Canon C200 SHOOTING MODES Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Breakdown of the various shooting modes of the Canon EOS C200 Cinema Camera. Examples of 12bit vs 10bit vs 8bit, and a few of the limitations this fantastic video camera has.
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The raw, the lighting, the grading.... all ridiculously good. Makes me happy with my purchase. What lighting and and post are you doing? please detail.
Thanks Made Prime! I've been working on my lighting a lot recently, and am really glad it comes across as professional. I made a youtube video talking about just these things here: ruclips.net/video/Ka0xcKoE1P8/видео.html The post process will be my next vid
No joke, his comment is spot on. The raw, lighting, and grading are all INCREDIBLE. This video, while just of your face, is awesome! Can't wait to see some real cinematic shots out of this thing. I feel like once you've seen the raw footage, you can't go back to the 8 or 10 bit. What kind of data does the RAW eat up?
Thank you! I feel addicted to Raw now, even though its overkill for a lot of what I do. I like having a workflow that I can use for bigger things. The size is about 500 gig per hour for raw. HUGE!
@@Crimsonengine Hi Ribidium, the Raw sharpness and colour is incredible. Please what render settings do you use for your output for RUclips (mp4? Settings?) Many thanks
this is the highest quality 1080p I have ever seen
Thanks! You should see the raw! If you're interested I can put up a link to download a part of the original file
Please!!!
i came down to the comments just to see if someone else noticed that. Im blown away with how sharp and clean it looks, ive never seen any 1080p video look so good before.
Thank you. It’s a combination of 12 bit color and bring able to post sharpen because of the lack of compression
@@Crimsonengine Did you add the same shapening in post to the 8 and 10 bit?
the raw footage is just sooo satisfying to look at😍
HOLY CRAP! The RAW recording is so goddamn sharp compared to the others!!
AndrewMurphyWA Is it due to resolution difference or compression?
@@loremipsumproductivityengi7552 Resolution, Bitrate & colour space.
Red weapon kingdom 😂. That was awesome.
RAW looks incredible!
This really brings home the colour differences of RAW, even on RUclips. Thank you!
Unlike some of the less kind comments below, I appreciate you putting this comparison together. I've owned a C200a for a few weeks and, like you, I'm searching for a good base setup. If you were using the 8 bit 420 proxy recording then I do think there's a concern about the comparison, because just from a resolution standpoint you'd then be comparing 4096x2160 RAW against 2048x1080 Proxy. To my eye the most striking difference between the RAW and the 8 bit footage is the detail and that could be explained by resolution alone (the RAW file contains approximately 4 time the number of pixels). Moreover, if if is the proxy, then we're seeing 1100 Mbps (RAW) against 35 Mbps (Proxy) - and put that way, it's actually fairly impressive how good the proxy looks at 1/30th the size.
With regard one of your comments, I thought you _can_ load LUTs onto the C200 but perhaps I'm incorrect in thinking that. I've been using it with the Atomos Ninja Inferno, onto which you can load custom LUT and I highly recommend it as a monitor, if nothing else. I've found the C200a monitor to be a bit uninspiring.
Lastly, however 'flawed' commenters might argue this comparison is, your footage is really great- lighting, composition, etc... I'm pleased to see someone is getting such great results out of a C200. I look forward to more of your work and, again, I appreciate you putting your footage out there.
You're very welcome. I'm surprised how many armchair cinematographers out there who don't even own this camera and never will feel the need to weigh in :) I'd love to see some of your footage. I plan on shooting a feature with this next year (I shot my previous feature with the c100 m1) and have a bunch of questions still to answer. More to come!
HAHAAHHA!!! "Armchair Cinematographers" is my new favorite term. Great review man.
Ok this is my last comment (I've left a couple...sorry), There are a LOT of people looking a this camera and deciding whether or not to buy it based on what the mp4 8bit looks like. You started your video off by stating how much misinformation is out there. I think it's seriously important that you go into youtube and add the fact that we're looking at 35mb 2k Proxy files and not the 4K 100mb files the camera is capable of. Your stuff looks great but you're doing exactly the opposite of what you set out to do! Holy crap! I thought I was watching a 4K video btw!
