Open-gangway subways in service on C line, letting riders walk from one car to the next
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- They're the first of their kind in the country, and on Thursday CBS New York's Elijah Westbrook got up-close look at what makes them so unique.
I’ve had an amazing time on the R211T and so far I’ve attended both R211A and R211T Inaugural runs. I hope to attend The R211S Inaugural run as well.
Finally you yanks are catching up to the oldest tube/subway system in the world - the London Underground. We've had some walk thru trains for years. Welcome aboard! 🥰
Lmao.. "you yanks"
Yeah, yeah, our public transit system is shoddy compared to Europe's. Believe me, we know it, we hate it, we can't do squat about it.
I was on that train today!😀
Less seats is what I noticed first.
Exactly.
They saved money by adding less seats😂😂
People are like "service is too slow". Their response is to make less seats and wider doors. It is like making a wish to a genii bottle. This is what we get : /@@lokomono89
Less seats are good so that there is more standing room
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 Oh I’m aware. MTA board want people stacked in there like sardines. They’ve been beating that drum for awhile now. They originally wanted to raise the seats up during rush hour but that idea was shot down. I guess this is the next best thing for them.
Nice. Keep upgrading the trains!
Now since they got this Mta car upgrade kids can’t subway surf and it’s just going through cars it looks amazing
Now they'll windsurf between cars🎶🎶🎶
You can still hop on the end, afaik thats what most people do
Don't like it. I can pick the car with less possible trouble, now you have trouble moving car to car.
The euro system is clean, old but clean, YOU GOING TO MIMIC THAT?
No more train surfing?
My gosh so little seats man... what were they thinking? No corner seats and the ones in the middle do not extend all the way to the doors making the middle seat even tighter.
They want to save money by providing less seats
@@clydepk3067 🤮🤮
@@jeahavvalentin980The last thing the MTA or the government ever intends to do is save money.
Their entire purpose is to steal as much money as they can, and waste as much as they can.
@@clydepk3067
They should just remove the stupid bar in the middle of the seats like r32 or r44 did.
jus stand
So now you won't be able to escape the stench of a homeless car
Oh geez I didn't even think about that
Yes that too
Because the smell will carry a full 6 cars away… Totally…
Why do we need to walk through the cars for? I don't even understand how this helps ppl with mobility issues. You choose a spot on the platform and go in. Their just making it easier to torment us with showtime. And now when someone is smoking crack other substances on the train it will permeate more cars.
The thing that helps disabled people is the wider doors. It makes it easier for people in wheelchairs to get on and off.
It’s a tech that literally every other country uses. It helps people spread out more on trains and increases capacity
it allows passenger loads to be evenly spread throughout the train instead of everyone mostly boarding the cars in the middle
Every other country literally has this
"They're the first of their kind in the country"
BMT D-Types (1925), Seattle Center Monorail (1962), BART's Oakland Connector (2014), Honolulu's SkyLine (2023) ...to name a few.
Exactly. I hate it when people don’t do their research.
The UK had this concept of open cars in 2015 when I was there.
And just north in Canada. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver have had these for years.
Stupid idea. Now when someone makes one car smell they will all smell like shit
Don't say that.
R46 AND R211 SUBWAY CARS IS THE BEST
I agree, those things ride like Cadillacs when they are working properly. I love the tan floor ones and original lighting. More seats too.
Any NYCTA rolling stock made before the R160s are the best.
You nimbys need to stop complaining too much about open gangway train cars. Just enjoy the ride.
Enjoy what? someone blasting music? or wanting to move and see a homeless on the other carts so you go back to where you originally were to lose your seat!? mainly there's no "enjoying" the MTA train not one bit!
@@M4TTYN Okay, Mr. Negative nimby-son! How about you enjoy the new gangway train car for your first time. Don't even think about homeless people or other messy stuff.
@durece100 marry the R211T if you love it so much. 🙄
@@robroy6374 How stupid are you making jokes at me?
Nahhh they are misspending our money. They should be doing projects that make more sense. We have a right to complain about stupid decisions that waste public money or force us to pay through congestion pricing.
There will be no escaping that smell
That’s in certain cars we all know.
I'm getting a metro/omny card just to ride this.
😂😂 I BET U THE GOVERNOR TOOK A BIG BRIBE 4 THIS !!!!!!
This design was already in the Subway system since the late 1920s the BMT Triplex. What they did was combine the open gangway design of the BMT Triplex with the bodyshell of the Kawasaki R160Bs. I wonder where will the R211Ts assigned to the C train run during the late nights. One possibility is to combine R211A rear 5 and R211T first 5 on the A train the other set running Euclid to Lefferts shuttle and then combine the two 5 cars sets of R211T as the first Lefferts to UWS 207th st connection to Bx12
they not gonna do that too much work
You know..I kinda like that idea!
