Yet another RP Game Cash Grab has released into Early Access...
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
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The RP genre seems to be full of devs promising FiveM levels of depth when they’ve got the mental capacity of cake frosting.
With the existence of FiveM there is no point in making a standalone RP game, it would be much easier as an indie dev to just build off the foundation of GTA instead of trying to make a detailed world, vehicle physics, player controller etc.
Hey at least cake frosting completes it's job properly 😔
The devs making these types of games are the RP players that wear the admin outfits.
FiveM levels?
They could be happy if they reach GMod levels honestly.
It's insane that they want to release "early access games" that somehow have less content in it than some of the gmod servers 10 years ago that did most of the scripts themselves. 100€ for lifetime premium there somehow doesn't sound as bad anymore when these games cost 25.
and the funding/resources of a small lemonade stand
The guy sprints like he's running uphill
Like he's got a log in his cheeks.
It's from ALS 4.0, an animation system package for Unreal Engine. It's a great package for prototyping, *not* polished enough for a shippable product.
Nah that’s just because he’s running SO fast! - For real it’s probably because the person that made it has never sprinted before. 🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔
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I feel the character runs like i run in dreams
Tanner stole $150 from me when I hired him to do contract work and he ghosted me shortly after, im going to make sure everyone knows this man is liar and a thief until the day i can tell him directly to his face.
My drug dealer stole $100 from me and I still haven't gotten any Oxy 3 months later. I don't think an online campaign works in my situation
@@bbrradd1 I'm hoping those pills don't become an addiction that leads you to destruction. Best of luck Brad.
You don't need to tell us mate, we already know.
@@xLionsxxSmithyx You ever heard of catharsis mate?
@@charles281 alright don't twist your knickers.
The meta is that the devs are the ones RP'ing as devs.
It's almost like these Early Access scam devs wake up in the morning & choose to go to war with BigFry & Kira.
I think a lot of new small / solo indie devs think that the way it works is you can have a grandiose vision for a game with no real direction on how to realistically materialize it, and think you can slap together a barely functional skeleton that will get you tens of millions of dollars to then fund your game from the ground up, and no one will say otherwise.
Not every studio is like the dev from Kenshi, who will fight and scrap for over a decade to make that dream a reality, and will either realize they are way over their head, or it truly was a scam and they just move onto their next cash grab.
Free advertisement.
@@DemothHymside The sad part is, with their skills they could actually make good low budget indie type games
@@mattd5240idk bro, I feel like this isn’t good advertising. If big fry roasts you I will likely never buy something you release, and I know there are more like me
@helpumuch6887 I never said it was good publicity. Some people must be so desperate for anything, though. If you can't become famous, become infamous.
Never pre-order, never buy day 1, and never purchase microtransactions.
Idk micro transactions aren’t all bad. I played paladins for years without ever spending money and decided to buy a few skin packs cuz I felt bad they weren’t making more money off of me. Squad got ripped off, I have been playing it for years and only spent the $20 or whatever it was when it first dropped
Yea, never purchase microtransactions is a really bad take.
@@user-gd2gffwea yea there’s good and bad ways to do it, especially in a paid game that already costs $60-$70 but paladins was free and still had some solid stuff to earn through play and they had drip feed chests that let you unlock paid skins without paying so coulda been worse.
I def miss the days of grinding call of duty challenges to unlock camos and stuff instead of having to open my wallet to get anything cool
You sir sound like someone who hates fun
@@andrewcavese1387 no he is someone that hates losing his money to a shitty company that lies to our faces, as do I
That sprint animation says it all. Like trying to run in your dreams.
Someone mentioned this going to be a horrible mess and end up like everything else Tanner has done. I posted a link to this video. 5 minutes later got banned from the Steam forum and the thread was deleted. Achievement Unlocked!
It's like, by their actions they validated your concerns of it being a scam.
Always makes me laugh that the go-to for ANY argument is "You just don't understand the nuances!". 😂
That Earth 2 teaser got me superexcited. I had almost forgotten about that "game".
As a developer myself, I can't agree with you more about the issues with scoping. I want to add that many beginner developers begin at the wrong end. They blow all of their time, energy and money on fancy looks rather than building infrastructure and game mechanics first. You can always add pretty looks later, and if you get a publisher, they probably would want to change the looks anyway, or at least have some input. And there are many more people that can help making a good game look good, than help making a beautiful game good.
Isn't Earth 2 a scam?
