Thanks for requesting this one and please let me know if there are other brands you'd like tested in the future. Here are the brands tested. Thanks again, Todd Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order): Titebond Original: amzn.to/2QhkJ2O Titebond II: amzn.to/2QdqYoe Titebond III: amzn.to/2QezTpB Elmer's Wood Glue Max: amzn.to/3gk0sUT Elmer's Craft Glue: amzn.to/32ey5T1 Elmer's Original Wood Glue: amzn.to/3aMhLwF Gorilla Wood Glue: amzn.to/3hkLdfU Flex Glue: amzn.to/3l1vtkd
There is an ad on here for a product called Bondic, a u.v. Activated bonding plastic weld glue, it claims to be 50 times stronger bond than anything on the market.. LETS TEST THAT!
I would have liked to see Liquid Nailz, Liquid Nailz Heavy Duty, and Locktite adhesive tested also. It'd be nice to see how they fair against the glues & It'd be great to see if they perform as good as [or better] than the Flex-Seal/glue that was used in this video. Thanks & thumbs-up 👍😎👍
I know I've said it before, but I'll never stop being amazed by the incredible amount of work you put into your videos to help others make the right buying decisions. Thank you!
I’m a 16 year old girl, who does very little woodworking/construction related but I thoroughly enjoy these videos. I really appreciate the amount of time and professionalism you put into these. Keep it up.
As a chemical engineer who worked with the formulators and chemists at Franklin International(makers of Titebond), they use the best materials on the market and their R/D is up there with other Fortune 500 companies I worked with. Glad to see it holds up in the field haha I need some for a shop table
Bill Banksey (I think that's how you spell his last name) Bill was one of, if not, the lead chemist at Franklin. If I ever had a question posed by an "anal retentive woodworker" about the chemical componentry or science about adhesives - Bill would let me call him at Franklin and I'd pass the phone to the customer. Bill would keep the guy on the phone going through "the science" all right 😅. Over my 20 year career in the industry Bill and the company he worked for are the clear winners and always will be.
Pretty sure most of these wood glues would be stronger than the wood with a proper glue joint. Unfortunately this youtuber didn't test any proper glue joints... wood glue is only stronger than wood on long grain joints. End grain joints or cross grain joints require jointery. In the form of a mortise and tennon, dowels, a domino jointer, etc.
Today we’ll be testing air from various locations in the USA and see how effective they are in removing saw dust. Next week: Does Chinese air clear up your saw dust better than American air.
I just realized how perfect this channel is. You are the People’s Champion. Doing all the tests so we don’t have to. It’s saving money and also encourages companies to up their game in certain areas. It’s entertaining, informative and educational. Thanks!
i don't buy shit now without hitting PF to see if he tested it. i bought a new weed whacker recently and the 1st thing i did was respool it with line he tested. the weedwacker works great and the line he tested, max power twisted i barely use any when trimming my yard.
This morning I received a delivery from Amazon with Vibratite thread lock, Evaporust, and JB Weld epoxy, all products you’ve tested to which my wife replied “I’m going to write to that farm guy you’ve been watching and ask him to block you from watching his videos”. ☹️. When I showed her the glue test results she responded in relief saying “thank goodness” knowing that I’ve been using Titebond II for over 30 yrs and Titebond III since it was released and always have a gallon of each in the workshop. Many years ago I was using the more expensive and messy West System epoxy for exterior work until Titebond II and III was released. I’ll use Titebond II because it sets faster and reduces my clamping time. Keep up the good work and please ignore any comments from my well meaning wife.
I've used Titebond III for all my cutting boards for 15 years now without a single failure. Many of my customers (and my wife) have warped them by nearly an inch over 19 inches by letting them soak in water and all have come back after drying out. I'm not switching. Thanks for the affirmation!
As a cabinet installer and finish carpenter, I really appreciate this test. We use Titebond II. I'm honestly shocked by the strength of all these glues.
No kidding, the Elmar’s craft glue was the biggest surprise in how well it performed. Also, was glad to see what a waste of money flex glue was, highest price, worst performer.
@@SnowManson Yeah, I think all the Flex branded products are junk. I picked up a can of the black Flex Seal when it was only available from mail order just to try it. Yeah, absolute garbage. It didn't even stick onto wood for 6 months before most of it just weathered away .
Here’s an idea, the best product to remove limescale since most people don’t have a water softener. Keep up the great work buddy, the world needs more people like you.
You consistently have the best comparison reviews. I don't know how you find the time. I get tired just watching all the testing and research you do! Thank you.
I'm blown away of how well most of these glues performed. I had no idea that wood glue would be able to handle weights in the range of thousands of pounds/kilograms! Impressive. Amazing video as always.
So I just went to Home Depot to buy wood glue feeling uneasy there wasn't a Project Farm video on which wood glue is best. Came home with Titebond 3 and wouldn't you know it Project Farm made a video about wood glue. Kinda weird feeling but I'm excited that I chose the second best product. Actually my wife did lol. Thanks for your videos, they mean a lot to me!
Another nice thing about Tibebond 3 is the longer open time, for more complex glue ups, and the fact you can use it in lower temp situations, like a cold shop. Nice test.
This is actually the most important aspect to me as I live in Arizona where its hot and dry. Some days it is near impossible to spread out the glue one two small board edges and get them mated together before the glue starts to skin over. That is why I use TB3. However, this testing was interesting and I'm glad to see it is also the strongest (although pretty much any glue is strong enough for woodworking).
Titebond 3 is pretty much all I use. I've heard too many horror stories about people's furniture falling apart due to flooding or fire srinklers... Plus my woodwork often ventures outside, making planters right now.
My dad built houses for years and used Elmer's wood glue on the subfloor. On the house he was building for himself the backhoe operator put too much dirt instead of gravel and blew out the foundation while I was on the house. The glue held the floor together very well, it made me a believer in Elmer's glue. That was 35 years ago and I'm still here to talk about it.
If only one single politician were as fair, diligent, hard worker and crystal clear explaining the way you do. You are making the world a better place. Please, never stop.
as a woodworker i was especially interested in this one....good to know i’m not wasting money on titebond 3. as usual, hanks for taking the time to do this test and making the video.
Project Farm: titebond 3 really is a great product because it tends to hold up outdoors, where glues that are not designed for exterior break down and ruin projects. so you spend a couple bucks more but you’re guaranteed a proper bond that stays, and your not having to rebuild, redo, or repair. it’s aggravating and a waste of time. i’d rather spend this limited time on this planet doing something that brings joy. i’ll spend the extra bucks all day long. i bet your life on that farm, even thou a lot of work, is a real treat to wake up to. life, joy, and wood glue in the same comment.
I want to say this channel is not just a channel. You offer amazing value and a public service. The ability to see products and decide what you want is invaluable. Thank you so much.
It would be great if you had a document with a "Project Farm" seal of approval. It would be super convenient to have a reference to check quickly while at the hardware store. Love the channel, thanks for the amazing videos!
A compilation videos of the things covered so far that links to the old ones. Really would be a good idea, since some comments ask things that were covered in older videos.
This was a really great test - confirmed some of my suspicions about the strength of various wood glues. However, as an idea for a followup video... All of the glue joints tested in this video involved glue on end grain. This is a woodworking no-no (but we all do it, sometimes). When we apply glue to end grain, we never get the strongest joints. Conventional wisdom says it is because the end grain wicks most of the moisture out of the glue before it can properly cure - thus making the glue itself weaker than the wood it adheres to. I'm not sure if that is the reason, but end-grain joints are definitely weaker. Now that you've established which glues are stronger than than others, it would be really fun re-run the experiments with edge-grain to edge-grain joints. According to the claims of most wood glue manufacturers, the wood should fail before the glue does. It would be interesting to see how true that statement is. It would also be interesting to find out just how much stronger ideal woodworking joints are. Keep up the good work!
I used to work in test and evaluation in a missile guidance lab, and I have to tell you that you do a great job with your test methodology. Thanks for taking the time and going to the trouble of designing repeatable test set-ups. Also, Titebond II is what a lot of folks (including myself) use to repair guitar necks and headstocks. Good to see a test that confirms it's a good choice!