I have done a few more test since I shot this and am convinced that the only difference between the 2k proxies and the 4k mp4s is the size. There is no more color information, and once you downsize the 4k they look identical (this makes sense, since the proxies are just down sized by the camera). Both mp4s look great, they just don't have the colors or dynamic range of the raw (the camera only lets you use clog2, the widest log, in Raw and limits mp4 to clog3). Hope that helps!
Im blown away with how sharp and clean this video is for being 1080p! Never seen anything like it on youtube even when turning on 4k (on a 1080p monitor)
the detail in that raw image is amazing.
Those side by sides are the best comparison I've seen showing the differences in quality with the codecs so thank you.
Easily one of the best videos I've ever seen comparing formats. Thanks. Very excited to get a C200.
That RAW is the best quality video image I've ever seen.
Raw is extremely clean compared to the 2 others. Wow
I was like but this video is in 1080p and you look so damn sharp! And I noticed the colors, and I know a well lit face does all the difference but then the colors of your eyes, and I was like, how is this possible, then you explained and I was like why all the youtubers don't upload raw 12bit video footage, it's looks so damn good, what I noticed was that the 10bit and 8 bit, your face looks out of focus, when 12bit brings the focus all back on.
Rubidium, you have convinced me to buy the C200B. This video you made has the best quality image I have ever seen on RUclips. I was about to buy a Canon EOS R5, but after watching this video and the video you made using your LUT to match the Arri Alex Mini; you proved me with images that for $3999 the C200B is the best camera on the market even in late 2020. Oh, and I am also buying your LUT. Cheers to your success my friend! 🥇
Greatest test of all time. love it.
The sharpness is on another level o.O
I'm subscribing for the simple reason that your color grading is great!
Your skin tones are WAAAAAAAYYYY to MAGENTA..you can tell this wasn't filmed with an ARRI....what is annoying is everything else is how can i put this......PERFECT.
Thanks... I think :) Want to know something crazy? The magenta happened when I uploaded it to youtube. It just goes to show that at the end of the day, everything here gets recompressed and made 420 anyway. Check out a still from the original here: imgur.com/a/mi3Pn
The RAW one is the sharpest video I've seen on youtube on 1080p (or even 2160p)
Great videos on the C200. I'm coming to this world from photography [ where I'd never shoot a jpeg but always RAW ] and these videos are really helping me get my head around the basic issues of my new C200. Thank you ! Please do more
Thanks for the support, Kevin! Once you shoot Raw, its very hard to go back. I'm researching shooting a feature on the camera next year, and realized I'm going to have around 20 terabytes of footage that will need to be backed up multiple times. But that will mean I can remaster in HDR at a later date and lots of other options. Good luck with the new camera.
Best video I've seen. Genius.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOW this video really shows the difference in quality. Great job sir, this is very eye opening. Canon seems like an abusive relationship. Has some wonderful loving moment but not without the merciless beatings. and in the end you either accept the beating as worth the good times over the bad or walk away because the beatings are just not worth the few very great times.
Best review I have seen! Thank you so much !!!
After a few test shoots i have fallen in love with this camera. I love the size, the ergonomics, the auto focus and the image quality, but only the RAW footage. The 8 bit footage is the worse that I've ever seen. The lighting has to be "ideal" to get clean images. Tons of artifacts if you look closely. I hear people saying that the 8 bit is pretty good. I disagree. I wouldn't use it on a paid gig. Besides that, there is a lot to like. Now i need to spend what the camera cost me in Cfast 2.0 cards.
Thank you, this video helped me clear some doubt. I'm in the market for a more professional video-dedicated camera and I really like the C200 price point to features ratio. I was put off by its apparent lack of a middle ground option but the solutions you present are quite viable. I'm used to shooting ProRes 10-bit 4:2:2 for almost anything so I'd never get a camera which can't do that, RAW would probably be too much to handle for my laptop.
Lmao the" Red Weapon Kingdom.".. starts 99,000 for the handle only
So, I'm finding it really hard to find out it this camera actually can output a 422 10-bit 2k video signal over HDMI. I've read articles that say you can only output UHD over HDMI (not SDI), but I've also seen in the same articles that the only 422 10-bit output you can get is from the SDI port which doesn't make much sense. I know you say in this video that you can get 422 10-bit over HDMI or SDI, but could you confirm that it definitely works over HDMI? I also know that you recorded this video over SDI to the Video Assist. Was that just a personal preference of SDI over HDMI?
