I absolutely love this strategy and have colored up every time I utilize the horn on the come out on the don't side and lay on the 4 and 10 on the pass line side... I never go to the 150 if I do loose the seventy five I take it as a loss and drip down to 35 again ....it has worked better than All The other strategys on your channel.. Absolutely love what you're doing keep up the great work
@@ColorUp headed to Vegas in 7 days for vacation with my dad looking forward to the Fremont and downtown was wondering what is your favorite system for method to this awesome game
Yep, this system worked for me +1700 last week at Aria. I think it's best to move tables after a give amount or time so that you don't get emotionally attached to the dealers or the other players. I seemed to get cough in the emotions of playing all the pass lines and side bets... I would change the view after about $250 or so. You can win if you stick with the Strat.
love the system ---play at rampart now and suncoast for the 50 dollars on 6 tables a day takes about one hour 1/2 and also a professional sports bettor and baccarat player--been doing this for 45 years i hope u are successful too
Recently found and enjoying your videos. You can simplify this easily as making opposing bets is not necessary. Either pick whichever side you like on the first come out roll after you get to the table, or wait for the first outcome and start betting on the opposite side. either way, just double the bet if you lose, instead of doubling plus one and betting one unit on the other side and if you win, switch sides and start at one unit. The math is exactly the same without the need to bother placing two bets each time.
I believe I did the math on this once before. I think the only reason he has you bet both lines is so that you can more easily count your winnings up to the $50 before changing tables. I eventually stopped betting both lines and I just wait for the outcome before I start my first bet.
Yea this is one of his most awful videos , if never played craps your thinking you can play pass / no pass at same time ..... Probably be easier if he just puts the best out individually ahead of time . ( If this is a demonstration , do the chips need to be racked ? ) ... How hard is just to lay out bets 5 , 15 , 35 , 75 , & so on ........ Man this was frustrating , hey win 500 a day ' than explanation was just clumsy , & confusing asf ! Why ???? So put 5 on not pass , if lose put 15 on pass & keep flip flopping ? If hit on first bet , stay at 5 ? & Flip or not flip not pass / pass ??????
Actually you can play both sides at same time. Not really a benefit though. This is a recreation of someone’s idea. I believe he bet both sides to start with to “determine” a trend. (Something I don’t believe in) nevertheless that’s the system. Thanks for checking out.
Ok , was typing during video than came back & did the math 2 or 3 times ! Than understood what he was saying , no flip flop , bet one side an raise until you win .... Ok good video , was hard to understand at first bc there was so much yak action ' up down left right .... Came back at end of video an seen just stay on one side ... Yes if it's hitting this is excellent
So far so good. Played around for 30 minutes on a simulator and divided it into 7 intervals. 1st: $90; 2nd, 3rd and 6th: $55 each, 4th: $195 (went to $600 before getting a front line winner on pass) and 5th: $130 (kept getting 12's on come out rolls). I am a random roller though, so I wonder if a dice control shooter (if you believe in that, no opinion either way for me) might scew the actual results. Another interesting strategy...Great job on all your vlogs
Just got back from Dover for a day trip to place some money at the new sportsbook and tried it out (had to use my pony money for bankroll). Made a little over $1150 total in 2 sessions of 4 hours each and will try again next time I go up there. There were some wild swings of a $600 dont that finally hit to a the next series of a $600 pass line (2 stinking 12's on the comeout roll twice) that had my heart pounding.
I've actually played something like this before, but it made sense when I did it because I'd have place bets up to counteract my don't bets, with money also on the pass, it hurts on the coming out if 12 happens, but if not, after the coming out, there's 100% ways to win since the place bets pay more than the don't, and the don't pays more than the place bets cost minus losing the pass. For example, I'd have 36 on the don't and 30 on the pass, with a 5 dollar place bet up on the point number. It basically is a no 12 on the coming out strategy, prob not worth the risk, but it's super fun after the coming out cause you can only win a buck lol no matter what happens after a number is established. You either lose the 6 on the don't and win 7 on the place or 9 (4 or 10) or you lose the 5 on the place but win the 6 on the don't. 😅Sometimes I would also put increments of say 35 on the don't with 30 on the pass, and after a point number is established I would (unwisely) give up my advantage of 5 on the don't by removing 5 from the don't, now with 30 on both pass and don't the same, and just make a place bet on the number 😉 and maybe even 1 buck on the hardways on a hardways number, like 36 to start on the don't with 30 on the pass, then after the point establishes, take the 6 off the don't put 1 on the hardway and the other 5 on the point, as to simply play to root on the shooter.
I realized later on I'm ridiculously losing on the pass when the 12 comes up, so I realized that if I wanna play like that, I can just put increments of 6 on the don't and nothing on the pass, only risking the coming out being 7 or 11, no longer afraid of the 12, and now, I just place 5 on the point number, or 6 on a 6 or 8, guaranteed to break even or win a buck. Awesome of course on 4 or 10, but no need to fear the 12 now. This is a really fun way to play for a long time at a table with minimal risk, it's more for having fun and lasting a long time just playing to socialize and have fun without losing a lot of money fast. Often times, it can even be combined with other strategies and bets to recoup losses and still leave a winner small or not, but always feels good to win a few bucks rather than leave broke. I'd love a chance for my strategy to be showed in a video, although I'm sure something similar has already been put out there. On a point 4 or 10, I love to take a buck a hardway it, breaks even on the 7 out, but if the point hits the easy way, I win 2 bucks, and on the hardway I win 12 bucks
On my way to go play craps now lol... I've seen this before but I haven't tried it before... this is usually my bank roll but only in Vegas you can play that much.
I win high $700 to mid $800 playing the pass & don’t, but is done a lot quicker than this. My way is after establishing a point 4,5,9, or 10( don’t play the 6, or 8), you only need two rolls & get out. 90% chance of winning
Color Up what I do is start off playing the 1k on the don’t & the pass, I then play $35 on the hard 12, $1 on snake eyes, 3 on the yo, & 3. I also put $10 on any 7. This is done to mainly protect the 1k on the don’t. I roll, & if I land on the 6, or 8 I just lay a $5 odd on the don’t. If the number is 4, 5, 9, or 10 I play. If the # is 5 or 9 I make bets of, $225 on the 4, & 10. I put $300 on the 9, & 350 on the 6, & 8. I leave the place # which in this case is 5 empty. I put 3k on odds on the don’t. Since I’m one of these guys that need something to happen all the time I also put $6 on the 12, & snake eyes, 7 on the 3 & yo. Now every time I roll I will win $. Now here is the key, I only roll twice, 3 times if one of those roll land on the yo, snake eyes, 3, or hard 12. The only way I lose is if it hits the place # in which I lose the odds on the don’t. Even if I hit a 7 I win about $400 bucks. After I roll twice I bring everything down including the odds on the don’t. I then just place a $5 bet on the odds on the don’t just to end the game. As you can see there is a lot of $ out there but it’s just hedging bets. I do not play on the 6 or 8 because they can come up way too easy. I hope this helps someone.
I use this strategy every time I go to Vegas. I go with the mindset that it's OK if I lose the entire bankroll. I have yet to lose a session with it. I am well over double my bankroll. I play for an hour or so each night while in Vegas and walk away with $200+. I then use my winnings to have a good time on the town the next day. Dinner, a show, zipline on the Rio, High roller ferris wheel. Love this strategy because so far it has paid for my Vegas fun.
I have a $5500 bankroll I gamble with that is compromised of 2 years worth of BJ winnings. I have always been intrigued by craps but was too intimidated by it to get into a game (Mostly in AC). I started reading and watching this channel and some others. I have a practice layout and I am building my confidence slowly and learning different plays. I'm not a large bettor despite my bankroll. I began going to bubble craps but in AC bubble games won't allow this system. Over the last 2 months on 4 trips in I finally began play at real tables. I will confess, I began using this method only because it was very simple. My 4 visits have yielded : $130, $190, $90, and $110. Only 1 time (my second game) I ever got to the $300 bet level. I shoot for 50-100 bucks and then I'm outta there. I have yet to stand more than 45 minutes at a table during a session. Over the long term or a long stay at any table you will most likely loose a lot.
@@ColorUp Oh I'm aware of that. Thats why I watch your channel, you explain the methods very good makes it easier to learn. I'm a very disciplined gambler...If I Ever exceeded a $500 loss in this method I would not make the next bet. I couldnt live with myself for wiping out 2 yrs+ worth of work at the card tables. If I can get to a point where I can apply different strategies and mix things up I will probably still leave by about 250 in profits. I HATE giving them back their money!!!! Id rather nurse a beer and listen to some shitty band in the bar.
@@ColorUp I still play BJ, but I always liked the atmosphere at the dice tables and from what I am reading, if you learn your stuff and stick with it, you have better odds at the Craps table then at BJ. I've played at BJ tables four hours before winning $100 sometimes. Other times, I'm ahead a few hundred in 30 minutes. The BJ tables...well ALL of the table games in AC get quite crowded, there are always players whining if you don't bet the way they expect you to which I go "off base" from time to time and usually do ok. And yes, getting kind of boring being ONLY BJ for a decade or so.....I tried Roulette once, fuggetttaboutit!! So I'm kind of excited about foray into a game that 4 months ago, I knew nothing about. It's a good trip if ya can mix up the action, have fun, and walk away with even a little of the Casino's money in your pocket. I like craps....Old School type game.
Man I can’t believe you didn’t play to $500! I was so wanting to see the other sessions played. Love your vids man, I can’t wait to get back to the casino to try this & the iron cross lol. It may be , but would love to see this again at a super slow speed with more explanation
I thought i saw every strategy in craps but this is one ive never seen or heard about. It looks like a decent strategy but because its a martingale light strategy it does pose a possible big loss scenario but it wasnt difficult for you to win over a hundred dollars in short order. If people can learn to quit while they are ahead i can see this working by giving you alot of small wins and the occasional big loss. good video keep up the good work.