When I inquired about the wood glue test, I didn't think you'd do it in less than a week!!! Thanks for doing it. Now I know which one to use to glue my precious Duck walking cane.
I'm even more impressed with these glues considering all of your tests involved end-grain glue-ups, which are by far the weakest glue joint possible. I'm not sure your test rig could have handled some of these with two faces glued together!
It would be impossible to get good test results without using endgrains. turn the pieces side to side and the test piezes will fail before the glue with any old regular woodglue.
Both of these comments are very important! I was upset that he was gluing endgrain at first, then I thought about where the failure would be if he didn't.
Renax the Many, you are right. In prep for this video, I did some testing and it became a "strongest board" showdown using long grain. The test rig will handle up to 10,000 pounds without a problem.
Good data for the test is that by gluing the end grain, the glue will have a chance to wick into the grain. Even more so because he used pine. The TBIII should lead the pack in that test since it is the runniest of the bunch. What still amazes me is how strong the joints can still be even with poor fit up (in my experience).
*100%* I've actually *left the store* due to poor reception in order to see if PF has a video just to head back in and purchase what I need. He's an absolute champion.
I’d love a revisit of this. I feel like both the formulations, and your testing (ideas and equipment), have improved. I watch all of your videos before I purchase anything. Sometimes it even removes “brand loyalty”. Thank you for being you. Love to see a polyurethane based “construction adhesive” thrown into the mix.
It's people like you that help develop enjoyable lives. When I started out wood carving as a teenager, I did so with the intent of making something nice for my grandmother. A small crude figurine of an angel, but in her will, she wished to be buried with it. After that, I started livestreaming Dremel projects, and then became a furniture maker, specializing in desks. Because of my dad died before he could teach me more about carpentry, I had to RUclips a lot of specifics like voltage differences in power tools, grit on sandpaper, effectiveness of wood glue, etc so the least I could do is take one minute to write out this comment for what clearly took you a long time to do, just to help us out.
End-grain joints have a bad reputation, but wood is wood and glue is glue. The joint failures are often caused by ignoring wood movement when fastening end grain to edge grain, letting the end grain soak up all the glue so there's little left in the actual joint, or an incorrect assumption that an edge grain and end grain joint failure would look the same.
@@TheSnekkerShow The " bad reputation" to end-grain to end-grain is will deserve exactly for its ability to suck up the glue which is why industries spend millions of dollars on machines that create finger joints for end-grain glue-up, like you said wood is wood and glue is glue but is not always equal. here an interesting clip of such a machine in action, ruclips.net/video/nZv6EWA_hgc/видео.html
When doing endgrain glue-ups, I like to 'pre-treat' the wood with some water thinned PVA (Titebond, Elmers, etc) glue to seal up the ends so when I actually glue them together, the glue isn't soaked up by the wood and out of the joint. I haven't done any destructive tests such as the ones done here, but anecdotally, the glue joints seem to be much more reliable. I usually use the 'belt and suspenders' technique of zipping a fastener of some sort into them too, if possible.
I did my own little test recently. I used Titebond 3 to edge glue two pieces of 1/8 " hardwood together. I didn't think that 1/8 gave me enough surface area but after the glue was dried I bent the wood parallel to the glue joint. The wood broke but not at the joint. Great stuff!
I was going through gallons of the Titebond 2 and when the 3 came out I switched to it. Have never had any one complain about glue failure even when pushing it far past what it should have ! Sets fast and sets strong! Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
I was really surprised how well the Elmer's glue did. I always considered them a "kids" glue because we used Elmer's glue in grade school. One of the interesting things about this test is that all these were end grain joints, which is the weakest way to glue wood. I would love to see a similar test comparing different connection methods. Glued, pocket screws, dry mortise and tenon and glued mortise and tenon.
We did a bunch of different joints in a woodshop experiment over 50 years ago. On any of the joints done properly, and no end to end joints, the wood failed before any of the glues did, including regular old Elmer's. We didn't do any wet testing. The teacher wanted to show us that if we put stuff together correctly, it was strong as hell.
@You Wish Yes! I built a desk one time and forgot to square the base of it before attaching the top and 20 minutes later I realised my mistake and thought it would be easy to take the top off and square the base. I took the screws out and could not get the top off. I used a block and hammer and it would not break loose. I gave up because I didn't want to damage the top trying to get it off. It was only out of square less than a quarter inch and was only noticeable from the back so I didn't mind it too much. I learned that day just how good it can hold.
Love everything about this channel, from the quality of the testing to the editing it’s perfect. Would love to see some testing on different brands of ratchet/socket sets if you’re looking to test some tools. Thank you for all the content you put up mate 👌🏻
I love how this guy’s voice sounds like an announcer/commentator throughout the video, it’s a nice thing to hear from the older videos. A little flavor text never hurt anyone
I like how he throws in the flex bond products. All test I've seen has shown that they are overpriced low quality products like most as seen on tv products but people still buy them. Amazing what television "programming" will do.
@Richard Vaughn its overpriced. Get you some eternabond tape. It is pricey but it's the best self sealing tape there is. Also the zip tape from lowes is 25 bucks for a 90 foot roll and it's better than flex tape. It's made for the zip boards but you can use it for anything. Very uv resistant Last a long time too. Eternabond has been on my camper roof for 6 years and still plyable and stuck down
You are brilliant and conduct the most in-depth research testing of anyone on the planet. Absolutely the best! I followed you for YEARS and I hope you NEVER die!!!
I'd be interested to see how these glues perform against construction adhesive. John Heisz, for example, is notorious for using construction adhesive in place of glue.
@@AnomadAlaska that's great for projects, but for construction applications, construction adhesive is a must. Not only is it an adhesive, but it also fills in voids and imperfections in the lumber - which is why it works so well for floor sheathing and stair treads.
I have been watching your videos for as long as you have been making them. I love them. Thank you so very much. You are putting in a crap ton of work and I want you to know that you are the first place I look when I am planning on buying anything. Truly the best. Thank you, thank you, oh and thank you.
Love your testing videos, but there is a slight issue with this one - gluing to end-grain always results in a poor joint. The porous nature of the end-grain soaks up the glue and tends to give a dry joint. Ideally, for bond testing it should be face grain to face grain. Anyway, keep up the great work - love the vids.
@@ProjectFarm Yep, definitely. In woodworking, when you can't avoid gluing end-grain, you go to great lengths to pre-soak the end-grain by applying glue, letting it wick in and partially cure, and then repeating as many times as it takes to have it stop wicking in, and only then put the joint together. When you're gluing long-grain to long-grain, none of that is necessary and nearly every adequately-clamped joint will fail at the wood, not at the glue. That being said, though, I think maybe that's a good argument for doing the test exactly as you did it. Had you glued a bunch of boards long-grain to long-grain and performed the same tests, you would have essentially (probably) been testing not the relative strength of the glue, but the relative strengths of each wood sample.
Lewis Taylor. Correct but with a correct bond, the timber would break before the glue so the test would end up being a wood strength test. I think that making a weaker joint is possibly better for consistency.
@@Peter-976 Agreed that is a valid point - it was like-for-like testing and so certainly has some validity and some useful information. However, due to the glue uptake of the end grain and variable nature of wood and the viscosity of the glues, you could end up with an extra uncontrolled variable which could influence the performance of the glue.
I was using Gorilla because of its foaming ability but when I ran out in the middle of project I went back to Tightbond, I had laying, and found it did perform better as your tests show. Thanks
mark marcinik Are you referring to Gorilla Glue's polyurethane glue? That product does foam and expand when curing. But, I believe the Gorilla Glue product tested here is their "regular" woodworking glue. I would have actually loved to have seen a couple of the polyurethane woodworking glues tested here to see how they compared. My experience with polyurethane glues (which requires pre-moistening of the bonding surfaces to aid curing) is that they create a very robust bond that is totally waterproof.
Bunny Warren : I agreed about the ultimate strength but they are must -wear- gloves sticky compared to water watery Elmers and sometimes that is an advantage .
