I have an Imperial Deluxe II with a triumph nib and touchdown filling. Except that it is a few rungs on the ladder lower than your pen and is made of plastic, it looks very much like your pen. I was talking with a local fountain expert a few months ago and he mentioned that at the Sheaffer Company they seemed to make pens out of the parts they had at hand and that's why Snorkels could have either the triumph nib or the traditional nib. Maybe that's why some of their pens are hard to pin down. You have a beautiful and interesting pen. Thank you for showing it.
Came across a listing here in India where this is advertised as Stylist Lady 444X ! That pen looks exactly the same as this one (cap, barrel, conical nib, section) except that the clip is slightly longer !
You’re an impressive “Imperial” collector ! I’m planning to buy one (A 777), so looking at the reviews in RUclips and I see that almost all the reviews are yours !
Definitely a Stylist, and a later model because if the short Triumph nib and possibly later still because of the shorter Imperial/quasi-Imperial/Lady Sheaffer clip. Later model Lady Sheaffers shared this body shape. These numbers refer to the finish. 444 is for a brushed chrome cap and barrel which is the number on my Triumph Imperial. My Stlyist with a brushed cap and black body is probably a 440 style number.
Thanks for the review. I have the same pen but made from Argentina. The finish is indeed a 444X but I'm still trying to figuring out the model cause today I got a made in usa Sheaffer Stylist 444X and is not the same pen! My new Stylist has longer body and longer clip. Section and nib are the same. Maybe as you said the one on the video is a Lady version of the stylist.
Stef, thst is a Sheagfer 444 but it does not belong to the Triumph Imperial family. The 444 refers to the finish only and not to the model. It is a 444 either belonging to the Lady Sheaffer line or the Stylist line. I have two of these and are stickered '444'. Hope that helps.
I have one in black and gold with the conical nib in 18K nib with a screw off cap. The cap is longer. I forgot what model it is. I have always wished that the pen companies would stamp model names on their pens but it seems most do not.
Some of these pens still have a black sticker with the model numbers. However i have seen two different pens with the same model number, so it can still be confusing. Thanks.
i have this pen. it's almost the same save for the longer clip. Mine also has the Triumph nib, but marked palladium silver. Mine came in a Lady Sheaffer box from my grandma. i believe it's the original box but i can't be 100% sure as the box has rust and mildew damage while the pen looks mint! The pen cap has a sticker that reads 444. i agree that it's so confusing to know what exactly to call the pen. From Richard Binder's page it looked exactly like the Stylist, meaning it could be from the 90s. However my box looks to be more 60s style, assuming it's the original box. Then there's the button filler...which I've not been able to find production dates for. Were the button converters made in the 90s? Anyway, excellent video!
Dear Stef, Please, forgive me of writing these comments just because I enjoy very much your videos. Identifying that Fountain Pen is beyond me, it is the matter of the connoisseurs and I definitely am not such a person. However, the pen you presented in this video, of whatever variant it would be, looks like a beautiful friendly pen. I mean that it seems being a good companion for writing. I wrote "companion" instead of "writing instrument" intentionally. My purpose was to highlight the fact that such a pen could become inseparable to the writer, pure and simple a friend the writer would like to have in her/his hand for writing as desired. I know by experience that a pen, by its adaptive features and its match to the writer, could become somehow like a living being stimulating and inspiring the writer. Well, I think that this Sheaffer is that kind of pen, in spite of its mystery. That would be also the reason for me of not being able to speak of it component by component. It looks to me so well harmonized as geometry, volume, colors and finish, that I couldn't comment it otherwise but as a whole. Thank you for the video. The mystery coloratura you gave to it was the salt and pepper for the people who have a large knowledge on Fountain Pens, but for me, who I don't belong to that category of people, that pen revealed its special quality as a friend. Thank you again for offering to us the opportunity of making comments on such a beautiful and interesting pen! Best Regards Anton-Mihai
That pen is in great condition! I never had a vintage pen. But I just bought a sheaffer pen, presumably from the 60's and I don't know which it is. The seller said it was made for the french market, it was not manufactured in Brazil, nor in the USA. It has a 18k conical nib. I guess I'll need some help to identify it too.
Hey Stef, I enjoy your reviews and seeing the all those beautiful fountain pens. I have the same pen with stainless steel nib and a squeeze converter. I was delighted to find the model that I own reviewed. This pen gives me a hard time as it leaks through the barrel. I used different types of inks in it and the leaking doesn't stop. What might be the problem? Thank you.
