And she won't give up now she knows her Ness still loves her. Got a feeling this won't happen straight away. Charity will do all sorts to get her Ness back. But I do hope it is soon.🤞🤞🤞
YEP !!!! Here's that fire again ... That fire in her that she used to have a couple of years ago. It took only one simple move from V ( and good writing for once ) and it all set inside of her. Come on Charity do your thing. Rock our world girl. On a side note, I really like Rhona's mom. I think she'll play a part in it too.
That's the spirit! 💪💘 Go Charity!!! 😁 Can't wait for MacKenzi making a fool of himself with a grand romantic gesture just to get dumbed again... and then we are hopefully on the highway to Vanity again! 🤞
I see the fire in Charity's eyes like the first time when they played around and wine seller and like she said she will rock her world charity just has to keep pursuing Vanessa because Vanessa still loves her that is the level for life
Okay that was really intense but that is right Charity you fight for what you have with Vanessa. I don't understand that Vanessa is scared of getting hurt but they deserve to have a second chance and work this out together.
I so so want vanity back together. I actually feel i would enjoy Mac more as a character if he was removed from charity and Vanessa's situation and they focused on something else, maybe on developing his sibling relationship with moira more or something like that. Or having him involved in a another dodgy scheme with someone else, maybe cain or even possibly kim tate. He could be used in a much more interesting way. Now come on charity, get your woman back 🥰
Everything happened so fast in this storyline…. Great job from the screenwriters. Anyway, Charity can’t go on with Mak, now that she knows that Ness still loves her. It’s impossible ! First of all, i think she will break up with Mackenzie, and then will fight for her. Cant wait to see the next episodes omg 😍😍
Man just the tension and fire that Charity and Vanessa still have is just great and hopefully they do properly kiss and screw Mack he’s a scheming and overly possessive guy
Come on Charity get your Tiny Blonde Rocket Woman back. You could see Vanessa was trying not to cave in. She was holding back. Revisit to the cellar, that would do the trick.🤣🤣🤣
I do think it’s going to go back to the Cellar. They’ll get tricked back in there and things will happen. They won’t be able resist or escape their feelings.
@@PtoRicanDBLT I do hope so. Been waiting so long for this. I would love to see them back in the cellar. Vanity & Meena is the only storylines I enjoy at the moment. Bring it on.!
No matter what happens, Mack is going to get hurt and blame V. Charity has never really been deep with him and has always held him at arms length emotional wise waiting for V. V loves her so much still, she’s willing to walk away to not cause her more trouble or have someone as lowlife as Mack be hurt because of her. Mack didn’t give two shits in destroying Charity’s life when he first came to town. This just shows the caliber and difference between them. I’m hoping he realizes Charity is still in love with V, which he already knows but ignores, and let’s her go. Part of me wants Charity to corner Vanessa somewhere private and kiss her but I also don’t want Vanessa to blame/be angry at Charity or herself for helping Charity cheat. She’ll need to end it cleanly with Mack in order for them to really have a shot at being happy together and not have that guilt over their heads. I think the best thing will be for Mack to get out of the way, on his own, and let them be happy.
@@ellesmith4564 he deffo knows ,emmerdale has made that obvious ,even Charity knows he knows she has to rein Mack in everytime he sees Vanessa with Charity
Never liked him full stop when he first came in. And I still don't. Just wish he would bog off. Charity was never into him full stop, he was a distraction for her that's all.
Agree with you. Yet, Mac isn't gonna go away that easily. I think part of his obsession with Charity is the fact that she is a challenge to him. I'm not sure he loves her so much as he WANTS to possess her and control her, a bit like Cain did years ago. Charity needs to make it perfectly clear that she doesn't love him the way she loves Vanessa. and that there's no future for them, whatsoever. Then I think she needs to sit back, allow the dust to settle over the breakup with Mac and be patient with Vanessa... not push her. Allow Vanessa to come to her, just as she did the other day. Otherwise, Vanessa is just gonna dig her heels in and stubbornly push back. Vanessa has to come to the conclusion, on her own, that she needs, wants and loves Charity still. She needs to see Charity standing on her own and stalwart in the love she has for her.
V . "You really love her dont you" M . "Yes i do but that doesn't seem to be enough" V . "well it could be" He's right it doesn't matter how much he loves Charity,it will never be enough to make her love him back ,there is no point in Charity staying with Mack now, its time to tell him how she really feels ,no matter who it hurts ,shes gave it a chance and she doesn't love him ,staying with him is just cruel Charity at the end though " i will never give up on us" 😍
No, Vanessa. It couldn’t be. It’s never been there and it never will be. And definitely not while the love of her life is right in front of her! Don’t fool yourself into losing her
Come on Vanessa go get your girl you know you want to,no way is it in the past not with that look on your face.Mckenzie do one please let Charity go and let vanity reign again .