I’ve been using Elmers all purpose glue and Wood glue or ever since the 70s I remember working in the furniture factory and they used the furniture glue on all the wood pieces! So I guess it was a good glue the sofas are still standing!
@@cabbyhubbyI have had pretty good success just mixing the saw dust from that particular wood species (pile from under the table saw with titebond 1 or 2 or others (not titebond 3, nothing sticks to it like paint or stain). My homemade wood filler will stain darkest though because of the absorbtion with the saw dust. I have stopped using wood fillers because of waste when storing it.
@@johnwayne2103 My father works at a sheet metal/construction company. They use something called Lord Glue (metal only) but it's apparently stronger than welding.
Seems the wood grain had a significant affect on the strength of the bond. The boards with tighter wood grain had significantly stronger bonds than those without. I don’t know how you take that into account when making multiple test pieces for each product. But I still enjoyed this video.
Can I just say that Project Farm is by far my favorite RUclips channel. I'm at a point to where I will not buy anything until I see his unbiased reviews, whether its batteries, oil, or glue. I come here for not only the reviews of comments, but for the content itself. Project Farm, I know you say you read all comments so I would just like to say my hat is off to you, and I want to thank you for the time you put into these videos. In the world of weeds that is RUclips, Its nice to know that there is still people out there like you that still make great quality, amazing videos. Thank you! Might I suggest you get a twitter account so that people can stay tuned to the latest news and videos, as well as share their excitement in watching your reviews.
Project Farm, THANK YOU! THANK YOU FOR THE UNSEEN LABOR,NOT ONLY WITH ALL THE TESTING AND COSTS RELATED TO TESTING,I CANT IMAGINE THE TIME THAT GOES INTO FILMING AND EDITING AS WELL! THANKS FOR MAKING ALL OF THIS INFORMATION FREE TO ANYONE THAT WISHES TO TUNE IN ! MY ONLY REGRET IS BEING ON A FIXED INCOME AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HELP FUND THE PROJECTS THAT YOU PRODUCE. YOU'RE PROVIDING GREAT INFORMATION, THAT CAN NOT ONLY SHOW REAL RESULTS BUT HELP VIEWERS SAVE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES TOO.HERE'S TO MANY MANY HAPPY,HEALTHY YEARS TO COME!! TY TY TY!!
Seeing this makes me want to see Project Farm's version of testing various joinery methods. M&T, Dowels, half lap, etc. All using the strongest glue from this test of course.
Very good test overall, although I question the value of the endgrain to endgrain tests since that results in dry joint (you can see that happened in the results) and most woodworkers wouldn't attempt that joint. The sheer test data does seem to support the prior testing and is more real world friendly.
@@iamjimgroth correct, I made this point the other day in a spark plug fuel efficiency video. People seem to not understand statistical significance, In that particular video their wasn't one. Accuracy of measuring devices were the issue in that video. Running "full" tanks of gas with different plugs. There was a variance of 35 seconds max between plugs, if we assume 1 gal per hour, convert to ml then divide by 60 twice we see that 1 second runtime is 1mL of fuel. So 30mL gives 30 second variance, my conclusion was the test was moot, unless he's measuring fuel with a weigh scale after drying the tank fully. He would have to weigh the samples to the hundredths and not lose any to evaporation during testing. Air temp, tank temp, head temp would all play factors. There's are reason testing is done in climate controlled environment a with incredibly precise instruments. Some of these videos prove nothing, others likely do provide results due to overcoming the error.
Titebond II is for things you will eventually have to take apart, like guitars. On something like this, you _want_ the glue to fail first, and even better if it can be attacked with steam to further reduce damage to the wood. Titebond III is for things you want to set and forget for the next 20 years, and aren't too concerned about the damage if it has to be disassembled. Though after this, I'd be inclined to use Elmer's Max interchangeably with Titebond III.
For musical instruments, use hot hide glue. It bonds quickly and holds well. It can be removed with little or no damage to the wood. It will probably fail if it gets wet, but ,if your violin gets wet, it's junk anyway.
Guitars get wet. They shouldn't, but the reality is that they do. Beers get poured on them at gigs. Sweat drips on them from performers under hot lights. And then there's a meme about playing guitar in the shower, or in swimming pools. I'd rather have the set neck glued in with Titebond II -- if and only if it has a glue failure or damage to justify fixing it. If it's good the way I get it, I'm leaving it that way no matter what the glue type is. If it fails, then maybe an upgrade was in order. Also, I wouldn't hesitate to use Titebond III on a truly permanent repair like a broken headstock. There's no reason to be taking that apart again.
Good point! Most of my experience has been with player pianos, which need to be torn down and rebuilt every 40 or 50 years. Hide glue makes it easier for the next guy to do the job. My only guitar fix was when a guy sat on my guitar and broke the neck off the body. (Alcohol might have been involved) I think I used Weldwood and a piece of 3/8 dowel. I'm not sure you could call that an "instrument" though. It cost me $30 at a pawn shop.
Another great test. As a master carpenter, Titebond has been my go to glue for decades when I don’t need the strength of construction adhesive. Flex products have never lived up to their hype, and I refuse to waste money on them.
This is like the 3rd or 4th time I’ve been planning on using some kind of product and PF puts up a test for it that steers me in the right direction. Great job again!!👍👍👍
I would like to see wood puttys be put to the test, in regards to resistance to cracking, shrinking, adhesion, sandability, etc. I just tried some jb-wood as it seemed better than most other wood puttys, but would like to know if it gets the PF seal of approval!
I can vouch for JB Wood. We had a large yellowjacket chew into a 4x4 post supporting our gazebo, followed by a woodpecker hammering away to get the yellowjacket. JB Wood did the trick... it is lightweight, doesn't shrink, dries very hard, and sands very well. After five years, it has worked like a charm in fllling the huge hole (damage) on the 4x4 post. It has also worked well on an old dining room chair where the caster wheel broke out... and that has been at least two years now.
I used some of that cheap powder mix stuff recently on a little repair and it was rock solid when cured. Kinda like hot mix joint compound, but for wood.
Gotta say. This is some of the best straight forward quality content on youtube. I really love the way you test the product you choose. Keep it up mate. Just awesome!!
if you see it advertised...dont buy it...good quality sells itself ...as a contractor it makes me deeply angry that companies like "Thompsons water seal" sells garbage that damages peoples homes ...that product is just paraffin wax and petroleum
Thanks for doing this video on these wood glue, on the island that I'm I haven't able to get Elmer's Max, I have been using Tite bond original, and tite bond 2, my appreciation again Sir, for your time and efforts.
L798pipeliner I agree! I just found myself buying Bosch windshield wipers because of his reviews. I love watching these videos. I am one that is always trying to save a buck but trying to buy the best quality at the same time. These videos speak my language.
@@NiNjaTurtLe697 My recommendation is watch his videos and take notes on the products that impact you the most. That way you don't forget and when the time comes to purchase you don't have to rewatch the videos like me :D
I can tell you from personal experience with this stuff that Titebond 3 is indeed one of the best. I don't do a lot of gluing end grain to end grain, but I have made quite a few hardwood tables with Titebond 3, and when I trim the tops down to size, I've tested the joints by breaking the parts I trimmed off.. They almost always break at the wood and not the glue (The joint is stronger then the wood itself).. AND,, it's safe for items that will be used around food. (According to the label) The better you force the glue into the grain, the better the bond, but not so much you push all the glue out out of the joint.. around 100 lbs of pressure usually gives a good bond. I think if you had tested grain to grain, you would have seen more wood failure than glue failure. BUT.. I do enjoy these videos.. Keep it up! Very informative. :) Something I've been pondering for a while, but haven't tested.. Biscuit jointed wood vs dowel jointed.. Which is stronger.. I think both are very good joints and offer lots of strength.. but...
You just renewed my confidence in Elmers Glue. I almost want to toss out my Gorilla Glue for not being as good as it could be. Elmer’s has always made great glue. That part never changed., Now I have a much stronger belief in it thanks to these tests.
