I understand why people find TOM so good on fu xuan, it's undeniably perfect if you want herself to get tankier and the effect res is good for keel. But here's my take after seeing leak showcases: She is genuinely immortal and has so much more self healing than she provides to her team that they will literally die before her despite the huge mitigation she provides. So more taunt value is definitely good even for her, and it helps fueling her ult as well
Yeah, I agree with this. That's why Landau's Choice or Gepard's Sig LC would be better for her imo. Tho if you are against AoE nukes like Yanqing's, you might need some more hp% or def% substats (which are easy to get) to survive if she was at 51% of her hp. But in most cases, you won't really reach exactly at 51% hp, so it's still okay to get other substats like Effect Res or crit.
@JordanII. There is this certain yt commenter (forgot their name) that always says, "Fu Xuan is trash and ain't worth it, cuz March 7th is all you need, and better than Fu Xuan". You might see them in some Fu Xuan related videos.
Fall of the Aeon is also BiS for Clara if you don't have her signature. I'm gonna go for the preservation one for Fu because I've been blessed with great hunt and nihility light cones so far
Want to add correction to the moles welcome you LC. To achieve the max stack you need to attack using basic, skill, and ult each one cause they are counted as one stack. As Imbibitor lunae dont have attacking skill, that LC will permanently have 2 stack. I believe it was due to mistranslation from the CN and it was already tested that it work this way. Except that every explanation is spot on, well done
Because Gepard was my first star in the game from the beginner banner, the preservation LC was the first one I got out of Herta shop AND I just S5’d it this week. I was already hoping I get his signature (since standard gave him to me three times) so I can move around all the preservation units LC. Now after watching this, I need his LC more than ever so she can get Herta’s. I have the other Herta LC at S1. I wanted to S5 the preservation one first before I started saving for the Nihility one.
Since I refined the Destruction LC first to rank 5, i will be set for Jingliu. And thankfully for my Fu Xuan, by the time she comes I'll have the Preservation one at rank 4. Herta really carrying us rn Also I really like Smack's approach of "it won't be easy to pull off but if you do, greatness awaits"
Thanks for making the Honkai experience so amazing with your videos. You really hit the nail with many of your opinions and observations about the game, characters and so on. Keep the outstanding work going please! God bless you :)
Appreciate your insight on this. Being F2P makes getting light cones a bit more difficult so it's very much appreciated that you include F2P options. Great vid
I know Smack doesn't play Clara but for you Clara enjoyers out there On the Fall of an Aeon is excellent for her as well if you don't have her signature
There's one other light cone for Fu Xuan I'd like to add for F2P players you didn't mention, which is the 3 Star Light Cone *Defense.* The effect at S5 is casting her burst will heal 30% of her max HP, so if all you care about is survivability and either can't get the cone in Herta's shop or are considering another, this feels like a decent alternative.
Damn this seems like a good option. Does this heal only the user or party wide ? I could use this since I only have Natasha and she just can't keep up with Blade. I know lynx is going to be released soon and looks promising but she's a four star and you never know if you're gonna get her or not.
@@Grey.the.Gandalff Only the user. It's a 3 star LC, after all. But so long as Fu Xuan can keep herself alive to keep redirecting damage and she has some more party sustainability tools in her kit (which I'm guessing is the case as we do not know her ascension passives yet) this LC will be at least a very good F2P option
Thank you so much for this video! I finally have enough bonds to choose and fully S5 a herta LC and I’ve been stuck for days trying to decide. I’m 100% going for Fu Xuan so the preservation LC looks like the pick!
I think that Fu Xuan don't need the herta preservation light cone because she's already almost unkillable even without it. At like 8 or 9k HP and if she's at the worst HP cap before taking a big hit (50,01%) she needs to take >4000dmg in one single hit to be killed after all her damage mitigation (from her skill, march lightcone, mate def, her Def). Only huge aoe dmg on all the team like the deer ultralaser attack can kill her at the moment, and maybe one other attack in the game (the big robot ass attack ?). The team mates, however, can be killed little by little and to avoid that you can reduce the dmg they take with the march light cone by 8% at S1 + invest into max HP and healing output on Fu Xuan because her ult scales on MaxHP and Healing Output, the healing output is also more efficient than a HP% piece to increase healing by a lot. Maybe she even can be played with 2pc heal + 2pc HP% with heal main stat on armor for more efficiency. If we consider all the damage mitigation of Fu Xuan on the entire team, when she heal like 700/800 Hp per ult to all team mates it's like she's healing +2-3k hp for each without the mitigation. So I don't think she needs the shield of the herta lc, she needs a lot of HP and invest the rest into healing and the march light cone might be better for team survivabilty. But the sign LC of Fu Xuan is really strong, HP% and Energy Regen for spamming ult and healing + Dmg increase on all team just by her presence is huge for a sustain character. Definitively will try to pull it.
There's one thing I'm not entirely sure on with Texture of Memories Based on some...Dreams...tbat we had, Fu Xuan doesn't really seem like she has any issue with taking damage herself, it's the rest of the team. So personally I'd lean towards Landau or Moment of Victory for the taunt so that the team get's attacked less and based on every Dream I had Fu Xuan herself is fully capable of being attacked without dying
@@kitsuchii6809 I don't really think she's going to loose stacks faster from what I saw in my Dreams infact stack managament seems fairly chill, her dmg reduction is just that good
Damn… texture of memories is actually pretty cracked on fu xuan. I’m low key thinking hoyo released IL and fu xuan for the secondary effects of having herta’s other light cones being used HAHAHAH
i appreciate the thoughts man cuz i was ganna pick up the new lightcone but im saving for Fu Xuan and shes 100% coming home and i was not considering the preservation lightcone on hertas shop so thanks for shedding some light on it. Love the vids and keep up to good work Smack
I'm a newer player so I just started superimposing my nihility lc for my Luka (Sampo already has eyes of prey while my Luka had fermata so I swapped that out). I will definitely refer to this again when I'm done with that.