Basically, if this camera can record at least 2k over HDMI to my Ninja V external recorder then I'm sold. I'm renting it over the next while to shoot a project or two, but it would be great if you could say for definite that it does or doesn't support 2k 10-bit over HDMI. Thanks
Did you ever find the answer to this? I'm in the same boat
RAW is just breathtaking compared to anything else
I can't wait to get a C200.
Big thanks! What would be the best settings to shoot for a corporate (interview) type of shoot?
Red weapon kingdom 😂😂🤦🏾♂️ instant sub and like🙌🏾
Thanks! I feel bad for all those DPs trying to get cameras into foreign countries and forced to write 'RED Weapon' on the customs forms. Someone really should have thought that through :)
Crimson Engine Lool I can’t imaging there faces when it’s going through customs! However I love your lighting set ups and grades. It’s astonishing!
Thank you for this! This helped me a lot!
this is a great video, thanks for sharing!
Beautiful grading colours in raw
Fantastic demonstration of the differences in codec. The lack of internal 10 bit codec was a huge bummer for this camera, but I was starting to hear the 8 bit still holds up well. Seeing this disproves that. The RAW looks so fantastic it really shows how lacking the 8 bit is. I know they're trying to not cannibalize the C300II, but think that Canon made a big mistake not including a 10 bit internal codec on this camera along with the RAW. It's already a successful camera, but that would have made this one of their all time biggest selling cameras.
Agreed. I mean, their job is to sell cameras. Imagine shooting yourself in the foot like this? C200s would still be flying off the shelves like nobody's business.
There's no question the 8Bit colour looks slightly anemic and washed out. However, I have seen very, very, very, good 8 Bit cameras which would blow the C200 out of the water (In 8 Bit performance only, of course), one such camera is the Canon 1 D C, which features 8 Bit but not in 4.2.0 colour space - The Canon 1 D C records in 8 Bit 4:2:2 colour space @ 500 Mbps data rate (featuring 2 bits of colour information per pixel), as oppossed to the 4:2:0 format used on mirrorless digital cameras.
Hi, what advice do you have with sharpening on the C200?
I know this is such an old post but still viable today since the C200 can be obtained for a "song and a dance." Would you still consider the C200 a strong contender today, given the latest offerings from Black Magic? It's kind of nice to have codec options that don't break the bank for storage.
thanks
Best camera on the market for you...
Why does the raw look so much sharper, comparing the beard stubble in the three formats?
Its interesting, isn't it. All three have the same sharpening level. I think its possibly that the more color detail makes it look sharper.
Was the sharpness setting at 0 in the Canon Cinema Raw Development software?
I didn't use it. I imported the CRMs directly into resolve and graded there. check out ruclips.net/video/vLg98fMDF1s/видео.html
Just downloaded a sample raw clip and opened it in Resolve, it's strange that the raw development panel is greyed out. I wonder if it's applying some sort of default sharpening value?
Partly because he’s comparing a low bitrate proxy file (not the normal internal 4K file) to 12-bit raw.
Great video, thank you!
How is my 10bit monitor possible to show the difference to RAW?
I’m struggling to get the same sharp image you have here. Any tips on processing my C200 RAW footage for better sharpness? I’m currently grading with Premiere Pro.
The Raw detail on your face is night and day. The 420 8bit looks like my Canon 7D (yeah well not that bad... but when you compare it to the Raw - it's a real bummer.)
great video. Been making RUclips videos for years on DSLR's and am moving towards something like the C200 for better overall quality and flexibility when recording sound from multiple sources etc. The color grading, codec world, is still Greek to me although I get the overall idea. In your opinion, do short films necessarily have to be filmed in RAW. It looks as the mp4 quality is still off the charts and I wonder if the inconvenience and space of using RAW might make it too much a pain and expense to work with.
I want this Canon C200 mark 2 along with the canon 80D and the Nikon D750 and Sony A7iii
Thanks for this video. I also have this camera and love it. Do you have a link to your external recorder for the 10bit. Also, which LUTS are you using, 'Im impressed by how well you have been able to match them.
Thanks, informative.
Hey brother!
