After his injuries and his move to Chelsea, sure. Now isolate the games for Liverpool vs him. He absolutely destroyed him. Its a memory that is burned into everyone's memories, both united and Liverpool fans. It is not a myth.
@ well it was cos he got burned in one game by your logic van Dijk got ruined cos he got bodied and beat by rashford in one game and rashford has a better goal record against van dijk than Torres does against vidic
@@Admiral_Kekdogwon the European cup with Aberdeen, pep can't do that. He always joins teams that are ready made to win trophies and has limited funds
@@slashthe2nd What do you mean Pep cannot do that, we haven't seen him at a side like Aberdeen, and why would he go to a team like Aberdeen? He knows his caliber.
I'd take both Jaap Stam and Vidic over Kompany tbh.Stam is criminally underrated and had a bigger impact for Utd over 3 seasons than Kompany had throughout his career.
They do it every time just to make it fair they give each team one cb each in the eleven. It's a bit annoying because vidic needs to be in there iver kompany
The disrespect for Beckham and Giggs is shocking imo. Ronaldo's prime started at United, sure, but he then left to Real Madrid where he was the 2nd best in the world. Didn't do it long enough for us.
@@habiladam6363just can’t agree with that, history would have shown that Vini scored in every single knockout of the CL for multiple seasons, and before the age of social media & PR, that was enough to get you a ballon dor. Kaka didn’t even go to the copa America the season he won his ballon dor. He won it because of his champions league performances.
Remember Keane against Juventus where the midfield was Deschamps, Zidane, Davids, and Conte, all dogs. And the only 'dog' in our midfield was Keane and he ran riot. Rodri is class but dont tell me Keano is not as good as him, no way.
Remember when Rodri scored the winner to carry Man City to their first Champions League and treble? Oh yeah he also carried Spain to win the Euros and secure the Ballon d'Or, do you remember that? The fact that City go from being the best team in the league to one of the worst teams when he's injured just proves his value. Don't tell me Keane is better than him
Its annoying how much buvey glazes and overrates bernardo silva even as a city fan. He's been completely anonymous this season and he's said nothing about him. He's a good player but doesn't get into an all time 11 featuring all those amazing players
As a Chelsea fan who can judge this neutrally, there are so many bad takes from both fanbases here. People love to talk about recency bias, but nostalgia bias is just as powerful. There is no way that one of Rodri and/or KDB should be dropped to make way for Keane. The former has literally won a Ballon D'or and done it in every team, competition and stage he's played at/in, whilst the latter has been the best player in the pl for the last decade, consistently dominated big games and put up ridiculous numbers. On the other hand however, there is no way the forward line, if playing a 4-3-3 doesn't contain at least two United players. Ronaldo and Rooney is still the greatest attacking duo the league has seen and both walk into this side.
Don’t know why position changes everything also the l/r midfielder is the worst, they’re basically the same as current wingers positionally wise just instructions were different
"Bernardo Silva could occupy a RW position for any of the greatest sides in the history of football ,he could have played for a prime Barcelona side" - Buvey... I always knew that man was f-ed in the head but thats just another level. Picking Bernardo Silva over Lionel Messi is a disgrace.
Well then you aren't going to say that about ANY player because there's always at least ONE historical figure that would dethrone him. How did your comment even get 10 likes? Are people stupidd?
It's only one game where Torres bullied Vidic. If we're gonna judge based on a game, Teenager Martial landed Van Dijk on his ass. Out of form Sancho made him freeze too
Can you stop bringing boovi on mate as a city fan he is shocking and embarrassing 😢 😔 like mate Aguero!!!! And Walker should have been shoe ins for us along with KDB also failed to get us David silva like wow mate shocking....
If I wanted any Man United fan representing us to get our players into teams, it’s Lyes. Absolute legend and incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to football.
@@Deathmare235 Not saying Sir Alex Ferguson is better than Pep though. Alex Fergie was only good because he played in a much weaker league. If he were to coach now he would finish probably 4th every year
Ferdinand and Irwin are the only English players in that 11 that are debatable. The RB is obviously going to be English, whilst Scholes and Rooney are absolute no brainers.
@@gerttopmuller Stam and Vidic are not skill moves capable or tiki taka capable. They are not silky, tekky, technical, creative, possession loving, nor having the game reading to play out from the back. They are levels below Ferdinand.
GK: Peter Schmeichel RB: Kyle Walker CB: Rio Ferdinand CB: Nemanja Vidic LB: Patrice Evra DM: Yaya Toure CM: Paul Scholes CM: Kevin De Bruyne RW: Cristiano Ronaldo ST: Sergio Aguero LW: Wayne Rooney
sensational how city have managed 4 in a row while facing liverpool the other (greatest premier league team) when they have worse players in every position bar 2 😂😂😂
Happy to see some respect for Gary Neville I was a season ticket holder his whole career he was so solid until his bad ankle injury in his 30's and also the partnership he had with Beckham
Dennis Irwin will forever be underrated, great to see him feature. Gary Neville being there is also refreshing, gets severely disrespected due to his punditry - there would be no Beckham, no treble, without Neville. United need to look more to the academy, that’s where the base of their success has always come from.