i've only picked the hunt light cone (s5) bc i got seele, and now i almost have enough currency to directly buy a s5 herta's shop light cone. since i have a lvl 80 s3 landau's, that's gonna be what i'll be using for fu xuan; and although i have a s4 under the blue sky, i'm buying s5 aeon for imbibitor, as i looked at some theorycraft and it looks like it's gonna be 2nd BiS for him
Smack, there have been speculations wether the attacked party members DEF value will be calculated into the damage or always fu xuans DEF value. As of now people think that fu xuans DEF doesnt matter for damage she takes from allied members taking hits, so that should be taken into account when picking her light cone and substats
Im glad the nihility cone is as good as it is to be honest, it workkng for both of Kafkas main subs is also super nice from a cost effect standpoint, so long as you aremt double sub dpsing its one cones worth of investment for 2+ characters assuming future phys / wind nihility subs
So is S5 solitary healing better or S5 fermata? Im building my kafka with crit to be used with tingyun, instead of sampo and luka. Edit: I don't have GNSW or Eyes of the prey.
Man I wish I'd have seen this video sooner. I have Herta strore's nihility cone at s4 while my other nihility cones are good enough if not better and realise that I have no cone for Fu Xuan at all. I think this might be the first time I'll pull on the weapon banner on the leftovers, gotta make it work somehow
Already building the Preservation one since I got enough to guarantee FuXuan. Though somehow I'm still worried that she won't quite solo sustain that easily. Since the team will still take some damage and her heal seems quite small, I'm not really convinced yet that the team won't just slowly die. That said I'm 100% getting her regardless, since her design & animations are awesome and I REALLY need a sustain that's not called Natasha or March or .. Clara? KEKL Guess I will find out if she'll finally allow me to 3 star MoC 7+ or if I have to pray even harder to get relics that aren't dogwater so my Seele starts hitting a bit harder than a wet noodle =/ God I wish there were artifact routes in HSR. After doing them for years in Genshin, F2P in HSR really feels like I can't level anything that's not already starting out with amazing base rolls.
Not gonna lie. I invested all of my herta points on the preservation one for my mc, thinking it was good, but then I got a better one. I'm so happy to see that investment will be good on one of my favorite characters. Great vid big bro👍
I was lucky enough to get gepard and his LC. I picked the destruction and hunt ones to give to my clara and seele. The nihility one sounds cool though. Might build sampo and luka in the future but I didn't pick kafka so i may out them on hold.
I'll probably grab geppy lc from store (very close now) for my MC and slap landaus on fu. I need the destruction lc for my Danny boi as the only other option I have is the moles lc(which still isn't levelled up)
I'm not so sure about the Herta Lightcone for Fu Xuan because of the wording. Both gaining the shield as well as the dmg reduction state that she needs to be attacked for it to apply, but without Landau's Choice or Gepard's LC she has no boost to her taunt value, so she isn't that likely to be attacked :-/ I'm considering what to get myself, either Nihility for Kafka and put that S5 GNSW back on Welt or the Preservation one for Fu Xuan. (or maybe even the Destruction LC for Jingliu)
I’m not understanding the logic. She’s a preservation unit. He did a video about Blade that went over taunt values. Preservation units have the highest taunt value in the game. Higher than all the other paths. They don’t need a specific LC to boost their values over other unit when I believe they all sit at 150 taunt value. Also because her kit allows her to share her allies’ damage, it will be just like in SU when their hits will also be a hit to her when the damage is shared.
@@GlamazonJay If the damage redirection counts as an attack on her then sure, all is fine. But in case it doesn't: In a normal team the Preservation unit only roughly has a 35% change to be targeted, that isn't that high. Edit: @KazamiKeitaro: Well, that's good to hear. Let's hope it stays like that ^^
Blackcloak is right. I played Gepart without his LC for months until some weeks ago. I got to my second 5 star on the standard banner and it was Geparts LC. Maxed it out and instantly noticed how Gepart gets attacked much, much more. I had a team for MoC with a Gepart, Yanqing and I used a Clara for the adds. I can't use Clara anymore. Clara will just never be attacked :/ Also before I had his LC it could happen that a boss would target my low hp sups and carries. Not very often but it happend from time to time. Since Gepart has his LC this happens so rare, I don't even get mad about it anymore.
One lightcone I'm extremely interested in is Defense, it has the second highest HP for the preservation lightcones, and the passive is amazing. 30% Max HP heal for every ult use, which I believe could work well for her kit, since she's made to take most of the damage, and heal. If her passive can't keep up with the enemies, then this lightcone could be magic. The damage reduction and effect-res lightcones are probably better though. One team I'm thinking of is a FuXuan triple support team. She CAN deal damage with her basics and autos, and probably can solo sustain. Pair her with Pela, Silver Wolf, and Bronya, and it could be interesting. It's definitely not going to outdamage insane comps, but if it can clear MOC well enough, I see it as a win. We don't have teams with a triple de/buff setup, so I feel like it has potential.
You think, On the Fall of an Atom- could work for Jingliu as well? I know she is way far but I am considering- this or nihility one for Kafka My first herta light cone was the preservation one S5 for Gepard but now it's not so useful now since I got gepard's signature LC
Does moles welcome you work that well for Dan since it says uses atk, skill, ult, to attack enemy for the stacks, but Dans skill doesn't attack it enhances his normal, so wouldn't he only get 2 stacks for moles welcome you? Or does it still build stacks with 2nd uses of normal/ults? Its not so clear I asume its only 1 stack per each individual use of atk/skill/ult.
Does Jingliu works well with the Fall of Aeon LC or should I invest my other herta bonds on something else? I'm full skipping on this banner because I really love Jingliu and I'm thinking of buying the Herta Destruction LC for her since I'm pretty short on Destruction LC in my account
So is S5 fermata or the new 5 star light cone at s5 better on Kafka?? For now I'm running Kafka as a breaker on my team because my D.O.T team isn't ready,but for both cases which light cone is better
The 5 star light cone is just a better fermata. If you are using kafka as your dedicated breaker then yes it will be better than fermata, but otherwise its not great for her. Especially if you have GnSw
I have Kafka, Sampo, Silver Wolf, Pela, and Welt bulit and am offically out of LC's for them to use. My poor Pela was getting oneshotted with the 3*. Really glad the for the new LC.
