Sorry about the audio, I moved some stuff around and now my room sounds more echo prone. I rushed a bit to try to get this out to you, so that everyone can make an informed decision before buying this new product. I hope it was helpful :)
I didn't realise there was a difference but I watched the video on my phone with just the phone speaker... Thank you, by the way, this was another very helpful video! 🥰😘
@@phillipstroll7385 Hi Philip! You commented to me but think you want to make your comment to the great Kimberly! She's so talented, she'll like to your joy in finding her!!!
I just heard about these! Love your videos, and am glad to see these in action. I definitely agree that it seems Schmincke did well... that Grape Seed is gorgeous! The comparison to the other PBk8 paints was helpful, and your artwork is lovely as always. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I had to fight my inner hoarder and not buy 154309832425437 tubes of Grape Seed because of how much I love its subtle blue undertones lol :)
Super useful, thank you! I will not be buying these as of now, but they are definitely going on my 'don't forget that this thing exists' list! I think I might like these down the line when I get to go to life drawing classes again.
These have been on my wishlist for a while now- I made my own charcoal watercolour that I enjoy using in landscapes for mountains, they granulate and mix with other colours nicely. 😊
Beautiful art. I recently purchased Nitram aquarelle watercolor and love using it for the darkest darks in my watercolor paintings. Thank you for the demonstrating how to use it.
Thank you for making these videos and taking the time to create them for everyone to enjoy and to make informed decisions prior to purchasing these products. Your videos are so relaxing and informative. Have a wonderful day!
Peach Pit Black is a classic pigment, I'm glad it's available. I wish they also made Cork Black, it was the coolest of all blacks, referred to as "beggar's blue" or "beggar's ultramarine."
Yeah, I too wish they had made cork black. I can't even find a pigment powder supplier. I got so desperate I considered buying cork bark to make charcoal myself. I've heard it called "poor man's ultramarine" since it's the most blue leaning, I really want to know how much cooler than grape seeds it is!
I love all of your videos for how balanced and informative they are, thank you so much for posting them. I can't get over how adorable your mouse painting is ~~
Thank you so much for the review! These look like they could be really fun for sketches and studies. Also love that they're rewettable, makes paints a lot more convenient
Always excited when you have a video and I always learn something! Cute mouse and really interesting paints. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have made a premixed pan of Ultra Blue, Quin Red, and Viridian that I use and I have labeled it KC Moonglow after you!
The granulation is superb with your chosen color mixes! These would be great for figure drawing with a fudé brush and rice paper. Beautiful work as always!
Sounds like a lovely idea!!! I am looking forward to playing with these in more mixtures. I had some interesting results with greens, particularly Viridian and think they may lend themselves even to botanical art. Happy painting :)
Really fab and informative review. Been mulling these over for awhile and seeing them in use, both in swatches and in your mouse painting was really helpful. I just love how adding a little color to these "charcoals" makes them so interesting and I can see me using these in my fine art paintings, even if in small portions as I am "color" girl. Ya always need a good black though and I especially love how these fade down to gray, as I rarely use black. I currently use Daniel Smith's Jane's Grey, but think there is a place for these in my art as well. Thanks for a truly helpful review Kimberly. Blessings!
What a cute little mouse! I have no Roman Shzmal or Schminke products, but I have Voronezhskaya Black (P.Bk.8, greenish vine black) and Lamp Black (P.Bk.7, the more bluish charcoal/sooty black) by White Nights, and Oxide Black (P.Bk.11, mars black) by Van Gogh. I enjoy playing with them from time to time. And I generally love earthy, sooty and white watercolours despite all the academic watercolorists' rules. Sometimes I make drawings just with them, and they feel warm and real/natural to me. I have no intention to buy these very blacks though. But one day I'd like to try out some Roman Szhmal watercolours, like Pink Ultramarine or Perylene Green. Thank you so much for the video. I always enjoy watching them.
I love grape seed the most as well. It is very similar to what would happen if you add a touch of ultramarine blue into your PBk11. I would understand if you splurge on this though, it's remarkably cool for a single pigment all natural plant based paint :D
So glad you reviewed these, I loved you little painting too. I was very attracted to these till I saw the price! I wish they did a smaller size, because they look nice, but offering only I option means unless you are in a position to share many people will not buy these, even though they are specialist charcoal, it cannot possibly cost anywhere near that amount to produce, they are pricing them as if they were a very rare pigment, which they are not. They do look beautiful, but they need to offer smaller tubes too.