Neville gets severely overrated because of his great punditry career, otherwise he'd probably have the same amount of fame as Irwin. Even Neville will tell you he was in great teams and that Walker is better. The greatest wingers of a generation, like Neymar for example, will tell you that Walker was their toughest opponent. No one ever said that about Gary Neville
@bluecrasher7710 Neville puts himself down to Carragher's level. He's too humble for his own good. Positionally, awareness, etc... Neville is levels above Walker. Walker is basically a white Wan Bissaka with a better team around him...
@@jhaych you could argue all you want but no one would take you seriously, the basic criteria of being better than Kompany is the general football public actually needs to have an idea who you are 😂 pallister…. 😂 what’s his first name ? 😅
@@Littlefella73you've clearly forgotten how good he was. You're going on about the younger generation. Stam, vidic, and Ferdinand are far better than kompany
we dont claim him. but also this team is missing too many city players considering we’ve won a treble, 4 in a row, 100 points, domestic quadruple (fergie said it couldnt be done) ye united have been overrated massively here
@stewzs9269no cancelo despite him being one of the best in his short prime and maybe Ruben Dias too since he was a defensive wall that can play out from the back and Sterling if they wanted a winger
It’s not fair to compare eras. Pre sky teams only had what they earned and relied heavily on the youth teams. Post 1992 bigger clubs had a bigger slice of sky sponsorship and you could buy a superstar once every 3 years. Now teams have insane ownership money and bring all the top stars to the prem. You can’t draw a fair comparison.
this is hilarious. google is your best friend, it can educate you quite easily on the amount these big red clubs spent just from money injections. how can you be so proudly incorrect? do you not learn about the clubs history ?
You’re acting like most of these players weren’t superstars before those teams, the only superstars before were de Bruyne and Rooney arguably on this list
@JjHicks-d2w Funniest BS I've seen in 3 days. STFU and watch those MU players, or go watch your old club. KDB over Rodri; Scholes retired, came back for SAF's last season and his influence was massive, leading to us winning in 2013.
Rooney doesn’t really fit as a rw, maybe swap cr7 and Rooney since cr7 played rw a few times and Rooney feels more like a lw Edit: or just throw Beckham or Sterling
Wayne Rooney right wing 🤣 Buvey is completely right, Fergie mainly player 4-4-2, Tevez and Rooney were up top, if anything Rooney would play wide left. I know its complicated when you have two teams that play different systems, but you cant just shoe horn players in wherever you want 🤣🤣
In 2008, Rooney (as Lyes, the 2 time SDS Mastermind) said, started on the right with Teves up top. They interchanged fluidly (sort of Mané, Firminho and Salah in that 2 year span).
Yaya is the only midfielder who individually won his side a title. 2013/14 season was the best individual season from any midfielder in the leagues history
@@karsenhippolyte8721 his defensive positioning was top tier same goes for his work rate on and off the ball as well as his pace physicality and passing play - you either never watched him so you’re putting him down to pace because that what you’ve seen others say or you’re incredibly biased (whether it’s club or nostalgia).
@@habiladam6363 I will never understand people talking about city players like they’re only good because they have good players around them - the reason these players play with other good players is because they are good themselves 😂.
@joshmaddo583, Let's be real here and cut past the crap. If Alex Ferguson Was in today's game he would finish 3rd or 4th every year. Guardiola completely changed the game where Alex Ferguson was a tactician but more a man manager which can only get you so far.
@@MisterRandomiserso all those united players were good enough to get 100 points, the worst part is I know that somehow Liverpool will get more players than city
@@erisky2301 yeah but how many “wow”seasons has he had exactly 2 seasons to be a top player and world class you have to be consistent for a few years and Rodri is doing it and I think he’s at his prime now he keeps doing that he will be the best DM in the premier league ever
Buvey picking Neville over Walker and Bernardo for RB over Aguero for his choice of Center forward is hilarious. Aguero is the best center forward between Man United and Man City in the PL era. 🤣
If you don't put Scholes in the starting 11 I just can't take you seriously. The front 3 should've been Giggs, Rooney and Ronaldo. If treble Giggsy played with those two up front? Forget about it
@@Richard-d1y haha I remember that but Roy's seems to be a guy who picks guys he's affectioned with. As when he picked Irwin over Ashley Cole when he and Vieira picked their combined. He's a loyal guy
@@EmraldoDaSilva Are you actually mad? You don't get chosen by RM as an attacker if you're not good offensively, especially when they had the likes of R9 in strike.
Walker is a miles better player than Neville. Neville only played against wingers that went outside and tried to cross the ball in, Walker can put any winger in his pocket on his day
He said he was bored and started watching a Series A match from the early 1990s... (Can't remember the team exactly, but IIRC, it was Juve) His ball knowledge is insane (if you watch SDS, you'll know. His nickname is literally the Football Encyclopedia; he's also the two time SDS Football Mastermind Winner [out of 2 so far]).
I would want a 3-5-2 system to get in more midfielders. I can live with omitting backs from the team. That would also mean i can fit in both Keane and Rodri centrally and use Giggs and Beckham on the wings. Scholes as atm and i want Cole and Yorke as strikers. Biased, i know. So many strikers to pick between. Ruud, Rooney, Ronaldo, Cantona, Aguero, even RVP was great. To me Yorke and Cole was magic.