Color Up strictly on the math and probability if you cut short of 8 levels you still have a big chance of winning, but the probability of losing is greater not taking it so deep. Here are the probabilities of losing either side only going this total number of rolls: 1 = 51.41 % chance to lose and loss = $5 2 = 26.43 % and $20 loss 3 = 13.59 % and $55 loss 4 = 6.99 % and $130 loss 5 = 3.59 % and $280 loss 6 =. 1.84 % and $580 loss 7 =. 0.95 % and $1180 loss 8 = 0.49 % and $2380 loss (the bankroll) This is the percentage of losing on N consecutive attempts on Pass or Don’t Pass without a win to end the hand. For random, losing on 8 attempts will occur 0.49% of the time, or less than 5 times in 1000 attempts. If you only want your stop loss to be the $300 betting level ($580 total loss) you have only a 1.84% chance of losing and not making a win in 6 consecutive attempts on either Pass or Don’t Pass. You still win over 98% of the time if you’re willing to risk $600 total stop loss or even over 96% of the time if $150 bet and $280 total loss is your stop loss level. If you’re betting the $150 level and losing, you have actually lost $280 ($150 plus the prior bets of $5, $15, $35, and $75). Where do you think you’d balance yourself - what level playing this method?
Chris Wiseman great job with this! Personally I never like to lose more than $100, but I think I would take this strategy to level 6 to get down to 1.84%, seems pretty reasonable
Silver Hunter casino always has the edge on random but most think they can make a big killing in a nearly 50/50 game. Small win discipline with a stop loss discipline is what can yield long term better results with a good method. This is a method that works on the small edges but only expecting small gains.
Silver Hunter I think Al Kaufman said to play 10 sessions (?) per visit. He says you should be able to play a month and probably receive only one loss. When the bets get up there it does look scary.
After all you've learned about craps, I'd LOVE to see a video on: "A Trip To Vegas"....It doesn't have to be shot in Vegas, just a run down on how you initially approach your first table...."take it's temperature" (if you do that) and how (what methodology/"system") you start your playing......please.
Ken Lumley really appreciate your curiousity, but it’s not that interesting ha. I walk in with idea of strategy I will work into after some conservative play such as 6/8. As far as picking table, no temp, just not too full or empty, and $5 :)
I can tell you with much experience playing this strategy for nearly 3 months almost 5 days a week, the way to play this is to take no more than 5 wins. All strategies will take losses, but if you stay and play every single opportunity, the losses will "find you". The 72hr book of live rolls is a great way to test this guys strategies. And the concept of changing tables is easy to witness when using this book. If you play the book straight through, the losses will find you. If you simply take a set of dice and you roll them to establish a page number to start on and then roll them again to establish what shooter you're going to start with, on that page, you can do this over and over and over and potentially never land on one of the losses in the book. That's the concept. Take an improbable situation, not impossible, and plug in for a short time. It has been very successful.
Yes and no . They keep changing the color of the dices and the weight feels different . I can get into the grove when start out but when the dice comes back to he it’s hard to get back into . But I start off with 60-100 bucks and in my first roll I usually stack it to 300-500 in my first roll after that it’s hard to win any more after that for some reason but I walk away a winner from 60-75 percent when I play
Al is saying it is a method not a strategy because you should win most of the time, and don't try it without at least 2400$ bank roll ,which is great if you got that kind of cash on hand, but I would teak it, I would never go pass the 150 level , go back to level 1 until the streak goes in your favor, it is just illogical to risk 2400 for a 50 dollar profit.
color up will you please give me a method or strategy for that pop up craps at the Hollywood casino Columbus Ohio, check it out and let me know the next time you come home to Ohio , so you show me how play it, their system is automated , the dice are bubble every 25 sec.yes but I think method means more of a guaranteed result, strategy seems that their is more volatility on the out come of the results , just like war strategies of the unknown, you might be a hero and make, or the unseen might get you, but with a tried and true method most of your men make it home safe 9 out of 10 times , unless something happens and you don't follow the rules of the method, and the you are vulnerable to lose your bank roll also.Thanks for the shout back
Risk an extra $5 for each come out roll? How about $1? Pays 30 to 1 so that's still good. Or do you mean only bet the $5 on 12 when you're in a lot of money on the don't pass?
This method might work many times for you at home with your dice and simulated craps table. But, when you are at the billion dollar facility that has eyes everywhere monitoring all patrons, and sophisticated electronics that ensure that the billion dollar resort maintains the edge. Then you will soon discover how often your unlikely eight losses in a row might occur. They might allow you to win for a while, maybe for quite a while. Then, your mind is trained to think this is easy way to make money. You like that, and perhaps scale up bets a bit to get better return. Then you experience the unlikely long losing streak. So now 50 wins needed to make this up. You win for a while, but not quite 50 in a row, then another long losing streak, and must win 50 to make up that. You win a few more times, then amazingly you have another long losing streak. Now, you must win over 100 times to make up losses. You then reflect, and think of all of the enjoyable ways you could have used the money you loss, and time you wasted on a system that never had a chance of working.
Call it math, whatever you want to call it. If you bet a significant amount of money, the casino will get it. Best martingale strategy would be to bet columns on roulette. Bet 2 columns ,minimal bet, get paid 3 to 1. But because you always lose one column bet, payment is 3 to 2. If you lose, then bet $50 per column. If lose again, go to $300 per column. If lose that, then $1000 per column. If lose that, then go home. Chose a table preferably loaded with other very active players, with people covering many numbers particularly 0. Also, best to play at single 0 table. Place one of your bets on column that last landed, in case number repeats. Place other bet of equal amount on column just before no more bets is announced. Waiting until last few seconds to place that second bet gives me piece of mind that any electronic control of where ball lands, less likely to occur, though it still may. Play at a casino like BELLAGIO where betting $2000 on roulette is not that big a deal. gl
I've been using WinCraps to run this strategy and see how it does. I call 8 losses in a row a "bust". I run the simulation until I get 100 busts and then add the data to my analysis. So far I have run about 2.25 million rolls over 14 sessions, so 1,400 busts. I am only doing this on the DON'T side as it seems that it loses less often than the PASS side. So far the average bust takes about 1,600 rolls. But I have seen a bust in as few as 11 rolls (!) and as many as 11,222 rolls. It seems that roughly half of your wins come back-to-back, without any intervening losses. The progression roughly halves going forward (25% of wins come after one loss, 12.7% of wins come after 2 losses, 6.5% of wins come after 3 losses, etc.). For every 1000 wins, you will see 8.4 losses. I’ll share more data as it develops.
The problem is 12 kills both bets on the come out roll. And what's the point in starting out with the same amount of $ on the pass and don't pass? Why not just start out on the pass and if you lose you start your progressive bet and then put 5 on the Don't pass?
I've always been very interested in the professors methods , but like you said, lots of risk , but then again, maybe just a hundred a day might be a more feasible way to work this strategy. He has another wild system im sure you're familiar with the "444" I'd be interested in seeing you roll that one out . You rock man, keep the great content coming. Peace and Love from Massachusetts.as always Good luck on COLORING UP :D
Every system can be good for a short time, but eventually will lose. I think that the best way to win is to have 4-5 different systems in mind. Play one untill you have a set amount (not too big, but not too small) and then switch system (and maybe table/game) and try another system again. And most importantly, don't play too long. The odds will catch you
you say they’re independent bets but you gotta pair them up and never bet against the one leveling up. this is why the bank roll is 2380 and not double that. i’ve tried it in “simulations” and craps apps. works well enough. biggest butt pucker i’ve seen is hitting a lot of sevens on the come out and leveling your don’t pass over and over. other than that gotta watch for the max bet to be 1200+ i’d like to try it once I can safely assume that risk. might even adjust it depending on the max bet allowed. modifications would be like adding a unit at each level after four and charting out the levels beyond 8. thanks cu Dan
Love your videos. I've actually used your strategies myself. You've even inspired me to create my own gambling vlogs on my channel. Thanks for the great content.
Its the Professor! Yeah, Al Kauphman. I use it for blackjack and I have tripled a 2500 fictitious bank roll. I went bust about 3 times but don't forget you make some along the way. So, Yeah, if you get hammered 8 in a row you loose it.
You nailed it!! It does nothing to change the math, but it DOES help you stay focused. I used to like casino hopping up and down the boardwalk in AC and winning $50 at each place before half the joints closed down. Now that the Taj and Revel are reopened under different names, I'm seriously considering doing it again. It really was a lot of fun and the challenge was exciting as I neared the last casino on any particular run. Plus, my odds of success increased as the day went on - started with $5000 vs trying to win 50. At the 2nd place, I now have 5050 trying to win 50, etc. There's a nice, less risky $500 (back when there were 10 casinos on the boardwalk). Stop halfway through and have a nice steak or a reuben, YEAH!!!
Do you think it would be beneficial to just play one of the bets instead of both at the same time? That way you are not losing every time you have a winner.
If independent games, it really doesn’t matter. With both, you’re winning $5 on the small side each time your leveling up for the win in the increasing level side. The bankroll takes care of itself. For example, you decide to play only Pass Line game by itself - you lost the $5, $15, and $35 bets and are betting $75 to win $20 and recoup your bankroll. Win $20 in 4 hands. If you had played DP for $5 on each of those 4 hands, you win 3 times and are only down the last $5 for the DP base bet in the bankroll. Same 4 hands, net $15 quicker. In this example, +$35 in 4 hands to the profit side playing both versus only $20 profit playing just Pass Line alone.