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As a woodworker, I cringe when I see you gluing end grain to end grain, or even end grain to face grain. Every single woodworking application that has an end grain joint will have some other means of mechanical or integrated reinforcement. End grain wood soaks up glue and doesn't give the best bond. I'd love to see side grain to side grain or face grain to face grain testing. However, kudos to the consistency in testing and I think this still provides great information.
He was already stressing his equipment with end grain testing, so I think it was a great way to test these glues relative to each other when they are at a disadvantage. I get where you and other commentators are saying that you would love to see it tested this way, but it will just make the numbers bigger and won't really change the relative test results too much.
@@The_Fat_Turtle I think doing face grain would give more repeatable results. It's hard to know how much the end grain is going to wick the glue away from each individual joint.
I thought the same thing. However, stressing either a side to side grain or face to face grain glue up would probably just result in the wood breaking somewhere else besides the glue line.
As a bee keeper tite bond II and III have always been our go to glues for bee hives which are exposed to the weather year around but after this video I may have to try that Elmer’s max. When I run out the tite bond that is. Also my experience has been that the gorilla glue clear is much better then the original and it works better for bonding different types of materials together. I use it when I put a new handle in a tool or when a handle gets loose. Works great for that. Great video once again.
Great test idea! I'm actually working on that video now. It's one of those "long lead time" projects that takes around 6 months of daily exposure to a chemical rusting product.
I realize it's too late for this one, but what about a comparison of an industrial grade product such as DPAC 505 Anti-sieze vs what we Joes can buy at a hardware store. I think that'd be interesting to see.
Thanks for requesting this one and please let me know if there are other brands you'd like tested in the future. Here are the brands tested. Thanks again, Todd
Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order):
Titebond Original: amzn.to/2QhkJ2O
Titebond II: amzn.to/2QdqYoe
Titebond III: amzn.to/2QezTpB
Elmer's Wood Glue Max: amzn.to/3gk0sUT
Elmer's Craft Glue: amzn.to/32ey5T1
Elmer's Original Wood Glue: amzn.to/3aMhLwF
Gorilla Wood Glue: amzn.to/3hkLdfU
Flex Glue: amzn.to/3l1vtkd
There is an ad on here for a product called Bondic, a u.v. Activated bonding plastic weld glue, it claims to be 50 times stronger bond than anything on the market.. LETS TEST THAT!
How about a review of driveway sealing products?
I would have loved to see liquid nail in with this lineup
I would have liked to see Liquid Nailz, Liquid Nailz Heavy Duty, and Locktite adhesive tested also. It'd be nice to see how they fair against the glues & It'd be great to see if they perform as good as [or better] than the Flex-Seal/glue that was used in this video.
Thanks & thumbs-up 👍😎👍
@@jr1001jr I found where he done a test of construction adhesive. Pretty disappointed in liquid nail now lol
I am a professional carpenter and so I have to add: Titebond smells the best, but Elmers Craft glue tastes the best ;)
Taste is all that matters when the afternoon tummy rumblings come around
Elmers glue taste better with cereal - Ralph Wiggum
Why in the fuck u tasting mfkn woodglue
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Did you do the inhaling taste as well?
I know I've said it before, but I'll never stop being amazed by the incredible amount of work you put into your videos to help others make the right buying decisions. Thank you!
Thank you very much for the positive feedback! I feel the same way about the amazing videos on your channel. Thanks again!
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I couldn’t agree more. He’s an exceptional gift to our world.
I wholeheartedly agree. Project Farm is the BEST!!! Great job on your videos!!
I’m a 16 year old girl, who does very little woodworking/construction related but I thoroughly enjoy these videos. I really appreciate the amount of time and professionalism you put into these. Keep it up.
Thank you very much!
I have a 4 letter word starting and ending with 't' but I can't remember what it was or why it's in my mind,...
AlucardPawpad ClownWorld this comment have nothing to do with the subject and I love it
As a chemical engineer who worked with the formulators and chemists at Franklin International(makers of Titebond), they use the best materials on the market and their R/D is up there with other Fortune 500 companies I worked with. Glad to see it holds up in the field haha I need some for a shop table
Thanks for sharing.
Bill Banksey (I think that's how you spell his last name)
Bill was one of, if not, the lead chemist at Franklin.
If I ever had a question posed by an "anal retentive woodworker" about the chemical componentry or science about adhesives - Bill would let me call him at Franklin and I'd pass the phone to the customer.
Bill would keep the guy on the phone going through "the science" all right 😅. Over my 20 year career in the industry Bill and the company he worked for are the clear winners and always will be.
For some reason Titebond and Elmer’s are from the same town.
Pretty sure most of these wood glues would be stronger than the wood with a proper glue joint.
Unfortunately this youtuber didn't test any proper glue joints... wood glue is only stronger than wood on long grain joints. End grain joints or cross grain joints require jointery. In the form of a mortise and tennon, dowels, a domino jointer, etc.
@@brandonhoffman4712 I agree, I would never glue a telephone pole buy it's end grain and expect ultimate performance lol Good test otherwise though
“Compressed air did a great job removing saw dust” which brand of air?
this had me laughing
Funny as hell, i demand a showdown!!
Let's test this! LMAO
I believe he went with "mountain breeze" but we all know that basically every brand of air you can buy is just rebranded Nestle air
Today we’ll be testing air from various locations in the USA and see how effective they are in removing saw dust.
Next week:
Does Chinese air clear up your saw dust better than American air.
I just realized how perfect this channel is. You are the People’s Champion. Doing all the tests so we don’t have to. It’s saving money and also encourages companies to up their game in certain areas. It’s entertaining, informative and educational. Thanks!
Glad to hear!
i don't buy shit now without hitting PF to see if he tested it. i bought a new weed whacker recently and the 1st thing i did was respool it with line he tested. the weedwacker works great and the line he tested, max power twisted i barely use any when trimming my yard.
He is an asset to the free market and an enemy to peddlers!
You make underwriters laboratory look like a small company great video!
This morning I received a delivery from Amazon with Vibratite thread lock, Evaporust, and JB Weld epoxy, all products you’ve tested to which my wife replied “I’m going to write to that farm guy you’ve been watching and ask him to block you from watching his videos”. ☹️. When I showed her the glue test results she responded in relief saying “thank goodness” knowing that I’ve been using Titebond II for over 30 yrs and Titebond III since it was released and always have a gallon of each in the workshop. Many years ago I was using the more expensive and messy West System epoxy for exterior work until Titebond II and III was released. I’ll use Titebond II because it sets faster and reduces my clamping time. Keep up the good work and please ignore any comments from my well meaning wife.
lol. Thank you very much! Titebond II is an A+++ product!
Heck, just do what I did and get rid of the wife, problem solved! 😊 😉
Just kidding...... I don't have a wife!
@@BruceLortzHI damn Bruce, your a genius!
Sounds just like my wife.😂
I've used Titebond III for all my cutting boards for 15 years now without a single failure. Many of my customers (and my wife) have warped them by nearly an inch over 19 inches by letting them soak in water and all have come back after drying out. I'm not switching. Thanks for the affirmation!
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
As a cabinet installer and finish carpenter, I really appreciate this test.
We use Titebond II. I'm honestly shocked by the strength of all these glues.
No kidding, the Elmar’s craft glue was the biggest surprise in how well it performed. Also, was glad to see what a waste of money flex glue was, highest price, worst performer.
@@jamesl9686 yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not intended for this application at all, but good to see
@@SnowManson Yeah, I think all the Flex branded products are junk. I picked up a can of the black Flex Seal when it was only available from mail order just to try it. Yeah, absolute garbage. It didn't even stick onto wood for 6 months before most of it just weathered away .
@@jamesl9686 Their Flex Seal spray is crap as well. Tested some at my house and it didn't last 6 months in the weather.
Kevin Snow marketing the Flex brand does a lot of marketing I laugh at it but others will buy it.
Here’s an idea, the best product to remove limescale since most people don’t have a water softener.
Keep up the great work buddy, the world needs more people like you.
Thank you for the video idea!
Vinegar
@@JoePJack1 Lemon juice and vinegar. :)
See you on the other side. 0u9i80
@Wroger Wroger oh i always appreciate a dad joke.