I really love the mixes with other colors. That isn't surprising since PBk11 is one of my favorite colors to mix with and the effect is similar. I will probably buy at least one of these in the future, but probably not all three.
These are still on my list 🥰, they're just always sold out at my favourite online retailer and I don't really feel like ordering these somewhere else, when I order everything else there - higher mailing costs and knowing that I'd have carting stuff around for me twice just doesn't feel right, I'd rather like to NOT increase my carbon footprint if I can help it 😅 I really like moody, dark colours, have always enjoyed drawing with graphite and charcoal but am really prone to being smudgy and messy, so these seem really right up my alley :3 I'd only wish they'd offer smaller tubes as well - what am I supposed to do with those gargantuan things should I find out that I not really enjoy working with them or they just don't work for me 🙄
Watching this, I really liked the Cherry Pit Black at first, but I would lean more towards buying the Roman Szmal pan as I only have 5 pans in that line. It was fun to watch a monochromatic paintings. Those are some of my favorite paintings to do.
The downside for me with Roman Szmal is living in Florida the pans are almost unbearably sticky. They always come covered in a thick layer of waxy residue from having to tear off the release-paper covering the top of liquidy glue paints (likely because it's above normal humid here). I failed to mention it as a comparison (but rather just a perk of Schmincke's paint) it's gouache-like opacity and matte finish are unique. It's rare to see such a pitch black masstone be so very matte, with no residue shine like you get from thick layers of gum arabic/honey in watercolor. That being said, Roman Szmal makes lovely paints once painted out and I can totally see enjoying their version of Vine Black. I overall ended up appreciating this pigment more than I thought I would :)
@@KimberlyCrick that's all good info to have, thanks. I live in Colorado, so I deal with those sticky issues with far less frequency (or none!). Thank you!
Ok so I looooove charcoal. I love the look of it, I love the finish, I love the deep, matte, dark blacks you can get. If I had to choose between charcoal and graphite for the rest of my life, charcoal would win 1000% So of course I'm quite loving these. I'm not buying anything new at the moment, but once I do these will probably move to the top of my list. I especially like very cool blacks, so grape seed is a must for me for sure. Definitely going to check these out! (Also how weird was that Nitram product?? What an unpleasant effect it had once dry, with that weird chalky situation. Definitely glad I've not bought a tube of that yet, thanks for the heads-up!!)
Oh yeah, charcoal definitely the winner! As for Nitram I feel like I must have gotten a bad batch or something, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone based on my experience. This grape seed black is soooooo good, I just adore the subtle blue color separation in it :D
Drooling over that Grape Seed! And all of them behaved a lot like Daniel Smith with the granulation, so a big question. I'm in Korea at the moment and DS is too expensive here so will be purchasing another brand line till I can return Stateside. If you were to recommend among Schminke, Sennelier and Winsor Newton which would it be and why? I'm not a flower-type artist, animals and earth tones mostly, and am sleuthing information before I make my purchase. If you don't mind answering. Your content regarding pigmentation, ingredients, shelf life is amazing! 🎨🥰 Cheryl
Overall I recommend pigments first, then brands. My top choices in my palette are all from different brands. Each company does something special or better than the next, and it's not consistently "Daniel Smith is the only choice" or "Schmincke is the best"... but rather x color is best in x brand, x pigment is available from these 3 and they are all about the same quality etc. If you've got a certain color you're looking for feel free to ask. If you're just buying pan sets that are assorted colors there are cheaper alternatives that will do just as well, like White Nights, because those sets tend to be full of non-granulating common pigments that most companies do well. I have a list going of my top recommended lightfast pigments that include which brand I liked the best and why at www.kimcrick.com/pages/top-lightfast-watercolor-pigments
@@KimberlyCrick Wow! Started reading the page but it is so dense with info! Bookmarked it and will check out your WHOLE blog later! And I totally agree about pigments over brands! I do the same, and my DS palette has a few W&N in it because of pigment. I spent hours pouring over Jane Blundell's palette swatches before moving away from the sticky M Grahams (I travel and the lovely colors were a gooey mess on the road) and from what you say you have something similar so will be on your site soon. But I do try to build brand palettes and just augment the palette with choice colors. You mention White Nights, a Russian brand I believe. That name has been popping up in various discussions a lot of late .... something to look further into. Thank you, Kimberly, I found your site a month ago and have learned so much already! So much appreciation for great content 🥰 Cheryl
Yes, they re-wet from dry. Because they are capable of being so thick, matte and opaque, it would be the same as if you dried gouache though. It's easy to make it more watery than intended, but you can use them like any watercolor. If you pre-soak it for a minute you can reactivate enough to still be very dark valued.