Only 3 players can have a chance to make those starting 11 will be:Rodri,De Bruyne and Aguero for me.All overs are United players. Schmeichel Neville Vidic Ferdinand Irwin Rodri De Bruyne Scholes Ronaldo Giggs Aguero.. Too many good players don't know where to put Rooney or Ruud.
Schmichael in his tenure was mad, especially in the 99 season when he retired. His successor was hard to find till Van Der Sar; we went through about 7 keepers till we got him.
@ i don't get how that should be used as a for or against anyone though? If we had signed Edwin after Schmeichel like SAF said he should have, you'd have upgraded and not needed to go through 7 dodgy keepers
@@joey-karate I'm not disrespectful of Edwin; love him; but the legacy that Schmichael left was immense, especially winning that Treble in his Final season. The same happened after Van Der Sar, until we got DDG, where we through a few keepers till we got DDG. There's a reason why the hardest job where you get the most scrutiny - especially as a GK - is MU.
Buvey is a prime example of these youtube commentators trying to be too clever to develop some sort of USP with their analysis. Missing Aguero out to try and shoehorn Bernardo Silva in is actually ridiculous, what on earth hahaha
bernardo silva might be one of the most overrated players to ever play in this league and football in general. guy had moments but overall he was a pure system player that never carried a game individually. putting him a best front 3 of all time? what are we doing here. proof of this is the way hes talked about for portugal. he's nowhere near the top 5 best or most important players but is talked about like he's next to ronaldo for that team.
Carried us at Etihad against Madrid, scored 2 goals in the first half when we smashed them, there have been loads of moments where Bernardo has carried. Watch clips of Bernardo before you comment. As a city fan I can say he is one of the best players we have ever had.
@@flopchopslip12 city plastic so I already know you don't understand anything about the game. and 2 he didnt "individually" carry anyone, not sure if that was hard to read. just because you score doesn't mean its a carry when your team puts it on a plate for you. kdb, rodri, haaland have all had individual carries. bernardo hasn't come close and never will. system player worthless outside of a functioning city 11.👍
Let us know your Man Utd & Man City combined XI ⬇
Cristiano Aguero Mahrez
Scholes Rodri KDB
Lewis Martinez Ferdinand Cancelo
Ederson
Sane Tevez VanPersie
Palmer Fernandinho DavidSilva
Zinchenko Dias Laporte Dalot
Onana
Barbatov, Jesus, Garnacho, Giggs, Nani, Nasri, Foden, Gundogan, BernardoSilva, Carrick.
Manager: 2017-2020 PepGuardiola.
Love how ppl say vidic got wrecked by Torres when they played each other 15 times and Torres scored 3 goals. It’s a complete myth.
That’s cause rio had to hold him back every time
After his injuries and his move to Chelsea, sure. Now isolate the games for Liverpool vs him. He absolutely destroyed him. Its a memory that is burned into everyone's memories, both united and Liverpool fans. It is not a myth.
@ well it was cos he got burned in one game by your logic van Dijk got ruined cos he got bodied and beat by rashford in one game and rashford has a better goal record against van dijk than Torres does against vidic
@@sukhvirmohem5390 Don't forget Van Dijks "aura" defending with his ass all of 2022-23 season
Rodri might just be the biggest victim of his own standards....
Not really, he just hasn't done it at the highest level for long enough yet. 3 or 4 seasons is not the same as 8 or 9
He’s not even better than Yaya Toure let’s be real for a sec and stop this recency bias.
@@anonymousone777if you think toure could play the holding role better than Rodri you have no ball knowledge. Yaya is an 8
he is a level above roy keane, nostalgia merchants dont want to admit.
Rodri isn't even close to Keane. Rodri's closer match is Fernandinho tbh. Keane is amongst the elite with Vieira, Kante & Makelele
Let's do an "All Time 11" because the current 11 are finished.
the city 11 is pretty finished too.
City finished but still 10 places above united 🤣
@@Nightsuthe current 22 are finished
Stop crying u lemon
@JjHicks-d2w you'll always be in our shadow. Never forget that, Always 😅
Bernardo Silva in an ALL TIME Prem XI is insane. Say no to drugs 😂
He doesn't even get in Man citys all time XI
@@erikpuka2627should’ve tried his luck with Sterling
Haven't even watched it yet but I'm guessing there will be a historic gap in ball knowledge between the guests.
Surprisingly Buvey wasn’t so bad
Most of these people talking weren't even born when most of Fergies teams played. This is pointless
But is he lying tho? You never heard of reading and watching documentaries?
I highly doubt lyes hasn’t watched all of fergie’s teams play that he could obtain the footage for.
Lyes absolutely cooked in the Pep vs SAF debate...
Pep is still better. Ferguson played 4 UCL finals and deserved to loose all 4. Got lucky 2 times
@@Admiral_Kekdogwon the European cup with Aberdeen, pep can't do that. He always joins teams that are ready made to win trophies and has limited funds
@@Admiral_Kekdog "deserved to lose all 4"😂 bro just hates ferguson
@@maalekalghitany495 I mean we did get very lucky in 99 and 08
@@slashthe2nd What do you mean Pep cannot do that, we haven't seen him at a side like Aberdeen, and why would he go to a team like Aberdeen? He knows his caliber.