An Open car set, with a regular set.. might help ease away the Unions fears of the rail cars.
Gotta admit, that Is a damn good idea.
You Should pass that along to "the powers that be".
I’m a NYC train Conductor and as for the public yes this looks nice BUT I’ve just had recently training on them last week. These trains are going to be a problem from an operation point. They are issues ( safety) that we went through. Hence why they are not allowed to be on the express track and other things I can’t mention.
Have the people making this decision ever ridden the subway in NYC. Yes the rest of the world has this BUT there is no need and even disadvantages. And I bet everyone who rides the subway regularly knows exactly what I mean and everyone who doesn’t (or seldom does) is saying “what could be the disadvantage?”
That's why it's a test.
It’s a test fool! God damn
Haha "Toronto, Canada was the First in North America to have Articulated Subway Trains it is Used on Line 1 and Line 4 Subway Lines"
Where can I take a piss or smoke drugs on that train?
You can't. Go and take a leak in the bathroom and don't smoke on a train, don't it outside.
😆😂 good one!
Nowhere 🤷🏽♂️
Use it in the outdoor bathroom to take a piss and smoke outdoors.
@@durece100 nope
Now the whole train will smell like stinky hobo instead of a single car
.... so? .... if ONE car needs servicing - the WHOLE train goes out of service ?? .... good plan (sarcasm)
Will they actually be running for real this time? Or are they going to find another bunch of problems that will delay the rollout for another 2 years?
so you would prefer they not find the problems and rollout anyway?
@@Tortilla.Reform I'd rather they do this like any other organization and not take 2 years to launch a new train. Of course there will be issues. 2-3 months delay max. Not years.
How noisy are they? How much light pollution does these emit? And why are they torturing everyone with FORCED screens?
But How many R211 ts have been already been delivered?
I attended second run was good and amazing
The accessibility is nice for people that need it, but personally, I dont like this style of car. It will make it easy for anyone that wants to harrass or attack passengers in mass. Also, stank gonna spread. I prefer segregated cars. If some nonsense is happening in one or it stinks, you can go to another. Also, not as many seats. They really want us to pay more fare to stand and be late to work.
EVERY coin has two sides !! ... it's only a matter of time before we discover flaws & faults & issues !!
Meanwhile @mta I'm riding in 45 year old trains 🚇 on the Q train so I'm not impressed 👎🏻🤷🏻🤦🏻
And if there wss ever an incident with a active shooter. They now have access through the whole train. Instead of being confined to just the one car. Luckily NYC is such a safe city in 2024.
flipside - video cameras in every car. immediate halt - evacuate. even better if cops are already onboard - same access to the shooter in the situation you're complaining about.
I think people overestimate how hard it is to shoot that far on a moving train, unless you have specialized war weapons in which case it doesn't really matter if there's open gates or not. But ultimately, active shooters shouldn't happen in the first place (and thankfully NY has pretty tight gun laws so it's not as common there).
@@darkwoodmoviesLOL. People who want to do that don't care about your silly gun laws.
And double LOL at specialized war weapons! What in the world are those?
Anybody with even a basic skill level with firearms can light people up with anything from a pump shotgun, to a handgun with iron sights and red dots. Then there's rifles.
LOL.. specialized war weapons! You anti gun people constantly find a new low on what you people actually know about guns.
PS. The military for example sidearm is a sig p320 . It's a 9mm handgun. The military also uses a Mossberg 590a1 shotgun. Which you can buy or a cheaper version of the 590. Or a 500 series... Or a maverick 88 which is mostly the same for 20 bucks.
Rifles are being replaced at the moment but they're essentially ARs. The new guns aren't ARs but they're similar enough that as far as the battery of arms and operation of it. It's an AR.
LOL some more at specialized war weapons.
@@____sejThere's cameras in schools too. And for that matter the majority of places these things happen in.
People out to do that stuff don't care about cameras. More and more are recording themselves doing it and streaming it.
@@albundy06 So the city should not revamp subway cars that give better access to the handicap because of a hypothetical shooting in which you can't prove whether the outcome will be better or worse than older subway cars?
More homeless will use this train. Easier for them to get between cars to beg.
Exactly
Kathy behind the wheel
Bums/beggars get to move across cars smoothly now.
Dumb now if there is some1 who stinks on the train, the smell will take up the whole train not just 1 subway car
Now instead of 1 lonely subway apartment for the homeless now they a mansion with a north and south wing.
About time.
Then only thing unique is that they chased out the homeless and gang muggers for Hochul’s photo op.