I love the amount of effort PF puts into these tests. I'm always impressed with the ingenuity of the test setups!
Thank you very much!
Same! Its amazing!
You consistently have the best comparison reviews. I don't know how you find the time. I get tired just watching all the testing and research you do! Thank you.
Thanks!
Since I started watching your videos, my Home Depot shopping list has changed dramatically.
Thank you. 👍
Nice! Thank you
I'm blown away of how well most of these glues performed. I had no idea that wood glue would be able to handle weights in the range of thousands of pounds/kilograms! Impressive. Amazing video as always.
Thank you very much! Very impressive strength for sure
So I just went to Home Depot to buy wood glue feeling uneasy there wasn't a Project Farm video on which wood glue is best. Came home with Titebond 3 and wouldn't you know it Project Farm made a video about wood glue. Kinda weird feeling but I'm excited that I chose the second best product. Actually my wife did lol. Thanks for your videos, they mean a lot to me!
Nice! Great selection with Titebond 3
Well, you two must have a "titebond". Haha
@@Jeff-sc1df 😂😂😂
@@Jeff-sc1df you win!
@@Jeff-sc1df I hope their song is "Stuck on You" by Lionel Richie. 😂
Another nice thing about Tibebond 3 is the longer open time, for more complex glue ups, and the fact you can use it in lower temp situations, like a cold shop. Nice test.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
You took the words right out of my mouth! You failed to mention that clamping time is only about 45 minutes.
This is actually the most important aspect to me as I live in Arizona where its hot and dry. Some days it is near impossible to spread out the glue one two small board edges and get them mated together before the glue starts to skin over. That is why I use TB3. However, this testing was interesting and I'm glad to see it is also the strongest (although pretty much any glue is strong enough for woodworking).
I also like that Titebond doesn't glue the cap shut after the first use, unlike Elmer's
Titebond 3 is pretty much all I use. I've heard too many horror stories about people's furniture falling apart due to flooding or fire srinklers... Plus my woodwork often ventures outside, making planters right now.
The fact that this channel comments and likes it’s fans comments warms my heart
Thank you very much!
My dad built houses for years and used Elmer's wood glue on the subfloor. On the house he was building for himself the backhoe operator put too much dirt instead of gravel and blew out the foundation while I was on the house. The glue held the floor together very well, it made me a believer in Elmer's glue. That was 35 years ago and I'm still here to talk about it.
Wow! Glad the glue held!
I always say this: Most useful youtube channel! No bias, just good old testing and laying down the FaCTS. Thank you!
Thank you very much!
If only one single politician were as fair, diligent, hard worker and crystal clear explaining the way you do. You are making the world a better place. Please, never stop.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate these tests. Nothing like an unbiased real world test to prove a products worth. Keep em' coming!
Thank you!
Project farm in a nutshell
I'll spend thousands to save you a dollar
Thank you Sir!
Thank you!! I'm definitely trying hard to help bring valuable videos to those that watch the channel to help save them time and money.
@@ProjectFarm It definitely shows!
@@ProjectFarm we highly appreciate them as well.....true testing similar to what consumer reports used to be. Looking forward to new ones!
Thanks for your video, I watch all of them and have saved money. Keep up the great work!
very accurate
as a woodworker i was especially interested in this one....good to know i’m not wasting money on titebond 3.
as usual, hanks for taking the time to do this test and making the video.
It's a great product! Thank you
Project Farm: titebond 3 really is a great product because it tends to hold up outdoors, where glues that are not designed for exterior break down and ruin projects. so you spend a couple bucks more but you’re guaranteed a proper bond that stays, and your not having to rebuild, redo, or repair. it’s aggravating and a waste of time.
i’d rather spend this limited time on this planet doing something that brings joy.
i’ll spend the extra bucks all day long.
i bet your life on that farm, even thou a lot of work, is a real treat to wake up to.
life, joy, and wood glue in the same comment.
Gorilla glue also works great as hair gel. So it should get bonus points for that.
lol... yeah, that worked out well.
Yeah forsure. I do use that sometimes as well
ROFLMAO!!! Good one!!!
Is that why so many carpenters are bald?
Only the aerosol though!
I want to say this channel is not just a channel. You offer amazing value and a public service.
The ability to see products and decide what you want is invaluable.
Thank you so much.
You are welcome!
I have to admit, the Elmer's Craft Glue impressed me the most.
Surprisingly strong for a craft glue!
Indeed, it punched well above its weight class.
Indeed! Good to know your macaroni artwork won't come apart.
It would be great if you had a document with a "Project Farm" seal of approval. It would be super convenient to have a reference to check quickly while at the hardware store. Love the channel, thanks for the amazing videos!
Doug K, agreed
Yes!
A compilation videos of the things covered so far that links to the old ones. Really would be a good idea, since some comments ask things that were covered in older videos.
Yes! That's a no brainer man! You could sell the list for $5. another revenue stream for you and reliable go to source for us!
I agree, it would be like the "UL" approved symbol. Company's must pay for the testing and rating
This was a really great test - confirmed some of my suspicions about the strength of various wood glues. However, as an idea for a followup video... All of the glue joints tested in this video involved glue on end grain. This is a woodworking no-no (but we all do it, sometimes). When we apply glue to end grain, we never get the strongest joints. Conventional wisdom says it is because the end grain wicks most of the moisture out of the glue before it can properly cure - thus making the glue itself weaker than the wood it adheres to. I'm not sure if that is the reason, but end-grain joints are definitely weaker.
Now that you've established which glues are stronger than than others, it would be really fun re-run the experiments with edge-grain to edge-grain joints. According to the claims of most wood glue manufacturers, the wood should fail before the glue does. It would be interesting to see how true that statement is. It would also be interesting to find out just how much stronger ideal woodworking joints are.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
If the wood fails first, you aren't learning the strength of the glue - you are learning the strength of the wood.
@@ThinkOfMeFondly If the wood fails first, you're using a good enough glue. :)
@@SteveMasonCanada that is very much true
@@ThinkOfMeFondly End grain to end grain, use PL3K or a lap joint.
I used to work in test and evaluation in a missile guidance lab, and I have to tell you that you do a great job with your test methodology. Thanks for taking the time and going to the trouble of designing repeatable test set-ups. Also, Titebond II is what a lot of folks (including myself) use to repair guitar necks and headstocks. Good to see a test that confirms it's a good choice!
Thank you very much! Great feedback on Titebond. It's a great product!
@Mycel I bought some hide glue once but I've never been able to find it.
Are you an importer/exporter of these repaired guitar necks?
@@BZABuddy In between architecture gigs.
Oh boy, I'm Glued to this episode. I hope others stick around.
lol. Nice!
@@ProjectFarm He really applied that one didnt he?
booooooooooo
oh man, that joke is tacky
Ouch that was bad. Ha!!!!
When I inquired about the wood glue test, I didn't think you'd do it in less than a week!!! Thanks for doing it. Now I know which one to use to glue my precious Duck walking cane.
I have spent 20-30 minutes in the wood glue section at the hardware store, andd left more confused. Thank you for laying it out so clearly.
I'm even more impressed with these glues considering all of your tests involved end-grain glue-ups, which are by far the weakest glue joint possible. I'm not sure your test rig could have handled some of these with two faces glued together!
It would be impossible to get good test results without using endgrains. turn the pieces side to side and the test piezes will fail before the glue with any old regular woodglue.
Both of these comments are very important! I was upset that he was gluing endgrain at first, then I thought about where the failure would be if he didn't.
Renax the Many, you are right. In prep for this video, I did some testing and it became a "strongest board" showdown using long grain. The test rig will handle up to 10,000 pounds without a problem.
@@ProjectFarm Would have been worth mentioning in the video, but it's in the comments at least.
Good data for the test is that by gluing the end grain, the glue will have a chance to wick into the grain. Even more so because he used pine. The TBIII should lead the pack in that test since it is the runniest of the bunch. What still amazes me is how strong the joints can still be even with poor fit up (in my experience).
