Incredible video, I’d love to learn more about the kingdoms after the Arab Caliphates (like Bagratid Armenia and Cilicia) just a suggestion though. Keep up the great work! 🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
Beautiful beautiful video. It’s all SPOT ON. I can’t say enough how much I appreciate you spreading actual Armenian history. I would just like to add that in the map you posted Trialeti didn’t start from that south it was more north and spread from there
Thank you very much, that means a lot to me! That's right, I used to just copy the maps from Wikipedia but have been trying to pay more attention since it was brought to my attention. I appreciate the feedback!
@@AkravHistory honestly man halala yes keep it up and if you have any place we can’t donate I will gladly do so you deserve it I know these videos take time. Also if you need and thing with linguistics and other aspects of our history feel free to message me I study this stuff
Thank you again for the kind words! No donations for now, I'm enjoying making these videos in my spare time. And I'll keep that in mind if I ever need any input on linguistics!
Spot on video yeghpayr. I really appreciate your channel and how you pay so much attention to Armenian history. I saw you also met my brother Anton Beats. Keep up the great work 💪💪
Astuas is a striking example, indeed. I have always been curious about the origin of the "Astvats" word in Armenian. Besides, Armenia Minor, or Little Armenia, has always interested me too because most history articles and videos are focused on Armenia Major, or Greater Armenia, leaving out the Little Armenia. And some even confuse Little Armenia with the Cilician Armenian kingdom, although they are two different entities in geographic and chronological terms. I wish I knew more about the Little Armenia. The only thing I know is that it was an ancient kingdom which was more Hellenized than the Greater Armenia, sometimes neighbouring, sometimes being part of the Pontic kingdom,and eventually becoming a part of the Eastern Roman empire, probably, losing its Armenian identity.
12:42 I will point out that Mushki sounds exactly same as the Serbian word "Muški", meaning "male". Another possible etymology. Also, Serbs oftenly use Mita as a nickname for the names Mitar, Dimitrije, and similar, coming from Greek name Demetrios, or Iranian God Mitra. Still, I didn't think about connection with the city of Mush.
I was so thrilled with Unag-Astuas that I decided to find the origin. And it turned out to be Ú-na-ga-aš-ta-aš or Ú-na-ag-ga-aš-ta-aš, which makes it slightly less likely to be the origin of Astwats word 😅😢
Would be cool to get a video on Armenian ethogenesis, particularly early impact of the Phrygians and Mushki into the region, collapse of the Urartians and Hurrian cities, and the Pre Persian influence Proto Armenian in trying to understand its closes possible linguistic relations. As well as Luwian and Nesili origin words in Armenian would be very interesting to discover
Thanks! I think this video was about as close as we got to ethnogenesis. Back then a person who knew far more about the subject was helping me write them. You might also like the "Were Urartians Armenian?" video.
@@AkravHistory Oh you did plenty great without going to fringe ideas. Sadly the information we have on pre Behistun depiction of Armenia is rare, and often hidden in layers of meaning we have to archaeologically unveil. I am actually glad to have watched this video, as most other people noted the closeness between Hayasa and Hayasdan, which is not satisfactory in my view, as the -sdan suffix is from the very early Persian Achaemenid influence on Armenia (Even apparently t'agavor being derived from xšāyaθiya which became Shah in Persian, and as apparently Armenian and Persian states and politics were unseparably close back then, even so much as Orontids being seen as continuation of Persia after the Achaemenids fell) , and have always wondered what a Pre-Persian conquest Proto Armenian sounded like. Hayots Azn makes more sense, and in the explanatory sense, as back then people saw themselves as more union of tribes than a patrimonial nation.
Maybe hayasa refers to the Armenians and Azzi refers to the Assyrians/Aramaeans that coexisted with them. 🤷🏻♂️. Kind of makes sense considering the Armenians used Aramaic alphabet prior to the Armenian alphabet.
I don't like the term Caucasus. It's an expansionist term from Russian decision after the mountains in Georgia. These are the Armenian Highlands. Anyways, most people would agree the Iranian ones are called Zagros.