I don't personally have a use for it.. I'm not really a fan of the texture and would reach for a regular watercolor for monochrome work which would show detail better.. the fur on the mouse really gets lost with no color difference and all that texture in every layer. I mentioned it to my daughter who has done some work in water soluble graphite and she prefers the convenience and versatility of the pencils. I think the Roman Szmal would be my choice if I did considering it's a quarter of the price. I also don't see enough of a difference between the three shades in the swatches to justify having three of them, although if I had to pick I prefer the warmer one it has the most character.
Definitely can understand not liking the particular texture of these paints. I expect most people will share your feelings on these. However, about the price of Roman Szmal, while definitely cheaper short term - keep in mind that these liquid charcoal tubes are HUGE (ideal for those making larger paintings). They would make more than a few additional full pans compared to the 4 you could get of Roman Szmal's for the same price. The warm one definitely gives the darkest masstone too, so anyone who is looking for a gouache opaque coverage may appreciate them compared to watercolor.
@@KimberlyCrick I saw a review for a collab Van Gogh palette today.. it has a very interesting color selection, not sure if this means they are doing a series of them or what? I saw no mention of it online elsewhere. ruclips.net/video/jqUj5_Dkglg/видео.html
@@waymire01 Haven't seen any of the limited edition curated van gogh palettes, but they may be very limited production. Either way, it does not appear any new colors were made for them, so I won't seek them out unless they make something really special.
Sorry, I haven't used pastels. If you're not adding water I don't see why not, these perform nearly identically to watercolor paints and can be lift/erased if wet.
Is there any chance these can be lifted with a kneaded eraser? I think some of the liquid graphite products can be erased. I love that Schmincke experimented with different plants to give us different hues instead of simply mixing in blue and brown.
Because of the gum arabic binder (like watercolor) they don't lift as easily as regular charcoal powder. I found that it takes significant scrubbing to erase with an eraser, and it lifts much easier with a slightly damp brush or paper towel that breaks down that sap binder. I imagine that the ease of erasing might vary on different types of paper or surface coatings though. I'm really happy with the subtle color differences of the plants too!
@@KimberlyCrick Wow thanks for the quick reply! I haven't used any liquid graphite myself, but I assume it must use gum arabic as well, judging from how it waters down in videos. Maybe it works because graphite is so slick while these seem to have abrasive particles instead. Anyway, thank you for creating such a valuable resource for artists!
@@KimberlyCrick The reluctance to erase might be an advantage leading to more variety of effects by using hard erasers, kneaded eraser, wet natural sponge, wet stumps, brush, knife, Etc etc etc.
Since I can't be certain which part of the video you're asking about a "grainy" effect, check the diagram of where salt was used on the swatch card key image at 7:25 to make sure we're thinking of the same thing and not just the normal texture of these paints. These paints have large particles and are granulating, so there is a sandy sort of texture in them all with or without salt. I used table salt on the right side of the largest box on the swatch cards (where white spots push away the pigment). That exposes the color separation effects more clearly (like the hints of blue you can see in grape seed black's card around 2:42 ).
Roman Szmal makes beautiful watercolors, it's a shame I live in a humid state (FL) and can't appreciate them fully. They stay sticky like glue and often I lose the entire top layer of them to an embedded wax residue from the release paper liner. Even after being put in the freezer they don't come away clean. I bet they are wonderful for those in dry climates :)
All major brands have to add a small amount of anti fungal / mold inhibitor as a preservative to their paints. Otherwise your watercolor/gouache/liquid charcoal would get really gross, especially in a pan where it's re-wet repeatedly by spore-filled tap water loaded brushes.