Am I the only one that's amazed that wood glue can hold almost 1000kg in every scenario? That's insane
Thanks for watching.
Have you watched the hot glue video yet? That was the biggest eye opener yet.
I am amazed at how good simple white glue was.
When I'm at HD, I always pull up RUclips to see if you've done an episode on a particular product type. Keep 'em coming! :)
Thank you for the feedback
*100%* I've actually *left the store* due to poor reception in order to see if PF has a video just to head back in and purchase what I need. He's an absolute champion.
I’d love a revisit of this. I feel like both the formulations, and your testing (ideas and equipment), have improved.
I watch all of your videos before I purchase anything. Sometimes it even removes “brand loyalty”.
Thank you for being you.
Love to see a polyurethane based “construction adhesive” thrown into the mix.
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
I was half expecting to see you test how the lawn mower engine ran on each glue. >:)
lol. I should have done that! A briggs would probably purr like a kitten on wood glue
😅😉😎
Today we're going to compare Amazon Synthetic Oil vs Titebond 3.
I just used Titebond III on a table I built, and was extremely impressed. Granted, the only way it'll ever see 5,000 pounds is if my SIL sits on it.
Juice556 assuming you’ve used at least halflap joint, it’s going to be very strong
Great product!
Juice556 , 😂🤣😂
Savage
Just leave the screw in it. It’ll be fine.
So much for using wood glue to repair utility poles.
As a former lineman, I'm kinda sad about that! :)
Elmers craft glue would be an improvement over some of the repairs I’ve seen Verizon do.
But woodglue and screws seems more practical. Most likely you wouldn't remove the screws in that situation
you don't glue endgrain to endgrain if you can avoid it.
The chainsaw left a very rough surface. Using a guide and a very sharp carbide router bit could have made them smooth and flat to .002 in.
It's people like you that help develop enjoyable lives. When I started out wood carving as a teenager, I did so with the intent of making something nice for my grandmother. A small crude figurine of an angel, but in her will, she wished to be buried with it. After that, I started livestreaming Dremel projects, and then became a furniture maker, specializing in desks. Because of my dad died before he could teach me more about carpentry, I had to RUclips a lot of specifics like voltage differences in power tools, grit on sandpaper, effectiveness of wood glue, etc so the least I could do is take one minute to write out this comment for what clearly took you a long time to do, just to help us out.
Thanks!
I'm just amazed that end grain joints are even holding up at all
Great point. Nearly 6,000 pounds is pretty impressive!
My thoughts exactly, That is why we use spines and mechanical fasteners but hell now I'm wondering if it's even worth it lol
End-grain joints have a bad reputation, but wood is wood and glue is glue. The joint failures are often caused by ignoring wood movement when fastening end grain to edge grain, letting the end grain soak up all the glue so there's little left in the actual joint, or an incorrect assumption that an edge grain and end grain joint failure would look the same.
@@TheSnekkerShow The " bad reputation" to end-grain to end-grain is will deserve exactly for its ability to suck up the glue which is why industries spend millions of dollars on machines that create finger joints for end-grain glue-up, like you said wood is wood and glue is glue but is not always equal. here an interesting clip of such a machine in action, ruclips.net/video/nZv6EWA_hgc/видео.html
When doing endgrain glue-ups, I like to 'pre-treat' the wood with some water thinned PVA (Titebond, Elmers, etc) glue to seal up the ends so when I actually glue them together, the glue isn't soaked up by the wood and out of the joint. I haven't done any destructive tests such as the ones done here, but anecdotally, the glue joints seem to be much more reliable. I usually use the 'belt and suspenders' technique of zipping a fastener of some sort into them too, if possible.
"Elmers just about DESTROYED my crane scale!"
[Patches chain with duct tape before proceeding....]
lol. Thank you!
When the black duct tape comes out, you know he's not playin' around anymore.
😁😁😁
Luckily we already know which duct tape is the best for the job. 😎
I thought all he was doing was covering the gap in the hook so that the scale would be far less inclined to fly off when it pops.
I did my own little test recently. I used Titebond 3 to edge glue two pieces of 1/8 " hardwood together. I didn't think that 1/8 gave me enough surface area but after the glue was dried I bent the wood parallel to the glue joint. The wood broke but not at the joint. Great stuff!
Thanks for sharing.
Tite Bond is the best out there for wood projects. The best furniture makers strictly use it.
I appreciate the existence of your channel to no end. Thank you for putting so much passion and effort into your tests!
Thank you very much! The positive feedback keeps me going!
I was going through gallons of the Titebond 2 and when the 3 came out I switched to it.
Have never had any one complain about glue failure even when pushing it far past what it should have ! Sets fast and sets strong!
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Great product! Thank you
What were you making with it?
@@TheFreeBass
Furniture
you are truly a SAINT. I can not understate how much i appreciate how fair, scientifically consistent, and clearly stated these videos are
Thanks so much!
I was really surprised how well the Elmer's glue did. I always considered them a "kids" glue because we used Elmer's glue in grade school.
One of the interesting things about this test is that all these were end grain joints, which is the weakest way to glue wood. I would love to see a similar test comparing different connection methods. Glued, pocket screws, dry mortise and tenon and glued mortise and tenon.
Thanks for the suggestion.
We did a bunch of different joints in a woodshop experiment over 50 years ago. On any of the joints done properly, and no end to end joints, the wood failed before any of the glues did, including regular old Elmer's. We didn't do any wet testing. The teacher wanted to show us that if we put stuff together correctly, it was strong as hell.
Great to see this episode. I was one of the ones that recommended testing carpenter glues. As always, great work!
Thank you for recommending this one!
Perfect timing. I am about to build a few barn doors and need to go get wood glue tomorrow. Thanks man!
Nice! I hope the build goes smoothly!
I've been using Titebond 3 for 8 years in my woodworking business. It's very good stuff.
@You Wish Yes! I built a desk one time and forgot to square the base of it before attaching the top and 20 minutes later I realised my mistake and thought it would be easy to take the top off and square the base. I took the screws out and could not get the top off. I used a block and hammer and it would not break loose. I gave up because I didn't want to damage the top trying to get it off. It was only out of square less than a quarter inch and was only noticeable from the back so I didn't mind it too much. I learned that day just how good it can hold.
I suspect pro bond is similar to Elmer’s max. I’ve been hooked on pro bond since it came out
Love everything about this channel, from the quality of the testing to the editing it’s perfect. Would love to see some testing on different brands of ratchet/socket sets if you’re looking to test some tools. Thank you for all the content you put up mate 👌🏻
Thank you very much! Great video idea too!
AvE has done a bit of that, but not as a comparison of different brands. But he does pr a good bit of attention into the methodology.
Thank you so much for your time and effort testing these wood glues. Very helpful for my project. Cheers!
Glad it was helpful!
I love how this guy’s voice sounds like an announcer/commentator throughout the video, it’s a nice thing to hear from the older videos. A little flavor text never hurt anyone
Thank you
Project Farm you’re very welcome(: keep it up you’re doing amazing
I like how he throws in the flex bond products. All test I've seen has shown that they are overpriced low quality products like most as seen on tv products but people still buy them. Amazing what television "programming" will do.
Amen brother
People are dumb
@Dennis Young Never heard of their products??? You must NEVER watch ANY television then...
Tim Baumann Or not be from tbe US
@Richard Vaughn its overpriced. Get you some eternabond tape. It is pricey but it's the best self sealing tape there is. Also the zip tape from lowes is 25 bucks for a 90 foot roll and it's better than flex tape. It's made for the zip boards but you can use it for anything. Very uv resistant
Last a long time too. Eternabond has been on my camper roof for 6 years and still plyable and stuck down
Thank you for taking the time to do such diligent work on testing, analysing and especially editing this video to such a compact package.
You are brilliant and conduct the most in-depth research testing of anyone on the planet. Absolutely the best! I followed you for YEARS and I hope you NEVER die!!!
Thanks so much!
As a wood worker, I wanted to thank you for the expense and the trouble you go to for these video clips. Cheers from Sydney Australia!
I'd be interested to see how these glues perform against construction adhesive.