@@armenbabikian94 "We are Orientals, and we believe in what is written on our foreheads, what is called faith." Armenian Poet Shahan Shahnour and Monte Melkonian. Stop being a Eurocentrist and preserve your ancestors customs.
Barev Axper, thanks for watching! I always thought of them as Armenian but looking them up now and it seems like they claimed to have Achaemenid heritage, possibly to strengthen their political legitimacy.
@@Niko-nm7mj I wish we knew. This is a period where we first start seeing the Armenian language emerge and its a mystery that's posted a problem for linguists for hundreds of years. In 'Anabasis' (~400BC), Xenophon mentions using a Persian interpreter to converse with Armenians and in some of the Armenian villages they responded in Persian. Whereas the final ruler of the Orontid dynasty, Yervand IV (~200BC) seems to have had an affinity for Greek culture and institutions.
@@AkravHistory Ah ok axper could u make an vid about the ancient orontids artaxes about there origin and how armenia was under there rule if u will thanks!
Chalybes is Kalibres - metal workers from southern India with YDNA L. A caliper is used in a black (Kali)smith shop for handling hot metal & evolved in a measuring device for measuring diameter like the calibre of a a gun barrel or ammunition. If you follow that name around & the YDNA L you will find many famous metal working cities. Kalibr is now a Russian missile family.
@@AkravHistoryI have heard Vietnamese before and the English you were speaking had no resemblance besides with some minor Armenian features in your English which is weird because you said you were Western Armenian from your grandparents then how did some features stay
@@AkravHistory some verb placement and adjective and word order but mostly word order that tends to be closer to Armenian Note I learned Armenian by some guy who I am friends with I am not a native speaker
It's good you're asking, because just last night I broke it down for all of you to see, who are all the pieces which comprise the Armenian highlands: Hittites/Hatti = Canaanites Hul = Hurrians = Urumu = Mitanni --> Ararat+ Minni = neo-Hittite empire (+Georgians) Tubal = Georgians = neo-Hittite empire (+Arameans: Hul) --->Armenia Togarmah = Phrygians = Hayasa-Azzi (+Hittites) = Armenians Meshech = Kashka = Mushki = Cappadocians = Slavs Riphat = Pala = Paphlagonians = Galatians = Celts/Gauls ---> Cimmerians (Gomer)
According to this map, did Kartvelian peoples live in the skies that time? Appreciate Armenian history, but no need to exaggerate especially when you really have such a pearl history and culture.
Yeah, I went with the maps I found in most common places, but some viewers pointed that out. If you have any good sources please let me know I can address it in a future correction video.
@renamanvelova5200 I cover the treaty of Tirkmenchay in my video about Azerbaijani school books. I recommend watching it if you are genuinely interested in learning.
at 7:30: Tergarama, Torgarma, all bone or strong. (He was a very big man and had a lot of kids and lived a long time and had to find new lands for his people- or family, as it were.) In Genesis 10, he was the third son of Gomer, son of Japheth, son of Noah. The "Togarma-Turk" fuzzy connection refers only to the place, not the people, I think, unless they both came from this guy. He supposedly had fathered many peoples besides Hyak's tribe. I think I remember reading this very chronicle that you mentioned in the 'Did Hyak Exist' video, who is it, Moshe something... oh, Movses Khorenatsi, also, Moses of Chorene. I'm not sure how he spelled or rendered Torgarma's name or if his genealogy has any anomalies with Gen. 10. I do think Matriarchal names are put at critical points, like the man in question's mother, or mother's father.
8:51 Two european linguists in the 1800's wrongfully, because of some/many Persian LOANwords, thought Armenian had a connection to the Indo-Iranian languages. Today, the only connection proofen is to Old Greek.
Interestingly, it is not mentioned at all in the Kurdish-Persian Caucasian Assyrian peoples. However, today Kurdish Alevis are living the beliefs of 3 thousand years ago. Do the Armeni people know about this pagan belief? Also, what are the armenian tribes? thank you
Thanks for watching! The thing is, these aren't my opinions, but everything I say in the video I have read somewhere and all the sources are listed in the description. If you have any sources that claim otherwise, I would be happy to read them. :)
Right. The further back in time we go, the more guesswork is going to be involved. Your example demonstrates this perfectly. "Hay" is a very common sound that could have different meanings in different languages. It means "high" in English, and it means "this" in Arabic, and so on. It's not a bad idea to try and support those guesses with more evidence. Thanks for your comment!