In my experience these perform extremely similarly and can be used interchangeably, you may be over stating the differences between them. There is a small difference in the binder additives, but both use the same base ingredient - charcoal, suspended in a water soluble binder that can be re-wet from dry and used from a pan just like any watercolor. Happy painting :)
![Stromae, Pomme - “Ma Meilleure Ennemie” (from Arcane Season 2) [Official Visualizer]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1F3OGIFnW1k/mqdefault.jpg)
Sorry about the audio, I moved some stuff around and now my room sounds more echo prone. I rushed a bit to try to get this out to you, so that everyone can make an informed decision before buying this new product. I hope it was helpful :)
I genuinely didn't notice anything off with the audio 😅
@@FaerieDust I'm glad to hear that it wasn't notable, thank you :)
I didn't realise there was a difference but I watched the video on my phone with just the phone speaker... Thank you, by the way, this was another very helpful video! 🥰😘
Perfectly fine! The content was so interesting that IF there was background noise, it went totally unnoticed! 🥰🎨
@@phillipstroll7385 Hi Philip! You commented to me but think you want to make your comment to the great Kimberly! She's so talented, she'll like to your joy in finding her!!!
I just heard about these! Love your videos, and am glad to see these in action. I definitely agree that it seems Schmincke did well... that Grape Seed is gorgeous! The comparison to the other PBk8 paints was helpful, and your artwork is lovely as always. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I had to fight my inner hoarder and not buy 154309832425437 tubes of Grape Seed because of how much I love its subtle blue undertones lol :)
You're an amazing artist and your videos are so relaxing! Thank you for creating them.
Thank you so much, I appreciate that. Happy painting :)
Super useful, thank you!
I will not be buying these as of now, but they are definitely going on my 'don't forget that this thing exists' list! I think I might like these down the line when I get to go to life drawing classes again.
These have been on my wishlist for a while now- I made my own charcoal watercolour that I enjoy using in landscapes for mountains, they granulate and mix with other colours nicely. 😊
Beautiful art. I recently purchased Nitram aquarelle watercolor and love using it for the darkest darks in my watercolor paintings. Thank you for the demonstrating how to use it.
Kimberly comes through! Thank you!!!!
I really like the matte quality of these paints. Yep, I'm going to have to get all three! Love your little mouse illustration! 💜
Thank you for making these videos and taking the time to create them for everyone to enjoy and to make informed decisions prior to purchasing these products. Your videos are so relaxing and informative. Have a wonderful day!
Peach Pit Black is a classic pigment, I'm glad it's available. I wish they also made Cork Black, it was the coolest of all blacks, referred to as "beggar's blue" or "beggar's ultramarine."
Yeah, I too wish they had made cork black. I can't even find a pigment powder supplier. I got so desperate I considered buying cork bark to make charcoal myself. I've heard it called "poor man's ultramarine" since it's the most blue leaning, I really want to know how much cooler than grape seeds it is!
@@KimberlyCrick Wow, I'm not the only one! I want to eventually make a cork black paint and see what colors I could get in a modified "Zorn" palette.
I love all of your videos for how balanced and informative they are, thank you so much for posting them.
I can't get over how adorable your mouse painting is ~~
Thank you so much for the review! These look like they could be really fun for sketches and studies. Also love that they're rewettable, makes paints a lot more convenient
Always excited when you have a video and I always learn something! Cute mouse and really interesting paints. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have made a premixed pan of Ultra Blue, Quin Red, and Viridian that I use and I have labeled it KC Moonglow after you!
Thank you so much and I'm really happy to hear that about Moonglow, I hope the mix is working out well for you :D
Thanks a lot for the detailed review, it was a great idea to mix them with watercolor. I would like to try cherry and grape one time :)
Very interesting video! I have been experimenting mixing graphite and watercolor. You get some very interesting results!
Wow, thanks for this. Must admit, they were on my radar, now they’re in my basket, lol.
I so enjoy your videos and the depth of info you provide. 🌺
The granulation is superb with your chosen color mixes! These would be great for figure drawing with a fudé brush and rice paper. Beautiful work as always!
