Urahara: Chad, have you heard of the worf effect? Its when a really strong character gets knocked around to show how powerful an enemy is. Chad: Im confused, why are we talking about Renji?
Renji has as many canon wins and canon draws as Rukia does, and fewer canon losses. He has a better battle record than a lot of Captains do. His reputation as an example of the Worf Effect comes *entirely* from that video.
No, for real the whole video I was like “come on bro”😭😭😭😭 He used an example of when he was in the Academy, and said he lost to Ichigo twice like Ichigo isn’t the strongest person in the whole fucking series like all your claims of him being a bitch are null and void when he fights his own captain because he thought he was wrong and wanted to save Rukia 🤣🤣 Ichigo beat everyone why would losing to him be bad
@@zemox2534 Try not to take it personally. Im a Renji fan and I understand that he’s a CONTENT creator which means he HAS to have stuff to talk about. He’s just trying to keep money flowing you feel me?
@@DemogorgonFreemantheres keeping money flowing then there's hating on a character for bs reasons when the ENTIRE squad of the visards are right there who are infinitely weaker and fraudulent than renji will ever be
@@jjuicy_wee_wee3800did Kiske Marry Yoruichi and have kids with her?🤔🤔🤔(Idk, but didn't think so...correct me if I'm wrong) and yes, Yoruichi is PEAK Bleach Girl and Character💯but Rukia is the Main Heroine, so Renji doing ALOT Right
Vegeta also has barely beaten any opponent he faced and I don't see people cry about it half as much as they cry about Renji for some reason. Also power limitation in the living world is reserved for captains and vice-captains only. Which is why Ikkaku didn't have it during that fight. But who pays attention when they're busy spinning a hate agenda right ?
Filler rooster Momo? Kira got one shot by Bazz-B while Momo fought more than 4 captains and survived. She is the ONLY vice-captain to tank Gerard's attacks.
I’ve always liked Renji. He’s a cool guy. He’s also a wimp. He’s that guy that will always stand up for you and he’ll ALWAYS get folded. Also. Rangiku blocking Gins shinso is unironically a better feat than anything Base renji had until the royal guard training.
Getting up after always getting put down is the exact opposite of a wimp lmao. And Rangiku blocking a casual Gins attack is laughable. He didn't put any force into it since it was for someone weak and already knocked out like Momo. Renji Reacting to Byakuya and Damaging Syl are far more impressive
I believe Rangiku is stronger than anyone thinks. Recall, she got torn up by Aizen as a child. She had Soul King bits within her. If there's anything I want out of the new Bleach manga--it is Rangiku, getting back her power from Aizen. And then--marrying Byakuya!😊
Ya mean after Mask killed himself by killing James, who was the real Quincy, and Mask was merely a projection of his power? No cap, it was a really cool fight though
@@joaoii1082 James could resurrect him. If Mask hadn't already killed James, he'd have been impossible to kill outside of Yhwach team killing again. Of course, that's hardly unique to Renji's fight. The Sternritter team killed half of their members, which is the whole reason the Shinigami won
Nah, the biggest fraud of Bleach is Toshiro by a large margin. Renji came up from nothing while toshiro is hyped up to be the next one up, buddy, you're like 60 already, get cooking right this second.
Yeah. Toshiro had a grand total of TWO wins in the entire series. One against a mook, which he required both bankai and his limiter removed to beat, and one against a child who was weak as fuck (much like basically all the fullbringers were). Though at least he didn't need his bankai to beat the middle schooler.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru fullbringers are so funny because half of them are slightly stronger humans and the other half are reality altering demigods that are capable of bending reality to their will
I just need to know. If Renji post soul palace is a fraud, then who in bleach isn't a fraud? How you forgiving the Vizards for being CEO of fraudulent behaviour when they didn't even do shit in their own arc. Kenpachi got beaten by Ichigo before bankai, that sounds pretty fraudulent to me based on your criteria. Byakuya got beaten by an infant Ichigo and got clarted by As Nodt. Rukia was gonna get beaten by As Nodt as well and did nothing but fight the weakest Espada to a draw in the previous arc. She also was the only one who didn't hand their respective fullbringer their own ass. Early Renji is a fraud, but if you're still saying he's a fraud and doesn't deserve to be a lieutenant when he's stronger than a lot of captains, that's just some A tier hating
My only allegations of fraudulence against Renji is that he didn’t become a captain in place of people like Iba. I’m sure that there’s story reasons for that, but there’s no logical reason that he should be a lieutenant after all of his gains. 😂
@@trevorscott2711I feel the reason he didn't is similar to Ikaku. He wants to surpass Byakuya and to do that he wants to stay as his lieutenant. It does make it so that squad 6 is ridiculously stacked now. They have the strongest lieutenant and a top 5 Captain
@@trevorscott2711 Renji reason for not being a captain is the same as Ikkaku's. He wants to surpass Byakuya and he believes the only way he can do it is being by his side as a lieutentat. Until he feels he's equal to Byakuya in terms of power, he won't let himself get ranked up
Renji is my favourite character in all of anime idk why. Edit : Espadas are captian levels and him and Uryu are kinda weak so they would lose, and the whole Gotei 13 was weak in Soul Society arc
The boy who needed bankai in literally every single fight after his first one, minus the time he fought a 12 year old who was weak as fuck? Yes. He's hyped up and his zanpakuto is allegedly the strongest ice type in existence, suggesting it's on par with Ryujin Jakka (or at least in the same rough ballpark). His bankai's ultimate technique is about on par with Ryujin Jakka's regular shikai techniques. And he needs his super duper bankai squared to approach Zanka no Tachi. Dude, you should not need both bankai and your limiter removed to match a goddamn MOOK! It becomes funnier when you recall that Kubo once stated that Toshiro has had bankai since before he graduated the shinigami academy.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru hes also a child not nearly as expieranced or skilled yet and still developing his powers unlike yama who has had thousands of years to hone his skills and zanpakuto and as for the seal that lowers reiatsu to be safe for humans around the captain/liutenint level fighter not something unique for toshiro we also have no idea how much the seal dose dose it lower all shinigami wearing it to the same level dose it restrain the same amount for everyone etc
Toshiro actually gets Ws and ends up reaching the level of the strongest Shinigami Zaraki Kenpachi. so he's not a bigger fraud than Renji. Renji got trained by Squad Zero and couldn't even hope to take on the Shutstaphal(?) yet Toshiro just needed to have his flower petal brake and fully mature his body. And Kubo stated he had that design for Toshiro from pretty much the begining. Upon getting his mature form he goes up massively in power, being able to flash freeze a post Bankai Kenpachi enhanced Gerard Valkyrie. He also manages to stop all the damage from reaching the Seireitei.