But you all know that armenians are a mix of indoeuropeans and caucasians? The indiginous languages of armenian highland were mostly non indoeuropean language and related to caucasian languages like hurrian or urartian i think maybe hayasa was hurrian too and why armenians always denying the huge non indoeuropean charakter of the language what is false about that? Is it false to have both indoeuropeans and caucasians as ancestors?nairi urartu hurri all non indoeuropean!!only the mushki i think were indoeuropeans(related to thracian and dacians maybe)
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I don't think we deny that Armenian has caucasian sounds, but I believe the structure of the language is the reason why linguists categorize it as an Indo-European language in its own family (not just Armenian linguists).
@@AkravHistory no i think armenian language is not enough discovered i think its a creole language of indoeuropean and caucasian not only sounds it differ a lot from other indoeuropean languages sansrkit and german or other have more to do with each other than armenian i think the only thing that we can say is that some long time ago a group of warlike thracians(armens) came to armenian highland and unified the indiginous People because of assyria and other wars and somehow they indoeuropeanized the armenian language or indiginous language..
Do You really think that lake Van region can be called Caucasus? I think not. It is quite obvious that large part of historic Armenia is not part of Caucasus. So calling Armenians as a mixture of Caucasian and Indo European us not correct. Hurro-Urartian languages have been recently demonstrated to be connected to Sumerian. Read Aleksei Kassian. So it could be a fertile crescent language. Another language that was almost certainly spoken in Armenia were the IE Anatolian languages. So things are somewhat more complicated.
@@MonoBlogger with caucasian i mean not the caucasus mountains i mean people that have links to hurro urartian people and most linguist now link hurrourartian with northeastcaucasian languages and sumerian cannot be really related to any other language according to most linguist..
Nairi was very much indo european. In addition to that, there is no evidence showing that "hurrian" or "urartian" languages had a majority presence in Armenian highland, quite the contrary, there is a lot of evidence showing that Indo European populations have lived there, predating hurrians, and were always the majority. In addition to that... "Urartians" and "Hurrians" do NOT have Caucasian origins, this is a lie that both the Soviets (georgian fabricators mainly) and turks sowed together to deny Armenian indigenousness, recent research done on this topic shows there is NO basis to linking either the Hurrians or Urartians to caucasians at all. The Hurrians were known to come from modern day north Iraq, NOT caucasus. There are theories that they had long been assimilated and Armenianized ever since recorded history. You calling Armenians "thracians" already shows you are choosing to follow along with LONG debunked theories from turkey's misinformative archaeology community. German and Sanskirt having more in common than German and Armenian doesn't mean anything. Anatolian Languages (which Armenian is related to) also exhibit many similar obscurities in their language. They also had no gender discretion and similar phoenetics. I know you are a Georgian, so what I will tell you is this: You have many loanwords FROM Armenian, including your word for "Wolf", it's not the other way around. Stop trying to drag Armenians into your transcaucasian zombie civic identity.
@@AkravHistory seems like you haven’t properly done your studies . …. Look up Edward jewitt wheeler / Isaac Kaufman talk about Hittite langue being old Armenian . Study vahan setyan expose the falsifications of Armenia history paid by Turks …. I miss spelled its vahan setyan , Hemlet nersesian
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Im Half Armenian and half Greek!
Im proud too be Half Armenian!
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@@AkravHistory I saw!
Thanks!
@@AkravHistory how long you need for you’re videos?!
@@hayellada-ball3836 It's hard to say since I make them in my spare time. From initial idea to finished video, let's say a few days to a week tops!
@@AkravHistory oh, cool!
This hard to animate with the maps!
Your excellent videos make me proud to be Armenian.
Thank you very much Narekaci, glad you're enjoying them!