Sounds like a lovely idea!!! I am looking forward to playing with these in more mixtures. I had some interesting results with greens, particularly Viridian and think they may lend themselves even to botanical art. Happy painting :)
@@KimberlyCrick these could take botanical shading to a whole new level. Thank you for introducing them!
Thank you for this 🙌🏻
What genius gave this video a dislike? 🤦🏼♀️
Thank you for making me laugh about it :D
I love black media. I have more different types of black media than color probably because my forte is Sumi e but these look fun to try.
Grape seed is beautiful! and I love the blended effects. Thanks for this!!!
Really fab and informative review. Been mulling these over for awhile and seeing them in use, both in swatches and in your mouse painting was really helpful. I just love how adding a little color to these "charcoals" makes them so interesting and I can see me using these in my fine art paintings, even if in small portions as I am "color" girl. Ya always need a good black though and I especially love how these fade down to gray, as I rarely use black. I currently use Daniel Smith's Jane's Grey, but think there is a place for these in my art as well. Thanks for a truly helpful review Kimberly. Blessings!
I get so excited everytime you post a video. Thanks so much for sharing♥️
I've been waiting for someone to do a review of these, thanks!
I love your reviews! Are so relaxing and informative ❤️
What a cute little mouse!
I have no Roman Shzmal or Schminke products, but I have Voronezhskaya Black (P.Bk.8, greenish vine black) and Lamp Black (P.Bk.7, the more bluish charcoal/sooty black) by White Nights, and Oxide Black (P.Bk.11, mars black) by Van Gogh. I enjoy playing with them from time to time.
And I generally love earthy, sooty and white watercolours despite all the academic watercolorists' rules. Sometimes I make drawings just with them, and they feel warm and real/natural to me.
I have no intention to buy these very blacks though. But one day I'd like to try out some Roman Szhmal watercolours, like Pink Ultramarine or Perylene Green.
Thank you so much for the video. I always enjoy watching them.
Oh no, i like grape seed version so much. But I have PBk11 already.
I love grape seed the most as well. It is very similar to what would happen if you add a touch of ultramarine blue into your PBk11. I would understand if you splurge on this though, it's remarkably cool for a single pigment all natural plant based paint :D
So glad you reviewed these, I loved you little painting too. I was very attracted to these till I saw the price! I wish they did a smaller size, because they look nice, but offering only I option means unless you are in a position to share many people will not buy these, even though they are specialist charcoal, it cannot possibly cost anywhere near that amount to produce, they are pricing them as if they were a very rare pigment, which they are not. They do look beautiful, but they need to offer smaller tubes too.
They just came out with 5 ml tube sets! They're on sale at Jackson's right now:-)
This was very helpful. Love your mouse! I just bought some Schmincke Liquid Charcoal.
I really love the mixes with other colors. That isn't surprising since PBk11 is one of my favorite colors to mix with and the effect is similar. I will probably buy at least one of these in the future, but probably not all three.
These are still on my list 🥰, they're just always sold out at my favourite online retailer and I don't really feel like ordering these somewhere else, when I order everything else there - higher mailing costs and knowing that I'd have carting stuff around for me twice just doesn't feel right, I'd rather like to NOT increase my carbon footprint if I can help it 😅
I really like moody, dark colours, have always enjoyed drawing with graphite and charcoal but am really prone to being smudgy and messy, so these seem really right up my alley :3 I'd only wish they'd offer smaller tubes as well - what am I supposed to do with those gargantuan things should I find out that I not really enjoy working with them or they just don't work for me 🙄
They just came out with 5ml tube sets! On sale right now at Jackson's 😃
Watching this, I really liked the Cherry Pit Black at first, but I would lean more towards buying the Roman Szmal pan as I only have 5 pans in that line. It was fun to watch a monochromatic paintings. Those are some of my favorite paintings to do.
The downside for me with Roman Szmal is living in Florida the pans are almost unbearably sticky. They always come covered in a thick layer of waxy residue from having to tear off the release-paper covering the top of liquidy glue paints (likely because it's above normal humid here). I failed to mention it as a comparison (but rather just a perk of Schmincke's paint) it's gouache-like opacity and matte finish are unique. It's rare to see such a pitch black masstone be so very matte, with no residue shine like you get from thick layers of gum arabic/honey in watercolor. That being said, Roman Szmal makes lovely paints once painted out and I can totally see enjoying their version of Vine Black. I overall ended up appreciating this pigment more than I thought I would :)
@@KimberlyCrick that's all good info to have, thanks. I live in Colorado, so I deal with those sticky issues with far less frequency (or none!). Thank you!