@@Smoodie.If renji is a fraud tohiro is the god of frauds, the og potential man, lets be real. Name 1 fight that wasnt against a fodder where toshiro didnt use bankai
@@numberhunter62toshiro is potential man, renji tapped rukia. Toshiro literally has never won against a non fodder, and even against fodders he uses bankai and special attacks. Hes the gohan, the rock lee, the meguni fushiguro, of bleach, a tried and true potential man. Adult form doesnt count as revoking potential man status because its the actualization of his potential in an ability(which was still USELESS because gerard just reformed [bum still cant finish a fight], and had to be sniped by yhwach)
@roshshow Yes, a much stronger Renji, vs a much stronger Uryu who was able to easily solo a Squad 0 captain. We all knew he wouldn't win, but he put up a great fight either way. Everyone who trained in the Soul Palace got exponentially stronger. Ichigo, Rukia, Renji, they're all much stronger after their training.
@@roshshowyou mean the one where Uyru clearly states Renji held back and hesitated. The same Uyru that took out a Squad 0 member. The same Uyru that has the 2nd most broken Quincy ability there is. Yeah Renji aint no fraud Kubo was just pushed for time in the manga and chose to give him some love in the anime.
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt Yes, the one which gave a third retcon to the source of Orihime's and Sado's powers, invented an Adjuchas that was somehow stronger than any Vasto Lorde and scared Baraggan, had a villain whose powers are "Lol, I have every Shinigami's powers", had Ichibe insist that Yhwach was right for wanting to kill billions and for destroying countless souls because he "wanted to save his father" (he did not), and had the villain's motivation be "Well, something evil happened millions of years ago so we should be as evil as possible every waking moment of our lives"
Renji is still my favorite Bleach character. I like that he's an underdog and provides emotional support to Ichigo and Rukia. I think reducing characters to battle stats would make a lot of characters boring or fraudulent.
I prefer Ikkaku. And admittedly, I'm kinda irritated with Renji taking over as Ichigo's male friend when Sado knew him longer and is just plain cooler.
There are actually 5 lieutenants that have Bankai: Renji, Shuhei, Ikkaku, Rukia (she learned Bankai as a lieutenant) and Chojiro (but he got no diff’d by Soul Society Ichigo). But screw all that, Isane and Tetsuzaemon for all we know don’t even have a Bankai, the only new captain I believe has a Bankai is Lisa because she be fighting and got the Visored buff (not that any of the captains that have the Hollowfication use it after the Aizen invasion).
10 years has passed, they could've easily archived it during that time frame, expecially with kyoraku pressing them to do so in order to fill the missing spots
This is a master class in hating. The mask fight: the reason cheering wouldn't work on mask is b/c right before he actually breaks his ear drums to survive the vizard Rojuro's bankai. The arancar fight: the reishi restriction is only on captains and vice captains. Rukia is not a vice captain b/c squad 13 famously does not have one due to ukitake's decision to honor kaien's death. Anyway trash take but you already knew that.
The renji hate is crazy 😂 he definitely isnt the strongest but ive always seen him as a way of making ichigo or other characters look strong by helping him or beating him. Personally renji is a good character and saying he has no redeeming qualities is wild my manz has not given up from day 1 when everyone got way stronger than him he still was trynna catch up and when he finally did it was so satisfying
Speaking of Renji's shitty Bankai, I love how the very chapter where Kubo revealed that Bankai can never be fixed, he had to make FOUR exceptions and one was completely wrong anyway. Toshiro: "Oh well, it's only the ice that's damaged so it can be fixed." Komamura: "His heals alongside him." Mayuri: "Ah yeah, he just like modifies it or something to make up for the fact it's destroyed every single time he uses it." Renji: "Oh, it's still missing the links Byakuya destroyed." Are you sure? Cuz Byakuya didn't break a few links. He threw the whole damn thing through a woodchipper. All Renji had left was the handle. It was still fine for the next 500ish chapters
Renji before the timeskip has exactly TWO wins. The first was against Uryu in the first arc (so, when Uryu was bitch level). The second was against one of Grimmjow's mooks, which required his bankai, releasing his limiter, and being saved by a 10 year old girl. Him defeating Jackie easily doesn't demonstrate how powerful he was but how weak the Fullbringers actually were. Side note: If Momo wasn't Toshiro's childhood friend, she'd be more irrelevant than Iba, a man you could remove from the series without changing anything or anyone noticing.
@@Inedow_The_Source_of_Racism Not true. He had an offscreen fight with Ikkaku then got one-shot by Ayon without doing anything at all THEN disappeared.
I don't consider Renji a Fraud because he was never protrad as the most Op or Skill and is actually treated as a Underdog. Unlike people Such as Torshiro or Ukitake all the Visored and even some of the captains.