I feel like me and Smack know the potential of Silver Wolf and Fu Xuan. If there's a character with unique mechanics like Luocha or Silver Wolf, they gotta be cracked.
On Kafka account I will be running Fu Xuan with S5 Textures of Memories deffo, however, on my JY account, I am debating if I am going to try and pick DHIL's lightcone, especially if it helps with his potential ER problems. I am skipping 1.4 in regards to 5*, though I might be inclined to do a few 10 pulls in case the 4* are good.
for selee I've never use the cruising in the stellar sea bc i have the sleep like the dead and i actually reached 70% crut rate for selee for the arena set with 160-170 critdmg
I'm torn between the destruction and preservation, but I'll figure that out after Fu Xuan's banner. I have S5 Day One which honestly sounds pretty crazy on her, but I'd need to try it out.
I've gotta save my resources to get it R5, but once I do this is gonna replace my LC for Sampo easily. I have his LC at R4 already, but I think this will help with my Kafka team a lot more
Cool to know! Iknow I’ll have enough tickets saved up for an E1 Fu Xuan but if I don’t get lucky for her signature, I’ll pick up 5 copies of that other from from the shop then 😝 I use maxed out destruction one for Clara atm until I get her signature
It is very useful to know that the new 5 star Nihility light cone is better on Sampo and Luka than Kafka since every Kafka main is using all three. Thanks bro
I think i have a pretty good reason why Day one of my new life>texture of memories for fuxuan def is whatever like cool i guess but the team wide dmg resistance increase is amazing, why? if team takes less damage then she takes less redirected damage, that on top of having her own resistances increased with some extra def + her kit with heal back to full should be more than enough to keep her alive, meanwhile if you want to use her as solo sustain then texture of memories does nothing to improve that, it helps her sure but it doesnt help with keeping team alive in any way, meanwhile day one does help by reducing damage that others take thoughts?
As a completely f2p who currently has a garuantee and saving it for 1.3, can someone give me some general advice on what I need more? E6 F MC, Welt, E1 Yukong, Blade, E2 Natasha (Lost 50-50 on Luocha so rip), E2 DH, E2 Sampo, YanQing, Clara, E4 QQ, E5 Pela, Serval, E3 Herta, E1 Asta, E2 M7, E1 Sushang, E1 Luka, E1 Arlan. Only 5 star LC is Welt's. I'm thinking going Fu Xuan for sustain currently. Not a fan of YQ being my other 5* DPS though, he's not versatile enough for my taste.
Dps char wise you already have Blade&Yanqing so i don't think you have a problem on that category, if i were you i'll go for fuxuan because she can be put almost in any team.
@@rz3264 Ya, I thought about that even though YQ's value is falling off as time goes on and IL's won't I imagine due to first true imaginary dps but the sp consumption I don't think I could maintain outside of pela/asta with my current teams and eidolons and as such, hence my lean towards her but I'm still unsure so that's why I'm asking, the more opinions I have the better and more informed my decision and more angles I have to look at but like Smack said, IL's a character you want but not "need" and as much as i love his design, the desire to pull and personal bias for the cool factor, I'd rather actually make a decision of value for what I have.
Yanging isn't falling off. He can still clear the same content as before. People seem to forget this. Game can be completed with 4 star characters. Nobody is "falling off"
Even though I don't Have Kafka may get this LC for a Break Effect Luka eventually. May get the Hunt one this time around just cuz I'd take that for Future Hunt Characters or Seele's rerun I'm interested in.
since im going for IL the destruction lightcone will be a good pick up(im ftp) i plan on getting him and if i get him early enough put the rest into fu xaun. also thank you for all the guides you do
I was trying to find this information out but could not find it anywhere and I didn't have any luck on my own trying to test this in simulated Universe with the destruction share damage blessing. Will textures of memories effects proc on shared damage since it reads when attacked? I tried to test it myself but the one time I actually managed to get somebody other than gepard to be attacked I think that the shield was on cooldown so I'm not sure if it works or not.
So if I have “sleep like the dead” and the Herta shop hunt light come which one is better on Seele. Sleep isn’t superimposed at all and the Herta lightcone is currently S2
My boy I just sat through a painful AFK arena “you have 5 million power!?!? Naniiiii how!!!” AD just for you. Support the creator! 🙏🏼 thanks for the info here deff going for the preservation
The Under the Blue Sky Lc at S5 performs 1% less than the S5 Fall of an Aeon LC it's not really a significant change so I believe you're doing the right call in investing for the preservation LC instead
3* with 30℅ hp recovery per ultimate - really good too. 950 hp lvl 80, difference with Herta isn't big enough if you need another 5* from shop badly. People don't sleep on this one!
i will be saving 8 just to grab it at 0 and keep on getting my Seeles hunt one to +5 as i never went for her signuture ligh cone and is the best i got for her after we'll see
I'm still using the Herta Hunt LC S5 on Seele but the "Sleep like the Dead" is now my third 5-star pull on the basic banner... I'm hoping to shift her relics to make use of it but I need to farm more (the life of an F2P crit unit player 😅) Actually all the Herta LC have their use which is sooooo nice! If I get Imbibitor Lunae (really hoping on that 50/50 since the Luocha banner) I'm more likely going for the Herta Destruction cone. I have Under the Blue Sky at S2 but my relics are leaning to more crit rate right now and Atk% is hard to get on the sets I have, I've been farming for him this whole patch after finishing up my other unit basic builds with "WHATEVER FITS" relics. 😂My Asta (only built fire unit) and Welt are making use of the Cavering farming though for Imbibitor Lunae. 🥰
As a DoT enjoyer (and one who will have all dot focused units in the future) I’d say use Herta Shop LC on whosever breaking. This LC should be BiS on the DoT character breaking otherwise Sampo’s EotP will perform better. Only “problem” on Sampo is you’ll probably have to run EHR body piece instead of ATK if you switch off EotP, but it should still be fine if he’s building for break.