Thank you for this amazing video! Majority of the jobs that I shoot are documentary films, weddings, music videos, commercials! and short films.
I’m looking to purchase a cinema camera, I’m so confused don’t know what to buy.
However I’m on a budget.
Requirements:
240fps
Large censor
Internal raw recording
12bits colors
High dynamic range.
Thanks in advance🙏.
Frankly speaking i only had a look at the 12 bit footage its really impressive. Thanks for sharing this looking forward to more videos from your end and your journey with the C200 also i agree with your thoughts on getting just the body and saving those 1500 dollars. I would get a Ninja Inferno though to pair with it. C200 with its dual pixel AF makes it a great buy.
Even the 420 8 bit looks great
If you took all three clips straight out of the camera, and made sure that all settings (like sharpening, gamut, WB, etc.) were identical, then I don’t think we should be able to see any difference between the 3 here on youtube. Since we’re all watching this on 8-bit monitors, we can’t see the “extra colors,” and all three versions of the file would benefit equally from the extra color information attained from downsampling from UHD to 1080p.
If you were to color correct or grade the footage, then raw becomes much more valuable, and we could expect to see bigger differences- but for this test, I don’t think we should be seeing any differences if all variables were held constant. You may be testing RUclips’s ability to compress different codecs and their containers more than anything else (were you to substitute the proper 100mb/s 4K internal footage instead of using placeholder quality proxy footage).
Great Work :)
I remember this video you did from years ago. I wonder how the C70 will stack up to these shots being that it doesn't shoot RAW but it does 10bit internally.
Thanks very much for this. Someone I know who is fairly well connected told me Canon will be giving us a 10 bit internal codec by the end of the year. Let's hope that is true.
The quality of your videos is absolutely amazing.
Would you be able to get the same crisp image with a GH5? Would be really interesting to see the same setup with a GH5 and see the difference.
Thanks! I have to say I've never shot on the GH5 but I did just review the Eva1 and got something pretty close. Raw is a big factor in what I'm doing here with color depth.
two questions: 1.) Recoring 10 bit on an external recorder means that you can't have OSD on the outputs, so you have to alwys switch OSD on and off while shooting. Is this how you work or is there another solution? Thanks... 2.)Theres quite a difference in Sharpness and Quality between the 1080 (bad) and the 4k (good) mp4 recorded internally, as mentioned in many forums, wich has nothing to do with the lower resolution of the 1080 (but probably due to low quality internal render??). Did you experience someting similar when you record externally 1080 vs 4k?
I think you can control outputs separately if you have the c200 monitor. I have the 200b so the output and record stream are the same.
This was really helpful! Thank you so much for doing this, the one question I have is can you shoot 4k 10 bit with the Black Magic Work around?
Wasn’t sure if you meant that was only for 1080.
Thanks! The camera right now can only output 10 bit 1080 or 8 bit 4k. You can sign a petition here to pressure Canon to make ammends www.change.org/p/ceo-and-chariman-canon-usa
Hey Rubidium, i just love your channel. Please tell me why you prefer your background bouquet octagonal. I would have preferred a rounder bouquet. Is your octagonal bouquet deliberate?? Please don't get me wrong. Your channel is high quality and i have personally learnt a lot.
I looked through the comments to try and find my answer but couldn't quite find the clear answer I'm looking for so I thought I'd ask (forgive me if I missed the answer somewhere).
- Will the C200 record 4K 10bit 422 to a capable external recorder (like Ninja Flame) or will it only record 2K when set to output to the external recorder at 10bit 422?
- I've read.... if I want to record 10bit 422 to an external recorder, I can only do it in 2K. Is this true or can I get 10bit 422 4K to an external recorder?
Your video is a real eye opener and I'm learning a lot. Your answer would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
good morning thanks for Ur videos i have a problem with the HDMI output in 4K can u explane or do a video how to set it up right thank U
No worries. You have to enable 4k hdmi output in the camera setting and, you guessed it, it only works on HDMI and not SDI
I like this video. Cheers PaL. I think people are starting to understand that 10bit is a necessity for any additional post processing of video footage, which we all do. Ofcourse raw is the best. As long as there's the external recorder work-around to obtain 10bit, people will buy the c200. #EVA1 👍
Bobby Giggz have u tested the C100 Mark ii? The files are much lower quality, but dam.. the ability to colour correct those files is pretty amazing (for the price).