Renji honestly isn't a fraud, but he definitely gets into fights that he doesn't stand a chance in. He lost to the MC, which everyone did at some point. At least in the first fight, he was nerfed to 1/5th of his power. He claimed to have been lucky in beating Ilfordt, which is hilarious because that's a Gillain level Arrancar. I think this was his worst moment since we saw Rangiku just straight-up body one of them once she stood back up lol Against the 8th Espada, he was out-matched and this was to be expected since his Bankai was deactivated for half of the fight, and the Espada are repeatedly stated to be captain-level and the Vasto-Lorde class are stronger than captains. I don't shame him for this loss. The Yammy 0 reveal was utter trash and I think it was terrible writing and the Espada from that point onwards were tossed to the way-side. They were dominating their fights in base-form and then I guess Harribel accidentally pressed the "Nerf Espada" button when she released since they all struggled after going full power.... Anyways, I guess I'm trying to say I wish Yammy was still the 10th and used to show how strong Rukia, Renji and Chad really were, and they could actually defeat an Espada.... and also the top 3 should not have been nerfed so heavily, especially when the Vizards show up to help anyways. He beat Jackie... so... yay. He lost to the Sternritter when Byakuya was also being bodied. Other Lieutenants were losing their fights in situations they were outnumbering the sternritter. For Byakuya and Renji, it was 2v2, so I'm really not going to make fun of him for that lmao. He beat James, which is a good showing. He then went on to fight Bazz-B with Rukia assisting him, and no one won since Bazz had his powers stripped from him, but to be able to stale-mate Bazz is commendable since he withstood Yamamoto's flames and later defeated Shikai Toshiro with virtually no effort... and could mess up the bambis.
I mean, Renji won exactly two fights before the timeskip: One against first arc Uryu and another that required bankai, limiter release, and being saved by a ten year old. Post timeskip, he got two more. One against the weak as hell fullbringers, and a real win against Mask.
@@MurasakiTsukimaruhow many has Hitsugaya won in the entire series? 1 as far as I know. The one against Ukio. Renji already has more than him by your own logic so the real fraud is still Hitsugaya
Nah the hating in this vid crazy. You make it seem like Renji smashed ya girl lmao and FYI biggest fraud in bleach is Omeada. (Ik the anime did him a little more justice in comparison to the manga) but you need to take the same energy and time into making a fraud omeada vid as an apology to me 😂 (rather have this then a hate comment. It was too much damn hate for one video 💀)
Right like we finally see his glow up EP last week and this man comes in a week later with a vid like he didn't catch his dub that EP. Let my man's cook for a month before you hop on the hate train again 😭
Ichigo is stated by Shinji to affect the world of the living with his "subconscious" spiritual pressure. So Shinigami with relatively high reatsu being limited to 20% in the WOTL 100% makes sense since them affecting the WOTL isn’t a good thing. This guy doesn’t seem to understand the concept of shonen power progression or he isn’t paying attention. Rank in the gotei 13 doesn’t equate to strenth, Chojiro Sasakibe and Momo Hinamouri are the same rank but Chojiro is infinitely stronger than her. Lastly even if James came back to life it still wouldn’t have changed the outcome since he could just be killed again and Mask isn’t invincible or indestructible.
Biggest fraud in Bleach is Ikkaku bro. He had 2 good fights, one vs Ichigo in the beginning and the fight vs the magma arrancar. Ever since then it's been downhill, getting beaten by one of Barragan's subordinates and James bro, fucking hell bro. Ikkaku U HAVE A FUCKING BANKAI!!! USE THE DAMN THING!!! A good runner up tho is Rose, the music bankai, tbh all visored were sidelined and I'm suprised Lisa became a captain and we haven't seen her bankai.
My understanding of gentei kaigo is that it’s only a restriction on lieutenants and captains level reiatsu. Also, the arancar that Rukia defeats is played down as a dumbass with a big ego. Likewise, she catches him off guard, and quickly shatters him in a column of ice. The stuff about hi-hio sabimaru is legitimately funny though. Renji is a disgrace (as has been described by Byakuya Kuchiki), but it’s not as bad as you describe.
Rukia didn’t need the restriction tho cuz she wasn’t a Lt. captain at the time lmao (only captains and Lt's need the restriction) he wasn’t the only one to lose to the 8th espada (ishida & 2 arrancar's lost too cuz he was just so much smarter) & the Espada specifically engineered the room so that Renji couldn’t use his Bankai in it after Renji killed the Espada's brother & the fact that mask needed to resort to using his strongest attack which would have obliterated James regardless due to the fact that James is constantly clinging to mask JUST cuz he was scared of renji proves why Renji won that fight fair. the only fights he lost were against Byakuya, espada 8 & ichigo (which doesn’t make him a fraud) and he beat ishida (in his first appearance), Jackie (without shikai) Arrancar 15th & Mask. giving him more W's than L's. Both Byakuya and unohana praised his strength despite him not even awaking his true power in TYBW.
always hated the superstar fight because it feels like he was allowed to counter and wreck everyone just because, and then metaphorically cuts his brakes and goes 200 on the highway towards the nearest tree
1st of all renji would have killed uryu if he didn't hold back second of all he literally got with a rukia third of all the only reason he lost all those battles was because his zanpaktp did not give him the name of his true bankai
6:30 I mean, by that logic, the captains are trash too since they lost to a guy who only trained for about a month. 10:17 Ichigo performed worse. He had the same restriction but still. To get folded THAT EASILY while in bankai to a guy coming at him BARE HANDED is far more embarrassing.
Ngl, I hate how they nerfed the fuck outta Ichigo just to give him another powerup. Even his ludicrous speed literally never came up again. The mechanics of spirit energy in the series means Ichigo's incredibly compressed spirit energy should have resulted in him becoming a lightning bruiser: Super fast, super strong, super tough. And enemies would have to beat him through skill and experience rather than just tanking his strongest attack and laughing in his face
@@bluegetsuga8396 Grimmjow's aspect of death might as well be Pride. Cuz that dude thought he could throw hands with Ulquiorra and win. Far as Grimmjow was concerned, he could take anyone and come out on top.