Incredible video, I’d love to learn more about the kingdoms after the Arab Caliphates (like Bagratid Armenia and Cilicia) just a suggestion though. Keep up the great work! 🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
Thank you very much! Slowly crawling our way towards those times!
@@AkravHistoryDon’t forget about the glorious crusade Kingdom of Armenia in the Cilicia region. :)
Keep up the good work.
Beautiful beautiful video. It’s all SPOT ON. I can’t say enough how much I appreciate you spreading actual Armenian history. I would just like to add that in the map you posted Trialeti didn’t start from that south it was more north and spread from there
Thank you very much, that means a lot to me! That's right, I used to just copy the maps from Wikipedia but have been trying to pay more attention since it was brought to my attention.
I appreciate the feedback!
@@AkravHistory honestly man halala yes keep it up and if you have any place we can’t donate I will gladly do so you deserve it I know these videos take time. Also if you need and thing with linguistics and other aspects of our history feel free to message me I study this stuff
Thank you again for the kind words! No donations for now, I'm enjoying making these videos in my spare time. And I'll keep that in mind if I ever need any input on linguistics!
I am proud to be Armenian
Gay name change it to hayk
@@Niko-nm7mjwtf?
Me too 🇦🇲!!!!!
Spot on video yeghpayr. I really appreciate your channel and how you pay so much attention to Armenian history. I saw you also met my brother Anton Beats. Keep up the great work 💪💪
Thank you for the kind words, it means a lot to me that you're enjoying the videos!
Thoroughly enjoying these informationally dense videos, keep it up brother.
Thank you very much, more to come!
Thank you so much for your work !!
Thank you very much for watching Maria!
One of the best videos on Hayassa-Azzi I’ve seen so far.
Thank you very much!
The connections are obvious and undoubtable.
But some more than others! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Very interesting, thank you!
Thank you for watching!
This is great!
Thank you so much!
Astuas is a striking example, indeed. I have always been curious about the origin of the "Astvats" word in Armenian.
Besides, Armenia Minor, or Little Armenia, has always interested me too because most history articles and videos are focused on Armenia Major, or Greater Armenia, leaving out the Little Armenia. And some even confuse Little Armenia with the Cilician Armenian kingdom, although they are two different entities in geographic and chronological terms. I wish I knew more about the Little Armenia. The only thing I know is that it was an ancient kingdom which was more Hellenized than the Greater Armenia, sometimes neighbouring, sometimes being part of the Pontic kingdom,and eventually becoming a part of the Eastern Roman empire, probably, losing its Armenian identity.
I love how the background music is from "Dicatators: No Peace" countryballs game ;)
Haha! I wonder if it was a conscious choice, I don't remember as I was still experimenting with different options during this video.
Azzi hayasa ( mec hayasa) (большой айаса) тоже самое как большая Армения azzi это понятие как большой !
12:42 I will point out that Mushki sounds exactly same as the Serbian word "Muški", meaning "male". Another possible etymology. Also, Serbs oftenly use Mita as a nickname for the names Mitar, Dimitrije, and similar, coming from Greek name Demetrios, or Iranian God Mitra. Still, I didn't think about connection with the city of Mush.
I was so thrilled with Unag-Astuas that I decided to find the origin. And it turned out to be Ú-na-ga-aš-ta-aš or Ú-na-ag-ga-aš-ta-aš, which makes it slightly less likely to be the origin of Astwats word 😅😢
Fascinating
Akrav Ագռավ respectful ✋🗻🌀🏛️🇦🇲
Thanks very much!
@@AkravHistory 🌅
Would be cool to get a video on Armenian ethogenesis, particularly early impact of the Phrygians and Mushki into the region, collapse of the Urartians and Hurrian cities, and the Pre Persian influence Proto Armenian in trying to understand its closes possible linguistic relations. As well as Luwian and Nesili origin words in Armenian would be very interesting to discover
Thanks! I think this video was about as close as we got to ethnogenesis. Back then a person who knew far more about the subject was helping me write them. You might also like the "Were Urartians Armenian?" video.
