Manjaro Linux Is It Still “Arch For Human Beings”?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Manjaro Linux Is It Still “Arch For Human Beings”?
A quick video covering the newest release of Manjaro Linux. Is it still the user friendly distro it has been or are things changing? Take a look and let me know what you think in the comments below.
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Linux is awesome. I can never imagine going back to Windows. It is so customizable which can literally give you a new OS daily if you wanted. You can customize the "start" button or even your disto's neofetch logo. Just awesome.
Windows is malware at this point
You mentioned only esthetic though, then you should talk about having a new GUI every day, not a whole OS, which is something else (not that it couldn't be achieved though)
I agree about it being awesome anyway.
I'd argue Garuda gives Manjaro a serious run for its money at this point.
Thank you for the comment! Didn't watch the video did you? I cover Garuda and its advantages over Manjaro in the video.
I second that, especially as they literally send hotfixes down the pipes for over a year now...
Garuda is an Amazing Arch-Base Distro,Maybe the Best One,Except to not found my ABNT Keyboard device...its a Ferrari but without wheels for me...i felt like this...
Running Manajro and Garuda on the same system at the moment. So far Im likeing them both. Manajro has been my main for the last year and it remains super stable. Ive had issues with other Arch based distros.
I used Manjaro for the last 3 years it was my first linux distro but I switched to Nobara on my desktop PC and I'll reinstall my laptop with Fedora too. Manjaro was good and I still really like it. I never had any big problems with it but I wanted to try out new things too. In the 3 years I used Manjaro I only had to reinstall my laptop twice. The first was on me actually because I started an upgrade and it failed right after it finished pre-transaction hooks and it started upgrading packages. And instead of trying to re-run the update for some reason I thought it would be the worlds greatest idea to restart my computer. Turned out it was not a great idea :D The second one was some gnome and GDM issue I didn't want to debug and resolve so I just reinstalled :D But yeah, Manjaro was and is great, I like it but it's time to see and experience some new things and maybe one day I will return, who knows?
The problem I had when using Majaro is the community for the most part is unhelpful and the developers always wanted to argue with people and think there right. A developer should always listen to it's community. That bugged me so much I Just threw my hands up and just said this is not worth it and left. Been using Fedora on my computer and got my dad on ZorinOS as he is not really computer literate. He is 72 and ZorinOS has been the best OS for him with very minimal problems .
I wouldn't say the Manjaro community is unhelpful. When I first installed it, I had some issues and people were more than happy to help. A few out there suggestions, but helpful nonetheless. In the end the issues were more with the distro than what I had done or wanted to do. For me it was the constant bad updates and total system fails that got beyond a joke. It was quicker to do another install than to fart arse around trying to fix.
I too went over to Fedora and Fedora based distros. Been having a much better time at it since
The way I see it, Manjaro is a very user-friendly Arch spin if you don't use the AUR. Not switching from my Arco KDE any time soon, though.
Arco KDE rally should become the standard recommendation for people wanting an Arch based distro. I believe Endeavor is real Arch and not deritive arch like Manjaro so its probably a good recommendation. Issue with Manjaro is I think most people that use it will eventually gravitate towards wanting to do more Archy things, and that will break your Manjaro.
Right now I'm breaking down how I can swap to Arcolinux while retaining as much data as possible. If I have to literally reinstall everything, like my entire steam library, I'm unfortunately not moving to Arco. Just too much reinstalling.
Great video as usual mare, I am testing Manjaro in my Garage, but I am just leaving it on the manjaro repository, at the moment everything is fine, I update it every couple if weeks and fingers crossed everything seems fine.
By the way, I agree. Dolphin is the best.
The majority of the video compliments KDE Plasma and not Manjaro itself. Manjaro is great for simple everyday use and gaming. It is also great for someone who comes from MS dos, sorry windows I wanted to say and the bash really scares them. It works out of the box. It's good. Many other distros based on Arch are great too. I like Endeavor. I use Arch btw. One installation has Hyprland and the other one has Plasma. I hope more people start using LiGnux.
For the heck of it and because I'm curious I'm going to try Open Office. Manjaro was a test OS for me last year. It's OK but MX is much more useful to me. Manjaro is a good way to try Arch.
I don't think I'd go back to Manjaro as I had too many stability issues with it and got sick of reinstalling every 3-6 months. I've been running Fedora based distro's for the last 6 months or so and generally finding them more stable. Still get crashes occasionally if I'm running a few high CPU apps at ones, but a reboot fixes it. At least it's not a total system meltdown where I couldn't even login which is what I'd constantly get with Manjaro. It's a shame as Manjaro is super simple to use and has a lot of apps installed out of the box that are useful.
I really like dolphin as a FM too (part of the reason I like KDE as well). I use it similar to the way windows does with expandable trees. Although it works better as you have the ability to split windows.
App menus I generally don't care too much for regardless of the layout, as I use search anyway. I know what app I generally want and high use apps have an icon on the task bar to quick launch.