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Urahara: Chad, have you heard of the worf effect? Its when a really strong character gets knocked around to show how powerful an enemy is.
Chad: Im confused, why are we talking about Renji?
Bless Project Mouthwash
So basically the visored.
Renji: You're one to talk, "Chad".
Bros a d1 hater
Renji has as many canon wins and canon draws as Rukia does, and fewer canon losses. He has a better battle record than a lot of Captains do. His reputation as an example of the Worf Effect comes *entirely* from that video.
The Renji slander has reached it's climax, boys 😂
It’s not enough slander for that bum
From morons like the one who made the video? Maybe
Well deserved I'd say. Can we get much higher?
No, for real the whole video I was like “come on bro”😭😭😭😭
He used an example of when he was in the Academy, and said he lost to Ichigo twice like Ichigo isn’t the strongest person in the whole fucking series like all your claims of him being a bitch are null and void when he fights his own captain because he thought he was wrong and wanted to save Rukia 🤣🤣 Ichigo beat everyone why would losing to him be bad
@@qmoney9997 Everyone? What about Aizen and Byakya and Grimjow? i mean their first fights
Bro's gravestone is gonna say "wish id spent more time hating"
No operater the ultimate hater 😌
@@luci4463more like the ultimate moron
Yo where is the fraudulence video on Chad?
Chad is basically invisible, we rarely see him do good, and when we do he get's folded immediately after.
Made it to the end and i gotta say, this was some TOP TIER HATING🤣 I am impressed someone could hate on a character this much.
I call it pathetic
@@zemox2534why so
I call that being retarded
@@zemox2534 Try not to take it personally. Im a Renji fan and I understand that he’s a CONTENT creator which means he HAS to have stuff to talk about. He’s just trying to keep money flowing you feel me?
@@DemogorgonFreemantheres keeping money flowing then there's hating on a character for bs reasons when the ENTIRE squad of the visards are right there who are infinitely weaker and fraudulent than renji will ever be
He married and knocked up Rukia, he's the biggest W in the bleach verse , end of discussion.
Meh. Mid
Kiske got Yoruichi. He doing better
Rukia looks like a boy that’s a L
💯💯💯💯💯
@@jjuicy_wee_wee3800did Kiske Marry Yoruichi and have kids with her?🤔🤔🤔(Idk, but didn't think so...correct me if I'm wrong) and yes, Yoruichi is PEAK Bleach Girl and Character💯but Rukia is the Main Heroine, so Renji doing ALOT Right
To renjis defense: his real Bankai looks sick as fck
What's the name?
@@reprxbate52 Zo-Zabimaru I think
So-ou Zabimaru
Every character in bleach looks sick, this aint a real compliment lmao
You’ve convinced me that you’re the biggest renji hater on the internet lol
And you just convinced me you can't think 😄
I call him a moron
Hisagi made it look so easy in fkt
He’s the vegeta of bleach: despite his win/loss ratio, he’s cool
This term fraud kinda gets overused nowdays
@@mattb.7079cope
Yeah. Renji and now Sukuna
@@whit3dant3sakuna beat the fraud allegations 😭
@@Teiuri I know bro, I was waiting for this moment lmao. Gojover
@@mattb.7079renji isnt a fraud though, he solod mask when 2 captains couldnt beat him, thats not fraud activity bro 💀
20 minute’s of hating is insane 😂
One piece fans☠️☠️☠️☠️
Ong that's what I'm saying. after his debut power up too 💀
@@PhoenixFujin ONG
Hating isn't a flaw it's a skill type shit.
@@emperorkristophdionne7046get off our cocks we have nothing to do with video lil nga
Quick reminder that in the first fight with Ichigo in the human world he had the reiatsu restriction, so he was using 20% of his power
Renji was still a lieutenant.
Well, Ichigo is literally the main character so what is your point? The same Ichigo who TIED with KENPACHI, lets stop the fucking CAP!
@@DemogorgonFreeman and Ichigo had a large amount of energy which is why his zanpaktou was so large early on.
@@DemogorgonFreemanlike bro let's not forget ichigo isnt a fucking plot armour itself in bleach verse 😂
@@DemogorgonFreemannot the same ichigo bruh 💀. That ichigo was struggling with a menos grande my guy
Vegeta also has barely beaten any opponent he faced and I don't see people cry about it half as much as they cry about Renji for some reason.
Also power limitation in the living world is reserved for captains and vice-captains only. Which is why Ikkaku didn't have it during that fight. But who pays attention when they're busy spinning a hate agenda right ?
There's a reason why he's called The Prince of getting back shots.
Idgaf about the fraud allegations Renji is the homie. He’s basically the Chad from Soul Society.
Yeah but people only reduce characters to battle stats and win/lose ratios
He still has more wins than Toshiro, lil' bro can't fight without going Bankai and even then he gets clapped, Toshiro _IS_ the biggest fraud in Bleach
Renji: “ZABIMARU ROAR”
Zabimaru: 🤐
To be fair, Renji's one of the only lieutenants to even have a bankai even if it's only partial.
Who cares bro every main character got a Bankai 😭
Renji is only impressive compared to Hanataro
Filler rooster Momo?
Kira got one shot by Bazz-B while Momo fought more than 4 captains and survived. She is the ONLY vice-captain to tank Gerard's attacks.
She didn't tank it but she did survive 😂
I’ve always liked Renji. He’s a cool guy. He’s also a wimp. He’s that guy that will always stand up for you and he’ll ALWAYS get folded. Also. Rangiku blocking Gins shinso is unironically a better feat than anything Base renji had until the royal guard training.
Renji is not a wimp at all
Gin loves Rangiku, there’s no way he would hurt her. not a feat at all.