It would be interesting if you did video of you having 50 wins. I know it would take you forever to do but just to test out would be very interesting maybe you do it and speed up the video for time purposes. Thanks again I would love to come test out some strategies with you sometime!
Matlock Perkins this strategy should lose about 5 in 1000 times if rolls are random. That’s a loss of $2380 five times or $11900. If you win 995 times in 1000 you have to get better than a $10 payoff, or a $15 payoff, per win on average to earn a profit long term. If you only average winning level 1 and 2 you will actually lose over every 1000 attempts. $9550-$11900=$2350 loss. However if your wins are level 3 and above wins on average you should net at least $14925-11900=$3025 or more over 1000 attempts. Color Up doesn’t have to roll it out 50 times.
Hi, enjoy your videos. The major problem with this system are the table limits. A lot of tables have limits of $500-1000. If you get stuck on a bad situation where you've lost 6-7 bets in a row, you have hit the table limit. Then what do you do?. They have the table limits because of a Martingale betting system. Eventually, you lose everything!
I have watched the betting method before. Do I like the method, yes and no? Yes in the fact that you have a good chance of hitting one out of eight. No in the fact that with dice I don't see myself using it. Now if you use the blackjack with his guidelines, then I think it works much better. Finally, changing tables etc...that is only done so you are not watched so closely in my opinion. If I am going to do this, play only for a few minutes at a time to pace myself, with all of the excitement going on, whether at dice or blackjack 10 15 minutes in one session take a break then come back. That's my opinion, and can you make 500 a day, I believe it's very possible. All in all, I like his betting method, more so for Blackjack rather than dice, and with discipline and a plan of action, 500 a day can be done.
I can only imagine buying in at a table for $2,380 and then putting down two $5 bets. Just found you but love your videos. Is this a home table? If so, what layers do you have under the felt? What is the bottom made out of (plywood, slate, etc)?
What if you play field and 7 only?... simple chase times 4. Both bets the same increasing amount unless you hit a field, in which case you bet the same as last on the 7. Let the field bet ride. If it wins, you start over with whatever win or loss you have. If it loses, just continue the chase on both sides. Lose four times - start again with an increase of one unit - same simple chase (1,2,3,4 or lose 1,3,6,10 ×2 = 20). Run that same progression four times, increasing by one unit each time.
I think this is the first Doey-Don't strategy played out on this channel. I like the flexibility of playing the Pass and Don't sides, but to Martingale on it a tough one. I'd like to see a Martingale on 100x Odds tables though. I also shared with you my Doey-Don't 3 Point Molly variation which is my favorite way to play now.
I agree with Jeremy nurse this would be a good start to go for a long video on maybe thirty minutes, but keep in mind that once you hit the profit use the winning to equal out your bankroll , otherwise you’ll be in a perpetual loop of agony lol
Does either the pass or don't pass line have a better chance to win than the other on the come out roll? I was just wondering, since the first bet will be a wash, if one has a higher probability to win, why not start with a $15 bet on that line?
Pass has 8 ways to win and 4 ways to lose on come out roll. But after point set, pass line is always at disadvantage. Don’t pass is opposite, 3 ways to win and 8 ways to lose on come out, but after point set always has the advantage of winning.
when you are at your profit goal. You only bet the one that is behind until it wins. I know this strat pretty well and have never lost with it. The reason he says win $50 and move is two things 1 as you stated avoid a long losing streak and 2 casinos don't like profiteering grinders. so small to moderate wins are ok but don't overstay your welcome especially if it's busy.
Once every 205 "sessions" is pretty good odds. I have played this out over 400 times. I have only lost the bank roll twice and (and if you have a large enough bankroll your odds go way up. With $10K there has to be 11 losses, staggering odds). So it seems to match up with the "205" pretty well. However; I used a $10 table giving me only 7 consecutive losses and it will work to earn my $5-600 a day. If you modify it and stop at say $75 ($150 is a little better) and start over you can usually make back the loss pretty quick and keep going without the need of a $2380 bankroll and "nail biting" rolls.
Next table? What if your casino is a small one and they only have 2 tables? With only one working. Do you just pocket the $50 and start again or continue on?
Switching tables, would fall under superstition in my opinion, there is no magical force at a new table. I think he uses that just as a form of bankroll management.
Hi Color up. At level 5 you are stuck at earning 20 so to bump up the pass line on a 12 roll you give back your previous earnings and that is self defeating ,no reason to.
Is it me or Betting on both pass and don’t pass is the dumbest thing. Can it be done by rotating pass and don’t pass. For example if you bet 5 on don’t pass and 15 on pass, you should just bet 10 on pass.
I enjoy your videos. Do you have an email address so I can send you a strategy to try? It's a hybrid of a couple of strategies you have shown. It has been quite successfull.
GOOD INFO FOR YOU I LIVE IN LAS VEGAS AND BET AT THE REDROCK CASINO AND I AM A SUCCESSFUL 45 YEAR SPORTS BETTOR AND I USED THIS OVER AT RED ROCK ONE TIME ON A REAL TABLE AND AFTER THE FIRST 50 DOLLAR TABLE THEY SEEN THE METHOD ALREADY AND I CAN'T PLAY THAT THERE ANY MORE
I think switching tables is playing the math. the best bet on the table is the don't pass the second is the pass so those are the only bets you make. a pass or don't pass only happens 8 times in a row once every 8-9 hrs. By switching tables, there is a better chance of missing the 8 times in a row.
Once you made your 50 and you are just trying to break even to walk away and keep the profits, why would you keep playing both? Wouldn't you play the one side, break even and walk with the profits?
So I hate this system on its face. Hedging systems always lose, but, I would like to see you throw it with a twist. $10 table. 4k bankroll Progression is 10,30,90,250,500,1000,2000 That's keeps you in normal $10 table. Play till $250 win then run. Sure, I can email it! Thanks for the response
dear collor up. I play in Oklahoma and haft to pay 1 dollar per come out roll. how can I still collor up with a this dollar eating up my bank roll. Any advices?
I don't know the math on how the $1 ante affects the House Edge, but it stinks. I don't have any suggestions to offset it specifically, you just have to win enough to cover it, and stay away from the prop bets which is almost as bad as throwing money away like the ante. I lived in Dallas for one year, visited winstar, saw it had cards and $1 ante and walked out. I travel a lot so I can walk away, I feel for you if thats your only opportunity. Louisiana is a better option for Texas folk.
The problem is that eventually the 8 losses in a row will happen due to the odds. And it will most likely happen before you double you bankroll. The casino still wins. It is just a long drawn out close to 50/50 bet. You may as well play the roulette wheel this way.
Sure, all casinos games lose in the end, but roulette has over 5% casino edge, while the line bets in craps is about 1.5% so you will lose money at slower rate playing craps.
I just used this strategy at a 5 dollar table. I had a 200 bank roll. I won 75 dollars. Maybe could have been more but this casino only had 2 crap tables. As a new player I got scared after I switched to the second table and stopped after my third win.
@@andrewgallant4157 It would be a "martingale" type strategy yes, but not what the author is proposing, he is adding a hedge to it, and making it a little different. You certainly could just keep raising your bet on the Pass, until it wins...or you run out of money or hit the table limit.
@@andrewgallant4157 No it wouldn't be the same as the strategy walks at 50 dollars profit, on average you walk earlier using strategy then independent. It is generally excepted that you can only win in the short term, thus, this strategy supports a shorter term then independent strategy...thus this strategy might be one in your tool kit that you may only use several times over a gambling season hoping that in the short term you don't hit the inevitable landslide loss, in this case strategy can work for you.
What happens is you are making money on the other line with a Level 1 Bet the entire time you are losing on the other. By Doubling the last bet and adding your original Level 1 bet, you will actually end up winning on both lines at the same time. It's like playing two games simultaneously. Every time it changes from Pass to Don't Pass you are earning roughly $10 per level on a $5 table and $20 per Level/Change on a $10 table.
tested it on a free craps app seems pretty decent, but from my experience the ass line at my local casinos is garbage usually streaks of 7ing out happen more then 8 times in a row
Its not just your local ass line, all casinos hit those streaks and ultimately the downfall of this type strategy. Watch out for those apps, Im not sure how random their "random number generators" are.
One thing you have to remember is that this system isn't about how many times in a row that you 7 out. It counts the 7-Eleven wins on the come out roll and the two three wins on the don't pass.
I watched this with some disbelief. Martingaling on the pass and don't pass simultaneously, when you could just martingale the field bets at a 4% house edge (before 2 or 12), or go find a single zero La Partage roulette table for 1.31% house edge. I shake my head.
This doesn't work because of the come out 7's. I played this morning in Reno and hit 3 points AND 3 come out 7's. That would be 6 straight losses on the don't come. The chances of hitting 6 points is very low, but the come out 7 passline winner can kill your bank roll quick.
That's why he has you play to 8 loses, not 6. Did you throw a 2 or 3 on the come out for a Don't Pass Win? My next assumption would be that you didn't hit your fourth point, because you didn't mention it, which would have meant a 7 Out and a Don't Pass Line win.
it sure does. I loss 10 times in a roll ,playing the don't. I was using another system. I was down around 500. my husband refused to let my system play out. He pulled me off the table.
Have you seen the craps strategy from Kerrywsmyth? He says you can potentially win 4000 from 300 using the Dont come strategy after the come out roll. He hedged his bets and uses interesting come bets to max his odds. Please tell us what you think of his strategy.
I wonder how this method will play out if you place the bets on the Come and Don’t Come, instead of the Pass and Don’t Pass. Or maybe place Buy and Lay bets on Shooter’s point or any other number after a point is established.