@@AkravHistory Oh you did plenty great without going to fringe ideas. Sadly the information we have on pre Behistun depiction of Armenia is rare, and often hidden in layers of meaning we have to archaeologically unveil. I am actually glad to have watched this video, as most other people noted the closeness between Hayasa and Hayasdan, which is not satisfactory in my view, as the -sdan suffix is from the very early Persian Achaemenid influence on Armenia (Even apparently t'agavor being derived from xšāyaθiya which became Shah in Persian, and as apparently Armenian and Persian states and politics were unseparably close back then, even so much as Orontids being seen as continuation of Persia after the Achaemenids fell) , and have always wondered what a Pre-Persian conquest Proto Armenian sounded like. Hayots Azn makes more sense, and in the explanatory sense, as back then people saw themselves as more union of tribes than a patrimonial nation.
dope video 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!
Truly unknown history!
A fascinating chapter of our past that deserves more spotlight! Thanks for watching! 👀
in the hebrew tanakh, a nation named Togarmah is mentioned, and speculated to be armenia. do you happen to know anything abaout the subject?
I think I mentioned it in the very first video I made about the legend of Hayk. But I don't really know much about it
@@AkravHistory thank you so much!
My little niece's name is Azatuhi but we call her Azi. I as a keyboard anthropologist did my part...hope it helped 😁
Call the press!!
Maybe hayasa refers to the Armenians and Azzi refers to the Assyrians/Aramaeans that coexisted with them. 🤷🏻♂️. Kind of makes sense considering the Armenians used Aramaic alphabet prior to the Armenian alphabet.
6:48 very interesting leading to what we just spoke of on the biblical narrative amen
11:25 🧬🪔
Браво Армения апрес ❤❤❤
what a good history have my country. Long live Armenia!
Well made video.
Thank you!
thank you
Thank you for watching!
according to 12th century b.c. Assyrian sources, in this region, lived Kurds.
Hayyasa-Hay/Azzi-Azg = Hay Azg ? - Armenian Nation ?
Che Azzin qaxaqi anuna
I don't like the term Caucasus. It's an expansionist term from Russian decision after the mountains in Georgia. These are the Armenian Highlands. Anyways, most people would agree the Iranian ones are called Zagros.
we are neither middle east
@@armenbabikian94 "We are Orientals, and we believe in what is written on our foreheads, what is called faith." Armenian Poet Shahan Shahnour and Monte Melkonian. Stop being a Eurocentrist and preserve your ancestors customs.
@@middleeastarmenia407 who told you that i am eurocentrist and why did you assume that???
@@armenbabikian94According to dna we are half Caucasian and Anatolian and half catacomb culture. We are not Middle-Eastern.
Axper I have qeustion were the orontids Armenian?
Barev Axper, thanks for watching! I always thought of them as Armenian but looking them up now and it seems like they claimed to have Achaemenid heritage, possibly to strengthen their political legitimacy.
@@AkravHistory Apres aper did they speak Armenian tho?
@@Niko-nm7mj I wish we knew. This is a period where we first start seeing the Armenian language emerge and its a mystery that's posted a problem for linguists for hundreds of years. In 'Anabasis' (~400BC), Xenophon mentions using a Persian interpreter to converse with Armenians and in some of the Armenian villages they responded in Persian. Whereas the final ruler of the Orontid dynasty, Yervand IV (~200BC) seems to have had an affinity for Greek culture and institutions.
@@AkravHistory Ah ok axper could u make an vid about the ancient orontids artaxes about there origin and how armenia was under there rule if u will thanks!
@@Niko-nm7mj We will definitely get to it, thank you axper!
I love it.
Cheers!
Chalybes!
Indeed 🤟
@@AkravHistory so Hayasa-Azzi is Armenian!
I googled it!
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Chalybes?
@@AkravHistory hittite1.webs.com/Hittite%20is%20not%20an%20extinct%20language.pdf
Chalybes is Kalibres - metal workers from southern India with YDNA L. A caliper is used in a black (Kali)smith shop for handling hot metal & evolved in a measuring device for measuring diameter like the calibre of a a gun barrel or ammunition. If you follow that name around & the YDNA L you will find many famous metal working cities. Kalibr is now a Russian missile family.