Getting up after always getting put down is the exact opposite of a wimp lmao. And Rangiku blocking a casual Gins attack is laughable. He didn't put any force into it since it was for someone weak and already knocked out like Momo. Renji Reacting to Byakuya and Damaging Syl are far more impressive
You watched clorox same as the videomaker
I'm gonna get back to Bleach now
I believe Rangiku is stronger than anyone thinks. Recall, she got torn up by Aizen as a child. She had Soul King bits within her. If there's anything I want out of the new Bleach manga--it is Rangiku, getting back her power from Aizen.
And then--marrying Byakuya!😊
The Da Masculine win was a earned one.
Hisagi gets his dub to in CFYOW
Renji is the drip reaper. He only loses fights because he's afraid to mess up his clothes.
Okay ima be honest idc if hes a fraud hes cool asf
@@Nick-qe4dv no shit
Tybw one *
He isnt a fraud at all
In defense of the Renji v Ichigo fight, Ichigo is cracked af even before awakening. Dude threw hands with Ikkaku and survived!
Hey now chill, Renji just beat Mask
Because of Mask stupidity
Partially at least
Ya mean after Mask killed himself by killing James, who was the real Quincy, and Mask was merely a projection of his power?
No cap, it was a really cool fight though
@@MurasakiTsukimaru he still beat him at full power. At that stage I don't think James could do much for him
@@joaoii1082 James could resurrect him. If Mask hadn't already killed James, he'd have been impossible to kill outside of Yhwach team killing again.
Of course, that's hardly unique to Renji's fight. The Sternritter team killed half of their members, which is the whole reason the Shinigami won
@@MurasakiTsukimaru except Renji and Rose killed James before and he was still fine, so what makes Mask killing him different
FRAAAUD?? AFTER LAST EPISODE??😂😂
Nah, the biggest fraud of Bleach is Toshiro by a large margin.
Renji came up from nothing while toshiro is hyped up to be the next one up, buddy, you're like 60 already, get cooking right this second.
Fr man 😂
Yeah. Toshiro had a grand total of TWO wins in the entire series. One against a mook, which he required both bankai and his limiter removed to beat, and one against a child who was weak as fuck (much like basically all the fullbringers were). Though at least he didn't need his bankai to beat the middle schooler.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru fullbringers are so funny because half of them are slightly stronger humans and the other half are reality altering demigods that are capable of bending reality to their will
Mask de masculine isn't a fraud tho, he took our 3 litenaunts and 2 captains
Respect Renji he’s been fighting at 50% the entire series
renji lost three fights at the beginning because of aizen and everyone decided to cal him a fraud
I just need to know. If Renji post soul palace is a fraud, then who in bleach isn't a fraud? How you forgiving the Vizards for being CEO of fraudulent behaviour when they didn't even do shit in their own arc.
Kenpachi got beaten by Ichigo before bankai, that sounds pretty fraudulent to me based on your criteria. Byakuya got beaten by an infant Ichigo and got clarted by As Nodt. Rukia was gonna get beaten by As Nodt as well and did nothing but fight the weakest Espada to a draw in the previous arc. She also was the only one who didn't hand their respective fullbringer their own ass.
Early Renji is a fraud, but if you're still saying he's a fraud and doesn't deserve to be a lieutenant when he's stronger than a lot of captains, that's just some A tier hating
You’re taking this video just a touch too serious.
My only allegations of fraudulence against Renji is that he didn’t become a captain in place of people like Iba. I’m sure that there’s story reasons for that, but there’s no logical reason that he should be a lieutenant after all of his gains. 😂
@@trevorscott2711I feel the reason he didn't is similar to Ikaku. He wants to surpass Byakuya and to do that he wants to stay as his lieutenant. It does make it so that squad 6 is ridiculously stacked now. They have the strongest lieutenant and a top 5 Captain
Ok, to be fair, Kenpachi was literally nerfing himself 24/7
@@trevorscott2711 Renji reason for not being a captain is the same as Ikkaku's. He wants to surpass Byakuya and he believes the only way he can do it is being by his side as a lieutentat. Until he feels he's equal to Byakuya in terms of power, he won't let himself get ranked up
Renji is my favourite character in all of anime idk why. Edit : Espadas are captian levels and him and Uryu are kinda weak so they would lose, and the whole Gotei 13 was weak in Soul Society arc
renji still goated imo
Calling Renji a fraud is crazy when Toshiro exists.
The boy who needed bankai in literally every single fight after his first one, minus the time he fought a 12 year old who was weak as fuck? Yes. He's hyped up and his zanpakuto is allegedly the strongest ice type in existence, suggesting it's on par with Ryujin Jakka (or at least in the same rough ballpark). His bankai's ultimate technique is about on par with Ryujin Jakka's regular shikai techniques. And he needs his super duper bankai squared to approach Zanka no Tachi. Dude, you should not need both bankai and your limiter removed to match a goddamn MOOK!
It becomes funnier when you recall that Kubo once stated that Toshiro has had bankai since before he graduated the shinigami academy.
@MurasakiTsukimaru Toshiro is also the youngest Captain by far so I'll give him that.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru hes also a child not nearly as expieranced or skilled yet and still developing his powers unlike yama who has had thousands of years to hone his skills and zanpakuto and as for the seal that lowers reiatsu to be safe for humans around the captain/liutenint level fighter not something unique for toshiro we also have no idea how much the seal dose dose it lower all shinigami wearing it to the same level dose it restrain the same amount for everyone etc
Nah lol. We definitely need a version of this for Toshiro. He's a bigger fraud
Not at all
Toshiro actually gets Ws and ends up reaching the level of the strongest Shinigami Zaraki Kenpachi. so he's not a bigger fraud than Renji. Renji got trained by Squad Zero and couldn't even hope to take on the Shutstaphal(?) yet Toshiro just needed to have his flower petal brake and fully mature his body. And Kubo stated he had that design for Toshiro from pretty much the begining. Upon getting his mature form he goes up massively in power, being able to flash freeze a post Bankai Kenpachi enhanced Gerard Valkyrie. He also manages to stop all the damage from reaching the Seireitei.