For the first 4 loses, you "double and add one unit" One unit equals $5 so.. First bet is $5, if you lose, you "double $5 and add one unit" which equals $15. if you lose a second time, now you "double $15 and add one unit of $5" which equals $35. hope this helps
@@ColorUp Thanks for the reply. Post covid I am just now thinking about doing cruise trips with other senior couple friends and thought craps on the boat offered more of a control your own destiny if you were gambling on board and so I am going through all your videos. Getting quite an education. I genuinely appreciate your sample play and accepting whatever outcome happens even if your sample resulted in net loss. That “warts and all” approach gives you so much more credibility over other craps channels imho.
Good video I do not trust this method. I played it a bunch on a craps app - I always eventually won, but several times I was betting at the $300 level. That ment I had bet $575 so far for a chance to make a $25 profit. I would rather have played the pass line with single odds 57 times than this method 6 times. With proper money management I am guessing I would be ahead a lot more than $25 after a $575 investment. Like any other martingale based system, it will work if you have the bankroll and guts to play it. I definitely do not.
this method is not for the scared , and you must have the bankroll on the one time you loose in the month, plus you are going to loose that much or more in a month at craps anyway, if you are playing wishing for luck.
If there is proof to be said about coming over the top to eventually win, it's the fact that the casinos learned to set maximums. The key to a strategy is that a scenario will likely covert within a "reasonable" bankroll. This guy tells your from the beginning. The bankroll is your tool to be successful. Otherwise you can play the ways that you want to play as if it was a ticket for entertainment. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes it's just the fun of playing. I'd rather win.
Michael Wilkes numbers would be a little different, he says to double and add a unit for first three bets, then just double so...10, 30, 70, 150...or you can start at $15 and use the numbers I listed in video
Another way that I modified this for a $10 table was to start with your minimum of $10 and then instead of doubling it plus the original bet going to $30, just go ahead and make the level 2 bet $20. Then after that you can double it plus your "theoretical" $5. $10, 20, 45, 100, 200, 400, 800, $1,600. I have had much success playing only to seven levels worth of a bankroll. So I would play with about $2,400. $10, 30, 70, 150, 300, 600, 1,200. I would just watch what the last line win was and start betting on the other line with the $10. You are always playing the come out roll.
The only way to justify playing like that is to field bet or bet on midnight or any craps or the horn or anything covering the 12 whenever there's equal more (especially more) on the don't than the pass.
I dont understand. If passline wins let's say. Why would you bet don't pass next ? Shouldn't it be pass again if passline wins. This system you doing confusing
Sorry you find it confusing. “Shouldn’t it be pass again” there is no should or shouldn’t in the game, you can play however you want. In this particular strategy he increases the losing bet each time with the theory eventually the streak will fail, and the losing bet that has been pressed up will win.
I do this system in my home town but don't increase my bet more than $75. It takes a long time to reach $500 and is not a strategy if your looking for fast action( It's boring) . There are better strategies out there if you're looking for fast quick cash.
You'll win at any game if drunk. Have a driver or stay over. Why you think Harrahs has that commercial saying don't drink. No no no. I never see boozers lose. Best with roulette cards and craps. Keep in mind don't be loud or start trouble. Reach the plane that wins. Drink up.
hey there i was banned because i played all 4 of their tables and won a bunch of money and they just said i couldn't play anymore---you know al kaufman method is banned in most casinos to let you know---when the crap table people see you lay money on the pass and don't pass they know they are in trouble if you win little money on each table and you will never failed me yet
KENNETH BARNEYCASTLE pass and don’t pass at same time is not allowed in some casinos, but I believe allowed in most. They allow because they still have edge and will win players money eventually no matter how they play.
Actually I have had pretty good luck with this one at wizard of odds game mode..... Haven't taken it to a table yet though...probably get my but kicked....lol Anyway have you tested Al Kaufmans 444 strategy? I think that one would take some pretty big balls. Kaufman uses this same count method for his craps system... Except he says to leave the table after you win a hand nd move to the next table...
This method reminds me of a man I saw last year who only bet the pass line. he would double and triple until he wins and then pulling the bet down to minimum once he won. Kind of boring but he was the only one making money.
Hey Jeremy this Ohio Mikel ,everybody seems to want you to play this strategy a little longer, do it for four rolls , or more ,and see what happens, maybe you and my buddy Let It Roll can collaborate on his bigger table to see what happens, if you can get to the 500 a day suggested in Al's method.
You played it great! But lets be honest its a slightly modified martingale and anybody whose played that HAS experienced the top bet which causes vommiting and illness win or not. Its a scary ass way to win $50 every 30min or so.
I had a guy go crazy after seeing this, but I warned him that it's just a fun example of being ridiculous, cause if 12 happens on the coming out it's probably not worth losing that 30 on the pass for no reason other than to win 1 to 3 dollars on the point number. I thought I was slick and then after maybe winning 10 or 11 times in a row a buck a point number, I ended up seeing 12 on the coming out a few times and it turned out to be fun but not worth it. I like it to demonstrate a quick cheap win though.
I absolutely love this strategy and have colored up every time
I utilize the horn on the come out on the don't side and lay on the 4 and 10 on the pass line side...
I never go to the 150 if I do loose the seventy five I take it as a loss and drip down to 35 again ....it has worked better than All The other strategys on your channel..
Absolutely love what you're doing keep up the great work
Glad to hear its worked for you so far, and thanks for watching all my videos!
@@ColorUp headed to Vegas in 7 days for vacation with my dad looking forward to the Fremont and downtown was wondering what is your favorite system for method to this awesome game
interesting variation of the system, what do you do if you loss the second 35 bet? go back up 75 or move to another table.
Just came back from Vegas. Never left the table in the negatives. It took me a long time but winning is winning
Rian good time with winning as a bonus
Yep, this system worked for me +1700 last week at Aria. I think it's best to move tables after a give amount or time so that you don't get emotionally attached to the dealers or the other players. I seemed to get cough in the emotions of playing all the pass lines and side bets... I would change the view after about $250 or so. You can win if you stick with the Strat.
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Yes change tables after 100
Love this strategy... problem is I’m down 2,280 lol
Sam Lee yikes :) that can and will eventually happen
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So it not lightning in a bottle kinda deals.
love the system ---play at rampart now and suncoast for the 50 dollars on 6 tables a day takes about one hour 1/2 and also a professional sports bettor and baccarat player--been doing this for 45 years i hope u are successful too
Bet the Packers against the Bears for everything you've got. This is straight from the TOP.
By the way... You do a very good job and seem like a very sincere individual in helping others.
Thank you, I try
8 consecutive losses occur approximately once in every 205 sessions.
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With a session equaling 50 dollars in winnings
205×$50=$10,250-$2,380=$7870...that is some good profit!
@@donnydice2460 If that was really the math everyone would do it.
I would just martingale the odds on the pass line you win a lot more a lot quicker
That sounds awesome 👌 👏
Recently found and enjoying your videos. You can simplify this easily as making opposing bets is not necessary. Either pick whichever side you like on the first come out roll after you get to the table, or wait for the first outcome and start betting on the opposite side. either way, just double the bet if you lose, instead of doubling plus one and betting one unit on the other side and if you win, switch sides and start at one unit. The math is exactly the same without the need to bother placing two bets each time.
I believe I did the math on this once before. I think the only reason he has you bet both lines is so that you can more easily count your winnings up to the $50 before changing tables.
I eventually stopped betting both lines and I just wait for the outcome before I start my first bet.
Yea this is one of his most awful videos , if never played craps your thinking you can play pass / no pass at same time ..... Probably be easier if he just puts the best out individually ahead of time . ( If this is a demonstration , do the chips need to be racked ? ) ... How hard is just to lay out bets 5 , 15 , 35 , 75 , & so on ........ Man this was frustrating , hey win 500 a day ' than explanation was just clumsy , & confusing asf ! Why ???? So put 5 on not pass , if lose put 15 on pass & keep flip flopping ? If hit on first bet , stay at 5 ? & Flip or not flip not pass / pass ??????
Actually you can play both sides at same time. Not really a benefit though. This is a recreation of someone’s idea. I believe he bet both sides to start with to “determine” a trend. (Something I don’t believe in) nevertheless that’s the system. Thanks for checking out.
Ok , was typing during video than came back & did the math 2 or 3 times ! Than understood what he was saying , no flip flop , bet one side an raise until you win .... Ok good video , was hard to understand at first bc there was so much yak action ' up down left right .... Came back at end of video an seen just stay on one side ... Yes if it's hitting this is excellent
So far so good. Played around for 30 minutes on a simulator and divided it into 7 intervals. 1st: $90; 2nd, 3rd and 6th: $55 each, 4th: $195 (went to $600 before getting a front line winner on pass) and 5th: $130 (kept getting 12's on come out rolls). I am a random roller though, so I wonder if a dice control shooter (if you believe in that, no opinion either way for me) might scew the actual results. Another interesting strategy...Great job on all your vlogs
Tim McClain yeah it can work but $600 on simulation is scary enough, with real money....not for me :) thanks for watching
Just got back from Dover for a day trip to place some money at the new sportsbook and tried it out (had to use my pony money for bankroll). Made a little over $1150 total in 2 sessions of 4 hours each and will try again next time I go up there. There were some wild swings of a $600 dont that finally hit to a the next series of a $600 pass line (2 stinking 12's on the comeout roll twice) that had my heart pounding.
