On Werther, Faust, and Love: an analysis of Madoka Magica through the works of Goethe

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @mimikyuno
    @mimikyuno  Месяц назад +16

    while editing I wanted to add a little note about Homura’s shield when discussing the possibility of Homura being in a fake world of her creation rather than having rewritten the entire universe, because isn’t it interesting how in the Wraith Arc the shield is said to contain a whole dimension wherein shield!Homura (whom I believe is Love) resides? 👀

    • @CallMeeKarma
      @CallMeeKarma Месяц назад +1

      ! 10 out of 10 video! And I truly love appreciate it will be forever grateful that you’ve analyzed and condensed Paul’s more renaissance works for those who don’t know them… So often I hear people saying something like a Faustian bargain but never attributing anything else beyond that and the deal was Qyube into the literature that truly obviously and clearly did inspire the series… So now I’m glad that there is a place for more people to learn that so we can ALL appreciate this story for every ounce of beauty it truly does have the offer past present in future… It is hard to explain to people when ““ theory crafting lol… But now I can just refer them to this video… Especially like when you have someone that you FINALLY gotten to enjoy Madoka Magica, Having the option to be able to refer them to a video like this is SUCH a blessing. You’re a saint for all this hard work!
      🤍And good luck with all your school stuff I hope we get this movie soon

    • @CallMeeKarma
      @CallMeeKarma Месяц назад +1

      Well more like 10 million out of 10… I also wanted to say! That I highly highly highly appreciate your acknowledgment of the relevance of Junko!
      I believed that the scenes with her in the original show -all the way like a decade ago lol-
      We’re so important. And that she was so much more than ‘just a side character’
      She’s someone who could’ve been adult Mami, adult Kyoko adult Sayaka… And I would’ve loved more focus on her so I like that you mention her…
      😅 I believe she is a highly underrated amazing female role model…

  • @tiajones6485
    @tiajones6485 6 дней назад +3

    I'm pretty sure an analysis of madoka, tutu and utena would fully develop my frontal lobe, those three are my favorite of all time and now I'll know why!
    I'm glad to finally understand what faust is in madoka too.

  • @roseipikaheart2991
    @roseipikaheart2991 26 дней назад +9

    I have no one to share my love and fascination for Homu’s character and Madoka Magica as a whole with so whenever I feel like gushing about the series and especially Homu I come to this channel. Your videos make my days so much better 🙏🏽

    • @CorruptedMapping
      @CorruptedMapping 15 дней назад +2

      Do you have discord! I’d love to discuss Homuras character with you :D

  • @juniper1350
    @juniper1350 Месяц назад +13

    i’ve been interested by the mention of needles in rebellion for a while. homura even has sewing needle-like weapons in her labyrinth when she and her clara dolls attack kyuubey.
    when i think abt what they could symbolize, i think they perhaps represent attempting to patch or cover smth up through your own best efforts, even if it isn’t as good as the original cloth had been.
    edit: i will always find it amazing that despite or selfish or cruel homura’s actions can be or seem, she’s still someone who holds intense mental strength and the ability to care sm for others, even outside of madoka.

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  Месяц назад +1

      ooh that’s a great interpretation of what the needles may mean! especially since madoka is represented by a spool of pink thread in rebellion! 🪡🧵

  • @thesugarplumprincess
    @thesugarplumprincess 23 дня назад +6

    Dying for the full RGU PMMM Princess Tutu video tbh. No faster way to get me to hit subscribe.

  • @RaRa_wilddog
    @RaRa_wilddog Месяц назад +12

    OMG you’re back!!!
    this genuinely makes me so happy, as i adored your analysis on Rebellion very much.
    edit: don’t worry about how long it takes! i’m glad you’re able to make these videos!!

  • @no-joys
    @no-joys 11 дней назад +2

    This was an amazing analysis. Huge respect for making 2 hours engaging, when watching it didn't feel like 2 hours at all.
    I'm exicted for your future videos, and it would be crazy if your theories come true.