@@numberhunter62"actually gets Ws"
Against nameless characters and jobbers 💀
@@Smoodie.If renji is a fraud tohiro is the god of frauds, the og potential man, lets be real. Name 1 fight that wasnt against a fodder where toshiro didnt use bankai
@@numberhunter62toshiro is potential man, renji tapped rukia. Toshiro literally has never won against a non fodder, and even against fodders he uses bankai and special attacks. Hes the gohan, the rock lee, the meguni fushiguro, of bleach, a tried and true potential man. Adult form doesnt count as revoking potential man status because its the actualization of his potential in an ability(which was still USELESS because gerard just reformed [bum still cant finish a fight], and had to be sniped by yhwach)
Gotta revoke this opinion as of the Uryu x Renji fight in TYBW
You mean the one where Uryu was holding back
@roshshow Yes, a much stronger Renji, vs a much stronger Uryu who was able to easily solo a Squad 0 captain. We all knew he wouldn't win, but he put up a great fight either way. Everyone who trained in the Soul Palace got exponentially stronger. Ichigo, Rukia, Renji, they're all much stronger after their training.
@@roshshowyou mean the one where Uyru clearly states Renji held back and hesitated. The same Uyru that took out a Squad 0 member. The same Uyru that has the 2nd most broken Quincy ability there is. Yeah Renji aint no fraud Kubo was just pushed for time in the manga and chose to give him some love in the anime.
@@roshshow cope harder
I understand Hitsugaya but did you not see Renji's bankai bruuh
*hears hisagi slander*
*slaps roof of car*
CFYOW
The one that revealed his shit bankai and how he risks everything to save some obviously psychotic child he just met three days ago?
@@MurasakiTsukimaru
Yes The One You obviously don't like
@@RandomGuy-ci9nt Yes, the one which gave a third retcon to the source of Orihime's and Sado's powers, invented an Adjuchas that was somehow stronger than any Vasto Lorde and scared Baraggan, had a villain whose powers are "Lol, I have every Shinigami's powers", had Ichibe insist that Yhwach was right for wanting to kill billions and for destroying countless souls because he "wanted to save his father" (he did not), and had the villain's motivation be "Well, something evil happened millions of years ago so we should be as evil as possible every waking moment of our lives"
He may be dog water, but his fight with Mask was incredible.
He isnt dog water
Renji is still my favorite Bleach character. I like that he's an underdog and provides emotional support to Ichigo and Rukia. I think reducing characters to battle stats would make a lot of characters boring or fraudulent.
Exactly they just wanna go full Michel Bay or Powerscaling on people.
And only tunnel vision on wins and losses.
I prefer Ikkaku. And admittedly, I'm kinda irritated with Renji taking over as Ichigo's male friend when Sado knew him longer and is just plain cooler.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru I'm also sad that Chad got set aside. He's definitely Ichigo's best human friend.
Because you have ass taste in characters and can’t see them for the flaws they possess. L take.
There are actually 5 lieutenants that have Bankai: Renji, Shuhei, Ikkaku, Rukia (she learned Bankai as a lieutenant) and Chojiro (but he got no diff’d by Soul Society Ichigo). But screw all that, Isane and Tetsuzaemon for all we know don’t even have a Bankai, the only new captain I believe has a Bankai is Lisa because she be fighting and got the Visored buff (not that any of the captains that have the Hollowfication use it after the Aizen invasion).
10 years has passed, they could've easily archived it during that time frame, expecially with kyoraku pressing them to do so in order to fill the missing spots
The Roast is good, but Renji is among my Top10 fav characters, so Ill always like him, but thats just me🤷♂️
I refuse to stand for this slander on Renji so I will be lying down.
the mask fight if a fraud beats a fraud technically renji is not a fraud anymore
Don't hurt my man Hisagi like that 😭
18:30 when a clown vs fraud clash😂
Renji: Zabimaru is so cool and bad ass!!
Zabimaru: I'm about to pull the biggest prank in the series ever.
This is a master class in hating.
The mask fight: the reason cheering wouldn't work on mask is b/c right before he actually breaks his ear drums to survive the vizard Rojuro's bankai.
The arancar fight: the reishi restriction is only on captains and vice captains. Rukia is not a vice captain b/c squad 13 famously does not have one due to ukitake's decision to honor kaien's death.
Anyway trash take but you already knew that.
6:32 Bro called Ichigo a Human. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The renji hate is crazy 😂 he definitely isnt the strongest but ive always seen him as a way of making ichigo or other characters look strong by helping him or beating him. Personally renji is a good character and saying he has no redeeming qualities is wild my manz has not given up from day 1 when everyone got way stronger than him he still was trynna catch up and when he finally did it was so satisfying
4:40 during chapter 54 Renji was Nerfed by the Getei Kaijo seal, if he wasn’t he would’ve easily killed Ichigo
Speaking of Renji's shitty Bankai, I love how the very chapter where Kubo revealed that Bankai can never be fixed, he had to make FOUR exceptions and one was completely wrong anyway. Toshiro: "Oh well, it's only the ice that's damaged so it can be fixed." Komamura: "His heals alongside him." Mayuri: "Ah yeah, he just like modifies it or something to make up for the fact it's destroyed every single time he uses it." Renji: "Oh, it's still missing the links Byakuya destroyed." Are you sure? Cuz Byakuya didn't break a few links. He threw the whole damn thing through a woodchipper. All Renji had left was the handle. It was still fine for the next 500ish chapters
And Ikkaku and his shit bankai is still forever nerfed.
@@huntertezz Quite.