I understand colors are better in RAW. but why is the RAW in your video sharper aswell?
Because Raw isn't (highly) compressed, you can sharpen it in post and there are no compression artifacts to sharpen as well.
Lovely grading work and good explanation.
Just one question to clarify: the 10bit 422 in 2k. How the heck did you get your c200 to output 10bit 422 in 2k to an external recorder? I only seem to be able to get 4k (420 8bit) to my Shogun Flame or then an HD signal.
I'm sure it's cos it doesn't 'output' 10 bit. The recorder just records in 10 bit. But...if I'm wrong. I'll sell all my sony gear and buy this lol.
Hey Emanuel, sounded to me like he downscaled to 2k in post.
I'm pretty sure it does, for exampled hooked up to atamos Ninja V, but I dtill don't know for sure if it's true 422 10bit
@@TheJadedFilmMaker
So many things wrong with this video:
1. The 4:2:0 8 bit recorded at the same time as raw is a proxy format - it means it has far less bitrate and detail vs the regular uHD you record without RAW simultaneously2. Recording in 2k proxy and comparing it to DCI 4K RAW is completely disningenuous.
Get your fancy blackmagic, set it to uHD 4:2:0 8 bit and compare that to the RAW CROPPED to uHD. Guarantee it negates nearly all of what we’re seeing here.
Interesting. Make this video - I'll link to it in the description.
I agree with mattferg100. you cannot record raw and 420 8bit in 4k the same time! you should record a separate video in 4k MP4. The 420 8bit is a proxy and as far as i know its only in 2k(DCI)FHD resolution at 35Mbps Long-GOP. Love your lighting in this but please update with a new video. Thanks. more info here: learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2017/eos-c200-post-production-brief.shtml
Quite a few people on reddit also mentioned this. I did another test here: ruclips.net/video/8_ynASOvFy8/видео.html - Apart from size (4k vs 1080p) I couldn't see any difference in the compression or color once downscaled.
RUclips compression mushes them all together + have you also shot the MP4 in clog?
I know that the proxy recording is 2K but are you saying that the 2K proxy recording is different in quality from a regular 2K recording? I don't think it is: I think it's exactly the same quality. I know that the raw is DCI and the proxy / regular HD recording is much lower resolution but I think this video is still useful. I think if you did a regular HD recording (i.e., not a proxy recording) then a raw recording and downsampled both to HD that you'd still get the effect shown in the video above. That is, raw is noticeably better. I only ever shoot raw on my C200 and only use the proxy recording for a backup (and not an ideal back to be sure) so I'd be interested to hear your results.
great video...the image quality on the raw is amazing...beautiful lighting...best images i have seen..thanks...would appreciate more advice on choosing between Sony fs5, canon c200 or panasonic eva...thanks
Thanks for the feedback.. When the Eva is released and I can get my hands on it I'll do a comparison video. If raw is what you want (and I have become addicted to the flexibility and quality it offers) the Eva won't do it internally and it won't do it right away. There will be a future upgrade at some point after release and you will need an external recorder. I think that will be a deal breaker for a lot of people, but we'll have to see what the quality of the internal 10 bit is.
thanks for your response. I am looking forward to watching more of your videos.
Thanks for making this video! Have you had much luck getting the camera to trigger your recorder to record over HDMI or SDI? I can't seem to figure out getting it to trigger my Atomos Shogun.
I want to see this video without YT compression.
Did you sharpen the image of the 12bit afterwards? It looks great
Is it true that the C200 does not shoot 24fps at 1080? The specs all say that the lowest frame rate at 1080 is 30fps and if you want 24fps you need to at least shoot in UHD, 3840 x 2160. I don't even mind the 8-bit 4:2:0, but to alway have to film in 4K to get 24fps, with all the storage and processing power needs that go with it, is almost a deal-breaker for what is otherwise clearly a spectacular camera.
I know this comment is old, but the C200 definitely does 24fps in 1080p. I shot everything that way for months before moving to a 4K workflow just recently.