Do lightcones (LC) need to be maxed to superimpose? I have 2 copies of a few different 4 star LC and the game says no items are available when I try to superimpose. The only LC I was able to superimpose was the event one where we got the tickets to upgrade (Hey, Over Here LC)
Is the shield from the texture if memories light cone last for a couple of turns so it will have long uptime for it "once every 3 turns" effect? Or does the cd not matter for fu xuan?
I don't have "good night and sleep well" nor her signature, they're gatchas light cones, I've been using Fermata on her, should I change to the new herta's then? (Sampo uses his signature and Luka also uses his signature)
I’d say use Herta’s on whichever unit is breaking the bosses/elites and give EotP to other unit not breaking. Fighting a boss weak to wind? I’d slap Herta shop LC on Sampo and give EotP to Kafka since the DoT damage increase will be really helpful. In general though The Herta LC will be nice on Kafka. Testing showed that it performed better than Fermata so it is an upgrade for sure.
sad that Sworplay LC didn't come home when i roll 😢, thats why among my Hunt chars, they're alwys sharing that Cruising LC sadly :'D, the next one i have is the Subscribe For More LC and Rivers Flow in Spring LC.....
I also got under the sky s5 too, and im using clara. Some tc calc said it 5% worse than the f2p destruction lc from the herta store, so i won't bother buying the herta one😅 That being said, im gonna pick up the preservation one for my fuxuan just like you i presume. (I haven't finished watching the vid yet)
very nice info about that LC on fu xuan im going for her so i'll get her.Thank u once again smack Very helpful info but as far kafka and if that weapon is good for her your arguement is have a LC that u may or may not have aka either her signature light cone or good night sleep well.Very bad arguement and huge L imo as far as if that LC is good for kafka.Not everyone have GNSW.I would love to hear an more in depth opinion about light cones for kafka that isnt "have a light cone by putting 16000 jades for it" or "be lucky".I feel like u gave a lot of info on all LC but the nihility LC and why its not that good for kafka + alternative options that are viable not rng.Much love man
No. She doesn't have DoT, so she isn't benefiting from 2 out of 3 effects on it. The Herta LC is best used on DoT characters that are also your Breaker.
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Another thing that's nice is the effect res from Texture of Memories plus her traces means she can activate the cdmg on broken keel really easily
@@itargetlockclowns i think for a mono quantum hp% is better because of lynx ult cleanse + fuxuan resist CC
I just realized in Swordplay lc Sushang is holding Luocha sword
Susan be like "What's this heresy? A filthy DEX weapon? Pfffffffftrrrr"
Her sword is bigger 😏
He seemed like the type to let her have a look at it. His sword…
I understand why people find TOM so good on fu xuan, it's undeniably perfect if you want herself to get tankier and the effect res is good for keel.
But here's my take after seeing leak showcases:
She is genuinely immortal and has so much more self healing than she provides to her team that they will literally die before her despite the huge mitigation she provides.
So more taunt value is definitely good even for her, and it helps fueling her ult as well
Yeah, I agree with this.
That's why Landau's Choice or Gepard's Sig LC would be better for her imo.
Tho if you are against AoE nukes like Yanqing's, you might need some more hp% or def% substats (which are easy to get) to survive if she was at 51% of her hp.
But in most cases, you won't really reach exactly at 51% hp, so it's still okay to get other substats like Effect Res or crit.
I absolutely agree with this, Landau or Moment of Victory are the correct choice
nah i'm good TOM>Any other 4 star LC
@@kenkaneki3873 🤡me when i spread missinformation
@@chadikhr7258 landau is just as good imo they both have their own advantage TOM=self tankier landau=more team mitigation
This lc is awesome for Sampo/Luka. Also you are one of the rare ppl who understands Fu Xuan's value. Good to see some smart ppl in hsr community.
Bro I think EVERYONE knows how good she is but for some reason I'm still skipping her
Because people place value in being able to get the biggest number on screen than utility/support units like Fu Xuan
I agree with you
Wait there's people who think she's trash?
There’s definitely people thinking Dan is more valuable due to his big dmg
@JordanII. There is this certain yt commenter (forgot their name) that always says, "Fu Xuan is trash and ain't worth it, cuz March 7th is all you need, and better than Fu Xuan".
You might see them in some Fu Xuan related videos.
Fall of the Aeon is also BiS for Clara if you don't have her signature. I'm gonna go for the preservation one for Fu because I've been blessed with great hunt and nihility light cones so far
Yeah but she really needs a cone like a destruction Texture of Memories or her sig.
Not many real options since she wants pretty much every stat.
Want to add correction to the moles welcome you LC. To achieve the max stack you need to attack using basic, skill, and ult each one cause they are counted as one stack. As Imbibitor lunae dont have attacking skill, that LC will permanently have 2 stack. I believe it was due to mistranslation from the CN and it was already tested that it work this way. Except that every explanation is spot on, well done
Oh damn, nice catch!
yeah it's like for Clara, she can only get 2 stacks
Because Gepard was my first star in the game from the beginner banner, the preservation LC was the first one I got out of Herta shop AND I just S5’d it this week. I was already hoping I get his signature (since standard gave him to me three times) so I can move around all the preservation units LC. Now after watching this, I need his LC more than ever so she can get Herta’s. I have the other Herta LC at S1. I wanted to S5 the preservation one first before I started saving for the Nihility one.