Buvey has been at that glue, man 😂 honestly
Kompany over vidic is criminal as a liverpool fan
I'd take both Jaap Stam and Vidic over Kompany tbh.Stam is criminally underrated and had a bigger impact for Utd over 3 seasons than Kompany had throughout his career.
Yeah and Ferdinand aswell buvey is talking out of his ass
They do it every time just to make it fair they give each team one cb each in the eleven. It's a bit annoying because vidic needs to be in there iver kompany
Stam is scary , wouldn't want to play against him
Kompany is so overrated he should be in conversations with Ledley king not Rio and vidic and stam
The disrespect for Beckham and Giggs is shocking imo. Ronaldo's prime started at United, sure, but he then left to Real Madrid where he was the 2nd best in the world. Didn't do it long enough for us.
Which is crazy cuz they said don’t worry about the formation then ignore both easily
Ronaldo won the ballon d’or he was amazing sure Beckham and giggs deserve a shout but not over Ronaldo
I see Buvey, I immediately close the video.
Who?
@@Rocky-w5r the slab head who's actually a Bristol City fan. Awful RUclips pundit/influencer or whatever label.
He picked David Silva, Rodri and De Bruyne for his midfield 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Lol then 3 are arguably the best 3 cms
He's worse take Is nevile over walker 😂
All walker can do is run fast offers absolutely nothing going forward either @JjHicks-d2w
Rodri is the worst ballondor winner in my lifetime. During Roy’s career there was, Ronaldo, Zidan, Ronaldinho, Kaka CR7, Messi, Cannavaro, Shevchenko.
Vini would be worse. Carvajal had a better shout then Vini this year.
@@habiladam6363nah. Vinicius was way better.
Carvajal was an average player past yr
No way you’re saying that when shevcneho robbed it off Henry he’s just world class
@@habiladam6363just can’t agree with that, history would have shown that Vini scored in every single knockout of the CL for multiple seasons, and before the age of social media & PR, that was enough to get you a ballon dor. Kaka didn’t even go to the copa America the season he won his ballon dor. He won it because of his champions league performances.
@@Deathmare235 he’s making the point of how bad of a winner Rodri is with the shevshanko shout
Remember Keane against Juventus where the midfield was Deschamps, Zidane, Davids, and Conte, all dogs. And the only 'dog' in our midfield was Keane and he ran riot. Rodri is class but dont tell me Keano is not as good as him, no way.
That Juventus team came 7th that season btw
Love how they can only bring up the juve game for keane
@@TristanSpow juventus were the most feared team in Europe and had been to the champions league finals in 96/97 and 98 btw….
@SASMADBRUV7 Its not the only example, but its the perfect example
Remember when Rodri scored the winner to carry Man City to their first Champions League and treble? Oh yeah he also carried Spain to win the Euros and secure the Ballon d'Or, do you remember that? The fact that City go from being the best team in the league to one of the worst teams when he's injured just proves his value. Don't tell me Keane is better than him
Why is Ronaldo on the left when he played exactly 80% of his games for Man United on the right? (1st stint)
Because putting him on the LW while using his Real Madrid time as a reference is the only way he gets into these all time XI's
His best season in a united shirt when he won the Balon d’or he played more on the left
@@DenDave_ He would start on the right too lol
@@DenDave_0 ball knowledge
Did he win his first ballon d'or at Madrid 🧐@@DenDave_
Its annoying how much buvey glazes and overrates bernardo silva even as a city fan. He's been completely anonymous this season and he's said nothing about him. He's a good player but doesn't get into an all time 11 featuring all those amazing players
I ain't saying he does but judging him off this season alone is too retard
Hes an amazing player and buvey wasn’t even glazing him he even put him on cause the rw selection was lacking
@Deathmare235 he's not even a rw bro. Then may as well put rooney there. And besides, there are others still ahead of bernardo
@ishaanghosh2876nah he is a rw check his stats he played a lot there hell Rooney played more of a lw than rw
As a Chelsea fan who can judge this neutrally, there are so many bad takes from both fanbases here. People love to talk about recency bias, but nostalgia bias is just as powerful.
There is no way that one of Rodri and/or KDB should be dropped to make way for Keane. The former has literally won a Ballon D'or and done it in every team, competition and stage he's played at/in, whilst the latter has been the best player in the pl for the last decade, consistently dominated big games and put up ridiculous numbers.
On the other hand however, there is no way the forward line, if playing a 4-3-3 doesn't contain at least two United players. Ronaldo and Rooney is still the greatest attacking duo the league has seen and both walk into this side.
Don’t know why position changes everything also the l/r midfielder is the worst, they’re basically the same as current wingers positionally wise just instructions were different
The delousion is crazy, Vidic not a leader🤣 even better Buvey making out Kompany never got violated, there’s been countless times 🤣🤣🤣
"Bernardo Silva could occupy a RW position for any of the greatest sides in the history of football ,he could have played for a prime Barcelona side" - Buvey...