Hey there. Great videos! I have a quick question about the C200 and your Blackmagic Video Assist. When using the Video Assist on the C200, does the C200 trigger the recording on the Blackmagic automatically? The Blackmagic Video Assist uses timecode for the trigger record function. I know the C200 doesn’t output timecode from the SDI, but I’ve read in some manuals and literature online that it does send timecode out the HDMI port. So theoretically it should trigger the Video Assist to record when you press the record button on the C200.
Bob, you're a genius! I just tried this now and you're RIGHT! Setting the blackmagic to record trigger:T/C run and telling the c200 to send timecode over hdmi does indeed trigger the record on the video assist. Great work! I'll put this in a video.
How does the raw compare to the magic lantern raw 14 bit out of the 5d mark iii at base/native iso? :)
Hi, greetings from the UK! I watch a lot of you tutorials and guides, really well pieced together with excellent pacing. I'm intrigued about one thing, and this seems a good film to mention it on... what do you use to edit your footage? You're using pretty strong bit rates and so on... RAW etc... so when piecing together your final films, I'm intrigued what kind of power your editing suite has? Kindest, Neale
Great video. I would like this camera, but I would use the 8 bit as my weekend adventure sessions. Anyhow can you put clog 3 on the 8 bit p4 files. I mean can you film with it in mp4 mode.
Thanks for this! Can I create proxies in premiere for raw files? How difficult is the workflow? Thanks!
Quick question Rb!
Is it possible rig the camera with a SmallHD Monitor and record with a BMD Video Assist at the same time? Or I need a Canon Monitor to see the settings and keep the SDI/HDMI clean, with no settings info?
Thanks for sharing this. May I ask what export settings you used to upload it to youtube? I asume you use adobe premiere or Davinci? The raw looks really good.
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Thank U for the clip
Can the c200 output 120 over hdmi or sdi?
No worries! Not sure what 120 is. Could you elaborate? I'll do my best to answer
Crimson Engine sorry I meant 120fps or 100fps
No worries :) It doesn't - the 120p internal mp4 is pretty crunchy. I've been having more luck shooting the raw 60p and slowing it down in post. If you want to do superslow mo, this isn't your camera.
this video is truly an inspiration! But now i am a bit confused. When exported as mp4 it will become a higher quality 8bit or will remain a 12bit when shoot as cinemaDNG?
12 bit raw, when graded and exported to 8 bit still retains superior color.
Thank u!! Can u recommend an ideal sd card for the C200? (Not C-Fast). Thanks!
I've been using the c200 for a while now and can attest that the mp4 quality is pretty damn good. The 8bit vs 10bit argument comes down to this - will you be needing to push the colour grade often? That's where 10bit shines. If not then the c200's mp4 will look as good as 10bit. Also - if you're grading then perhaps your client should be paying for RAW workflow anyways.
Hi! Does the 10 bit via hdmi afford the high frame rate options? like 60p/120p ?
So the raw is 4k and the 422 10bit is 2k? then the mp4 is a proxy file. If so, the 10 bit is damn good
Thank you for your time doing this. Any chance for an update? Canon C200 recorded with Apple's new prores RAW codec if you have a compatible Atomos.
Hey there - I'd love to try it, but as far as I know you can't output Raw with the c200, only record it internally. Canon c300m2 has Raw output.
Wow! Does color depth affect sharpness so much? Or you add some extra sharpness to RAW part?
Not directly, but you can sharpen a Raw image more without also sharpening the compression artifacts.
@@Crimsonengine Thank you for your quick answer. I agree with the others, this is the best video in 1080p that I saw on RUclips) Now it remains to figure out how to make the same of Sony's 8 bits :)))
Thanks for the video! One question I had was, the sharpness of the image also seemed become more blurry with the 8bit (not just a loss of colours). Does the downgrade to 8bit also make the image's edges less sharp? Not just less colour information?
You can't sharpen the 8 bit in post as much because of the compression artifacts. It also has 1/10th the color of the 12 bit
@@Crimsonengine I see. Thanks for the reply. It's really appreciated
This is by far the most interesting video that I ever saw on RUclips. It answered many of my questions and yet begot more questions. Because of this video, I subscribed your channel and started watching all your videos.
I have an upcoming documentary project that I am planning to buy C200 and shoot RAW then to transcode to 422 10bit to save the hard drive space. The question is, will I be able to get the same kind of dimensionality if I use your LUTs?