Running Garuda and Xerolinux on the same system but prefer Xerolinux becuse of the gui 🙂
As an ordinary human, is there a reason I'd want Arch in particular and need Manjaro to tailor it for me?
I'm trying out Fedora (GNOME) after having started with Linux Mint (Cinnamon) and Fedora seems like a winner (though I might opt for a different desktop environment).
The main reasons to use arch are probably the rolling releases and aur. From my experience using manjaro i've found it to have better overall compatibility with different computers.
I've been using Fedora for the last six months and it's been pretty stable. Try the KDE version. It can be overwhelming with the amount of options to change things, but I like options. Although my Acer Nitro isn't a fan of Fedora, but Nobara working well on it.
Mankato is, in my opinion, the best Arch based distro for people who just want to set it up and let it sit there and do what it does. I think for those who are obsessed with checking updates it can prove to be a problem, especially if you install AUR packages. It is easy to set up. It looks great at first boot so that if you’re a person who doesn’t care about customizing further you already have a good looking desktop. It comes with a software center pre installed so that a new user can open it and peruse for what they need. With the KDE version you can give it a look that will dazzle.
Too many arch based systems are not that easy to set up once installed. They may not come with pamac preinstalled, for example, or the documentation is bad.
You mention bleeding edge, but user friendliness is not about the bleeding edge. In fact, the bleeding edge may not be good for the common user.
Like many Linux enthusiasts you fail to understand what a common user expects and needs. They don’t care about the AUR or about being at the absolutely latest version of everything. Many will not even know what the version of most apps is.
As long as the security updates are installed in a timely manner that’s all that really makes a difference for many.
Manjaro i3 from community and Mabox linux based on manjaro, are the only working manjaro at the moment. Don't know if the devs take the time to fix manjaro devs mess, or the fact that they don't have gnome/kde, or both things
Memejaro will never be king.
Hey, I've been distro hopping for the past year and I've never felt more comfortable than in manjaro, I love Ubuntu but it was always slower than other distros. Fedora has nice work flow but some stuff annoys me, manjaro was the one that felt pretty comfortable for me as just a person which uses pc just to browse the Internet, download anime stuff like that, but I don't agree with manjaro policies, money management stuff like that. I think of going for endeavor os or garuda, but are they user friendly? I'm Linux newbie totally, you have to think I'm just someone who starts Linux adventure. Can you recommend me something guys?
This is just my personal opinion as someone who has tried and used all three. Please also note that my experiences have been with the Cinnamon DE. For a novice level computer/Linux user I think Manjaro is still the easiest as long as you don't need the AUR. It is also best to use TTY updates (Ctl-Alt-F2 or F3). Manjaro did go 'off' for a while, but they're back now and I'm more comfortable with using it. I have Garuda as my current DD and it's been fine. I have had it on another system as well for over 6 months and it has been completely stable. Endeavour is also great but they expect you to be a 'learner', including learning to be comfortable in terminal. I would recommend Endeavour more for intermediate level computer and Linux users. Good luck :)
What happened to "Manjaro And Its Developers Can Kiss My Ass"? :D
A sentiment with which I agree, btw
Am a software engineer currently using zorin Os and looking to change to a new Linux Os and wanted to use Manjaro . Please will Tuxedo OS help me like in terms of my development stuffs ?????
Hey, I was just wondering if Ebuzz is on vacation or something? He hasn't been posting for a while.
Just got done moving me and my family to a different home, and I'm in the process of finishing up my home server hopefully by this weekend I'll be back to posting a video a day.
@@eBuzzCentral Congrats, on the new home. Glad you are doing okay. I thought maybe something bad happened.
I've been running exclusively Linux distros for over 15yrs. Everytime, without exception, I've run Manjaro, it's massively broken after 6-12months max. You shouldn't recommend this trash, when there's things like Endeavor OS or Garuda etc. The Manjaro repos, & held-back libraries, are a massive problem. The Manjaro team & their really lax practices are a massive problem. If you use anything in the AUR, sooner or later, UR gonna have a massive problem. Anything Arch based, isn't for noobs unless you wanna learn how to fix things. There's much better options, if you wanna use an Arch base, these days. Manjaro's a distro in decline, whilst others are ascending, don't do it...
i did not even use AUR, Manjaro crashed every few weeks totally
There's always Big Linux
That timing... 22.1 was just released
2:09 and I'm done for the next 5 years of checking out Linux for desktop. Been trying this every couple of years since 2000 and this is exactly why it's not suitable for "normal" users.
I thought the would be for 22.1 talos version.
Arch for human beings?? ha. I LIKE that.. It's good i think. I have CACHY running now--- I found out that if I changed my computer setting from LEGACY to UEFi-- all that "warning missing firmware" bs disappeared and everything works-- GREAT.. I EASILY got it up and running- playing DVDs.. and even PRINTING- with NO issues.. couldn't get it to even BOOT correctly before... so if anyone else is complaining of that-- tell them to CHANGE from LEGACY TO UEFI !!!!!!