I always knew that man was f-ed in the head but thats just another level. Picking Bernardo Silva over Lionel Messi is a disgrace.
Messi was more of a false 9 for prime barca not rw
Tbf I think he was referrring to when Messi played in the false 9 role
Its Prem silly billy
Well then you aren't going to say that about ANY player because there's always at least ONE historical figure that would dethrone him. How did your comment even get 10 likes? Are people stupidd?
Cristiano Aguero Mahrez
Scholes Rodri KDB
Lewis Martinez Ferdinand Cancelo
Ederson
Sane Tevez VanPersie
Palmer Fernandinho DavidSilva
Zinchenko Dias Laporte Dalot
Onana
Barbatov, Jesus, Garnacho, Giggs, Nani, Nasri, Foden, Gundogan, BernardoSilva, Carrick.
Manager: 2017-2020 PepGuardiola.
The Ryan Giggs disrespect is insane. Thats how you know nobody watched these players. Just going off reputation and stats.
He did play lw on the later days of united as well
Stats and his personal life are probably the biggest reasons he doesn't get much mention nowadays
It's only one game where Torres bullied Vidic.
If we're gonna judge based on a game, Teenager Martial landed Van Dijk on his ass. Out of form Sancho made him freeze too
Exactly
Tbf sancho on his day is one of the best English wingers and is arguably the best right now in his prime
If you’d include Bernardo Silva then you might as well shout out Sterling instead
Sterling is class as well
giggs absolutely mudded
Can you stop bringing boovi on mate as a city fan he is shocking and embarrassing 😢 😔 like mate Aguero!!!! And Walker should have been shoe ins for us along with KDB also failed to get us David silva like wow mate shocking....
what the hell have I just watched, this buvey guy arghhh, rodri, aguero and david silva should be in that team all day
Calling Kyle Walker is best PL rb of all time is absolutely disgusting behaviour. Genuinely not even top 5, is and always has been a pace merchant
If that was true you can just stick any player with pace there and theyd be at kyle walkers lvl ... give your head a wobble lad
These guys are morons
@JjHicks-d2wbut that's the whole point isn't it that there was nobody quicker an now he's slowing down he's getting found out
Buvey had a howler how are you arguing Bernardo Silva vs Cantona and not Walker vs Neville
@TheCulesx should of been halaand or aguero in cantona postion tbh
If I wanted any Man United fan representing us to get our players into teams, it’s Lyes. Absolute legend and incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to football.
He says Neville is a tier 4 rb and only gets into tier 3 cause of longevity and trophies
@@Deathmare235 Not saying Sir Alex Ferguson is better than Pep though. Alex Fergie was only good because he played in a much weaker league. If he were to coach now he would finish probably 4th every year
Anyone who doesn’t rate Roy Keane should watch his performance against Juventus in 1999 and I say that as someone who dislikes Man Utd
you’ve chose one game. thats like me saying watch kalvin phillips during the euros that time and saying hes better than james ward prowse😂
But different playing against Denmark’s midfield vs playing against zidane, davids, deschamps and conte all in their prime
@@sukhvirmohem5390 hence why i mentioned a player thats slightly better than him in ward prowse. just how rodri is slightly better than roy keane 👍🏻
There is a clear English bias here. I wouldn’t even put Ferdinand in a Man U start XI. He is behind Stam and Vidic.
Ferdinand and Irwin are the only English players in that 11 that are debatable. The RB is obviously going to be English, whilst Scholes and Rooney are absolute no brainers.
@@Epsilon04Irwin is Irish
@Epsilon04 Scholes Is not a no brainer lol kbd can do everything Scholes can do and more lmao
@@gerttopmuller
Stam and Vidic are not skill moves capable or tiki taka capable. They are not silky, tekky, technical, creative, possession loving, nor having the game reading to play out from the back.
They are levels below Ferdinand.
@@tecless8786 fair enough didn't realise that.
Kompany over Vidic 😭😭😭
Too much nostalgia. "They were doing it week in week out". Trying to remember 25 years ago
Too much recency bias if you aks me
GK: Peter Schmeichel
RB: Kyle Walker
CB: Rio Ferdinand
CB: Nemanja Vidic
LB: Patrice Evra
DM: Yaya Toure
CM: Paul Scholes
CM: Kevin De Bruyne
RW: Cristiano Ronaldo
ST: Sergio Aguero
LW: Wayne Rooney
Nah Denis Irwin as LB and Keane as DM
sensational how city have managed 4 in a row while facing liverpool the other (greatest premier league team) when they have worse players in every position bar 2 😂😂😂
I really want to see a Liverpool united combined xi, I’m pretty sure they haven’t even done it yet
Happy to see some respect for Gary Neville I was a season ticket holder his whole career he was so solid until his bad ankle injury in his 30's and also the partnership he had with Beckham
Dennis Irwin will forever be underrated, great to see him feature. Gary Neville being there is also refreshing, gets severely disrespected due to his punditry - there would be no Beckham, no treble, without Neville. United need to look more to the academy, that’s where the base of their success has always come from.