So for some reason the subtitles are in Vietnamese because it picked your English as Vietnamese for some reason.
That's hilarious, I'll see if I can fix it manually.
@@AkravHistoryI have heard Vietnamese before and the English you were speaking had no resemblance besides with some minor Armenian features in your English which is weird because you said you were Western Armenian from your grandparents then how did some features stay
@qpdb840 depends on the feature I guess, it could just be similar. Any feature in mind?
@@AkravHistory some verb placement and adjective and word order but mostly word order that tends to be closer to Armenian
Note I learned Armenian by some guy who I am friends with I am not a native speaker
@qpdb840 interesting. It's likely western Armenian shares those features
In Sanskrit Haya means place of worship Haystan.The ancient land of Indo Aryan civilization.
It's good you're asking, because just last night I broke it down for all of you to see, who are all the pieces which comprise the Armenian highlands:
Hittites/Hatti = Canaanites
Hul = Hurrians = Urumu = Mitanni --> Ararat+ Minni =
neo-Hittite empire (+Georgians)
Tubal = Georgians = neo-Hittite empire (+Arameans: Hul) --->Armenia
Togarmah = Phrygians = Hayasa-Azzi (+Hittites) = Armenians
Meshech = Kashka = Mushki = Cappadocians = Slavs
Riphat = Pala = Paphlagonians = Galatians = Celts/Gauls ---> Cimmerians (Gomer)
there are some fallacies in this.
@@hayots_lernashkharh no there aren't. Allah Akbar!!!!!!🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺🤺
The hell is drivel?
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 drivel? Yes, wtf is drivel lol
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy I'm saying everything you wrote up there was horse shit.
According to this map, did Kartvelian peoples live in the skies that time?
Appreciate Armenian history, but no need to exaggerate especially when you really have such a pearl history and culture.
be careful with the maps!
Buddy it went all the way to the caspian sea
Yeah, I went with the maps I found in most common places, but some viewers pointed that out. If you have any good sources please let me know I can address it in a future correction video.
@renamanvelova5200 I cover the treaty of Tirkmenchay in my video about Azerbaijani school books. I recommend watching it if you are genuinely interested in learning.
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at 7:30: Tergarama, Torgarma, all bone or strong. (He was a very big man and had a lot of kids and lived a long time and had to find new lands for his people- or family, as it were.) In Genesis 10, he was the third son of Gomer, son of Japheth, son of Noah. The "Togarma-Turk" fuzzy connection refers only to the place, not the people, I think, unless they both came from this guy. He supposedly had fathered many peoples besides Hyak's tribe. I think I remember reading this very chronicle that you mentioned in the 'Did Hyak Exist' video, who is it, Moshe something... oh, Movses Khorenatsi, also, Moses of Chorene. I'm not sure how he spelled or rendered Torgarma's name or if his genealogy has any anomalies with Gen. 10. I do think Matriarchal names are put at critical points, like the man in question's mother, or mother's father.
Your world map is totally wrong for the time
Bayc axpers uzumem imanam incha ne shanakum Hayasa Azzi ?
Հայասա-Ազզի, պետական կազմավորում Հայկական լեռնաշխարհի տարածքում, հիշատակվում է խեթական արձանագրություններում մ.թ.ա. 16-րդ դարից առ մ.թ.ա 13-րդ դար։
@@AkravHistory Q@ lini normal alfabetnerov geres yes hayeri alfabetnerov chem haskanum 😅 ?
8:51 Two european linguists in the 1800's wrongfully, because of some/many Persian LOANwords, thought Armenian had a connection to the Indo-Iranian languages. Today, the only connection proofen is to Old Greek.
Interestingly, it is not mentioned at all in the Kurdish-Persian Caucasian Assyrian peoples. However, today Kurdish Alevis are living the beliefs of 3 thousand years ago. Do the Armeni people know about this pagan belief? Also, what are the armenian tribes? thank you
Thanks for watching! The thing is, these aren't my opinions, but everything I say in the video I have read somewhere and all the sources are listed in the description. If you have any sources that claim otherwise, I would be happy to read them. :)
HAY= ARMENIAN . SA= THIS IS THIS IS ARMENIA.