Is it light for an old laptop?
Honestly when I ran Manjaro and even Garuda for that fact, at boot it generally was sitting on about 700-800 mb at rest. I have had good luck on older laptops.
I've such a very old 2011 ASUS laptop, AMD based, 4GB RAM that just works with current Manjaro. Certainly you won't be able to see Full HD videos out there. Certainly not for gaming. Certainly not for your typical cable TV websites. Certainly not to enjoy all those DE "special" effects... But at my secondary home it does the job for Email, some chat with friends, blogging, Facebook, a few small lower quality videos, access bank websites, write a little article or letter, edit a simple photo or to do the very basics!... If I've done the ram upgrade, I could perfectly to do whatever else I do on my current main AMD Ryzen 5 laptop, minus the Full HD video and TV!... So, yes, if your machine has 8GB ram, it should to be OK. If you can upgrade the HDD for an SSD, better so. I believe any PC from say; 2008 @ 4GB ram onward should work well on Manjaro.
If I were you I would go with Mabox Linux
I went distro-hopping on my laptop. I thought, let's go vanilla Ubuntu, all flavors. Most of them have install issues. Manjaro, Garuda, CachyOS, no problems. Ubuntu does that LTS kernel lock, where you gotta go looking to update the kernel. Manjaro also has some more io schedulers installed for you. I love both KDE and XFCE, they actually run on less ram than Cinnamon or Mate. Idk how that happened. Manjaro deserves some respect for creating a complete product though.
The problem with the likes of Cinnamon and Mate is that they are becoming somewhat obsolescent on the technology they employ. They're X11 and not Wayland compatible for example. They're also not adapted to work the best way with some of the modern hardware. No surprise they'll to use more resources to do the same thing. Cinnamon can be a wonderful solution for average beginners with little IT specific knowledge though, because it is perhaps the most intuitive of them all! I'm amazed on how such a small team like Linux Mint one with so few resources was able to put such a product like that on our hands that is perhaps the most intuitive DE on the whole industry!... Bravo!... But, of course, with limited financing and some lack of enthusiasm lately, Cinnamon may have its days counted if nobody picks it to the next level...
@@nunagoras MATE does have work on Wayland support, as does Xfce (which is pretty far along) & so does Unity.
I'm convinced Cinnamon is run by people stuck in the past...
@@nunagoras I think it's just tight coding and memory efficiency... possibly Qt versus vanilla Gtk. KDE definitely has settings sprawl, yet it runs well. Being able to fund KDE, a larger project, roughly translates into code time to do it right. For me, xfce is just old school customization fun. I guess if were serious I would switch to i3 or Awesome, which are coming up next for me. Maybe Sway.
@@cameronbosch1213 Thanks, personally I didn't know about MATE's Wayland support. Yay for XFCE. I believe the Cinnamon developers want to be the last ones... To make the most stable stack of its all. They'll to incorporate the work of many others while offering the superb final product they have now. Perhaps they think it's not mature enough, but I believe they're quietly working on it...
Arch feels sucks to me bcz you cant know the rolling update is stable and its so complicated and hard but tumbleweed does that with same rolling release with automated tests so it will be stable and easy thats why its the real king bcz its rolling and stable + cares kde (best de imo and opinion to much people) but no one mentions suse so its really sucks
l wanna argue but l cant because l love both Garuda and Opensuse 😛
That's the point, isn't it? You either need an installer that checks cross dependencies, and/or install package versioning side-by-side so top-level apps or frameworks don't break. Most people that complain, don't check their dependencies, especially in relation to core OS functions. Nor do they backup or do a btrfs snapshot. OpenSuse kinda died. Once Suse started charging, people jumped ship to Debian or back to Redhat/Fedora. It's because Suse isn't a US-born project. Early 2000's, it was a big deal because you couldn't charge for linux if you weren't enterprise. They had no market leverage. It's a shame actually.
@@alphonsealexander as I said it arch is hard af and garuda is also arch based which I would use artix linux(openrc kde) if it would be easier so if youre not a chad of linux users arch is a pain in ass + garuda feels a little bloated for me cuz of its kde style which I love classic kde but imo after all
@@z0rden_ 😂Yup the bloat is always a problem for me
Manjaro Is Good..Without that AUR Trashcan...that Cardboard House where Arch Fanboys Live inside ,on the streets...connecting their Old Macintosh Laptops and Begging Money for pedestrians.Manjaro is Just Dont Update the Kernel because this is Already Updated sofyware.Everything Works....Manjaro XFCE is Much Better than Arch because Arch incels are just wai fu pillow basement anime wackos....
"I like Gardua but I don't like the way it looks", go back to Windows.
Manjaro Rules,meanwhile Arch Sucks.....this arch Weebs can deal with it...