Neville gets severely overrated because of his great punditry career, otherwise he'd probably have the same amount of fame as Irwin. Even Neville will tell you he was in great teams and that Walker is better. The greatest wingers of a generation, like Neymar for example, will tell you that Walker was their toughest opponent. No one ever said that about Gary Neville
@bluecrasher7710 Kyle walkers game was pace based G Nev was a better defender he wasn't special he just did his job and the trophies show that.
@bluecrasher7710
Neville puts himself down to Carragher's level. He's too humble for his own good. Positionally, awareness, etc... Neville is levels above Walker.
Walker is basically a white Wan Bissaka with a better team around him...
@@Coopdegrasso Walker is a better athlete and used his pace to make him a better defender
Buvey trying to compete on knowledge with the guy won the SDS Football mastermind.
Twice in a row. He's deffo going for the 5 in a row to make MC fans cry 😂
@@habiladam6363he should be the host next time and the questions are just off the top of his head
@@Deathmare235
Lyes? He's more of an answerer than a questioner, lol
@@habiladam6363 no point cause we all know he’s gonna win
Stam, vidic, and Ferdinand all over kompany, you could even argue pallister over him
if youre roy keane i suppose
😂😂😂😂😂
@@jhaych you could argue all you want but no one would take you seriously, the basic criteria of being better than Kompany is the general football public actually needs to have an idea who you are 😂 pallister…. 😂 what’s his first name ? 😅
@@Littlefella73
It's Gary 😂. That's the Keane joke on Neville.
@@Littlefella73you've clearly forgotten how good he was. You're going on about the younger generation. Stam, vidic, and Ferdinand are far better than kompany
Can you put Buvey in the thumbnail so I don't need to click on the video please
Best thing about all this is watching Joe T throughout - the disbelief in his face is killing me!
Explaining that "they're not actually gonna play together" to that city fan had me rollin
we dont claim him. but also this team is missing too many city players considering we’ve won a treble, 4 in a row, 100 points, domestic quadruple (fergie said it couldnt be done) ye united have been overrated massively here
@stewzs9269no cancelo despite him being one of the best in his short prime and maybe Ruben Dias too since he was a defensive wall that can play out from the back and Sterling if they wanted a winger
A balon d’or winner should automatically get in this XI, in 5-10 years nostalgia will hit and people will realize
He's not done it long enough. If it's 5 years down a line where he's won more trophies, that's a different conversation, though.
A ballon d'or winner in terms of accolades
In terms of how good he was
He was somewhere between better Than Barry and worse than carrick
You're making a impact with your gentle approach. Keep it up!
Pep has lost 1 midfielder and their whole world has fallen apart, keep him out of this debate 😂
Best United rep for this because he knows football
Mentioning Roy Carroll but not Fabian Barthez is straight criminal
Why it’s just minor gks
It’s not fair to compare eras. Pre sky teams only had what they earned and relied heavily on the youth teams. Post 1992 bigger clubs had a bigger slice of sky sponsorship and you could buy a superstar once every 3 years. Now teams have insane ownership money and bring all the top stars to the prem. You can’t draw a fair comparison.
this is hilarious. google is your best friend, it can educate you quite easily on the amount these big red clubs spent just from money injections. how can you be so proudly incorrect? do you not learn about the clubs history ?
You’re acting like most of these players weren’t superstars before those teams, the only superstars before were de Bruyne and Rooney arguably on this list
@@Deathmare235 not the argument I’m making. I’m talking about buying power and procurement of players.
Keane has to be in there
I swear this video comes out once a month
Yaya Toure, Scholes, Rooney, Aguero, Ronaldo, Cantona, Kompany, Rodri, KDB and Uwe Rosler.
Uwe Rosler, that's a shout man!
Schmeichel - Neville Stam Ferdinand Irwin - Rodri Keane Scholes - Rooney Ruud Ronaldo
KDB clear of them
@@TristanSpow Sure remove Rodri for KDB. No problem.
Walker over nevile
Kbd over Scholes
Halaand or aguero over ruud
@JjHicks-d2wdon't be daft😂
@JjHicks-d2w
Funniest BS I've seen in 3 days. STFU and watch those MU players, or go watch your old club.
KDB over Rodri; Scholes retired, came back for SAF's last season and his influence was massive, leading to us winning in 2013.
Definitive XI in my opinion:
Schmeichel (GK)
Walker(RB)-Rio(CB)-Vidic(CB)-Irwin(LB)
Rodri(DM)
KDB(CAM) - Scholes (CM)
Rooney(RW)-Aguero(ST)-CR7(LW)
Honorable Mentions:
Giggs, Beckham, David Silva, Haaland (needs 2 or 3 seasons more), Kompany, Neville
Rooney doesn’t really fit as a rw, maybe swap cr7 and Rooney since cr7 played rw a few times and Rooney feels more like a lw
Edit: or just throw Beckham or Sterling
Wayne Rooney right wing 🤣 Buvey is completely right, Fergie mainly player 4-4-2, Tevez and Rooney were up top, if anything Rooney would play wide left.
I know its complicated when you have two teams that play different systems, but you cant just shoe horn players in wherever you want 🤣🤣
In 2008, Rooney (as Lyes, the 2 time SDS Mastermind) said, started on the right with Teves up top. They interchanged fluidly (sort of Mané, Firminho and Salah in that 2 year span).