Earth 2 still seems determined to keep going, they have uploaded quite a bit over the while, I'd love to see Bigfry, Kira and maybe a few others cover it again as I'm not 100% sure what to think of their latest bunch of videos. They seem to have a working in-game basis but it's still all fairly curated and does hardly show proper gameplay interaction other than running, flying, driving or boating around the map. Their skin/cosmetics showcases look awkward, like check out that weird Anubis thing. Going strong on that FOMO at any rate.
I am a amature indie game Dev so I know that projects with smaller scopes are easier to do then with crazy stuff like this that will probably only be made by scammers or people with no realistic expectations.
(also if you want at a later stage in development I can give you a beta of my gamemaker platformer)
Lol!
2:05 I love the shout-out to Earth2, lol. I can't wait for that video.
Those pukes have bought around 700k bot subs this year.
just a few months left till 2025 :)
Is he using the "Only Up!" movement asset pack 😂
He is indeed using the als controller
Ahh the UE4 ALS (Advance Locomotion System) that all of these asset flips have.
Grifting aside, it strikes me that the guy has a genuine interest in building some sort of unique, niche RP experience. If he just focussed in a small vertical slice to prove the concept he’d get so much more momentum (if done well), albeit far fewer dollars. Oh wait I see the problem.
Tanner probably just shits out a UE tech demo whenever hes short on rent hoping some shmuck will give him that extra $20
The way he sprints is how i sprint in every dream where i need to run fast and cant.
Like the floor is a treadmill
Those animation look like the animation locomotion system
Because it is
Bigger doesn't always equal better.
Smaller scale and scope can allow your good ideas to be executed better, rather than being bogged down by all the drivel of trying to meet some arbitrary checklist of what you think a massive open world game needs.
Just place a million chests with meaningless coins or somesuch all around in the world and have the player repeat the same set of copy and paste "kill this, drive that, jump there" missions. Ubisoft has survived with that lazy formula for an eternity.
Cant wait for that earth 2 video. Would be a cool throwback to the first video of yours i ever watched
Oh shit! Tanner is back?! Well honestly doesn’t seem like anything has changed. I guess we’ll see where the saga of this “game” goes lol
This is exactly why I started going for the modding route back in 2017 instead of game development, I have made multiples short game projects over the years, and I never released them, bcs I knew it was for fun and by looking at all the works I had to do, I knew it was impossible to finish this projects, plus there is soooo much stuff to consider as soon as you go 3D, and if you go multiplayer it's even worst lol.
Like you said in this video going for a 3D game, requires you to learn texturing (UVs, art style, etc...), 3D modeling (blender, maya, etc...), you need to learn how collisions works, LODs, etc...
and even more important: "The project structure & Code optimization", the structure of a project is so important, as an example, a singleplayer game is completely different from a multiplayer game structure, you can't just throw "multiplayer" onto a singleplayer game like that, it requires a lot of refactoring, etc... and the way of building the project is really different...
there is so much stuff to learn that this is an impossible task for one man !
This is why I started learning reverse engineering (IDA, x64dbg, ...) and C++ back in 2017, started by modding singleplayer games, nowadays I have the skills to create more ambitious modding projects bcs I have learn so many stuff over the years, but even with that, creating a fully 3D multiplayer open world game is an impossible task for one man. A 2D multiplayer game yeah it could be a more realistic approch, but let's be real, no one will buy a 2D game in 2024, at least not from a random guy, and not sure it would be worth the time involved in the project.
Ppls like the guy in the video should consider going for FiveM/GTA 5 modding first (or others open world games), it's full of resources, the community can help and it also make you learn some technical stuff and how a game works etc... or they should go for a simple 2D game project as you said.
Dunno about the "no one will buy a 2D game from a single guy in 2024". I mean Stardew Valley and the likes exist. I think it's less about 2D vs. 3D but more about identity, direction, style. Sure, there are these elite gaming "graphics matter the most" people. But they are perhaps not the majority.
@@Lenariet I mean yeah there is exceptions like always but personally 2D games are not my cup of tea, and that's the case for a lot of ppls.
I played some 2D games in my life, but what makes me love video games was definitely 3D games and not something else ! So I could understand ppls not wanting to develop a 2D game, bcs there is already so much of them on the market !
I grew up with the early 3D games like Goldeneye, Half-Life & GTA III, so it's really difficult for me to get appealed by a 2D game when I can just replay these early 3D legends !
I'm pretty sure if 3D games never existed I would never have been a gamer tbh.
Wow, that running animation, lmao!
This game belongs in the 90s!
This game belongs in the trash.
90s had better games than this
@@NIGHTCRAWL3 We always had trash games.
But most of the devs on those at least tried the best they could and didn't just throw something on the market.