Tim McClain heart pounding but you colored up! Awesome
I've actually played something like this before, but it made sense when I did it because I'd have place bets up to counteract my don't bets, with money also on the pass, it hurts on the coming out if 12 happens, but if not, after the coming out, there's 100% ways to win since the place bets pay more than the don't, and the don't pays more than the place bets cost minus losing the pass. For example, I'd have 36 on the don't and 30 on the pass, with a 5 dollar place bet up on the point number. It basically is a no 12 on the coming out strategy, prob not worth the risk, but it's super fun after the coming out cause you can only win a buck lol no matter what happens after a number is established. You either lose the 6 on the don't and win 7 on the place or 9 (4 or 10) or you lose the 5 on the place but win the 6 on the don't. 😅Sometimes I would also put increments of say 35 on the don't with 30 on the pass, and after a point number is established I would (unwisely) give up my advantage of 5 on the don't by removing 5 from the don't, now with 30 on both pass and don't the same, and just make a place bet on the number 😉 and maybe even 1 buck on the hardways on a hardways number, like 36 to start on the don't with 30 on the pass, then after the point establishes, take the 6 off the don't put 1 on the hardway and the other 5 on the point, as to simply play to root on the shooter.
I realized later on I'm ridiculously losing on the pass when the 12 comes up, so I realized that if I wanna play like that, I can just put increments of 6 on the don't and nothing on the pass, only risking the coming out being 7 or 11, no longer afraid of the 12, and now, I just place 5 on the point number, or 6 on a 6 or 8, guaranteed to break even or win a buck. Awesome of course on 4 or 10, but no need to fear the 12 now. This is a really fun way to play for a long time at a table with minimal risk, it's more for having fun and lasting a long time just playing to socialize and have fun without losing a lot of money fast. Often times, it can even be combined with other strategies and bets to recoup losses and still leave a winner small or not, but always feels good to win a few bucks rather than leave broke. I'd love a chance for my strategy to be showed in a video, although I'm sure something similar has already been put out there. On a point 4 or 10, I love to take a buck a hardway it, breaks even on the 7 out, but if the point hits the easy way, I win 2 bucks, and on the hardway I win 12 bucks
On my way to go play craps now lol... I've seen this before but I haven't tried it before... this is usually my bank roll but only in Vegas you can play that much.
Tech MD RUclips good luck on coloring up!
I did 1900 up! Lol I used Strategy but got bored LOL
Tech MD RUclips not sure how winning money is boring haha, but I get it it, there isn’t much to do on this strategy except wait
I win high $700 to mid $800 playing the pass & don’t, but is done a lot quicker than this. My way is after establishing a point 4,5,9, or 10( don’t play the 6, or 8), you only need two rolls & get out. 90% chance of winning
great, if you want you can send your strategy to colorupcraps@gmail.com and maybe I will roll it here on colorup
Would love to hear more of this as well
Color Up what I do is start off playing the 1k on the don’t & the pass, I then play $35 on the hard 12, $1 on snake eyes, 3 on the yo, & 3. I also put $10 on any 7. This is done to mainly protect the 1k on the don’t. I roll, & if I land on the 6, or 8 I just lay a $5 odd on the don’t. If the number is 4, 5, 9, or 10 I play. If the # is 5 or 9 I make bets of, $225 on the 4, & 10. I put $300 on the 9, & 350 on the 6, & 8. I leave the place # which in this case is 5 empty. I put 3k on odds on the don’t. Since I’m one of these guys that need something to happen all the time I also put $6 on the 12, & snake eyes, 7 on the 3 & yo. Now every time I roll I will win $. Now here is the key, I only roll twice, 3 times if one of those roll land on the yo, snake eyes, 3, or hard 12. The only way I lose is if it hits the place # in which I lose the odds on the don’t. Even if I hit a 7 I win about $400 bucks. After I roll twice I bring everything down including the odds on the don’t. I then just place a $5 bet on the odds on the don’t just to end the game. As you can see there is a lot of $ out there but it’s just hedging bets. I do not play on the 6 or 8 because they can come up way too easy. I hope this helps someone.
..PS, you can adjust your amount the system is the same, I just know how much I want to make in no more than 2 rolls.
I need a video of this strategy because reading it is messing with my brain lol
I use this strategy every time I go to Vegas. I go with the mindset that it's OK if I lose the entire bankroll. I have yet to lose a session with it. I am well over double my bankroll. I play for an hour or so each night while in Vegas and walk away with $200+. I then use my winnings to have a good time on the town the next day. Dinner, a show, zipline on the Rio, High roller ferris wheel. Love this strategy because so far it has paid for my Vegas fun.
Its great while it works, until it doesn't, as long as you can afford the loses. Vegas fun is the best kind of fun
I have a $5500 bankroll I gamble with that is compromised of 2 years worth of BJ winnings. I have always been intrigued by craps but was too intimidated by it to get into a game (Mostly in AC). I started reading and watching this channel and some others. I have a practice layout and I am building my confidence slowly and learning different plays. I'm not a large bettor despite my bankroll. I began going to bubble craps but in AC bubble games won't allow this system. Over the last 2 months on 4 trips in I finally began play at real tables. I will confess, I began using this method only because it was very simple. My 4 visits have yielded : $130, $190, $90, and $110. Only 1 time (my second game) I ever got to the $300 bet level. I shoot for 50-100 bucks and then I'm outta there. I have yet to stand more than 45 minutes at a table during a session. Over the long term or a long stay at any table you will most likely loose a lot.
Blue Star Industrial Arts this strategy will work for awhile , but when it doesn’t, look out
@@ColorUp Oh I'm aware of that. Thats why I watch your channel, you explain the methods very good makes it easier to learn. I'm a very disciplined gambler...If I Ever exceeded a $500 loss in this method I would not make the next bet. I couldnt live with myself for wiping out 2 yrs+ worth of work at the card tables. If I can get to a point where I can apply different strategies and mix things up I will probably still leave by about 250 in profits. I HATE giving them back their money!!!! Id rather nurse a beer and listen to some shitty band in the bar.
Blue Star Industrial Arts Sounds like you have the perfect approach...you’ve had success at BJ, why stop? Or just trying new things?
@@ColorUp I still play BJ, but I always liked the atmosphere at the dice tables and from what I am reading, if you learn your stuff and stick with it, you have better odds at the Craps table then at BJ. I've played at BJ tables four hours before winning $100 sometimes. Other times, I'm ahead a few hundred in 30 minutes. The BJ tables...well ALL of the table games in AC get quite crowded, there are always players whining if you don't bet the way they expect you to which I go "off base" from time to time and usually do ok. And yes, getting kind of boring being ONLY BJ for a decade or so.....I tried Roulette once, fuggetttaboutit!! So I'm kind of excited about foray into a game that 4 months ago, I knew nothing about. It's a good trip if ya can mix up the action, have fun, and walk away with even a little of the Casino's money in your pocket. I like craps....Old School type game.
Man I can’t believe you didn’t play to $500! I was so wanting to see the other sessions played. Love your vids man, I can’t wait to get back to the casino to try this & the iron cross lol. It may be , but would love to see this again at a super slow speed with more explanation
Know, Survive & live glad you liked this one, I can’t roll all sessions unless you want hours plus long video
I thought i saw every strategy in craps but this is one ive never seen or heard about. It looks like a decent strategy but because its a martingale light strategy it does pose a possible big loss scenario but it wasnt difficult for you to win over a hundred dollars in short order. If people can learn to quit while they are ahead i can see this working by giving you alot of small wins and the occasional big loss. good video keep up the good work.
Silver Hunter yeah it has potential, for me personally I would set my stop loss well before $1200 though
Color Up strictly on the math and probability if you cut short of 8 levels you still have a big chance of winning, but the probability of losing is greater not taking it so deep. Here are the probabilities of losing either side only going this total number of rolls:
1 = 51.41 % chance to lose and loss = $5
2 = 26.43 % and $20 loss
3 = 13.59 % and $55 loss
4 = 6.99 % and $130 loss
5 = 3.59 % and $280 loss
6 =. 1.84 % and $580 loss
7 =. 0.95 % and $1180 loss
8 = 0.49 % and $2380 loss (the bankroll)
This is the percentage of losing on N consecutive attempts on Pass or Don’t Pass without a win to end the hand. For random, losing on 8 attempts will occur 0.49% of the time, or less than 5 times in 1000 attempts. If you only want your stop loss to be the $300 betting level ($580 total loss) you have only a 1.84% chance of losing and not making a win in 6 consecutive attempts on either Pass or Don’t Pass. You still win over 98% of the time if you’re willing to risk $600 total stop loss or even over 96% of the time if $150 bet and $280 total loss is your stop loss level. If you’re betting the $150 level and losing, you have actually lost $280 ($150 plus the prior bets of $5, $15, $35, and $75). Where do you think you’d balance yourself - what level playing this method?
Chris Wiseman great job with this! Personally I never like to lose more than $100, but I think I would take this strategy to level 6 to get down to 1.84%, seems pretty reasonable
Silver Hunter casino always has the edge on random but most think they can make a big killing in a nearly 50/50 game. Small win discipline with a stop loss discipline is what can yield long term better results with a good method. This is a method that works on the small edges but only expecting small gains.
Silver Hunter I think Al Kaufman said to play 10 sessions (?) per visit. He says you should be able to play a month and probably receive only one loss. When the bets get up there it does look scary.
After all you've learned about craps, I'd LOVE to see a video on: "A Trip To Vegas"....It doesn't have to be shot in Vegas, just a run down on how you initially approach your first table...."take it's temperature" (if you do that) and how (what methodology/"system") you start your playing......please.
Ken Lumley really appreciate your curiousity, but it’s not that interesting ha. I walk in with idea of strategy I will work into after some conservative play such as 6/8. As far as picking table, no temp, just not too full or empty, and $5 :)
What's wrong with empty? I find they fill up pretty quickly anyway, no matter where or what time of day.
Great video. I would have honestly loved to see you play this out a little longer.