  • @htht4rhu65u
    @htht4rhu65u 16 дней назад +3

    This and the last one are my favorites PMMM video essays ever

  • @i_dont_exist_shh7387
    @i_dont_exist_shh7387 Месяц назад +6

    1:43:18 OMG YES I HAVE BEEN THINKING THAT SINCE THE FIRST TRAILER CAMEOUT

  • @markydrawzz579
    @markydrawzz579 26 дней назад +2

    i refuse to believe this has less than 100 likes, this is so good oh my god ☹️☹️

  • @i_dont_exist_shh7387
    @i_dont_exist_shh7387 Месяц назад +5

    HIIIII! YOUR ESSAYS ARE BACK!! IM SO HAPPY YOU’RE SO AMAZING

  • @adiana9950
    @adiana9950 Месяц назад +3

    This video essay is ABSOLUTE CINEMA, love the analysis and connection with Faust .

  • @empty__
    @empty__ Месяц назад +5

    immeasurably grateful for this essay. thank you. i too consider the Rebellion the perfect movie, my favourite movie, and the bar has never been so high. anticipating the continuation in fear; the composition, meticulously crafted, is easy to break. i dislike the new 'round' art style, the pumpkin angularness was special. if a perpetual motion machine was constructed out of Gretchen and Walpurgis, no witches anymore but two of them. will incubators rule, or be banished to... producing energy...

  • @kaiyumi8759
    @kaiyumi8759 Месяц назад +2

    YOUR BACK IEHFJA gosh I love your videos essays sm akfbja

  • @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI
    @NIGHTBLOODUSAGI Месяц назад +5

    your back!! alohaa! i found you through your homura video so seeing this made me so happy
    edit: i also just finished all my homework (late and current) so i am also free!! yoipee

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  Месяц назад +2

      waah i hope you enjoy it! ✨

  • @homuhomu8373
    @homuhomu8373 27 дней назад +4

    In the Bible (specifically leviticus) lizards are said to be unclean and filthy, so it might be a representation of homura’s self loathing

  • @CorruptedMapping
    @CorruptedMapping 15 дней назад +2

    I love your analysis’s so much! Ever considered making a discord? I think it would be really cool having a place to discuss things like this with people :D

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  11 дней назад +2

      @@CorruptedMapping Aah thank you so much!! I’m glad you enjoyed the analysis 🥹
      And I honestly have considered that before tbh!! It’s a really good idea but I’m not sure if that would work for me because I’m soo so bad at keeping in touch and kind of disappear for weeks/months 😔 really bad habit of mine
      But knowing there are people who are interested in this sort of thing makes me consider it again, I’ll give it some more thought! 🫶🏻

    • @CorruptedMapping
      @CorruptedMapping 11 дней назад +1

      @ Yippe!!! Well if you ever need someone to talk to about things I’ll always be here to listen! And I’m glad you’re taking the server idea into consideration! Can’t wait for the next video!!! ^^

  • @mysticalconure8699
    @mysticalconure8699 26 дней назад +1

    Insightful analysis!

  • @i_dont_exist_shh7387
    @i_dont_exist_shh7387 Месяц назад +2

    This was beautiful and you are amazing as always. I found a lot of your ideas matched mine and I was happy to see that as I deeply admire and adore you. GOOD LUCK W EVERYTHING YOU ARE SO AMAZINGGGGGGG