Ok so I looooove charcoal. I love the look of it, I love the finish, I love the deep, matte, dark blacks you can get. If I had to choose between charcoal and graphite for the rest of my life, charcoal would win 1000%
So of course I'm quite loving these. I'm not buying anything new at the moment, but once I do these will probably move to the top of my list. I especially like very cool blacks, so grape seed is a must for me for sure. Definitely going to check these out!
(Also how weird was that Nitram product?? What an unpleasant effect it had once dry, with that weird chalky situation. Definitely glad I've not bought a tube of that yet, thanks for the heads-up!!)
Oh yeah, charcoal definitely the winner! As for Nitram I feel like I must have gotten a bad batch or something, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone based on my experience. This grape seed black is soooooo good, I just adore the subtle blue color separation in it :D
Never heard about these paints! The little mouse was lovely XD
I think grape seed can be use as single pigment payne's grey.
Would the liquid charcoal blend the way it's blended via a dry brush or a tortillon like ordinary charcoal would?
Drooling over that Grape Seed! And all of them behaved a lot like Daniel Smith with the granulation, so a big question. I'm in Korea at the moment and DS is too expensive here so will be purchasing another brand line till I can return Stateside. If you were to recommend among Schminke, Sennelier and Winsor Newton which would it be and why? I'm not a flower-type artist, animals and earth tones mostly, and am sleuthing information before I make my purchase. If you don't mind answering. Your content regarding pigmentation, ingredients, shelf life is amazing! 🎨🥰 Cheryl
Overall I recommend pigments first, then brands. My top choices in my palette are all from different brands. Each company does something special or better than the next, and it's not consistently "Daniel Smith is the only choice" or "Schmincke is the best"... but rather x color is best in x brand, x pigment is available from these 3 and they are all about the same quality etc. If you've got a certain color you're looking for feel free to ask. If you're just buying pan sets that are assorted colors there are cheaper alternatives that will do just as well, like White Nights, because those sets tend to be full of non-granulating common pigments that most companies do well. I have a list going of my top recommended lightfast pigments that include which brand I liked the best and why at www.kimcrick.com/pages/top-lightfast-watercolor-pigments
@@KimberlyCrick Wow! Started reading the page but it is so dense with info! Bookmarked it and will check out your WHOLE blog later! And I totally agree about pigments over brands! I do the same, and my DS palette has a few W&N in it because of pigment. I spent hours pouring over Jane Blundell's palette swatches before moving away from the sticky M Grahams (I travel and the lovely colors were a gooey mess on the road) and from what you say you have something similar so will be on your site soon. But I do try to build brand palettes and just augment the palette with choice colors. You mention White Nights, a Russian brand I believe. That name has been popping up in various discussions a lot of late .... something to look further into. Thank you, Kimberly, I found your site a month ago and have learned so much already! So much appreciation for great content 🥰 Cheryl
Hi! Awesome video. Can I put the schmincke liquid charchoal in a pan and let it dry? Would it work? and use it like watercolor pans style? Thanks!!
Yes, they re-wet from dry. Because they are capable of being so thick, matte and opaque, it would be the same as if you dried gouache though. It's easy to make it more watery than intended, but you can use them like any watercolor. If you pre-soak it for a minute you can reactivate enough to still be very dark valued.
@@KimberlyCrick thank you very much again! I finally bought them and made custom pans. They’re gorgeous to work with 😀
Nice review! Do these need to be fixated like regular charcoal or they can be left alone on paper like watercolours?
They have a binder, gum arabic, just like watercolors so they don't rub off the page :D
I don't personally have a use for it.. I'm not really a fan of the texture and would reach for a regular watercolor for monochrome work which would show detail better.. the fur on the mouse really gets lost with no color difference and all that texture in every layer. I mentioned it to my daughter who has done some work in water soluble graphite and she prefers the convenience and versatility of the pencils. I think the Roman Szmal would be my choice if I did considering it's a quarter of the price. I also don't see enough of a difference between the three shades in the swatches to justify having three of them, although if I had to pick I prefer the warmer one it has the most character.