I own a RED S-W and never saw my image as good as yours in terms of image quality. I felt bad about buying RED and the lack of my ability but this video enlightened me and gave me a new hope to take a second shot with shooting with RAW.
Is there some type of magic in grading or post-production process to make the subject pop out of the screen, with great dimensionality with such modest budget lens as Rokinon?
Thank you in advance for your help with the issue. I will be looking forward for your response. Thank you.
Did you end up doing this? I'm considering doing the same for a doc project, but the transcoding sounds like such a headache and I'm just a one man band. Torn between the C200 and C300 mark II. I just need 4K 10 bit 422 but i don't want to buy a nearly 4 year old camera.
Can you try to do a review on 1dx mk2? Your video quality is impressive! 1080p even way sharper and clearer than any others 4K video!
Samuel Lu I’m very interested in that camera. I’ll try and get my hands on one! Thanks for the feedback!
Yeah the way it is right now is just so funky, and the outputs are kinda half-done, why can't i record raw externally - Canon?!?!
Amazing video brother! I am looking to buy a cinema camera. I do corporate video and music video/ short films. any suggestions?
I would've been shocked if you hated the C200, but I wonder if you had the c300 if your filming would been differnt?
Raw is a game changer. You can dial in your color balance in post AFTER you're applied a split tone LUT and it makes all the difference. I see it becoming the default.
Hi! Thanks for so many great videos about C200! Question! Is there a way to output Audio over SDI into Ninja V? Thanks 🙏🏻
SDI carries audio as far as I know!
@@Crimsonengine Thank you for the response! Yes it’s written that the audio signal Is there but I can’t get it to work with ninja V and the SDI Module.. That would be a great 10 bit cinema 2k setup! If you could help me to get it work that would be highly appreciated 🙏🏻
Hi so if I were to buy a c200b and pair it with my atomos ninja inferno as a monitor does the touch dual pixel autofocus still function?
It will not. Only the canon monitor with its proprietary connector can use the touch focus. You can touch focus with an ipad or iphone connected over the build in wifi. It works pretty well but its only about 5 fps.
Hello. I was told that you can't use SDI and HDMI ports both at the same time. Is that true?
EvilJamesGuy that is true. Canon says it’s to do with a heat issue.
Can you share your workflow? The RAW workflow seems to add a ton of oversharpening... Seems like the main difference is the 422 has the blacks clipped and the RAW has way too much sharpening on it, hard to look past those differences which are likely just artifacts of errors your workflow.
There's no sharpening applied to the raw - that effect is coming from the contrast and mid tone detail. Because resolve 14 debayers the raw in a weird was but doesn't allow you access to the raw settings (yet) its impossible to apply the same lut to the raw as the mp4 and prores.
Does C200 also have auto ISO?!
I'm just trying to see whether in a quick run and gun documentary situation this camera can use AF and Auto Exposure to shoot something quick like a DSLR in Auto mode but with C-Log on either RAW or its 150mbs modes. Thanks for the video and a great image/lighting! :)
It doesn't have auto ISO like a DSLR, but it does have a 'Auto Iris' control that will adjust your exposure for you with the aperture. The internal ND is also awesome if you're going to interiors to exteriors in a doc context. Its a perfect camera for what your talking about. Good luck!
Thanks for the reply. But I often have to film myself in run and gun situations, meaning I have to put the camera out there on a Tripod very quickly and go stand in front of it and talk. So, no one would be operating the camera. While WiFi would be an option, I currently can count on either my GH5 or 6Dmkii with auto ISO to get good exposure on my face. GH5 is awesome in every way for that reason but I had to buy the 6Dii only for the DPAF (also, I have all of Canon's L Primes). So, I was hoping the C200 would be able to do the same thing; but seems like I can't count on it to set exposure by just standing in front of it. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my previous comment.
So if I understand this correctly; the C200 can NOT shoot a 4K 10 megabit ProRes image, even when using an external recorder? So if you need a 4K pro res image for a broadcast documentary, it's impossible ? Please let me know as I need to find out asap
It doesn't do so natively, but you're in luck! I made a video about this today: ruclips.net/video/ONEGZ0HrahM/видео.html
Crimson Engine ah! Thank you so much, this helps :) one last question; how long can you shoot on that cards? If I have say a 2 hour interview how many cards will I need?