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  Месяц назад +1

      thank you so much 😭😭😭🙏🏻

    • @i_dont_exist_shh7387
      @i_dont_exist_shh7387 Месяц назад +1

      @@mimikyuno FOR WHAT? YOU’RE SO INCREDIBLE

  • @lockaltube
    @lockaltube 9 дней назад +1

    31:25 - actually, if you watch "Magia Record: Nagisa's Wish [English]" - her story is much more tragic and in the end ..
    SPOILER BELOW. A lot of text...
    Nagisa consciously let her mom die due to her illness because her mom had severely mistreated her, and Nagisa repaid her with the same attitude: "I'll force her to be in MY debt".
    This probably hasn’t been written about (certainly not on reddit or wiki), but I think there’s a bit of a different play referenced here. The most popular theatrical play in Russia, The Cherry Orchard. Charlotte Ivanovna is one of the secondary dualistic characters there. She is both a circus performer and a governess for noble offspring - cheerful and always trying to entertain the audience, who are eager for tricks and amusements. Yet, on an intuitive level, she foresees the downfall of the main characters' family in the play. The fact that references aren’t limited to The Cherry Orchard becomes apparent with the mention of The Nutcracker (another iconic Russian ballet). Once again, among Charlotte’s minions, we have Pyotr and Polina. And Madoka is dancing Swan Lake in the Concept Movie (by Pyotr Chaikovskiy). Soo... not only Germans are there.
    Overall, it’s clear that one of the creators of Madoka is a theater enthusiast. In fact, Rebellion is a grand four-act production where the Clara Dolls act as the audience, commentators (as seen in frame 21), throw tomatoes, and literally watch everything unfold on a crankie - a box with a viewing window where a long scroll of paper or fabric, often with illustrated scenes, is wound onto two spools. When the operator turns a handle (the "crank"), the scroll moves, creating the effect of a moving story or animated scene. "Das Fenster genau geschlossen" - is the window closed - when the performance is at the end, operator closes the window of the box. Overall, Clara Dolls exhibit a clear, hyper-perceptive understanding of reality. For example, in Rebellion, during Homura’s transformation, hidden frames reveal rune inscriptions such as "To the Meister: we're bored", "Killmeplease", and "They glorify death" amidst 14 or 15 heads (with 15 being the total number of dolls).
    One particularly funny moment occurs when Homura is talking to Kyoko in The Rebellion Café, and cups keep appearing on the table one after another until there are 15 in total. Meanwhile, balloons float up to the ceiling, released by the crankie operator. Sooo... In other words, the 15 Clara Dolls can essentially be considered protagonists at this point. Beyond that, there are exactly 15 witches in the Madoka pantheon, 15 observers in the new trailer (in the scene where Madoka has an iPhone), 15 planets surrounding the tarot card The Moon, as well as 15 circles on the full "Madoka eternal feminine" sigil (when Madoka shoots the sky).

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  8 дней назад +3

      @@lockaltube hi!! okay okay you have a lot of good points and thank you for your comment! A lot of what you mention is something that highlights a critical flaw of mine; I have always had the bad habit of rambling in my writing, and going off track. Because of that, I tend to overcompensate by cutting and leaving a lot of my thoughts as inferences. So thank you for helping me see that I should have rambled a bit more at times! 🙏🏻
      I wanna answer your points one by one so my answer will also be a bit long too - sorry!!
      Side note: a lot of what I am about to mention made me realize I either need to get quicker and write many shorter essays and actually release them into the wild in a timely manner, or just write a 6 hour one and get all my thoughts out in one go LMFAO
      LONG RAMBLE AHEAD!!
      About Nagisa: honestly that’s on me for being in the fandom for too long and mixing up her lore. Before magireco revealed her actual backstory, the story I mentioned in the video was the most popular theory for years. For some reason, while writing, I mixed up the fan theory with the Magia Record version, and I was so sure of it I didn’t check it 😭. Critical mistake 101: not checking your references. rip. tbf though, I don’t truly consider magireco to be 100% canon, but yeah, a semi-canonical spin off made by inucurry said that that’s her backstory so that’s the one I should’ve mentioned, thank you for pointing it out!
      About German literature: I guess probably worded myself wrong in the essay but I did NOT mean there’s only German references in the show! My insistence with German was to showcase how deep-rooted the Faustian narrative is, and how much German literature and philosophy pervade the text. German is pushed in our faces so often that I can’t help but think it’s to force us to think of Faust (though this is my personal opinion). I actually have a segment on the Nutcracker and Swan Lake in my other video essay, because those are ballets and fit with my comparison to Princess Tutu. In general, the show has a lot of literary references, to theatre, ballet, and even religious texts. I can see a lot of Western philosophy (Nietzsche, Freud, Kant, amongst other), Western literature (with Goethe, but also Ancient Greek myths, Paradise Lost and more), ballet (Homulilly and the Nutcracker, the Concept Movie and Swan Lake, among others), and Christian, Islamic, and Buddhist themes. And even more tbh. And about Swan Lake; that is actually another key text other than Faust imo; I have actually written a small piece on Madoka/Homura vs. Odette/Odile but it is nowhere near done and needs a lot of work + I will incorporate it in the video with Ptutu because well. We have Odette and Odile there too. But in this video essay I wanted to laser focus on German literature to keep it on track with the Goethe comparisons, as I feel they offer the most obvious and direct approach to understanding where the narrative is headed. Though this is my personal opinion of course!
      About the Cherry Orchard: I remember learning about this play but never looked into it, thank you for mentioning it! Will research it :)
      About the Clara Dolls: Again, I wish I had worded myself better but the reasons and scenes you mention are exactly why I said the Clara Dolls are the equivalent of a Greek chorus (similarly to the Shadow Girls in Utena)! Yes they act as the audience but as they represent Homura’s feelings and exist within the narrative (to an extent), they are more akin to meta-commentators, aka a Greek chorus. I should have included all the examples I noticed their interference, though I will admit I never noticed a couple that you mentioned! I feel like I just explained what a Greek chorus is, and then called the Clara Dolls a Greek chorus later in the essay without making the connection obvious 😭 But yes, I love love looove them and I remember mentioning somewhere in my first video essay (either in the description box or at the end) that I wanted to make a whole video just about every instance of the Clara Dolls interfering, how they show Homura’s feelings and their meta-narrative role.