You should have moved on when landau arrived, unless it hasnt😂
Since I refined the Destruction LC first to rank 5, i will be set for Jingliu. And thankfully for my Fu Xuan, by the time she comes I'll have the Preservation one at rank 4. Herta really carrying us rn
Also I really like Smack's approach of "it won't be easy to pull off but if you do, greatness awaits"
Thanks for making the Honkai experience so amazing with your videos. You really hit the nail with many of your opinions and observations about the game, characters and so on. Keep the outstanding work going please! God bless you :)
Appreciate your insight on this. Being F2P makes getting light cones a bit more difficult so it's very much appreciated that you include F2P options. Great vid
I know Smack doesn't play Clara but for you Clara enjoyers out there On the Fall of an Aeon is excellent for her as well if you don't have her signature
Exactly! I got it as first LC for Herta shop, because of Clara
Good information, thank you!
Incredibly informative. This video is very specific and you won't find another one like it. Thanks for the advice.
There's one other light cone for Fu Xuan I'd like to add for F2P players you didn't mention, which is the 3 Star Light Cone *Defense.* The effect at S5 is casting her burst will heal 30% of her max HP, so if all you care about is survivability and either can't get the cone in Herta's shop or are considering another, this feels like a decent alternative.
Damn this seems like a good option. Does this heal only the user or party wide ? I could use this since I only have Natasha and she just can't keep up with Blade. I know lynx is going to be released soon and looks promising but she's a four star and you never know if you're gonna get her or not.
@@Grey.the.Gandalff Only the user. It's a 3 star LC, after all. But so long as Fu Xuan can keep herself alive to keep redirecting damage and she has some more party sustainability tools in her kit (which I'm guessing is the case as we do not know her ascension passives yet) this LC will be at least a very good F2P option
Thanks for the detailed commentary handsome, also i like the song Beneath The Mask in the background
Thank you so much for this video! I finally have enough bonds to choose and fully S5 a herta LC and I’ve been stuck for days trying to decide. I’m 100% going for Fu Xuan so the preservation LC looks like the pick!
I think that Fu Xuan don't need the herta preservation light cone because she's already almost unkillable even without it. At like 8 or 9k HP and if she's at the worst HP cap before taking a big hit (50,01%) she needs to take >4000dmg in one single hit to be killed after all her damage mitigation (from her skill, march lightcone, mate def, her Def). Only huge aoe dmg on all the team like the deer ultralaser attack can kill her at the moment, and maybe one other attack in the game (the big robot ass attack ?).
The team mates, however, can be killed little by little and to avoid that you can reduce the dmg they take with the march light cone by 8% at S1 + invest into max HP and healing output on Fu Xuan because her ult scales on MaxHP and Healing Output, the healing output is also more efficient than a HP% piece to increase healing by a lot. Maybe she even can be played with 2pc heal + 2pc HP% with heal main stat on armor for more efficiency.
If we consider all the damage mitigation of Fu Xuan on the entire team, when she heal like 700/800 Hp per ult to all team mates it's like she's healing +2-3k hp for each without the mitigation.
So I don't think she needs the shield of the herta lc, she needs a lot of HP and invest the rest into healing and the march light cone might be better for team survivabilty.
But the sign LC of Fu Xuan is really strong, HP% and Energy Regen for spamming ult and healing + Dmg increase on all team just by her presence is huge for a sustain character. Definitively will try to pull it.
There's one thing I'm not entirely sure on with Texture of Memories
Based on some...Dreams...tbat we had, Fu Xuan doesn't really seem like she has any issue with taking damage herself, it's the rest of the team.
So personally I'd lean towards Landau or Moment of Victory for the taunt so that the team get's attacked less and based on every Dream I had Fu Xuan herself is fully capable of being attacked without dying
Fu xsuan will lose stacks faster and hp too + herta lc boos her hp wich she scale tremedlously well 😅
@@kitsuchii6809 I don't really think she's going to loose stacks faster from what I saw in my Dreams infact stack managament seems fairly chill, her dmg reduction is just that good
@@kenkaneki3873 if she gets targeted more she gonna lose hp faster and trigger stack faster xD
In short rotation shure but each turn make this lc less good + base hp is lower and if i remember relics use base and lc hp to scale
Thanks, I honestly didn’t expect to learn anything but I totally slept on the preservation light cone. It’s actually pretty good for Fu Xuan
You’re always on time with the videos I need.
Damn… texture of memories is actually pretty cracked on fu xuan. I’m low key thinking hoyo released IL and fu xuan for the secondary effects of having herta’s other light cones being used HAHAHAH
It would make sense because I remember when the game first came out everyone was dogging those LC and even dragged Mtashed about the Destruction one
i appreciate the thoughts man cuz i was ganna pick up the new lightcone but im saving for Fu Xuan and shes 100% coming home and i was not considering the preservation lightcone on hertas shop so thanks for shedding some light on it. Love the vids and keep up to good work Smack
You are the best HSR youtuberb out there! Great content as always!
I'm a newer player so I just started superimposing my nihility lc for my Luka (Sampo already has eyes of prey while my Luka had fermata so I swapped that out). I will definitely refer to this again when I'm done with that.
Great video smack, I really need it 🎊 🎉
i've only picked the hunt light cone (s5) bc i got seele, and now i almost have enough currency to directly buy a s5 herta's shop light cone. since i have a lvl 80 s3 landau's, that's gonna be what i'll be using for fu xuan; and although i have a s4 under the blue sky, i'm buying s5 aeon for imbibitor, as i looked at some theorycraft and it looks like it's gonna be 2nd BiS for him
9:45 excellent summary 💜
Getting Aeon rn for him but for sure gonna use Texture for Fu Xuan later. I have a leveled Landau right now but def will try for Texture
I was literally thinking how texture of memories is the best option for Fu Xuan today andthis video appears, good timing my man
Smack, there have been speculations wether the attacked party members DEF value will be calculated into the damage or always fu xuans DEF value. As of now people think that fu xuans DEF doesnt matter for damage she takes from allied members taking hits, so that should be taken into account when picking her light cone and substats
Im glad the nihility cone is as good as it is to be honest, it workkng for both of Kafkas main subs is also super nice from a cost effect standpoint, so long as you aremt double sub dpsing its one cones worth of investment for 2+ characters assuming future phys / wind nihility subs
@gacha smack will fu xuan be good for blade ?? pls help
So is S5 solitary healing better or S5 fermata? Im building my kafka with crit to be used with tingyun, instead of sampo and luka.