Same
jeremy nurse maybe I will in another video! Thanks
I can tell you with much experience playing this strategy for nearly 3 months almost 5 days a week, the way to play this is to take no more than 5 wins.
All strategies will take losses, but if you stay and play every single opportunity, the losses will "find you".
The 72hr book of live rolls is a great way to test this guys strategies. And the concept of changing tables is easy to witness when using this book.
If you play the book straight through, the losses will find you. If you simply take a set of dice and you roll them to establish a page number to start on and then roll them again to establish what shooter you're going to start with, on that page, you can do this over and over and over and potentially never land on one of the losses in the book.
That's the concept. Take an improbable situation, not impossible, and plug in for a short time. It has been very successful.
Yes and no . They keep changing the color of the dices and the weight feels different . I can get into the grove when start out but when the dice comes back to he it’s hard to get back into . But I start off with 60-100 bucks and in my first roll I usually stack it to 300-500 in my first roll after that it’s hard to win any more after that for some reason but I walk away a winner from 60-75 percent when I play
so you are winning from 200-400 on your first roll...consistently? why don't you make a career out of it?
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Al is saying it is a method not a strategy because you should win most of the time, and don't try it without at least 2400$ bank roll ,which is great if you got that kind of cash on hand, but I would teak it, I would never go pass the 150 level , go back to level 1 until the streak goes in your favor, it is just illogical to risk 2400 for a 50 dollar profit.
you might win the whole 500 on 1 table.
I had to look up in dictionary but method and strategy mean basically the same thing.
Certainly could and I wouldn't change tables if I continued to win.
color up will you please give me a method or strategy for that pop up craps at the Hollywood casino Columbus Ohio, check it out and let me know the next time you come home to Ohio , so you show me how play it, their system is automated , the dice are bubble every 25 sec.yes but I think method means more of a guaranteed result, strategy seems that their is more volatility on the out come of the results , just like war strategies of the unknown, you might be a hero and make, or the unseen might get you, but with a tried and true method most of your men make it home safe 9 out of 10 times , unless something happens and you don't follow the rules of the method, and the you are vulnerable to lose your bank roll also.Thanks for the shout back
What about placing a 5 dollar bet on the 12 on the come out roll. Similar to a craps check
Scott Shaffer sure if you like
Risk an extra $5 for each come out roll? How about $1? Pays 30 to 1 so that's still good. Or do you mean only bet the $5 on 12 when you're in a lot of money on the don't pass?
This method might work many times for you at home with your dice and simulated craps table. But, when you are at the billion dollar facility that has eyes everywhere monitoring all patrons, and sophisticated electronics that ensure that the billion dollar resort maintains the edge. Then you will soon discover how often your unlikely eight losses in a row might occur.
They might allow you to win for a while, maybe for quite a while. Then, your mind is trained to think this is easy way to make money. You like that, and perhaps scale up bets a bit to get better return. Then you experience the unlikely long losing streak. So now 50 wins needed to make this up. You win for a while, but not quite 50 in a row, then another long losing streak, and must win 50 to make up that. You win a few more times, then amazingly you have another long losing streak. Now, you must win over 100 times to make up losses. You then reflect, and think of all of the enjoyable ways you could have used the money you loss, and time you wasted on a system that never had a chance of working.
It's all math, the casino holds a slight edge on every bet and will eventually win.
Call it math, whatever you want to call it. If you bet a significant amount of money, the casino will get it.
Best martingale strategy would be to bet columns on roulette. Bet 2 columns ,minimal bet, get paid 3 to 1. But because you always lose one column bet, payment is 3 to 2. If you lose, then bet $50 per column. If lose again, go to $300 per column. If lose that, then $1000 per column. If lose that, then go home.
Chose a table preferably loaded with other very active players, with people covering many numbers particularly 0. Also, best to play at single 0 table.
Place one of your bets on column that last landed, in case number repeats.
Place other bet of equal amount on column just before no more bets is announced. Waiting until last few seconds to place that second bet gives me piece of mind that any electronic control of where ball lands, less likely to occur, though it still may.
Play at a casino like BELLAGIO where betting $2000 on roulette is not that big a deal.
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I like how the chips are covering the P on the Pass line. hahahaha! Ass line
What? must just be accident :)
My ass♡
hes sayin youre an ass if you gamble. risking 2380 to win 500 is stupid
@@frankystrings Exactly. How about $100-$200 instead ? Enough for me. The greedy hog is always slaughtered 1st here in Vegas.
I always do that since the first day I played
I've been using WinCraps to run this strategy and see how it does. I call 8 losses in a row a "bust".
I run the simulation until I get 100 busts and then add the data to my analysis. So far I have run about 2.25 million rolls over 14 sessions, so 1,400 busts. I am only doing this on the DON'T side as it seems that it loses less often than the PASS side.
So far the average bust takes about 1,600 rolls. But I have seen a bust in as few as 11 rolls (!) and as many as 11,222 rolls. It seems that roughly half of your wins come back-to-back, without any intervening losses. The progression roughly halves going forward (25% of wins come after one loss, 12.7% of wins come after 2 losses, 6.5% of wins come after 3 losses, etc.). For every 1000 wins, you will see 8.4 losses. I’ll share more data as it develops.
Interesting stuff. Thanks for running this.
I appreciate your videos because you stay pretty objective most of the time testing things out but do also share your thoughts.
I try to be objective, there is no magic formula, all strategies win sometimes, but none win all the time
The problem is 12 kills both bets on the come out roll. And what's the point in starting out with the same amount of $ on the pass and don't pass? Why not just start out on the pass and if you lose you start your progressive bet and then put 5 on the Don't pass?
Very interesting. I'd agree with the other comments, I'd like to see this rolled out a bit more. Thanks!
Ok, thanks for the input. Maybe I will revisit it.
I've always been very interested in the professors methods , but like you said, lots of risk , but then again, maybe just a hundred a day might be a more feasible way to work this strategy. He has another wild system im sure you're familiar with the "444" I'd be interested in seeing you roll that one out . You rock man, keep the great content coming. Peace and Love from Massachusetts.as always Good luck on COLORING UP :D
Not sure I'll do that one, over $5000 on the fourth level, ouch...Ill take another look though, maybe
Yeah I wouldn't suggest it. Guys a madman
hedge betting the 12 would offset the loss on high pass line bets. would negate any wins but better than a huge loss.
Every system can be good for a short time, but eventually will lose. I think that the best way to win is to have 4-5 different systems in mind. Play one untill you have a set amount (not too big, but not too small) and then switch system (and maybe table/game) and try another system again. And most importantly, don't play too long. The odds will catch you
Great points
you say they’re independent bets but you gotta pair them up and never bet against the one leveling up. this is why the bank roll is 2380 and not double that.
i’ve tried it in “simulations” and craps apps. works well enough. biggest butt pucker i’ve seen is hitting a lot of sevens on the come out and leveling your don’t pass over and over.
other than that gotta watch for the max bet to be 1200+
i’d like to try it once I can safely assume that risk. might even adjust it depending on the max bet allowed. modifications would be like adding a unit at each level after four and charting out the levels beyond 8.
thanks cu
Dan
Love your videos. I've actually used your strategies myself. You've even inspired me to create my own gambling vlogs on my channel. Thanks for the great content.
DJACOBS77 I’ve been watching, keep em coming!
Its the Professor! Yeah, Al Kauphman. I use it for blackjack and I have tripled a 2500 fictitious bank roll. I went bust about 3 times but don't forget you make some along the way. So, Yeah, if you get hammered 8 in a row you loose it.
Moving table to table, helps keep focus. Craps players are known not to take breaks or move around.
Cary Rohan sounds logical, thanks
I usually go through my strategy based bankroll, and take a break at the blackjack table
It also "resets" the count by going back to $5 each making it slightly less likely to miss that eighth time.
You nailed it!! It does nothing to change the math, but it DOES help you stay focused. I used to like casino hopping up and down the boardwalk in AC and winning $50 at each place before half the joints closed down. Now that the Taj and Revel are reopened under different names, I'm seriously considering doing it again. It really was a lot of fun and the challenge was exciting as I neared the last casino on any particular run. Plus, my odds of success increased as the day went on - started with $5000 vs trying to win 50. At the 2nd place, I now have 5050 trying to win 50, etc. There's a nice, less risky $500 (back when there were 10 casinos on the boardwalk). Stop halfway through and have a nice steak or a reuben, YEAH!!!
Do you think it would be beneficial to just play one of the bets instead of both at the same time? That way you are not losing every time you have a winner.
Matlock Perkins yes :)
If independent games, it really doesn’t matter. With both, you’re winning $5 on the small side each time your leveling up for the win in the increasing level side. The bankroll takes care of itself.
For example, you decide to play only Pass Line game by itself - you lost the $5, $15, and $35 bets and are betting $75 to win $20 and recoup your bankroll. Win $20 in 4 hands. If you had played DP for $5 on each of those 4 hands, you win 3 times and are only down the last $5 for the DP base bet in the bankroll. Same 4 hands, net $15 quicker. In this example, +$35 in 4 hands to the profit side playing both versus only $20 profit playing just Pass Line alone.
Chris Wiseman perfect answer, thanks for adding
It would be interesting if you did video of you having 50 wins. I know it would take you forever to do but just to test out would be very interesting maybe you do it and speed up the video for time purposes. Thanks again I would love to come test out some strategies with you sometime!
Matlock Perkins this strategy should lose about 5 in 1000 times if rolls are random. That’s a loss of $2380 five times or $11900. If you win 995 times in 1000 you have to get better than a $10 payoff, or a $15 payoff, per win on average to earn a profit long term. If you only average winning level 1 and 2 you will actually lose over every 1000 attempts. $9550-$11900=$2350 loss. However if your wins are level 3 and above wins on average you should net at least $14925-11900=$3025 or more over 1000 attempts.