    • @lockaltube
      @lockaltube 8 дней назад

      @@mimikyuno ​ ha-ha, it's absolutely impossible, it's absolutely impossible not to go off track when talking about Madok (51:46) :)
      Regarding magireco to be canon: am I right that at 1:19:44 we have the first moment where PMMM reuses frames from magireco at 20:59? You see something like "watashi no yuujin/hito" (My friend/someone dear to me). I’m not asserting this with 100% certainty, but do you perhaps recall if these scenes were used somewhere before? The truth might be close by perhaps around 2:05:33 - And it literally shows the "City of Books" from Umineko. Sayaka is in this "library" for the same reason Lambdadelta went there-to protect the true timeline. And ultimately, the plots will converge! Ah, I always end up drifting into another topic too!
      Also: "die Bestie" means beast in German. But I like "the legendary bestie" more :)
      Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with Princess Tutu or Shadow Dolls... Oh well, everyone has their own background. But I’m absolutely in awe that you made the connection between Madoka and the Eternal Feminine on your own. Sure, the words DAS EWIG WEIBLICHE are explicitly written beneath the Madoka sigil in Runes:Rebellion, but to arrive at that conclusion independently… you’d have to be much smarter than I am!

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  8 дней назад

      @lockaltube oh wait. are you being sarcastic / mocking me 😭 i dont get it im sorry 😭😭😭 i struggle with reading tone, both irl and online 🥲
      I. Uhm. I don’t really know how to reply to this tbh. This comment is kinda playing with my biggest fear/insecurity about my video essays which at some point prevented me from continuing my script; the fear of people accusing me of plagiarism/parroting others with no real insight. It is why I made sure to include ALL my sources in the script and in the description, and why sometimes I didn’t double check certain things. And that Eternal Feminine thing was actually a big obstacle for me. I truly connected it while I was writing my other video essay; embarrassingly, I did not know about it! And when I researched Goethe, I happened on the Wikipedia page for it and went a bit insane and got very excited. And when I found that blog post mentioning it I felt quite dejected - I played it off as a joke in the video, but it truly demotivated me, as I was scared to even mention the Eternal Feminine for fear of being accused of just repeating what I read around (even though it was the starting point of my essay). Because of this, I made sure to include a link to the blog post even though I found it after coming to a similar conclusion, and I read it fully only AFTER writing my thoughts. This happened to me many times throughout the writing process; I’d think of something, and find someone already noticed it. Which led me to avoid fact-checking a lot of things, which I guess is why I missed a lot of stuff you’re mentioning right now. For example, right now I’m feeling pretty dumb for not noticing the runes underneath Madoka in Rebellion, and can assure you if I had, I would have included that in the video like 100% like. wow. That’s so cool.
      Eventually I got over my fear of being accused of parroting others by thinking about it as “that’s the beauty of media analysis, different people can notice the same thing”. I still hope I managed to say something original or thought-provoking in my video. If I didn’t, I still hope I brought light to all the sources I listed in my script and led others to discover them.
      But uhm. Yeah. I might stop answering bc this is really playing with my insecurities and I’m feeling really bad. Sorry if I didn’t credit something properly or if I said something dumb or arrogant, and thank you for bringing a lot of points to my attention (like, I have been meaning to look into Umineko!)