Edit: I don't have GNSW or Eyes of the prey.
Fermata. solitary healing is good for sanpo i think. even luka seems to take a while to get his ultimate which makes it hard to use.
Man I wish I'd have seen this video sooner. I have Herta strore's nihility cone at s4 while my other nihility cones are good enough if not better and realise that I have no cone for Fu Xuan at all. I think this might be the first time I'll pull on the weapon banner on the leftovers, gotta make it work somehow
Already building the Preservation one since I got enough to guarantee FuXuan.
Though somehow I'm still worried that she won't quite solo sustain that easily.
Since the team will still take some damage and her heal seems quite small, I'm not really convinced yet that the team won't just slowly die.
That said I'm 100% getting her regardless, since her design & animations are awesome and I REALLY need a sustain that's not called Natasha or March or .. Clara? KEKL
Guess I will find out if she'll finally allow me to 3 star MoC 7+ or if I have to pray even harder to get relics that aren't dogwater so my Seele starts hitting a bit harder than a wet noodle =/
God I wish there were artifact routes in HSR. After doing them for years in Genshin, F2P in HSR really feels like I can't level anything that's not already starting out with amazing base rolls.
Even if the team *is* slowly dying, as long as it's dying slower than the enemy is dying then she should be able to solo sustain lmao
Not gonna lie. I invested all of my herta points on the preservation one for my mc, thinking it was good, but then I got a better one. I'm so happy to see that investment will be good on one of my favorite characters. Great vid big bro👍
I was lucky enough to get gepard and his LC. I picked the destruction and hunt ones to give to my clara and seele. The nihility one sounds cool though. Might build sampo and luka in the future but I didn't pick kafka so i may out them on hold.
I'll probably grab geppy lc from store (very close now) for my MC and slap landaus on fu. I need the destruction lc for my Danny boi as the only other option I have is the moles lc(which still isn't levelled up)
I was thinking the same thing for Texture of Memories, as a potential Fu Xuan getter.
I'm not so sure about the Herta Lightcone for Fu Xuan because of the wording. Both gaining the shield as well as the dmg reduction state that she needs to be attacked for it to apply, but without Landau's Choice or Gepard's LC she has no boost to her taunt value, so she isn't that likely to be attacked :-/
I'm considering what to get myself, either Nihility for Kafka and put that S5 GNSW back on Welt or the Preservation one for Fu Xuan. (or maybe even the Destruction LC for Jingliu)
I’m not understanding the logic. She’s a preservation unit. He did a video about Blade that went over taunt values. Preservation units have the highest taunt value in the game. Higher than all the other paths. They don’t need a specific LC to boost their values over other unit when I believe they all sit at 150 taunt value. Also because her kit allows her to share her allies’ damage, it will be just like in SU when their hits will also be a hit to her when the damage is shared.
Preservation have the highest agro so she is very likely to get hit. She just need to get hit once to get the full effect. 32%hp shield is huge
@@GlamazonJay If the damage redirection counts as an attack on her then sure, all is fine.
But in case it doesn't: In a normal team the Preservation unit only roughly has a 35% change to be targeted, that isn't that high.
Edit: @KazamiKeitaro: Well, that's good to hear. Let's hope it stays like that ^^
Blackcloak is right. I played Gepart without his LC for months until some weeks ago. I got to my second 5 star on the standard banner and it was Geparts LC.
Maxed it out and instantly noticed how Gepart gets attacked much, much more. I had a team for MoC with a Gepart, Yanqing and I used a Clara for the adds. I can't use Clara anymore. Clara will just never be attacked :/
Also before I had his LC it could happen that a boss would target my low hp sups and carries. Not very often but it happend from time to time. Since Gepart has his LC this happens so rare, I don't even get mad about it anymore.
@@Noqtis To be fair, Gepard already has a 300% taunt boost in his traces, but, yeah, the LC still helps. 🙂
This was an awesome video, I appreciate when you're more on your teacher shit than when you are on your salty shit
One lightcone I'm extremely interested in is Defense, it has the second highest HP for the preservation lightcones, and the passive is amazing. 30% Max HP heal for every ult use, which I believe could work well for her kit, since she's made to take most of the damage, and heal. If her passive can't keep up with the enemies, then this lightcone could be magic. The damage reduction and effect-res lightcones are probably better though.
One team I'm thinking of is a FuXuan triple support team. She CAN deal damage with her basics and autos, and probably can solo sustain. Pair her with Pela, Silver Wolf, and Bronya, and it could be interesting. It's definitely not going to outdamage insane comps, but if it can clear MOC well enough, I see it as a win. We don't have teams with a triple de/buff setup, so I feel like it has potential.
Also what tour thoughts on buoldong 30% effect ress on your tanks set?
You think, On the Fall of an Atom- could work for Jingliu as well? I know she is way far but I am considering- this or nihility one for Kafka
My first herta light cone was the preservation one S5 for Gepard but now it's not so useful now since I got gepard's signature LC
Does moles welcome you work that well for Dan since it says uses atk, skill, ult, to attack enemy for the stacks, but Dans skill doesn't attack it enhances his normal, so wouldn't he only get 2 stacks for moles welcome you?
Or does it still build stacks with 2nd uses of normal/ults? Its not so clear I asume its only 1 stack per each individual use of atk/skill/ult.
Yes, this was tested. Unfortunately it won’t work. Smack just didn’t know
Does Jingliu works well with the Fall of Aeon LC or should I invest my other herta bonds on something else? I'm full skipping on this banner because I really love Jingliu and I'm thinking of buying the Herta Destruction LC for her since I'm pretty short on Destruction LC in my account
If her damage scales off of attack then it should be solid
She scales off on attack, so yes, you can use it on her.