Color Up doesn’t have to roll it out 50 times.
Hi, enjoy your videos. The major problem with this system are the table limits. A lot of tables have limits of $500-1000. If you get stuck on a bad situation where you've lost 6-7 bets in a row, you have hit the table limit. Then what do you do?. They have the table limits because of a Martingale betting system. Eventually, you lose everything!
Yep, exactly right
I have watched the betting method before. Do I like the method, yes and no? Yes in the fact that you have a good chance of hitting one out of eight. No in the fact that with dice I don't see myself using it. Now if you use the blackjack with his guidelines, then I think it works much better. Finally, changing tables etc...that is only done so you are not watched so closely in my opinion. If I am going to do this, play only for a few minutes at a time to pace myself, with all of the excitement going on, whether at dice or blackjack 10 15 minutes in one session take a break then come back. That's my opinion, and can you make 500 a day, I believe it's very possible. All in all, I like his betting method, more so for Blackjack rather than dice, and with discipline and a plan of action, 500 a day can be done.
thanks for your feedback.
I can only imagine buying in at a table for $2,380 and then putting down two $5 bets. Just found you but love your videos. Is this a home table? If so, what layers do you have under the felt? What is the bottom made out of (plywood, slate, etc)?
Plywood, and then under the microfiber craps layout is a standard felt material.
What if you play field and 7 only?... simple chase times 4. Both bets the same increasing amount unless you hit a field, in which case you bet the same as last on the 7. Let the field bet ride. If it wins, you start over with whatever win or loss you have. If it loses, just continue the chase on both sides. Lose four times - start again with an increase of one unit - same simple chase (1,2,3,4 or lose 1,3,6,10 ×2 = 20). Run that same progression four times, increasing by one unit each time.
I think this is the first Doey-Don't strategy played out on this channel. I like the flexibility of playing the Pass and Don't sides, but to Martingale on it a tough one. I'd like to see a Martingale on 100x Odds tables though.
I also shared with you my Doey-Don't 3 Point Molly variation which is my favorite way to play now.
I think you are right about this being the first doey-dont. I will be doing more.
I agree with Jeremy nurse this would be a good start to go for a long video on maybe thirty minutes, but keep in mind that once you hit the profit use the winning to equal out your bankroll , otherwise you’ll be in a perpetual loop of agony lol
Releks Drood ok thanks
Does either the pass or don't pass line have a better chance to win than the other on the come out roll? I was just wondering, since the first bet will be a wash, if one has a higher probability to win, why not start with a $15 bet on that line?
Pass has 8 ways to win and 4 ways to lose on come out roll. But after point set, pass line is always at disadvantage. Don’t pass is opposite, 3 ways to win and 8 ways to lose on come out, but after point set always has the advantage of winning.
when you are at your profit goal. You only bet the one that is behind until it wins. I know this strat pretty well and have never lost with it. The reason he says win $50 and move is two things 1 as you stated avoid a long losing streak and 2 casinos don't like profiteering grinders. so small to moderate wins are ok but don't overstay your welcome especially if it's busy.
Once every 205 "sessions" is pretty good odds. I have played this out over 400 times. I have only lost the bank roll twice and (and if you have a large enough bankroll your odds go way up. With $10K there has to be 11 losses, staggering odds). So it seems to match up with the "205" pretty well. However; I used a $10 table giving me only 7 consecutive losses and it will work to earn my $5-600 a day. If you modify it and stop at say $75 ($150 is a little better) and start over you can usually make back the loss pretty quick and keep going without the need of a $2380 bankroll and "nail biting" rolls.
Very Interesting, I would like to try it but also hear from anyone else that has tried this one...
I will give you a hint, this doesn't work on the Don't Pass...Why the 7 and 11 on the come out roll will destroy the doubling up after each loss...
Next table? What if your casino is a small one and they only have 2 tables? With only one working.
Do you just pocket the $50 and start again or continue on?
Switching tables, would fall under superstition in my opinion, there is no magical force at a new table. I think he uses that just as a form of bankroll management.
Great video. I have wanted to see this one for a while now. If I ever have $2380 lying around I will try it out.
Victor Ellin if I have 2380 laying around I’d go on a cruise vacation ha:)
You can try it on e-tables with lower minimums: 1, 3, 7, 15, 30, 60, 120, 240. Total: 476 units.
Great suggestion!
Hi Color up. At level 5 you are stuck at earning 20 so to bump up the pass line on a 12 roll you give back your previous earnings and that is self defeating ,no reason to.
Is it me or Betting on both pass and don’t pass is the dumbest thing. Can it be done by rotating pass and don’t pass. For example if you bet 5 on don’t pass and 15 on pass, you should just bet 10 on pass.
When you go in circles, you don’t get far :)
I enjoy your videos. Do you have an email address so I can send you a strategy to try? It's a hybrid of a couple of strategies you have shown. It has been quite successfull.
colorupcraps@gmail.com
Ok I'm curious what does the 12 do on the dont pass line?
Bar 12, means push or tie. You don't win or lose.
@@ColorUp However in this strategy it means you lose if a 12 is rolled as the pass line loses and don't pass pushes.
GOOD INFO FOR YOU I LIVE IN LAS VEGAS AND BET AT THE REDROCK CASINO AND I AM A SUCCESSFUL 45 YEAR SPORTS BETTOR AND I USED THIS OVER AT RED ROCK ONE TIME ON A REAL TABLE AND AFTER THE FIRST 50 DOLLAR TABLE THEY SEEN THE METHOD ALREADY AND I CAN'T PLAY THAT THERE ANY MORE
Thanks for the input.
I think switching tables is playing the math. the best bet on the table is the don't pass the second is the pass so those are the only bets you make. a pass or don't pass only happens 8 times in a row once every 8-9 hrs. By switching tables, there is a better chance of missing the 8 times in a row.
Im surprised every casino in the world doesnt have a statue of Martingale outside lol
Once you made your 50 and you are just trying to break even to walk away and keep the profits, why would you keep playing both? Wouldn't you play the one side, break even and walk with the profits?
Robert Douglas yeah I guess you could
So I hate this system on its face. Hedging systems always lose, but, I would like to see you throw it with a twist.
$10 table. 4k bankroll
Progression is
10,30,90,250,500,1000,2000
That's keeps you in normal $10 table. Play till $250 win then run.
Sure, I can email it! Thanks for the response
Osama bin laggin email it to me st colorupcraps@gmail.com
dear collor up.
I play in Oklahoma and haft to pay 1 dollar per come out roll. how can I still collor up with a this dollar eating up my bank roll. Any advices?
I don't know the math on how the $1 ante affects the House Edge, but it stinks. I don't have any suggestions to offset it specifically, you just have to win enough to cover it, and stay away from the prop bets which is almost as bad as throwing money away like the ante. I lived in Dallas for one year, visited winstar, saw it had cards and $1 ante and walked out. I travel a lot so I can walk away, I feel for you if thats your only opportunity. Louisiana is a better option for Texas folk.
The problem is that eventually the 8 losses in a row will happen due to the odds. And it will most likely happen before you double you bankroll. The casino still wins. It is just a long drawn out close to 50/50 bet. You may as well play the roulette wheel this way.
Sure, all casinos games lose in the end, but roulette has over 5% casino edge, while the line bets in craps is about 1.5% so you will lose money at slower rate playing craps.
I just used this strategy at a 5 dollar table. I had a 200 bank roll. I won 75 dollars. Maybe could have been more but this casino only had 2 crap tables. As a new player I got scared after I switched to the second table and stopped after my third win.
Could you do just one line. Either Pass line or don't pass line?
could, but that would change the strategy dramatically
Color Up sorry if I don’t understand, but if they are independent games even in this strategy, wouldn’t it be the same if you didn’t use one?
@@andrewgallant4157 It would be a "martingale" type strategy yes, but not what the author is proposing, he is adding a hedge to it, and making it a little different. You certainly could just keep raising your bet on the Pass, until it wins...or you run out of money or hit the table limit.
@@andrewgallant4157 No it wouldn't be the same as the strategy walks at 50 dollars profit, on average you walk earlier using strategy then independent. It is generally excepted that you can only win in the short term, thus, this strategy supports a shorter term then independent strategy...thus this strategy might be one in your tool kit that you may only use several times over a gambling season hoping that in the short term you don't hit the inevitable landslide loss, in this case strategy can work for you.
Why not just wait for a pass or don’t pass decision then play the opposite, until you win?
What happens is you are making money on the other line with a Level 1 Bet the entire time you are losing on the other.
By Doubling the last bet and adding your original Level 1 bet, you will actually end up winning on both lines at the same time. It's like playing two games simultaneously.
Every time it changes from Pass to Don't Pass you are earning roughly $10 per level on a $5 table and $20 per Level/Change on a $10 table.
tested it on a free craps app seems pretty decent, but from my experience the ass line at my local casinos is garbage usually streaks of 7ing out happen more then 8 times in a row
Its not just your local ass line, all casinos hit those streaks and ultimately the downfall of this type strategy. Watch out for those apps, Im not sure how random their "random number generators" are.
One thing you have to remember is that this system isn't about how many times in a row that you 7 out. It counts the 7-Eleven wins on the come out roll and the two three wins on the don't pass.
I watched this with some disbelief. Martingaling on the pass and don't pass simultaneously, when you could just martingale the field bets at a 4% house edge (before 2 or 12), or go find a single zero La Partage roulette table for 1.31% house edge. I shake my head.
Everyone has a different approach to the game.