Tanner about to drop an early access game... *hears boss music*
Nightmares of a giant fry ensue and boss music intensifies.
This was absolutely a throwback
Never had a problem with Tanner making games...Charging people for money while he learns how to game dev and leans too heavily on the engine itself is his ultimate sin. He is literally leaning on the Unreal engine to make this game, alongside more and more assets. He fails at every corner in the delicate nuances of game dev and doesn't focus on what is important, rather he aims for flair and dressing making the crappiest of experiences.
I remember the trailers from years ago, tanner strikes again
welcome back to the channel Tanner you must love punishment
Ohhhhh Earth 2. I forgot about that. I need a new video of that soooooo baddddddd
That town center looks familiar is it the one from his last game or just the same asset other people use in their flips?
Did you hear? He just posted a new map with a huge update. He even took advice and is trying to fix the vehicle problem. Might want to check it out and do a new video lol
"conact admin"
it is ALSV4 with the cars from the city sample and the neighborhood pack nothing especial
Guess Tanner needed a cash infusion.
Absolutely spot on. Fun critique. Cheers! :-) "I'm not gonna leave a link down below cos...." hahaha
I greatly enjoy BigFrys humour. Makes me chuckle
A good example of an Indie Roleplay game is SpaceStation13 and all of it's forks. Its such an in-depth multiplayer immersive sim and they got to do that because of the simple artstyle.
6:48 Ride the wild wheel of woe! 😂
god hearing tanners name again is a throw back
“Tanner would have to pay ME.” had me dying 😂
That running animation is a free asset on the marketplace
12:00 the environment looks very similar to Haven Springs from Life is Strange : True Colors...no joke
This channel is ruthless and I’m here for it.
is there any video coming about Road To Vostok Demo 2?
Love the vid man!
Reminds me of nik with his game greed of man 🤣
I missed these videos man lol good job
Isn't this the default UE character animation while walking?
Some of these indie devs really do have their head in the clouds. Starting off with a smaller title is the way to go. Big successful games usually have hundreds or thousands of devs. The biggest games like CoD have like 3000 people working on it with probably a 100,000 years of combined video game development experience. Successful studios build out their portfolio and experience over a long period of time. A lot of indie devs seem to overlook the fact that knowledge in a studio is "generational". As in people go in and out from working there but the knowledge they impart on the company as a whole is crucial. One or a few people that have been messing around with dev tools for a few years, its just never going to work for a big game in terms of scope.
Earth 2, glad you haven’t forgotten
I highly recommend if you're going to make a role-play game that involves cops firefighters EMS you start out with a giant City that's going to be the main city of the map and just have that be an enclosed area thats starting out in development have all the core Mechanics for that area working and fine tune any thing that could be going wrong like glitches that you know could break the game and then after you've had that area built up add on another city that's maybe a little bit smaller with a decent way there like maybe an underground tunnel or going through a dense forest that you can go off the road and somewhat Explorer that way you could work on the whole entire map bit by bit and the community would be happier because if you're working on the whole map the entire time and not just one area you're going to have way more problems if you're a small developing team of like three people but you decide to instead go with what I threw out as an idea like working on certain big cities and allowing access down the road as they become better and more playable I feel like that these projects could actually do well but then again we also had that game called identity that was horrible but that game was literally just a cash grab but if you have developers who truly want to make a game I feel like if they do my idea of how to work on it it could go better but I'm not a game developer I have no knowledge on developing games whatsoever this is just what I think could work better
I literally yesterday started to ponder where is E2 content and instantly got the answer when opened this video today 😂
Would love to seee you cover a game like Pinhead Adventures!
The earth 2 teaser is all i can think about now
3:16 isn’t that Squad?
"It's just me and my mate and we wanna make GTA 73"
Idiots.
I couldn't even finish the shoot-em-up I started.
Ha, the Rozankaotank strikes again. I admire his moxie, if anything
My observations:
Game looks like it has a great start, for an "Alpha" state.
Needs a lot of work gameplay and functionality-wise.
Price tag shouldn't be $25.00 considering how empty it is.
Potential solutions:
Shouldn't have released it yet.
Should've did more testing.
Recommend using a free-to-play modal with optional purchasable content such as cosmetics.
This would have increased it's popularity, player count, and likelihood people would buy cosmetics.
Earth 2... what a throwback
Ohhh shit the Direct contact of role playing games
First 5 seconds of the video I can already count the assets on my fingers. Just an asset flip
One of the best RP games I've played was Altis Life, about 9 years or so ago, and, you had to buy Arma to play it. It was so popular and deserved plenty of upkeep, but i dont think it ever got it.
