✋️
He went from being needed in most meta teams to not being necessary but still appreciated in most meta teams,that's as much of a fall off as what happened with nahida,they're good options in teams that Don't need them and game changers for teams that do need them
Obviously he was definitely a mistake considering hoyo didn’t have clear vision on endgame like what happened to venti and Ganyu but thankfully after Sumeru we got more options than him and kazowa as niche characters
Pyro traveler was doomed to be useless from the very beginning because of this guy. Leaks say 60% bonus attack LOL. STILL USELESS!
I want to remove Bennett in my team but all them need him so badly
I mean, as much as I don't like the national archetype, he _is_ decent and a lot of DPS's do like him. Thing is, I don't enjoy staying in a single place so his buffs loses a lot of value.
I know he's good, and I avoid using him as much as possible
I use Kinich daily, and i have a c4 (iirc) Bennett just sitting in my barracks. I know Bennett is really good for Kinich, i just don't like him...
With Kinich use him more than ever 😅
Saying Bennett fell off is just like saying HuTao did. I mean, they're not the always best everywhere or the best at all, but they're still doing great. Not the best ≠ useless
Great video tho x)
Do xiangling next please. Lets see if fell off or not?
Well Bennett did not fall off and i believe he wont fall anytime soon either, for as long as there's units that scale of ATK and need healing... basically forever... but he will have a sudden competitor in Patch 5.3, with the rumours about Pyro Traveler being a fusion between Xiangling and him, except that he apparently wont be able to heal, but his aura will follow you around, applying pyro to the enemies and dealing damage while keeping you at all times buffed. That being said we will find it out very soon, in about 3 days from now
If that rumor is true, I think Bennett can fall off, depend on how the atk buff Pyro MC can give bc instead of bringing Xiangling and Bennett, you can just bring Pyro MC and healer(or shielder or other kind of sustain unit that you want.) Yes, you can still use Bennett for the 2nd team but bc there're many team choices that don't use Bennett too. He might not fall off to the ground but I think his usage will decrease.
* Is it Pyro MC who is XL+Bennett? I thought that's Mavuika.
Still broken as ever
why did you put eula and fremi in doesn't need , he is still practically their best support also ayaka when unnfreezable enemy
I literally put that Eula appreciates C5 Bennett best on the screen 😅
I think I explained it enough with the text I put on screen. I know Eula is good with C5 bennett but it’s not really that necessary. In hindsight I could’ve moved her to the middle but it’s not the end of the world.
@@Array_EB yeah i have seen it but i thought this is exactly what the middle tier is for, whatever
eula uses bennet, right? 4:04 weird tierlist
also ayaka current strongest team consist of c6 bennet with jean xd
@@sterbsen 4:03 … Genshin player can’t read moment. It’s in yellow text on the screen my friend. Not sure why you chose to ignore it haha
There are not many teams that I see him as a core unit, but if the team has a Pyro DPS, non Dendro related, he is the GOAT, specially thanks to his C6. In my case, I kinda made him as "niche" as possible.
man that tierlist is whole 30% wrong, do you play bennet?
I never liked bennett, xingqiu and xiangling.. uninteresting characters, and unappealing visuals.. I just used xiangling in the beginning, bc the only other pyro I had was amber, and she's not good at all.. the moment I got yanfei, my xiangling was retired.. and yanfei carried me until I got my hyperbloom team (furina c0r1, raiden, nahida c2r1, kokomi).. currently, I'm using only 4 pyros being: dehya in my mualani team (dehya c1, xilonen c2r1, mualani c2r1, sigewinne); two in my overload team (raiden, clorinde, arlecchino, chevreuse c6); and sometimes I use yoimiya in a team with zhongli, kazuha/yelan, yaoyao.. so, to me, bennett didn't fall off bc he never arose to begin with..
No wonder your teams kinda suck. Bennett would be amazing in half the teams you just counted, and better than the character you use.
Who in the hell run yaoyao in a yoimiya team
@@mihacimpric745 thoese teams are never suckes bro he is enjoying the game he is not META SLAVE 😭
@@AH_125 Suck or not doesn't matter as long as that person still enjoy the game 🤝
@ I'm not a meta slave either, but those teams still suck major ass. You can't be all like "oh I don't need this character, because I run x" and then have a team with three on fielders and a support that doesn't even fit there!
I'm surprised you didn't mention the controversy about his C6.
@@animewizard2029 I think that’s a topic that deserves its own highlight in itself some day since it didn’t really pertain to him falling off or not. It’s an interesting discussion!