Gonna try it tonight. Good luck
This doesn't work because of the come out 7's. I played this morning in Reno and hit 3 points AND 3 come out 7's. That would be 6 straight losses on the don't come. The chances of hitting 6 points is very low, but the come out 7 passline winner can kill your bank roll quick.
Yep, you have to count the come out rolls as well.
That's why he has you play to 8 loses, not 6. Did you throw a 2 or 3 on the come out for a Don't Pass Win? My next assumption would be that you didn't hit your fourth point, because you didn't mention it, which would have meant a 7 Out and a Don't Pass Line win.
It works great. Problem with my local casino is the betting limit of 500 max on the pass or dont pass
Like all martingale type systems, if your bankroll doesn't stop you the table limits will.
I’m gonna try this next time thx brotha 👍🏼
Be careful, 8 losses in a row does happen.
Color Up ok thx again
it sure does. I loss 10 times in a roll ,playing the don't. I was using another system. I was down around 500. my husband refused to let my system play out. He pulled me off the table.
aguawomen that’s a bad streak for sure
Have you seen the craps strategy from Kerrywsmyth? He says you can potentially win 4000 from 300 using the Dont come strategy after the come out roll. He hedged his bets and uses interesting come bets to max his odds. Please tell us what you think of his strategy.
I have made a video about it...I forget what it’s called but it’s on my channel somewhere, I think I used same title as him
I wonder how this method will play out if you place the bets on the Come and Don’t Come, instead of the Pass and Don’t Pass. Or maybe place Buy and Lay bets on Shooter’s point or any other number after a point is established.
The strategy relies on wins on the Come Out Roll, 7, 11. 2, 3 as well. I believe that is the main reason.
Sorry i don't understand .why did you up to 15~35?when? Plz help me
For the first 4 loses, you "double and add one unit" One unit equals $5 so.. First bet is $5, if you lose, you "double $5 and add one unit" which equals $15. if you lose a second time, now you "double $15 and add one unit of $5" which equals $35. hope this helps
How common are $5 tables that you want to change to get 20 sessions a day. You likely have to change venues as they likely only one $5 table if that.
Based on video years old, unrealistic to do today
@@ColorUp Thanks for the reply. Post covid I am just now thinking about doing cruise trips with other senior couple friends and thought craps on the boat offered more of a control your own destiny if you were gambling on board and so I am going through all your videos. Getting quite an education. I genuinely appreciate your sample play and accepting whatever outcome happens even if your sample resulted in net loss. That “warts and all” approach gives you so much more credibility over other craps channels imho.
@@royjaskowski905 I appreciate your feedback. Good luck 🍀 on the cruise ships 🚢 and have fun
Good video
I do not trust this method. I played it a bunch on a craps app - I always eventually won, but several times I was betting at the $300 level. That ment I had bet $575 so far for a chance to make a $25 profit. I would rather have played the pass line with single odds 57 times than this method 6 times.
With proper money management I am guessing I would be ahead a lot more than $25 after a $575 investment.
Like any other martingale based system, it will work if you have the bankroll and guts to play it.
I definitely do not.
john m martingales are perfect strategies...until you hit table limit or run out of money :)
Im with you controlled money management works amazing in the long run
this method is not for the scared , and you must have the bankroll on the one time you loose in the month, plus you are going to loose that much or more in a month at craps anyway, if you are playing wishing for luck.
If there is proof to be said about coming over the top to eventually win, it's the fact that the casinos learned to set maximums.
The key to a strategy is that a scenario will likely covert within a "reasonable" bankroll.
This guy tells your from the beginning. The bankroll is your tool to be successful. Otherwise you can play the ways that you want to play as if it was a ticket for entertainment. Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes it's just the fun of playing.
I'd rather win.
tried it with wizardofodds and right from the beginning had to bet 2400$ to win money back.so this one is not good at all.
At a $10 table would the only change be the initial pass/don’t bets?
Michael Wilkes numbers would be a little different, he says to double and add a unit for first three bets, then just double so...10, 30, 70, 150...or you can start at $15 and use the numbers I listed in video
Al suggest $4,700.00 for a $10 dollar table, that method gives nets you $1,000 a day at $100 a table at 10 tables.
Another way that I modified this for a $10 table was to start with your minimum of $10 and then instead of doubling it plus the original bet going to $30, just go ahead and make the level 2 bet $20. Then after that you can double it plus your "theoretical" $5.
$10, 20, 45, 100, 200, 400, 800, $1,600.
I have had much success playing only to seven levels worth of a bankroll. So I would play with about $2,400.
$10, 30, 70, 150, 300, 600, 1,200.
I would just watch what the last line win was and start betting on the other line with the $10. You are always playing the come out roll.
i like Pass No pass bet i also add the 5 count bet system to this and i find you averge $200 an hour
Al has a few of those but his video for the 2,380 dollars is for blackjack not craps is like a 6,000 deal
@ 12:08 your $150 DP bet pushed the 12 on the come out. Wouldn't a Horn bet on the 12 have covered that?
A horn, any craps, or just betting the 12 would all cover it if you wanted to.
Hello. How can I contact you about a betting strategy to try or just to get your opinion about? Thank you for your videos very informative
You can submit at colorup.club
The only way to justify playing like that is to field bet or bet on midnight or any craps or the horn or anything covering the 12 whenever there's equal more (especially more) on the don't than the pass.
I dont understand.
If passline wins let's say. Why would you bet don't pass next ? Shouldn't it be pass again if passline wins. This system you doing confusing
Sorry you find it confusing. “Shouldn’t it be pass again” there is no should or shouldn’t in the game, you can play however you want. In this particular strategy he increases the losing bet each time with the theory eventually the streak will fail, and the losing bet that has been pressed up will win.
I do this system in my home town but don't increase my bet more than $75. It takes a long time to reach $500 and is not a strategy if your looking for fast action( It's boring) . There are better strategies out there if you're looking for fast quick cash.
thanks for the feedback
You'll win at any game if drunk. Have a driver or stay over. Why you think Harrahs has that commercial saying don't drink. No no no. I never see boozers lose. Best with roulette cards and craps. Keep in mind don't be loud or start trouble. Reach the plane that wins. Drink up.
GREAT COMMENT FOR YOU I AM IN VEGAS AND I DONE KAUFMANS PLAN HERE AT THE RED ROCK ONE TIME AND I WAS BANNED
KENNETH BARNEYCASTLE banned? For what reason? Written or just asked to leave
red rock had four tables there and i was winning so much money i can't play craps there anymore
hey there i was banned because i played all 4 of their tables and won a bunch of money and they just said i couldn't play anymore---you know al kaufman method is banned in most casinos to let you know---when the crap table people see you lay money on the pass and don't pass they know they are in trouble if you win little money on each table and you will never failed me yet
KENNETH BARNEYCASTLE pass and don’t pass at same time is not allowed in some casinos, but I believe allowed in most. They allow because they still have edge and will win players money eventually no matter how they play.
Actually I have had pretty good luck with this one at wizard of odds game mode.....
Haven't taken it to a table yet though...probably get my but kicked....lol
Anyway have you tested Al Kaufmans 444 strategy? I think that one would take some pretty big balls.
Kaufman uses this same count method for his craps system...
Except he says to leave the table after you win a hand nd move to the next table...
This method reminds me of a man I saw last year who only bet the pass line. he would double and triple until he wins and then pulling the bet down to minimum once he won. Kind of boring but he was the only one making money.
sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't...like any strategy, its a gamble.
Hey Jeremy this Ohio Mikel ,everybody seems to want you to play this strategy a little longer, do it for four rolls , or more ,and see what happens, maybe you and my buddy Let It Roll can collaborate on his bigger table to see what happens, if you can get to the 500 a day suggested in Al's method.
ITS GREAT! A bit boring. So you spice it up a bit and play the field or side bet on box cars when don't gets kinda hairy.
Your profit could add up to more faster in you place the higher get on odds in stead of getting one to one.
Adam Brake maybe, or you could lose faster
Al used the same video cuts to show his method. A true random test is the appropriate way to decide if it works.
Ricardo Cortez Douglas i should roll this one out longer and see how it does.
No Aces were harmed in the making of this video.
I have done this strategy but in roulette instead of craps.
Twinsen764 this is a valid strategy in any game with a near 50% outcome
Twinsen764 has
Great job explaining the videos, but this system blows. Thanks again bro
Jesse Newby haha
How did you do in vegas
Jesse Newby why does it blow?
Jesse Newby didn’t play sadly
@@chriswiseman5985 martingale type systems always get crushed, several small wins versus massive loss.
Changing tables doesn't change probability. Dice don't remember.
True
With strategies like this, you have to be ok with sending it in to make a very minimalistic profit in a lot of cases. I enjoyed the video though.
Yep seems like the risk/reward ratio is steep on this one.
Can you play the pass and don’t pass at the same time at casinos?
Usually, but there are some casinos that won't allow. They will let you know.
50 sessions to win back $2400 when each session you win $500? I think you meant 5 sessions correct?
He ment $50 win per session, move to another table so that is $500 in 10 sessions (1 day). Now times that 5 times and it is 50 sessions (5 days).
You played it great! But lets be honest its a slightly modified martingale and anybody whose played that HAS experienced the top bet which causes vommiting and illness win or not. Its a scary ass way to win $50 every 30min or so.
I agree, this strategy is not for me..
I had a guy go crazy after seeing this, but I warned him that it's just a fun example of being ridiculous, cause if 12 happens on the coming out it's probably not worth losing that 30 on the pass for no reason other than to win 1 to 3 dollars on the point number. I thought I was slick and then after maybe winning 10 or 11 times in a row a buck a point number, I ended up seeing 12 on the coming out a few times and it turned out to be fun but not worth it. I like it to demonstrate a quick cheap win though.