Hi Julia, thanks for watching. Always difficult to comment without seeing the pen in hand. You may have the wrong converter or it maybe worn and loose around the piercing tube in the section. Try fitting a Skripsert cartridge and see if that stops the leaking. If it does then the above is true. Good luck.
Nice!! Dear Stef, how do you remove the scratches in Stainless steel parts? In addition, how you do that in chrome plated parts? and in gold plated? Thanks a lot!
Really depends how deep the scratch is and if it is smooth chrome, they can be polished out. However plating is slightly more difficult as you can polish away the plate. Each part has to be looked at and considered, in some cases it could make things worst. If you can live with it then leave it alone.
The clip of the cap is vey short. Style is not attractive. Always drop jumping from pocket. Want modification, in size and style. All pens of this brand is having the same defect from very begining.
@@penkino1 the short clip and the nib is the reason I think I wrote that = ) I hope you're having a great day so far! Thanks for the videos! They've helped me out a lot!
Thank you, Stef. I like the long section and the nib.
Thanks for watching, Anzan.
Someone just offered me a Sheaffer Stylist 727, and I always refer to Grandmia for information before purchasing a fountain pen "in the wild".
Thats great i hope the videos help. Good luck.
I have an Imperial Deluxe II with a triumph nib and touchdown filling. Except that it is a few rungs on the ladder lower than your pen and is made of plastic, it looks very much like your pen. I was talking with a local fountain expert a few months ago and he mentioned that at the Sheaffer Company they seemed to make pens out of the parts they had at hand and that's why Snorkels could have either the triumph nib or the traditional nib. Maybe that's why some of their pens are hard to pin down.
You have a beautiful and interesting pen. Thank you for showing it.
Yes i have reviewed a Sheaffer Touchdown, i still feel this maybe the Stylist. Thanks for watching.
Came across a listing here in India where this is advertised as Stylist Lady 444X ! That pen looks exactly the same as this one (cap, barrel, conical nib, section) except that the clip is slightly longer !
I would not know without seeing it, but there were many very similar pens. Thanks
You’re an impressive “Imperial” collector ! I’m planning to buy one (A 777), so looking at the reviews in RUclips and I see that almost all the reviews are yours !
Go for it and buy one. I have a couple of sheaffer pens available. Good luck
@@penkino1 Already pulled the trigger 😊
@@sathishrao7926 Great, well done.
Definitely a Stylist, and a later model because if the short Triumph nib and possibly later still because of the shorter Imperial/quasi-Imperial/Lady Sheaffer clip. Later model Lady Sheaffers shared this body shape. These numbers refer to the finish. 444 is for a brushed chrome cap and barrel which is the number on my Triumph Imperial. My Stlyist with a brushed cap and black body is probably a 440 style number.
Yes i think we can call this one a Stylist, thank you for your comments.
Thanks for the review. I have the same pen but made from Argentina. The finish is indeed a 444X but I'm still trying to figuring out the model cause today I got a made in usa Sheaffer Stylist 444X and is not the same pen! My new Stylist has longer body and longer clip. Section and nib are the same. Maybe as you said the one on the video is a Lady version of the stylist.
Thanks for watching! Im sure there is plenty of info on line to help you. Good luck
Stef, thst is a Sheagfer 444 but it does not belong to the Triumph Imperial family. The 444 refers to the finish only and not to the model. It is a 444 either belonging to the Lady Sheaffer line or the Stylist line. I have two of these and are stickered '444'.
Hope that helps.
Yes i have seen them marked as the 444 and yes i believe the numbers refer to the finish of the pen. Maybe we are looking at a Stylist ? Thank you.
I have one in black and gold with the conical nib in 18K nib with a screw off cap. The cap is longer. I forgot what model it is. I have always wished that the pen companies would stamp model names on their pens but it seems most do not.
Some of these pens still have a black sticker with the model numbers. However i have seen two different pens with the same model number, so it can still be confusing. Thanks.
i have this pen. it's almost the same save for the longer clip. Mine also has the Triumph nib, but marked palladium silver. Mine came in a Lady Sheaffer box from my grandma. i believe it's the original box but i can't be 100% sure as the box has rust and mildew damage while the pen looks mint! The pen cap has a sticker that reads 444. i agree that it's so confusing to know what exactly to call the pen. From Richard Binder's page it looked exactly like the Stylist, meaning it could be from the 90s. However my box looks to be more 60s style, assuming it's the original box. Then there's the button filler...which I've not been able to find production dates for. Were the button converters made in the 90s? Anyway, excellent video!