So is S5 fermata or the new 5 star light cone at s5 better on Kafka?? For now I'm running Kafka as a breaker on my team because my D.O.T team isn't ready,but for both cases which light cone is better
The 5 star light cone is just a better fermata. If you are using kafka as your dedicated breaker then yes it will be better than fermata, but otherwise its not great for her. Especially if you have GnSw
I have Kafka, Sampo, Silver Wolf, Pela, and Welt bulit and am offically out of LC's for them to use. My poor Pela was getting oneshotted with the 3*. Really glad the for the new LC.
I feel like me and Smack know the potential of Silver Wolf and Fu Xuan. If there's a character with unique mechanics like Luocha or Silver Wolf, they gotta be cracked.
On Kafka account I will be running Fu Xuan with S5 Textures of Memories deffo, however, on my JY account, I am debating if I am going to try and pick DHIL's lightcone, especially if it helps with his potential ER problems. I am skipping 1.4 in regards to 5*, though I might be inclined to do a few 10 pulls in case the 4* are good.
Gotta farm for 6 weeks to get that one now that I've messed up and got Cruising as my first :D. Thanks for the info
for selee I've never use the cruising in the stellar sea bc i have the sleep like the dead and i actually reached 70% crut rate for selee for the arena set with 160-170 critdmg
I'm torn between the destruction and preservation, but I'll figure that out after Fu Xuan's banner. I have S5 Day One which honestly sounds pretty crazy on her, but I'd need to try it out.
I've gotta save my resources to get it R5, but once I do this is gonna replace my LC for Sampo easily. I have his LC at R4 already, but I think this will help with my Kafka team a lot more
Cool to know! Iknow I’ll have enough tickets saved up for an E1 Fu Xuan but if I don’t get lucky for her signature, I’ll pick up 5 copies of that other from from the shop then 😝
I use maxed out destruction one for Clara atm until I get her signature
It is very useful to know that the new 5 star Nihility light cone is better on Sampo and Luka than Kafka since every Kafka main is using all three. Thanks bro
Love Texture of Memories. I've had it at S5 for a while now and use it on Fire MC. It's a really good light cone.
I think i have a pretty good reason why Day one of my new life>texture of memories for fuxuan
def is whatever like cool i guess but the team wide dmg resistance increase is amazing, why? if team takes less damage then she takes less redirected damage, that on top of having her own resistances increased with some extra def + her kit with heal back to full should be more than enough to keep her alive, meanwhile if you want to use her as solo sustain then texture of memories does nothing to improve that, it helps her sure but it doesnt help with keeping team alive in any way, meanwhile day one does help by reducing damage that others take
thoughts?
Finally, the Herta Preservation LC has a worthy wielder.
Hey Smack! I have the March7th LC at Lv80 S5 (game was just like take this), do u think it's better to use it or to invest into herta's one?
If you are talking about "Day One of My New Life", and if it's for Fu Xuan, then yes, it is a good pick for her.
As a completely f2p who currently has a garuantee and saving it for 1.3, can someone give me some general advice on what I need more?
E6 F MC, Welt, E1 Yukong, Blade, E2 Natasha (Lost 50-50 on Luocha so rip), E2 DH, E2 Sampo, YanQing, Clara, E4 QQ, E5 Pela, Serval, E3 Herta, E1 Asta, E2 M7, E1 Sushang, E1 Luka, E1 Arlan.
Only 5 star LC is Welt's.
I'm thinking going Fu Xuan for sustain currently. Not a fan of YQ being my other 5* DPS though, he's not versatile enough for my taste.
Dps char wise you already have Blade&Yanqing so i don't think you have a problem on that category, if i were you i'll go for fuxuan because she can be put almost in any team.
@@rz3264 Ya, I thought about that even though YQ's value is falling off as time goes on and IL's won't I imagine due to first true imaginary dps but the sp consumption I don't think I could maintain outside of pela/asta with my current teams and eidolons and as such, hence my lean towards her but I'm still unsure so that's why I'm asking, the more opinions I have the better and more informed my decision and more angles I have to look at but like Smack said, IL's a character you want but not "need" and as much as i love his design, the desire to pull and personal bias for the cool factor, I'd rather actually make a decision of value for what I have.
Yanging isn't falling off. He can still clear the same content as before. People seem to forget this.
Game can be completed with 4 star characters. Nobody is "falling off"
@@jamess359 Jingliu does make him seem that way.
@@zeauli No, she doesn't. YQ will still do the same shit and complete the same content as before. That isn't "falling off"
2:52 As somebody who is licking Fu Xuan, i agree with that
What about break effect silverwolf for that nihility light cone?
Even though I don't Have Kafka may get this LC for a Break Effect Luka eventually. May get the Hunt one this time around just cuz I'd take that for Future Hunt Characters or Seele's rerun I'm interested in.
attempted break effect luka but not going well haha he is doing better as standard crit. not a kafka team btw
since im going for IL the destruction lightcone will be a good pick up(im ftp) i plan on getting him and if i get him early enough put the rest into fu xaun. also thank you for all the guides you do
i think so too since secret vow is extremely powerful but IL doesnt have hp reducing mechnics to bring out its full power. Fall of Aeon might be good
@@sirmister9099 that's true
Any real comparisons over Moment of Victory over TOM for fu xuan?
I was thinking of getting the new nihelity LC for silver wolf, and give the F2P silver wolf LC for Welt or Pela, will this work out or not?
No. Silverwolf doesn't have any DoT.
I was trying to find this information out but could not find it anywhere and I didn't have any luck on my own trying to test this in simulated Universe with the destruction share damage blessing. Will textures of memories effects proc on shared damage since it reads when attacked? I tried to test it myself but the one time I actually managed to get somebody other than gepard to be attacked I think that the shield was on cooldown so I'm not sure if it works or not.