IN AMERICA THEY HAVE = U. S. AND AMERICA. DO WE ASK WHAT THAT MEANS. EDUCATED PEOPLE CANFIGUR OUT FAST,
Right. The further back in time we go, the more guesswork is going to be involved. Your example demonstrates this perfectly. "Hay" is a very common sound that could have different meanings in different languages. It means "high" in English, and it means "this" in Arabic, and so on. It's not a bad idea to try and support those guesses with more evidence.
Thanks for your comment!
But you all know that armenians are a mix of indoeuropeans and caucasians? The indiginous languages of armenian highland were mostly non indoeuropean language and related to caucasian languages like hurrian or urartian i think maybe hayasa was hurrian too and why armenians always denying the huge non indoeuropean charakter of the language what is false about that? Is it false to have both indoeuropeans and caucasians as ancestors?nairi urartu hurri all non indoeuropean!!only the mushki i think were indoeuropeans(related to thracian and dacians maybe)
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I don't think we deny that Armenian has caucasian sounds, but I believe the structure of the language is the reason why linguists categorize it as an Indo-European language in its own family (not just Armenian linguists).
@@AkravHistory no i think armenian language is not enough discovered i think its a creole language of indoeuropean and caucasian not only sounds it differ a lot from other indoeuropean languages sansrkit and german or other have more to do with each other than armenian i think the only thing that we can say is that some long time ago a group of warlike thracians(armens) came to armenian highland and unified the indiginous People because of assyria and other wars and somehow they indoeuropeanized the armenian language or indiginous language..
Do You really think that lake Van region can be called Caucasus? I think not.
It is quite obvious that large part of historic Armenia is not part of Caucasus. So calling Armenians as a mixture of Caucasian and Indo European us not correct.
Hurro-Urartian languages have been recently demonstrated to be connected to Sumerian. Read Aleksei Kassian.
So it could be a fertile crescent language. Another language that was almost certainly spoken in Armenia were the IE Anatolian languages.
So things are somewhat more complicated.
@@MonoBlogger with caucasian i mean not the caucasus mountains i mean people that have links to hurro urartian people and most linguist now link hurrourartian with northeastcaucasian languages and sumerian cannot be really related to any other language according to most linguist..
Nairi was very much indo european. In addition to that, there is no evidence showing that "hurrian" or "urartian" languages had a majority presence in Armenian highland, quite the contrary, there is a lot of evidence showing that Indo European populations have lived there, predating hurrians, and were always the majority.
In addition to that... "Urartians" and "Hurrians" do NOT have Caucasian origins, this is a lie that both the Soviets (georgian fabricators mainly) and turks sowed together to deny Armenian indigenousness, recent research done on this topic shows there is NO basis to linking either the Hurrians or Urartians to caucasians at all. The Hurrians were known to come from modern day north Iraq, NOT caucasus. There are theories that they had long been assimilated and Armenianized ever since recorded history. You calling Armenians "thracians" already shows you are choosing to follow along with LONG debunked theories from turkey's misinformative archaeology community.
German and Sanskirt having more in common than German and Armenian doesn't mean anything. Anatolian Languages (which Armenian is related to) also exhibit many similar obscurities in their language. They also had no gender discretion and similar phoenetics. I know you are a Georgian, so what I will tell you is this: You have many loanwords FROM Armenian, including your word for "Wolf", it's not the other way around. Stop trying to drag Armenians into your transcaucasian zombie civic identity.
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Hittites were Armenian as well
The Hittites had their own language and culture.
@@AkravHistory seems like you haven’t properly done your studies . …. Look up Edward jewitt wheeler / Isaac Kaufman talk about Hittite langue being old Armenian . Study vahan setyan expose the falsifications of Armenia history paid by Turks
…. I miss spelled its vahan setyan ,
Hemlet nersesian
Hmm, I can't find anything under those names but I'd love to learn more if you could point me in the right direction.
ruclips.net/video/htS_ycexXJA/видео.htmlsi=FFvfBxlSR__cvYBs
That link is a great video to start with …… it’s an interview with vahan setyan by hemlet