Dear Stef,
Please, forgive me of writing these comments just because I enjoy very much your videos.
Identifying that Fountain Pen is beyond me, it is the matter of the connoisseurs and I definitely am not such a person.
However, the pen you presented in this video, of whatever variant it would be, looks like a beautiful friendly pen. I mean that it seems being a good companion for writing. I wrote "companion" instead of "writing instrument" intentionally. My purpose was to highlight the fact that such a pen could become inseparable to the writer, pure and simple a friend the writer would like to have in her/his hand for writing as desired.
I know by experience that a pen, by its adaptive features and its match to the writer, could become somehow like a living being stimulating and inspiring the writer.
Well, I think that this Sheaffer is that kind of pen, in spite of its mystery.
That would be also the reason for me of not being able to speak of it component by component. It looks to me so well harmonized as geometry, volume, colors and finish, that I couldn't comment it otherwise but as a whole.
Thank you for the video. The mystery coloratura you gave to it was the salt and pepper for the people who have a large knowledge on Fountain Pens, but for me, who I don't belong to that category of people, that pen revealed its special quality as a friend.
Thank you again for offering to us the opportunity of making comments on such a beautiful and interesting pen!
Best Regards
Anton-Mihai
Anton, you are forgiven :-) Im sure we will have someone who can unravel the mystery. Thank you.
I have two ok the same, one gold and one steel. Not shure wich model it is. But great pens. Thank you for a great video.
As long as the pens are enjoyed then maybe it doesn't matter ? Thanks for watching.
I've never met a converter like that! Very interesting.
Glad you found it interesting, thanks for watching.
That pen is in great condition!
I never had a vintage pen. But I just bought a sheaffer pen, presumably from the 60's and I don't know which it is.
The seller said it was made for the french market, it was not manufactured in Brazil, nor in the USA. It has a 18k conical nib. I guess I'll need some help to identify it too.
Thanks. Im sure you will have more vintage pens soon. Why not contact the seller to tell you which pen you have bought ? Good luck with it.
Hello i have pen like this but the nib get a part from the section could you help me send you some pics of it to find how to solve
There could be numerous reasons for it Ahmed. May you will need to send it to your nearest repair person. Good luck.
@@penkino1 in egypt we dont have repair center as fountain pen culture not well known if u could send me ur mail so i could send pics if u plz
Thanks Stef
Your welcome.
Hey Stef, I enjoy your reviews and seeing the all those beautiful fountain pens. I have the same pen with stainless steel nib and a squeeze converter. I was delighted to find the model that I own reviewed.
This pen gives me a hard time as it leaks through the barrel. I used different types of inks in it and the leaking doesn't stop. What might be the problem?
Thank you.
Hi Julia, thanks for watching. Always difficult to comment without seeing the pen in hand. You may have the wrong converter or it maybe worn and loose around the piercing tube in the section. Try fitting a Skripsert cartridge and see if that stops the leaking. If it does then the above is true. Good luck.
Thank you so much for the quick response, I'll try following your suggestion.
Good luck with it Julia.
Nice!! Dear Stef, how do you remove the scratches in Stainless steel parts? In addition, how you do that in chrome plated parts? and in gold plated? Thanks a lot!
Really depends how deep the scratch is and if it is smooth chrome, they can be polished out. However plating is slightly more difficult as you can polish away the plate. Each part has to be looked at and considered, in some cases it could make things worst. If you can live with it then leave it alone.
Thanks Stef! and what about the stainless steel parts? Best regards
very interesting,thanks
Thank you for watching Earl.
It’s a Sheaffer 440X Set 🖋 ✒️ missing the pencil ✏️
There can be some confusion with these Sheaffer pens. Thanks Mark
How can I get it in India??
This one has been sold but i have similar pens. Thanks
How much does it cost
704 ?
Thanks ?
The clip of the cap is vey short. Style is not attractive. Always drop jumping from pocket. Want modification, in size and style. All pens of this brand is having the same defect from very begining.
They are very popular pens, so everyone is different. Thanks
Wow
Weird
Why weird ? Thanks
@@penkino1 the short clip and the nib is the reason I think I wrote that = )
I hope you're having a great day so far!
Thanks for the videos! They've helped me out a lot!
Oh i see! Thanks for watching.
Thank you for making these videos available to the world ❤️The pleasure it all mine@@penkino1 ~! Bye bye for now ❤️❤️