Well cause Mayuri is wrong. They are still broken due their poor relationship with their inner self.
Sajin's self heals due to him have perfect harmony with his inner self. Everyone would heal if they had harmony but they are too stupid and prideful.
@@sarthakarora3212 Interesting headcanon
Renji before the timeskip has exactly TWO wins. The first was against Uryu in the first arc (so, when Uryu was bitch level). The second was against one of Grimmjow's mooks, which required his bankai, releasing his limiter, and being saved by a 10 year old girl. Him defeating Jackie easily doesn't demonstrate how powerful he was but how weak the Fullbringers actually were.
Side note: If Momo wasn't Toshiro's childhood friend, she'd be more irrelevant than Iba, a man you could remove from the series without changing anything or anyone noticing.
Iba legit only 1v1ed ikkaku and disappeared
"She only won because I lost"
@@Inedow_The_Source_of_Racism Not true. He had an offscreen fight with Ikkaku then got one-shot by Ayon without doing anything at all THEN disappeared.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru the training with ikkaku was on screen a lil bit
The ayon part i forgot since it was pretty forgettable
Iba punched Ikkaku for not using his Bankai, so he gets a pass
Captain & lieutenant level soul reapers have that restriction. Not all soul reapers. 👍
Zabimaru doing him dirty might be the toughest thing of all
Mans really would never had known if it wasn't for squad zero
Man finally caught a dub and bro made it his mission to end his shit💀
Thats called envy
The abridged series jokes were great. Highly underrated references. Good job.
I don't consider Renji a Fraud because he was never protrad as the most Op or Skill and is actually treated as a Underdog. Unlike people Such as Torshiro or Ukitake all the Visored and even some of the captains.
I made it to the end and while I understand Renji the hate for Renji in terms of expecting more from him but he isn't a fraud.
Renji hate is stupid
Cope
Renji is trash
6:37 besides that ichigo was straight having plot armor
How's renji a fruad ?
After watching this video i got so much second hand emberassement from renji i became a soul reaper learned bankai and killed renji in 10 minutes
Renji is the Vegeta of Bleach
Worse version of Vegeta
Disrespectful to Vegeta
Your fav must be fcking kon or something gtfo of here bruh 🤣🤣🤣 both of them are goats
@@yokumob No. He doesn't screw up and almost doom everyone like Vegeta does.
And both are my favorite characters 😂😭
This video is proof that pregnant women shouldnt drink
Fr
Renji honestly isn't a fraud, but he definitely gets into fights that he doesn't stand a chance in.
He lost to the MC, which everyone did at some point. At least in the first fight, he was nerfed to 1/5th of his power.
He claimed to have been lucky in beating Ilfordt, which is hilarious because that's a Gillain level Arrancar. I think this was his worst moment since we saw Rangiku just straight-up body one of them once she stood back up lol
Against the 8th Espada, he was out-matched and this was to be expected since his Bankai was deactivated for half of the fight, and the Espada are repeatedly stated to be captain-level and the Vasto-Lorde class are stronger than captains. I don't shame him for this loss.
The Yammy 0 reveal was utter trash and I think it was terrible writing and the Espada from that point onwards were tossed to the way-side. They were dominating their fights in base-form and then I guess Harribel accidentally pressed the "Nerf Espada" button when she released since they all struggled after going full power.... Anyways, I guess I'm trying to say I wish Yammy was still the 10th and used to show how strong Rukia, Renji and Chad really were, and they could actually defeat an Espada.... and also the top 3 should not have been nerfed so heavily, especially when the Vizards show up to help anyways.
He beat Jackie... so... yay.
He lost to the Sternritter when Byakuya was also being bodied. Other Lieutenants were losing their fights in situations they were outnumbering the sternritter. For Byakuya and Renji, it was 2v2, so I'm really not going to make fun of him for that lmao.
He beat James, which is a good showing. He then went on to fight Bazz-B with Rukia assisting him, and no one won since Bazz had his powers stripped from him, but to be able to stale-mate Bazz is commendable since he withstood Yamamoto's flames and later defeated Shikai Toshiro with virtually no effort... and could mess up the bambis.
he's still the strongest member of squad 6 except his captain
He's vegeta with the hairline too
No
Wdym? He's Renji, victor agaisnt such opponents as Ford Fiesta and Toyota Camry.
Toshiro is the real fraud. He rarely wins fights, and always has to use Bankai to do so.
I mean, Renji won exactly two fights before the timeskip: One against first arc Uryu and another that required bankai, limiter release, and being saved by a ten year old. Post timeskip, he got two more. One against the weak as hell fullbringers, and a real win against Mask.
@@MurasakiTsukimaruhow many has Hitsugaya won in the entire series? 1 as far as I know. The one against Ukio. Renji already has more than him by your own logic so the real fraud is still Hitsugaya
@@darknesswave100 cang du
The Renji slander us crazy.
Nah the hating in this vid crazy. You make it seem like Renji smashed ya girl lmao and FYI biggest fraud in bleach is Omeada. (Ik the anime did him a little more justice in comparison to the manga) but you need to take the same energy and time into making a fraud omeada vid as an apology to me 😂
(rather have this then a hate comment. It was too much damn hate for one video 💀)
You forgot to mention that Bazz b, in his base form, was able to go toe to foe with Bankai Renji and base Rukka at same time lmao
Nah Bazz is really powerfull so I can't blame them
The anime is doin him sum justice with ep 33
James is the quincy. Mask is the ability.
Which means Mask was already dead since he basically killed himself
On the subject of Hitsugaya; how fucking unreal is it that Zombie Hitsugaya in TYBW is far deadlier than actual Hitsugaya
It shows how much Toshiro likes to hold back in his fights. Zombie Toshiro is basically Toshiro if he didn’t have compassion
ichigo didnt get his real bankai to tho
Dang leave my mans alone!!! Lol
Right like we finally see his glow up EP last week and this man comes in a week later with a vid like he didn't catch his dub that EP. Let my man's cook for a month before you hop on the hate train again 😭
I know I’m just watching this and and being like bro! I love you but aaaagh renji is my boi and he’s awesome!