@@habiladam6363it was in a 4-4-2 and he went to the right cause Ronaldo was the actual lw
If your talking about formations then with Kompany and Ferdinand at CB you wouldnt need Rodri to protect them
City fan picking Neville over walker is criminal 🤣
United fan picking Walker over Neville is even worse
Rodri, Scholes and De Bryune would be scary
Rn, yes. For all time, Rodri hasn't been here long enough, despite his Balland'Or.
Buvey got cooked with the SAF and Pep debate
Yaya is the only midfielder who individually won his side a title. 2013/14 season was the best individual season from any midfielder in the leagues history
It’s not even close between Keane and Rodri. Keane every single day
We can have both. Rodri can hold and Keane and Scholes can be box to box.
Carrick wss better than Rodri
@eNyaaawde Bruyne is the best one here
@Deathmare235 I've seen the other 2 play.
Schmeichel
Walker Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Rodri
David Silva KDB
Aguero Rooney Ronaldo
American fan that started watching United in 2006... jesus christ.
Trying to get kyle walker on that board is criminal
How? Prime walker was a world beater he was easily the best rb the league has ever seen
@upthealbion he was not he was just...fast
@@upthealbion
He's AWB with better passing and players around him...
@@karsenhippolyte8721 his defensive positioning was top tier same goes for his work rate on and off the ball as well as his pace physicality and passing play - you either never watched him so you’re putting him down to pace because that what you’ve seen others say or you’re incredibly biased (whether it’s club or nostalgia).
@@habiladam6363 I will never understand people talking about city players like they’re only good because they have good players around them - the reason these players play with other good players is because they are good themselves 😂.
Never seen Buvey this rattled. I can hear Adam McKola singing and vibing to the tune „BBL Buvey, BBL Buveeeey…“
Buvey is a clown
Changer formation!😂
Schmeichel
Stam Rio Vidic
CR7 Keane Scholes Giggs
Rooney
Aguero Cole
Otherwise .....
Schmeichel
Nevile Stam Vidic Iriwn
Rodri
Scholes KDB
Ronaldo Rooney Teves
ronaldo ,rooney & teves what a shout
The disrespect to Sir Alex Ferguson for people to even mention Pep in the same sentences as him. They are not in the same bracket, not even close
@joshmaddo583, Let's be real here and cut past the crap. If Alex Ferguson Was in today's game he would finish 3rd or 4th every year. Guardiola completely changed the game where Alex Ferguson was a tactician but more a man manager which can only get you so far.
He wanted 9/10 United players in the team. How much more biased can one be?
They were better than all the city players tell me at least 1 or 2 city players who could replace any of our MU players in the past
@@MisterRandomiser So the argument that pep only wins because he has great players is bs then.
@@MisterRandomiserso all those united players were good enough to get 100 points, the worst part is I know that somehow Liverpool will get more players than city
Rodri should be in that team.
Easy
Not been here long enough. If this was 5 years down the line and he's won more trophies (plus his Balland'Or), it's a different conversation.
@@erisky2301 No he has to keep this level in the next few years he's only done it for only a couple seasons
@@darealwb my friend the guy is been here for a while what you wanna about
@@erisky2301 yeah but how many “wow”seasons has he had exactly 2 seasons to be a top player and world class you have to be consistent for a few years and Rodri is doing it and I think he’s at his prime now he keeps doing that he will be the best DM in the premier league ever
Bernardo silva vs Eric cantona is my favourite argument
Buvey picking Neville over Walker and Bernardo for RB over Aguero for his choice of Center forward is hilarious.
Aguero is the best center forward between Man United and Man City in the PL era. 🤣
He didn’t pick bernado over Aguero he just thought that Rooney was solidified striker
Schmeichel
Walker
Rio
Vidic
Irwin
Rodri
Scholes
Kdb
Ronaldo
Aguero
Rooney
If you don't put Scholes in the starting 11 I just can't take you seriously. The front 3 should've been Giggs, Rooney and Ronaldo. If treble Giggsy played with those two up front? Forget about it
Giggsy played LM, and Beckham could have a better shout at RW (CR7, Rooney and Becks would be devastating).
@ Beckham is not on the level as these three offensively.
Roy Keane made his alltime manu xi and didn't pick Scholes.
@@Richard-d1y haha I remember that but Roy's seems to be a guy who picks guys he's affectioned with. As when he picked Irwin over Ashley Cole when he and Vieira picked their combined. He's a loyal guy
@@EmraldoDaSilva
Are you actually mad?
You don't get chosen by RM as an attacker if you're not good offensively, especially when they had the likes of R9 in strike.
Kayla Walker over Gary Neville, Rodri over Roy Keane, and Vidic over Ferdinand.
11:39 "is that Bernado Silva?" 😂😂😂😂😂 insane... actual insanity
Kompany couldn't lace Vidic's boots. The worst version of Vidic is better than Kompany in his prime.
Walker is a miles better player than Neville. Neville only played against wingers that went outside and tried to cross the ball in, Walker can put any winger in his pocket on his day
Also your name is Bert, I can’t take you serious
Oh dear 🤦♂️
Buvey would have gotten Walker and Aguero but he messed up LMAO
That cantona segment was short sweet and simple well spoken Liyes
Man they have this segment every season
Maybe asking kids who say they started watching in 2007 was a stupid choice??