Definitely can understand not liking the particular texture of these paints. I expect most people will share your feelings on these. However, about the price of Roman Szmal, while definitely cheaper short term - keep in mind that these liquid charcoal tubes are HUGE (ideal for those making larger paintings). They would make more than a few additional full pans compared to the 4 you could get of Roman Szmal's for the same price. The warm one definitely gives the darkest masstone too, so anyone who is looking for a gouache opaque coverage may appreciate them compared to watercolor.
@@KimberlyCrick I saw a review for a collab Van Gogh palette today.. it has a very interesting color selection, not sure if this means they are doing a series of them or what? I saw no mention of it online elsewhere. ruclips.net/video/jqUj5_Dkglg/видео.html
@@waymire01 Haven't seen any of the limited edition curated van gogh palettes, but they may be very limited production. Either way, it does not appear any new colors were made for them, so I won't seek them out unless they make something really special.
Why there are soo few videos at the moment??? Missing your videos SO MUCH 😢
I was wondering if these would work well as a value underpainting for pastels? If no one has tried it, will will take the plunge.
Sorry, I haven't used pastels. If you're not adding water I don't see why not, these perform nearly identically to watercolor paints and can be lift/erased if wet.
Is there any chance these can be lifted with a kneaded eraser? I think some of the liquid graphite products can be erased.
I love that Schmincke experimented with different plants to give us different hues instead of simply mixing in blue and brown.
Because of the gum arabic binder (like watercolor) they don't lift as easily as regular charcoal powder. I found that it takes significant scrubbing to erase with an eraser, and it lifts much easier with a slightly damp brush or paper towel that breaks down that sap binder. I imagine that the ease of erasing might vary on different types of paper or surface coatings though. I'm really happy with the subtle color differences of the plants too!
@@KimberlyCrick Wow thanks for the quick reply!
I haven't used any liquid graphite myself, but I assume it must use gum arabic as well, judging from how it waters down in videos. Maybe it works because graphite is so slick while these seem to have abrasive particles instead.
Anyway, thank you for creating such a valuable resource for artists!
@@KimberlyCrick The reluctance to erase might be an advantage leading to more variety of effects by using hard erasers, kneaded eraser, wet natural sponge, wet stumps, brush, knife, Etc etc etc.
Love that these are vegan 💞
Do you use salt for the grainy effect?
Since I can't be certain which part of the video you're asking about a "grainy" effect, check the diagram of where salt was used on the swatch card key image at 7:25 to make sure we're thinking of the same thing and not just the normal texture of these paints. These paints have large particles and are granulating, so there is a sandy sort of texture in them all with or without salt. I used table salt on the right side of the largest box on the swatch cards (where white spots push away the pigment). That exposes the color separation effects more clearly (like the hints of blue you can see in grape seed black's card around 2:42 ).
the grape seed looks like a neutral tint I have. I love roman szmal paints the honey creates beautiful flow.
Roman Szmal makes beautiful watercolors, it's a shame I live in a humid state (FL) and can't appreciate them fully. They stay sticky like glue and often I lose the entire top layer of them to an embedded wax residue from the release paper liner. Even after being put in the freezer they don't come away clean. I bet they are wonderful for those in dry climates :)
Can these be mixed with watercolor?
Answered my question 3 seconds later in the video! Thanks. This is why I live your videos, because you are about as throw as you can be
All these products carry a 'contains biocides' declaration on the package. I wonder what these 'biocides' are.
All major brands have to add a small amount of anti fungal / mold inhibitor as a preservative to their paints. Otherwise your watercolor/gouache/liquid charcoal would get really gross, especially in a pan where it's re-wet repeatedly by spore-filled tap water loaded brushes.
@@KimberlyCrick Ah yes indeed, the gum arabic is like food for mold ;-)
Are you now comparing watercolor paint to liqiud charcoal? That's like comparing apples to oranges.
In my experience these perform extremely similarly and can be used interchangeably, you may be over stating the differences between them. There is a small difference in the binder additives, but both use the same base ingredient - charcoal, suspended in a water soluble binder that can be re-wet from dry and used from a pan just like any watercolor. Happy painting :)