Inbibitor is so cool, but im afraid that the 40+ pulls(78pityguranteed) wont reach Fuxuan if i pick him up
On the fall of an aeon might be good for jingliu since she's a destruction character
Aeon S5 is amazing for Clara enjoyers ~
So if I have “sleep like the dead” and the Herta shop hunt light come which one is better on Seele. Sleep isn’t superimposed at all and the Herta lightcone is currently S2
My boy I just sat through a painful AFK arena “you have 5 million power!?!? Naniiiii how!!!” AD just for you. Support the creator! 🙏🏼 thanks for the info here deff going for the preservation
The Under the Blue Sky Lc at S5 performs 1% less than the S5 Fall of an Aeon LC it's not really a significant change so I believe you're doing the right call in investing for the preservation LC instead
I saw a calculation that they can even perform the same, so like is an amazing option and makes dan heng easier to build
I'm so glad he pronounces Imbibitor correctly literally no other RUclipsr does
Will the new nihility LC be good for break effect silver wolf?
I have a S4 landaus choice so I’ll probably stick that on her
3* with 30℅ hp recovery per ultimate - really good too. 950 hp lvl 80, difference with Herta isn't big enough if you need another 5* from shop badly. People don't sleep on this one!
i will be saving 8 just to grab it at 0 and keep on getting my Seeles hunt one to +5 as i never went for her signuture ligh cone and is the best i got for her after we'll see
Can you do the same type of video for Battle Pass Light Cones?
i have fermata on sampo and sampo lc on luka would going for the herta lc be that much of an upgrade???
Sushang skill ult skill is sooo goood with swordplay
I'm still using the Herta Hunt LC S5 on Seele but the "Sleep like the Dead" is now my third 5-star pull on the basic banner... I'm hoping to shift her relics to make use of it but I need to farm more (the life of an F2P crit unit player 😅) Actually all the Herta LC have their use which is sooooo nice!
If I get Imbibitor Lunae (really hoping on that 50/50 since the Luocha banner) I'm more likely going for the Herta Destruction cone. I have Under the Blue Sky at S2 but my relics are leaning to more crit rate right now and Atk% is hard to get on the sets I have, I've been farming for him this whole patch after finishing up my other unit basic builds with "WHATEVER FITS" relics. 😂My Asta (only built fire unit) and Welt are making use of the Cavering farming though for Imbibitor Lunae. 🥰
I hoped for something for Welt, my best lc for him is s5 Loop :(,
but it looks very solid for dot / breakers.
I'm set then I have texture of memories maxed I run it on fire Mc. I also have sky maxed. So ill get the lf for sampo and Luka
I got s5 blue sky, the game also keeps giving me that LC. I have Gepard's LC, and got Cruising S5. My resources are saved for the nihility LC 🥰
Out of sampos sig lc s5 which would be better?
Im thinking 5 star LC on sampo and use sampos sig on Luka (currently using his own sig at s2)
As a DoT enjoyer (and one who will have all dot focused units in the future) I’d say use Herta Shop LC on whosever breaking. This LC should be BiS on the DoT character breaking otherwise Sampo’s EotP will perform better. Only “problem” on Sampo is you’ll probably have to run EHR body piece instead of ATK if you switch off EotP, but it should still be fine if he’s building for break.
Do lightcones (LC) need to be maxed to superimpose? I have 2 copies of a few different 4 star LC and the game says no items are available when I try to superimpose. The only LC I was able to superimpose was the event one where we got the tickets to upgrade (Hey, Over Here LC)
Is the shield from the texture if memories light cone last for a couple of turns so it will have long uptime for it "once every 3 turns" effect? Or does the cd not matter for fu xuan?
I S5'd the hunt one for my seele and honestly it's popping off
Her signature LC pops off even more 😁
I don't have "good night and sleep well" nor her signature, they're gatchas light cones, I've been using Fermata on her, should I change to the new herta's then? (Sampo uses his signature and Luka also uses his signature)
I’d say use Herta’s on whichever unit is breaking the bosses/elites and give EotP to other unit not breaking. Fighting a boss weak to wind? I’d slap Herta shop LC on Sampo and give EotP to Kafka since the DoT damage increase will be really helpful. In general though The Herta LC will be nice on Kafka. Testing showed that it performed better than Fermata so it is an upgrade for sure.
Is the new nihility LC better than a S5 eyes of prey on my Sampo?
if yours is already raised then this is optional/for luka
sad that Sworplay LC didn't come home when i roll 😢, thats why among my Hunt chars, they're alwys sharing that Cruising LC sadly :'D, the next one i have is the Subscribe For More LC and Rivers Flow in Spring LC.....
Is damage reduction (Bailu trace, Sampo trace, wuthering snow effect..) multiplicitive or additive?
I also got under the sky s5 too, and im using clara. Some tc calc said it 5% worse than the f2p destruction lc from the herta store, so i won't bother buying the herta one😅 That being said, im gonna pick up the preservation one for my fuxuan just like you i presume. (I haven't finished watching the vid yet)
I wonder which is more valuable for FX
E1 + ToM
E0 + Signature LC
Thoughts?
Is the new nihility light cone better than Fermata for Kafka Though? I dont have the other ones
very nice info about that LC on fu xuan im going for her so i'll get her.Thank u once again smack Very helpful info but as far kafka and if that weapon is good for her your arguement is have a LC that u may or may not have aka either her signature light cone or good night sleep well.Very bad arguement and huge L imo as far as if that LC is good for kafka.Not everyone have GNSW.I would love to hear an more in depth opinion about light cones for kafka that isnt "have a light cone by putting 16000 jades for it" or "be lucky".I feel like u gave a lot of info on all LC but the nihility LC and why its not that good for kafka + alternative options that are viable not rng.Much love man
Omg I completely forgot under the blue sky! 24% crit rate is huge, especially for a 4 star.
I like to play break effect sw would the 5 star weapon a good pick?
No. She doesn't have DoT, so she isn't benefiting from 2 out of 3 effects on it. The Herta LC is best used on DoT characters that are also your Breaker.
@@jamess359 thanks