To be honest, I didn't remember how lame renji was at first lol
Lol cause he isnt lame
Because you just bot
"Hate, hate, hate" - Ice Tea.
😂 he’s outta line, but he has a point. I love this “calling out the frauds era” make more and I will no doubt be here for it.
Ichigo is stated by Shinji to affect the world of the living with his "subconscious" spiritual pressure. So Shinigami with relatively high reatsu being limited to 20% in the WOTL 100% makes sense since them affecting the WOTL isn’t a good thing. This guy doesn’t seem to understand the concept of shonen power progression or he isn’t paying attention. Rank in the gotei 13 doesn’t equate to strenth, Chojiro Sasakibe and Momo Hinamouri are the same rank but Chojiro is infinitely stronger than her. Lastly even if James came back to life it still wouldn’t have changed the outcome since he could just be killed again and Mask isn’t invincible or indestructible.
Welp this aged like milk
Nah bro it aged just fine
@@roshshowlmao watch the new season illiterate
I like Renji no matter what you say he's such a cool character.
Might want to retract that
Still has a better w/l ratio than Yamamoto, just sayin
renji would have beat mask because he cant be healed from being vaporized
4:32 That's a reeeeeaaaach!!!
Biggest fraud in Bleach is Ikkaku bro. He had 2 good fights, one vs Ichigo in the beginning and the fight vs the magma arrancar.
Ever since then it's been downhill, getting beaten by one of Barragan's subordinates and James bro, fucking hell bro.
Ikkaku U HAVE A FUCKING BANKAI!!! USE THE DAMN THING!!!
A good runner up tho is Rose, the music bankai, tbh all visored were sidelined and I'm suprised Lisa became a captain and we haven't seen her bankai.
Next video needs to be on Nozel Silva.
He’s the prince of frauds.
Tripping hisagi is badass especially his Bankai
Bleach has terrible inverse scaling, renji is treated like a jobber when he should be more skilled.
Shinji is a bigger fraud, no doubt. He hasn’t won a single fight since his victory against a one armed, injured grimmjow.
My understanding of gentei kaigo is that it’s only a restriction on lieutenants and captains level reiatsu. Also, the arancar that Rukia defeats is played down as a dumbass with a big ego. Likewise, she catches him off guard, and quickly shatters him in a column of ice. The stuff about hi-hio sabimaru is legitimately funny though. Renji is a disgrace (as has been described by Byakuya Kuchiki), but it’s not as bad as you describe.
Rukia didn’t need the restriction tho cuz she wasn’t a Lt. captain at the time lmao (only captains and Lt's need the restriction)
he wasn’t the only one to lose to the 8th espada (ishida & 2 arrancar's lost too cuz he was just so much smarter) & the Espada specifically engineered the room so that Renji couldn’t use his Bankai in it after Renji killed the Espada's brother
& the fact that mask needed to resort to using his strongest attack which would have obliterated James regardless due to the fact that James is constantly clinging to mask JUST cuz he was scared of renji proves why Renji won that fight fair.
the only fights he lost were against Byakuya, espada 8 & ichigo (which doesn’t make him a fraud) and he beat ishida (in his first appearance), Jackie (without shikai) Arrancar 15th & Mask. giving him more W's than L's.
Both Byakuya and unohana praised his strength despite him not even awaking his true power in TYBW.
Every Renji fight: Now Roar! Zabima- ACK!
always hated the superstar fight because it feels like he was allowed to counter and wreck everyone just because, and then metaphorically cuts his brakes and goes 200 on the highway towards the nearest tree
Nah to be fair, if you're going to do this to Renji half the Gotei are frauds too. More tan half infact.
Considering Renji is stronger than a majority of captains and every lieutenant, probably stronger than majority of Espada and quincies. I guess so
Fr man 😂. Kubo wrote and Drew so many cool character and next thing he said was. U know what fuck them ichigo is saving everyone's ass 😂.
@@Mooinator3000 There's only 3 espada left, all of which are Vasto Lordes now.
@@MurasakiTsukimaru Technically 4 counting Cien although none of them come close to Renji.
@@huntertezz 1) Cien isn't an espada. 2) That's the least canon of the novels as Kubo had zero input on it.
1st of all renji would have killed uryu if he didn't hold back second of all he literally got with a rukia third of all the only reason he lost all those battles was because his zanpaktp did not give him the name of his true bankai
6:30 I mean, by that logic, the captains are trash too since they lost to a guy who only trained for about a month. 10:17 Ichigo performed worse. He had the same restriction but still. To get folded THAT EASILY while in bankai to a guy coming at him BARE HANDED is far more embarrassing.
Ngl, I hate how they nerfed the fuck outta Ichigo just to give him another powerup. Even his ludicrous speed literally never came up again. The mechanics of spirit energy in the series means Ichigo's incredibly compressed spirit energy should have resulted in him becoming a lightning bruiser: Super fast, super strong, super tough. And enemies would have to beat him through skill and experience rather than just tanking his strongest attack and laughing in his face
@@MurasakiTsukimaru what's weirder is, Grimjow didn't find it strange that he was able to woop Ichigo bare handed. He didn't know Ichigo got nerfed.
@@bluegetsuga8396 Grimmjow's aspect of death might as well be Pride. Cuz that dude thought he could throw hands with Ulquiorra and win. Far as Grimmjow was concerned, he could take anyone and come out on top.
Considering how unfazed Renji was after killing Mask, I don't think it'd be any effort for him to disintegrate James too
Sorry bro Renji beats these allegations, can't say the same for Hitsugaya though.