  • @masteryoba359
    @masteryoba359 Месяц назад +2

    ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @khanhsacfake2780
    @khanhsacfake2780 8 часов назад

    massive thank you

  • @TheTricksterCoyote
    @TheTricksterCoyote Месяц назад +1

    Yessss thank you so much for this. I really love your essays!

  • @Greatblade141
    @Greatblade141 Месяц назад +1

    Well worth the wait, thanks for the effort!

  • @a_panda_on_yt
    @a_panda_on_yt Месяц назад +2

    ayye it’s here!!! i loved your other analysis vid so i’m looking forward to this one and it’s 2 hrs?? we’re eating good 🩷

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  Месяц назад

      i hope you enjoy this one too 😭🫶🏻

  • @Ghost-yr9vd
    @Ghost-yr9vd 28 дней назад +1

    I agree with a lot of your upcoming movie theories. However, I sincerely hope the wraiths arc manga plot will not be incorporated into the movie. The events of the manga are a lot to take in (and I didn’t enjoy it) and I am afraid it will make the movie even more confusing and bloated. After all we are already getting 2-3 new magical girls plus multiple homuras. People were already pissed with the addition of Nagisa in rebellion and now there’s waaay more new characters coming up.
    Anyway, great work! I loved both of your pmmm videos.
    Are we getting another follow up video discussing the trailer that came out today?

  • @thesugarplumprincess
    @thesugarplumprincess 23 дня назад +1

    It’s actually a salamander I think, not just a lizard. Something in connection with Jesus, fire, rebirth, etc.

  • @htht4rhu65u
    @htht4rhu65u 10 дней назад +2

    Wait i just realised isnt Homulily's theme song called "theatre of a witch"? And also the nutcracker is a play right?

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  8 дней назад +1

      @@htht4rhu65u Yes! The Nutcracker is a ballet and Homulilly’s familiars are based off it (the Clara Dolls, as a reference to Clara, and Lilia, the teeth that are literally nutcrackers). Moreover, Homulilly is cursed to forever be walking towards her execution, without ever reaching the execution site, and has a hat with a broken record. Overall, lot of references to her aimless repeating of time. And wouldn’t it be interesting that the Walpurgisnacht, “the fool who continuously spins in circles” would be an aberration of Homuilly (or Homulilly + Gretchen)? 👀
      i hate this series lmao

    • @htht4rhu65u
      @htht4rhu65u 8 дней назад

      @mimikyuno The walpurgis spinning in circles is actually a metaphor for the fans spiraling waiting for the movie

  • @Eu-ff3pp
    @Eu-ff3pp Месяц назад +2

    Let's go

  • @aqualucasYT
    @aqualucasYT Месяц назад +1

    ITS UP

    • @mimikyuno
      @mimikyuno  Месяц назад +1

      i still cant believe it 🫡

  • @nicolas2452
    @nicolas2452 Месяц назад +1

    Literally today I just notice that "Lotte" comes from another Goethe's book, and this video show up. Destiny? 🫶❤️