John Heisz, for example, is notorious for using construction adhesive in place of glue.
Great suggestion! Thank you
He tested that already. The PL 8X tested the best, but I can't remember the numbers. Search his channel, he tested them a few months back.
You can make a lot of assumptions from the construction adhesive video PF did previously. If I'm gluing wood to wood, I'll reach for wood glue.
@@AnomadAlaska that's great for projects, but for construction applications, construction adhesive is a must. Not only is it an adhesive, but it also fills in voids and imperfections in the lumber - which is why it works so well for floor sheathing and stair treads.
My experience with construction adhesive is that they dry out and do not hold after a few years
I have been watching your videos for as long as you have been making them. I love them. Thank you so very much. You are putting in a crap ton of work and I want you to know that you are the first place I look when I am planning on buying anything. Truly the best.
Thank you, thank you, oh and thank you.
Thank you very much!
7:29 The fact that you tested 3 samples is perfect!
Thanks!
Love your testing videos, but there is a slight issue with this one - gluing to end-grain always results in a poor joint. The porous nature of the end-grain soaks up the glue and tends to give a dry joint. Ideally, for bond testing it should be face grain to face grain. Anyway, keep up the great work - love the vids.
Thank you for the constructive feedback
@Lewis yes true but all the poor joints were tested equally.
@@ProjectFarm Yep, definitely. In woodworking, when you can't avoid gluing end-grain, you go to great lengths to pre-soak the end-grain by applying glue, letting it wick in and partially cure, and then repeating as many times as it takes to have it stop wicking in, and only then put the joint together. When you're gluing long-grain to long-grain, none of that is necessary and nearly every adequately-clamped joint will fail at the wood, not at the glue.
That being said, though, I think maybe that's a good argument for doing the test exactly as you did it. Had you glued a bunch of boards long-grain to long-grain and performed the same tests, you would have essentially (probably) been testing not the relative strength of the glue, but the relative strengths of each wood sample.
Lewis Taylor. Correct but with a correct bond, the timber would break before the glue so the test would end up being a wood strength test. I think that making a weaker joint is possibly better for consistency.
@@Peter-976 Agreed that is a valid point - it was like-for-like testing and so certainly has some validity and some useful information. However, due to the glue uptake of the end grain and variable nature of wood and the viscosity of the glues, you could end up with an extra uncontrolled variable which could influence the performance of the glue.
I was using Gorilla because of its foaming ability but when I ran out in the middle of project I went back to Tightbond, I had laying, and found it did perform better as your tests show. Thanks
Thank you for the feedback
mark marcinik Are you referring to Gorilla Glue's polyurethane glue? That product does foam and expand when curing. But, I believe the Gorilla Glue product tested here is their "regular" woodworking glue. I would have actually loved to have seen a couple of the polyurethane woodworking glues tested here to see how they compared. My experience with polyurethane glues (which requires pre-moistening of the bonding surfaces to aid curing) is that they create a very robust bond that is totally waterproof.
@@SignorLuigi yeah my thoughts exactly
Testing reports I've seen have found the foaming nature of the glue is good for filling cracks but doesn't add much strength to the joint.
Bunny Warren : I agreed about the ultimate strength but they are must -wear- gloves sticky compared to water watery Elmers and sometimes that is an advantage .
I’m so amazed at how much time you out in to this content.
Thank you very much!
I’ve been using Elmers all purpose glue and Wood glue or ever since the 70s I remember working in the furniture factory and they used the furniture glue on all the wood pieces! So I guess it was a good glue the sofas are still standing!
Recommendation: wood glues and fillers and how well they sand and take a stain. And spread / fill
Thank you for the video idea!
I've been a cabinet maker for 30 years and have never found a wood glue that will take stain. For wood putty , I use Famowood.
@@cabbyhubbyI have had pretty good success just mixing the saw dust from that particular wood species (pile from under the table saw with titebond 1 or 2 or others (not titebond 3, nothing sticks to it like paint or stain). My homemade wood filler will stain darkest though because of the absorbtion with the saw dust. I have stopped using wood fillers because of waste when storing it.
It amazes me that glue can hold these types of forces.
Thank you for the feedback
Have you seen construction adhesive? Even cars are being glued together.
And wood glue is not ment to use on endgrain so when used normally its even stronger
@@johnwayne2103 My father works at a sheet metal/construction company. They use something called Lord Glue (metal only) but it's apparently stronger than welding.
I'm amazed to see such varying results within each particular brand, when you can see how much care went into minimizing this...
I was also suprised by that. I would love to know what caused these inconsistencies. Aside from flex glue which was very consistently bad.
Thank you for the feedback
Seems the wood grain had a significant affect on the strength of the bond. The boards with tighter wood grain had significantly stronger bonds than those without. I don’t know how you take that into account when making multiple test pieces for each product. But I still enjoyed this video.
That was a great test. THANK YOU , Keep new test coming. I am addicted .
Thanks, will do!
This video taught me that I find numbers going up and things popping incredibly satisfying.
Thank you!
Check out the hydraulic press channel
Can I just say that Project Farm is by far my favorite RUclips channel. I'm at a point to where I will not buy anything until I see his unbiased reviews, whether its batteries, oil, or glue. I come here for not only the reviews of comments, but for the content itself. Project Farm, I know you say you read all comments so I would just like to say my hat is off to you, and I want to thank you for the time you put into these videos. In the world of weeds that is RUclips, Its nice to know that there is still people out there like you that still make great quality, amazing videos. Thank you! Might I suggest you get a twitter account so that people can stay tuned to the latest news and videos, as well as share their excitement in watching your reviews.
Thank you very much!
My recommendation: Keep up the good work! I like how you not sponsored! You give the most honest view,of the products you test.
I find your testing procedures ,fair and actuate.
Thank you very much!
Project Farm,
THANK YOU!
THANK YOU FOR THE UNSEEN LABOR,NOT ONLY WITH ALL THE TESTING AND COSTS RELATED TO TESTING,I CANT IMAGINE THE TIME THAT GOES INTO FILMING AND EDITING AS WELL!
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Flex glue: We can claim anything we want to sell our products
Also Flex Glue: Oh Damn. Project Farm is testing our products again 😱😱😱
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Jason82 he tested it in 24 hours of curing, it takes 7 full days to properly cure.
Flex Glue is not supposed to be a wood glue. I expect it would be much better with nonporous materials.
the only thing flex glue is better is it is easier to apply.
Seeing this makes me want to see Project Farm's version of testing various joinery methods. M&T, Dowels, half lap, etc. All using the strongest glue from this test of course.
Thanks for the video idea.
Fine Woodworking did that test, somewhere around 2012-214 season, very interesting, cant remember any results though ;)
I asked to test woodglue a while ago, and you replied
Waited ever since, but damnnnnn! Never been so excited for a vid of yours!
Thank you very much!
Respect for the amount of effort (the custom jig you welded) and time you put into testing all these glues, thank you!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Very good test overall, although I question the value of the endgrain to endgrain tests since that results in dry joint (you can see that happened in the results) and most woodworkers wouldn't attempt that joint. The sheer test data does seem to support the prior testing and is more real world friendly.
Thanks so much!
They are all being given the same test…it’s relative….
I swear this man would get 1st place every time at the science fair
lol. Thank you
I don’t know man, I have a pretty sick volcano.
Meh, the videos are clearly useful to get some comparison between products but they're not very scientific.
Hez the man !
@@iamjimgroth correct, I made this point the other day in a spark plug fuel efficiency video. People seem to not understand statistical significance, In that particular video their wasn't one. Accuracy of measuring devices were the issue in that video. Running "full" tanks of gas with different plugs. There was a variance of 35 seconds max between plugs, if we assume 1 gal per hour, convert to ml then divide by 60 twice we see that 1 second runtime is 1mL of fuel. So 30mL gives 30 second variance, my conclusion was the test was moot, unless he's measuring fuel with a weigh scale after drying the tank fully. He would have to weigh the samples to the hundredths and not lose any to evaporation during testing. Air temp, tank temp, head temp would all play factors. There's are reason testing is done in climate controlled environment a with incredibly precise instruments. Some of these videos prove nothing, others likely do provide results due to overcoming the error.