He said he was bored and started watching a Series A match from the early 1990s... (Can't remember the team exactly, but IIRC, it was Juve)
His ball knowledge is insane (if you watch SDS, you'll know. His nickname is literally the Football Encyclopedia; he's also the two time SDS Football Mastermind Winner [out of 2 so far]).
Table 3 Kompany in the all time line up is crazy
Tbf he hates city players he put bernado 4 and I think Dias too
I would want a 3-5-2 system to get in more midfielders. I can live with omitting backs from the team. That would also mean i can fit in both Keane and Rodri centrally and use Giggs and Beckham on the wings. Scholes as atm and i want Cole and Yorke as strikers. Biased, i know. So many strikers to pick between. Ruud, Rooney, Ronaldo, Cantona, Aguero, even RVP was great. To me Yorke and Cole was magic.
Roy Keane over Rodri is pure nostalgia bias, regardless of system
In what world is this even a debate?
So football didn’t exist before the premier league. Where’s George best!
Lyes is laughing like he’s not allowed at home
You're shaping lives with your content. Keep that humble spirit.
Only 3 players can have a chance to make those starting 11 will be:Rodri,De Bruyne and Aguero for me.All overs are United players. Schmeichel Neville Vidic Ferdinand Irwin Rodri De Bruyne Scholes Ronaldo Giggs Aguero.. Too many good players don't know where to put Rooney or Ruud.
No centre back should be shamed for getting run ragged by *prime Torres*
Schmeichel- Walker Ferdinand Vidic Evra - Rodri Scholes De Bruyne - Ronaldo Rooney Haaland
irwin over evra, stam/kompany over vidic
Halaand 😂😂 2 season wonder, kid, van nistelrooy
Haaland 😂
irwin over evra and and silva over scholes and rooney does the donkey work this team could play
@@XGenGameBoy manu kicked em out in his prime
Buvey being responsible was not on my bingo card!
Buvey trying to argue over the formation just to get his players in🤣🤣
Buvey choosing Bernardo Silva in a combined Manchester United/City all time 11 😂😂😂
The disrespect to Edwin Van Der Sar is criminal. 14 clean sheets in a row. No amateur dramatics, no joining rivals. Edwin eclipses the lot of them.
Schmichael in his tenure was mad, especially in the 99 season when he retired. His successor was hard to find till Van Der Sar; we went through about 7 keepers till we got him.
@ i don't get how that should be used as a for or against anyone though? If we had signed Edwin after Schmeichel like SAF said he should have, you'd have upgraded and not needed to go through 7 dodgy keepers
@@joey-karate
I'm not disrespectful of Edwin; love him; but the legacy that Schmichael left was immense, especially winning that Treble in his Final season. The same happened after Van Der Sar, until we got DDG, where we through a few keepers till we got DDG.
There's a reason why the hardest job where you get the most scrutiny - especially as a GK - is MU.
@@habiladam6363 didn't say you were? I know. Just saying I think Edwin was better. I watched both so entitled to my opinion.
Wasn’t he like 35 when he joined also he choked the 2011 final against Barcelona, all the shots he could’ve and should’ve stopped
Pep to win double the amount of league tittles than fergie in his time =26 tittles in 25years
Buvey is a prime example of these youtube commentators trying to be too clever to develop some sort of USP with their analysis. Missing Aguero out to try and shoehorn Bernardo Silva in is actually ridiculous, what on earth hahaha
As a United supporter, I’ve gotta put Walker ahead of Neville.
bernardo silva might be one of the most overrated players to ever play in this league and football in general. guy had moments but overall he was a pure system player that never carried a game individually. putting him a best front 3 of all time? what are we doing here.
proof of this is the way hes talked about for portugal. he's nowhere near the top 5 best or most important players but is talked about like he's next to ronaldo for that team.
Carried us at Etihad against Madrid, scored 2 goals in the first half when we smashed them, there have been loads of moments where Bernardo has carried.
Watch clips of Bernardo before you comment. As a city fan I can say he is one of the best players we have ever had.
@@flopchopslip12 city plastic so I already know you don't understand anything about the game.
and 2 he didnt "individually" carry anyone, not sure if that was hard to read. just because you score doesn't mean its a carry when your team puts it on a plate for you. kdb, rodri, haaland have all had individual carries. bernardo hasn't come close and never will. system player worthless outside of a functioning city 11.👍
@@Nightsubernado is the best dribbler in the team and he definitely scored goals individually
Schmeichel- Walker Ferdinand Irwin- Rodri Toure- Ronaldo DSilva KDB Rooney- Aguerro
What formation is that? 3-2-5???😂
@ Three defenders Two DMs and four attacking midfielders and a killer in front of goal
Nemanja is the only defender i saw marking Drogba out of the game . .....
Rodri at this pace, when he will hang his boots up will end up as one of the best CDMs in the world EVER. Also Bernardo Silva PL legacy >> Ronaldo.
dont know about that even bs woulnt agree
Cr7s szn> Bernardo Silvia's career