Still runs better then Dead Matter
Fucking pissed myself laughing at the "he can go fuck himself" comment. Hilarious 😂
Why would I play this when I can just play GTA 5 for RP?
nah bro, its just an alpha!!
Lol.
@asmbeats5369 you guys don't understand the nuances ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I really miss when you would play these and crap all over them. That was what I subbed for.
They didnt even bother to change the character animations lol its the same animation of Advanced Locomotion System that is free on UE marketplace
I’ve said it a million times, early access KILLS games.. Very few EA games get full releases, even fewer have all the content they promise and of those that actually do release, virtually none maintain a player base. Your game needs to be far enough along to have a decent ‘hook’ for players to enjoy.
Unless you’re extremely hard up for cash or are literally trying to scam people out of their money, I don’t see the benefit of releasing your game into EA. Develop your game, make sure it’s fun, release into beta or better.
Yeah ALS project on marketplace
Maybe all these developers have Shame Kinks
Oh, he also said he's only 20
Lock N Load, Fry!
Ah snap here we go again
As soon as you charge money for something it is 100% open to criticism. It's just that simple.
everything is open to criticism.
it's just way more likely that most people will judge your product less harshly if it's entirely free for obvious reasons - as soon as you ask for money (especially if you overprice it) or mtx (especially if you overprice those as well) people are more critical automatically - the higher the price, the more functionality and polish it has to deliver.
Still looks better than, The Day Before.
I would love to do a kickstarter and create a kickass zombie survival game, one that the community has been waiting for and truly deserves. But I know that I couldn't manage it properly.
There is too much competition in this space. Even talented well-meaning devs would struggle to make such a game a commercial success. Especially since even Epic have made it so people can make their own games in the Fortnight UE. Even AI will be able to do a decent job of making games like this just from casual text.
Ooouh baby, im all about that earth 2 drama
My last name is Tanner.... and I'm Australian..... and I'm an Indie Dev..... uhhhhhh
Tanner’s back baby!!!🤣
lol those parked cars in the game have covors on them ... that's some laziness right there
Tanner is like the Jr. version of Sergey Titov 😂
it's his son ඞ
I think the wildest part about this is he was able to get the rights to Andrew Tate’s likeness, including his realistic running and jumping movements!
(Not exactly sure about the running and jumping being Andrew Tate-like, but I think it’s awesome imagining it is).
They are using the same assets as Only Up. The guy runs the exact same way.
Fntastic probably hired some of these guys for The Day Before..
Why not go the unturned route? Free, but have a supporter pack for like five bucks, maybe skin boxes
Im here waiting for the devs to send an email to take the video down so we can laugh at them
That running animation is 100% scuffed
Man, the shadow cabal needs to reconvene on the Earth 2 saga lol. 10 days ago Arya suggested that:
1. Facebook changed their name to Meta *because* of the success of E2.
2. Allegedly E2 CEO Shane met with billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk.
3. Meta's failed metaverse project has developers jumping ship to E2.
None of his claims are backed by proof, of course, and he claims that they are speculations. But whatever that man is smoking must be some good shit.
Lol yeah saw some comments where he said some of that. I also jumped through a video of him being on the GDC where he looked at a bunch of mEtAvErSe projects, one being E2, the other StarAtlas and I think the third "Wilder World" or something. In case of E2 and unless I missed something it seemingly was just a screen with some prerecorded in-game video running. Also looked like barely anyone else was there. But I know too little about the GDC to determine if that was normal for this event or an actual proof of lack of interest for this stuff.
that city in new citizen is from Life Is Strange: True Color straight thief
i feel the same way about peak.53 with that fake ass socom and H hour i put money into that too just for it to fail.
12:01 🤣🤣
These devs are fucking shameless.
BIGFRY MADE A POLITICAL STATEMENT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I bet this is an asset flip
The first thing i was told, when trying to get into game dev, was that you are never going to get your game to be exactly as you thought it would be when you first dreamt it. it will never be EXACTLY as you invisioned it. You must be prepared to change your mindset on the game you're making or you're going to get stuck in this kind of shit. people are going to tell you your ideas are shit. people are not going to like the stuff you put in your game. you need to be ready to let go and cut content that you thought was good. and you need to be ready to quite possibly drop the things that you really wanted in the first place. you might even have to drop the project as a whole before it even gets ahead. That's where you need to be as a dev, you need to be realistic about what you CAN do.
What engine did this game use?
he mentioned it various times
There's another one called Denizen releasing this year. Hope springs eternal, eh?
Let's just hope Inhabitant releases soon. But I heard people are also looking forward to Natives.