Great, for when these join other lines the homeless smell can flood the whole train oh goodie! but these won't hit major lines till like 2028 or something knowing the MTA "speed" not rushing them but riding on them dated and Ancient trains of the 6 line i want something new!
And we for sure need a "hey someone puked mind cleaning it up" button cause i rode to work with vomit & few times shit all the way and surely that's a great way to start a work day! and bet hochul ain't mention getting the homeless services cause they are STILL taking refugee on the trains and stations *COME ON DO SOMETHING!* at that messing with us working tax payers too!
Still look horrible comparing to ones in Bangkok
Agreed
Crimes were committed in ONE subway car, now its 8x faster in one felt swoop.
Yes sir true indeed
Hochul must go!
Imagine if a criminal with a gun or knife commit a crime on one section now they can easily move to the next with no obstacle what a wonderful idea smh
You been watching too much social media.
@@durece100 you don't live in NY do you
@@rokmare Yes I lived in New York.
They made it easier for them. Chasing them 8 subway cars would be tough.
The criminals are the overjoyed.
R46 will live on forever 1975 era its history enter service will live on forever late 40
They can only roll out 1 more R211T trainset in the days ahead because they only have a total of 2.
It’s a subway car that still has a MOB during rush hours!
If only we were SAFE when we went down there!!!
The 1970's ???? Thats a Helluva Run !
It's about the added capicty since people can stand between train cars
It's about the MTA finding any way possible to spend billions of dollars.
now when a gang of smoke weeds all people on the train can smelll it now.
Everyone is going to get high in all 8 subway cars.
“GANGWAY “ ?
These trains need to be on the 1 line and go express.
Its impossible
@@arielgonzalez5296 Hope so!
Monica!!!!✌🏾
MTA SERVICE BUSES MTA OK
We are f-- if there is a fire in that train!!! Can you imagine how fast the train will smoke up!
Smoke up, thought the comment was for hot boxing.
Even less seats for people that might be injured, elderly, or pregnant -- or just tired !
Great panhandlers and people with mental health issues can move through the train more efficiently
Nice……..now the funk from the homeless guy can waft “seamlessly”from car to car and the pan handlers can walk freely to harass riders who just want to be left alone…….AND and…….god forbid we have another active shooter situation like in 2022, he or she has more victims to choose from……another great idea at taxpayers expense. I can only imagine the other garbage they’re going to buy once it starts RAINING congestion pricing money.
Doesn't look safe to operate in a gun loving country.
How the bum smells will be in the Whole train... smh
Now everyone can enjoy the aroma of a un housed neighbor!💩🤮
Im not in train R211 because BMT dont have R211T!
Ah yes, MTA's move towards cattle cars. I love the R42 with it's 70 to 76 scooped style seat accommodations, with the double front/rear facing 2 seaters equally spaced apart. Now we have the modern subway cattle car with the flat uni-seat where up to 30 people can sit, or 5 homeless can lay comfortable. I would love it if they replaced the door closing chime with a few moos.
Lol.
No new yorker ive spoken to even wants these. How are we gonna get away from somone harassing you or a stinky car... Hoodlums are gonna be runing up and down. The MTAs priorities are all messed up are you guys drunk in the meetings? We woulda been fine with cameras.... And you saving money and not forcing congestion pricing. They need to get back to basics ..
Exactly
So don't ride it.
@@jdredman what a dumb retort. Instead of asking accountability of the MTA for the billions they are misspending you wanna tell me not to ride the train? Ok bro.
@@LAWLESSKING haha exactly
Instead of barriers to protect the public more trains to hurt people.
I like that they are helping the disabled and they have cameras. Does this mean they will catch actual criminals? I think they need a law that you can’t cover your face. Since masks don’t work against Covid , of course the only people allowed to wear them should be people with medical needs like cancer patients or those with immune issues. But these guys cover their faces to hide from their crimes.
You have a very good point. However it's not society's responsibility. It falls on human exercising eugenics. Prevention. Don't put it in the front door. Use the attic or the back door. Forgive my bluntness.
And of course, there will be your share of New Yorkers who will find some faults with the new cars for various reasons based on personal fears and self loathing.
Governor Kathy is the best 👍
LOL. Like when she gutted a right to repair bill on the final hour that had almost 100 percent bipartisan support.
And she killed the bill with her lobbyist pals.
Or the way she feels about your 2a rights.
She's corrupt and stupid. Even for Democrat standards.
Will stink all trains from now on
Stop being negative.
I don't care, the older ones are better cause they got more seats. Shame on the MTA. Why everyone is so impatient that we have to make wider doors and less seats for Speed instead of comfort.@@durece100
@@durece100 nyc is shitty city filled with filth and crime and corruption.
No one is being negative
@@robroy6374 Yes they do.