Titebond II is for things you will eventually have to take apart, like guitars. On something like this, you _want_ the glue to fail first, and even better if it can be attacked with steam to further reduce damage to the wood.
Titebond III is for things you want to set and forget for the next 20 years, and aren't too concerned about the damage if it has to be disassembled. Though after this, I'd be inclined to use Elmer's Max interchangeably with Titebond III.
Thank you for the feedback
I never thought of it that way. I always figured permanence was the goal.
For musical instruments, use hot hide glue. It bonds quickly and holds well. It can be removed with little or no damage to the wood. It will probably fail if it gets wet, but ,if your violin gets wet, it's junk anyway.
Guitars get wet. They shouldn't, but the reality is that they do. Beers get poured on them at gigs. Sweat drips on them from performers under hot lights. And then there's a meme about playing guitar in the shower, or in swimming pools. I'd rather have the set neck glued in with Titebond II -- if and only if it has a glue failure or damage to justify fixing it. If it's good the way I get it, I'm leaving it that way no matter what the glue type is. If it fails, then maybe an upgrade was in order.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to use Titebond III on a truly permanent repair like a broken headstock. There's no reason to be taking that apart again.
Good point! Most of my experience has been with player pianos, which need to be torn down and rebuilt every 40 or 50 years. Hide glue makes it easier for the next guy to do the job.
My only guitar fix was when a guy sat on my guitar and broke the neck off the body. (Alcohol might have been involved) I think I used Weldwood and a piece of 3/8 dowel. I'm not sure you could call that an "instrument" though. It cost me $30 at a pawn shop.
Another great test. As a master carpenter, Titebond has been my go to glue for decades when I don’t need the strength of construction adhesive. Flex products have never lived up to their hype, and I refuse to waste money on them.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
This is like the 3rd or 4th time I’ve been planning on using some kind of product and PF puts up a test for it that steers me in the right direction. Great job again!!👍👍👍
Thank you very much!
I would like to see wood puttys be put to the test, in regards to resistance to cracking, shrinking, adhesion, sandability, etc. I just tried some jb-wood as it seemed better than most other wood puttys, but would like to know if it gets the PF seal of approval!
I can vouch for JB Wood. We had a large yellowjacket chew into a 4x4 post supporting our gazebo, followed by a woodpecker hammering away to get the yellowjacket. JB Wood did the trick... it is lightweight, doesn't shrink, dries very hard, and sands very well. After five years, it has worked like a charm in fllling the huge hole (damage) on the 4x4 post. It has also worked well on an old dining room chair where the caster wheel broke out... and that has been at least two years now.
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm don't forget to test the homemade wood putty (saw dust and wood glue.)
I used some of that cheap powder mix stuff recently on a little repair and it was rock solid when cured. Kinda like hot mix joint compound, but for wood.
Throw Durhams putty in there as well! Love that stuff.
Gotta say. This is some of the best straight forward quality content on youtube. I really love the way you test the product you choose. Keep it up mate. Just awesome!!
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You’re doing a great service to the people.
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if you see it advertised...dont buy it...good quality sells itself ...as a contractor it makes me deeply angry that companies like "Thompsons water seal" sells garbage that damages peoples homes ...that product is just paraffin wax and petroleum
Thanks for doing this video on these wood glue, on the island that I'm I haven't able to get Elmer's Max, I have been using Tite bond original, and tite bond 2, my appreciation again Sir, for your time and efforts.
I’ve found myself looking on project farms page before I make almost every purchase
Thank you!
L798pipeliner I agree! I just found myself buying Bosch windshield wipers because of his reviews. I love watching these videos. I am one that is always trying to save a buck but trying to buy the best quality at the same time. These videos speak my language.
@@jarinsmith2202 WHAT? He did one on wiper blades? Holey crap - nice!
@@NiNjaTurtLe697 My recommendation is watch his videos and take notes on the products that impact you the most. That way you don't forget and when the time comes to purchase you don't have to rewatch the videos like me :D
The AA battery test has changed my views on buying batteries!
I can tell you from personal experience with this stuff that Titebond 3 is indeed one of the best.
I don't do a lot of gluing end grain to end grain, but I have made quite a few hardwood tables with Titebond 3, and when I trim the tops down to size, I've tested the joints by breaking the parts I trimmed off.. They almost always break at the wood and not the glue (The joint is stronger then the wood itself).. AND,, it's safe for items that will be used around food. (According to the label) The better you force the glue into the grain, the better the bond, but not so much you push all the glue out out of the joint.. around 100 lbs of pressure usually gives a good bond.
I think if you had tested grain to grain, you would have seen more wood failure than glue failure.
BUT.. I do enjoy these videos.. Keep it up! Very informative. :)
Something I've been pondering for a while, but haven't tested.. Biscuit jointed wood vs dowel jointed.. Which is stronger.. I think both are very good joints and offer lots of strength.. but...
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video idea.
My favourite channel by far! Thanks for all you do.
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Project Farm to Consumer Reports: “Hold my beer” 🤣 I come for the tests and stay for the comments!
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@Dennis Young I'm sure he'd rather you just contribute to his patreon.
This is one of my favorite tests. I've watched it a couple times! Thanks for bringing the best test videos on youtube!
Thank you!
You just renewed my confidence in Elmers Glue. I almost want to toss out my Gorilla Glue for not being as good as it could be. Elmer’s has always made great glue. That part never changed., Now I have a much stronger belief in it thanks to these tests.
Let’s share this videos with are friends to help project farm to reach to 1 millions sub. Thank you for all the hard work and time you’ve put in this videos
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As a woodworker, I cringe when I see you gluing end grain to end grain, or even end grain to face grain. Every single woodworking application that has an end grain joint will have some other means of mechanical or integrated reinforcement. End grain wood soaks up glue and doesn't give the best bond. I'd love to see side grain to side grain or face grain to face grain testing.
However, kudos to the consistency in testing and I think this still provides great information.
He was already stressing his equipment with end grain testing, so I think it was a great way to test these glues relative to each other when they are at a disadvantage. I get where you and other commentators are saying that you would love to see it tested this way, but it will just make the numbers bigger and won't really change the relative test results too much.
@@The_Fat_Turtle I think doing face grain would give more repeatable results. It's hard to know how much the end grain is going to wick the glue away from each individual joint.
In side grain to side grain soft pine (and most other woods) - the wood would be weakest link for any brand of PVA glue.
I thought the same thing. However, stressing either a side to side grain or face to face grain glue up would probably just result in the wood breaking somewhere else besides the glue line.
He should redo this test
Been Waiting for this all my life !! 🤯
Thank you good buddy. Your latest video is simply amazing!
As a bee keeper tite bond II and III have always been our go to glues for bee hives which are exposed to the weather year around but after this video I may have to try that Elmer’s max. When I run out the tite bond that is. Also my experience has been that the gorilla glue clear is much better then the original and it works better for bonding different types of materials together. I use it when I put a new handle in a tool or when a handle gets loose. Works great for that. Great video once again.
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I’ve seen a lot of testing involving penetrating oils but you should test Antiseize compounds for preventing rust and corrosion buildup!!!
Great test idea! I'm actually working on that video now. It's one of those "long lead time" projects that takes around 6 months of daily exposure to a chemical rusting product.
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I realize it's too late for this one, but what about a comparison of an industrial grade product such as DPAC 505 Anti-sieze vs what we Joes can buy at a hardware store. I think that'd be interesting to see.
It would be interesting to figure out what causes all of the variation within each glue type
Inspector: You're gonna need hangers there. Me: but I used Elmers Max. Inspector: All good then
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Best comment I’ve seen.
Project farm a video on “the of best 2019” products would be nice to see. Good way to recap all that hard work!
Great video idea! Thank you
Yes the top products of 2019 one the very best and then the best due to price.
I'd like to see that!
You would have made a GREAT Mythbuster! All your videos show how well thought out your testing methods are and the results are clear and precise.
Thanks!