I think she'll do it now that she knows for sure that Vanessa still loves her. She was hedging her bets before. Not cool, but we're only human, after all😁
I love how jai turned and looked at mckenszie when he said to vanessa "you know charity better than anyone" its like come on m8 how do you have the balls 2 ask for NESS advice when it comes to charity.. Ness had 2 be patient with Charity for them 2 get to the meaningful parts of love etc. it didn't happen overnight. I kind of love how the whole village knows how much Ness meant and means 2 charity & only a fool would try and mess with that.. whether VANITY are together or not.
Way to go, Charity! Now tell the manipulating "boy toy", in no uncertain terms, (and leave Ryan's feelings out of it) where he truly stands, and has always stood, with you... once and for all. Clear the way for getting Vanessa back and go after the woman you truly love. She's a hardheaded, stubborn and seemingly fickle little vixen, that can't even be honest with herself about her own feelings, but... go get the love of your life, girlfriend! It's gonna be an uphill battle, but... you'll never forgive yourself if you don't at least try!! You're worth it, even if she... might not be... all that she seems to be.
Taking off on Charity's last comment, "I will never give up on us", I'd love to either hear one of the following songs in the background or better yet... see her sing/dance to one, after she extricates herself, in a gentle, heartfelt and totally honest way, from the "boy toy"! "I Won't Give Up On Us" by Jason Mraz "If Only You Knew" by Patti Labelle "New Attitude" by Patti Labelle. (I think this would fit right in with the new 'power suits" she's been wearing, due to the pub ownership. And especially that... snazzy new belt! LOL. LOVE the look of that belt buckle!!) "Fight Song" by Rachel Platten. Know it'll never happen, but... it's a nice dream, yeah? One I felt like sharing...
“I don’t know if I’ve made things better or worse” Because she’s tried to help MacPrat get Charity back, thereby losing her herself? “I think you should give him his chance”. Charity can’t give him his chance when she doesn’t love him! She never has and she never will. And definitely not now when the love of her life is right in front of her every day!And it was Vanessa who told her before ( when she first came back) how unfair she was being stringing him along? 🤷♀️ Charity, dump him! Show Vanessa you’re free and waiting for her 🤞
"I will never give up on us". That's the spirit, bravery of love, I saw Charity Dingle spark back. It's Vanessa that make feel excited, passionately, lively again. But she should fix it or break off with McKenzie before starting sorting out with Ness. She doesn't want to be part on making a cheating thing normal she feels being cheated upon and been hurt, she doesn't play a part of cheating game that night hurt other people.
guys,,problems,,who needs it,,somthing is gonna happen to one of them,,i have that feeling,,just to prove how much they love each other,,,thank u vanity,,have a great day,,;))
Vanessa it was Mackenzie’s fault because he set off the sprinkler that destroyed Liv and Vinny’s wedding reception they were supposed to be celebrating With Liv and vinny after they got Married and Mack ruined it
Always feeling conflicted when someone says, I'm never giving up on us. Vause yes fighting for love is awesome and romantic and whatever. But in reality there needs to be an end at some point before it gets like psycho
Charity knows the boundaries with Vanessa and she respects Vanessa’s space. Mack doesn’t know boundaries with Charity and he’s overly possessive and jealous
Well now! Why aren't soaps more often included in top scenes and reviews by folks. Anyway I love this they finally are making lesbian relationships multi dimensional. Not saying it's right or wrong but I love been listening to soaps since conception have me hearing dead ass. Mama watched days of our lives and another world on NBC while I was stewing in 86 lol. Came out as soon as I could move on my home the moment that like sand through the hour glass these or here are the days of our lives. Crawled to the TV plopped down and was stuck at 1. There are storyline I remember before youtube came out I remembered but they aired in 87 88 89 and I'm like shit I was 123 literally. How the fuck do I vividly remember Ernesto Stefano hope and hopes kidnapping by Stefanio. It's funny the brain and absolutely amazing because my brain keeps thinking hope disappeared but it aired as if she could've also died in show of course the character yet even before really understanding life and death and real and fake because I don't think my mom knew at the time I was as deeply as I was absorbing the show at 1 you know. She probably thought I just liked the sound and it had become comforting. While partially true I immediately recognized hearing the sound after birth hearing it 5 days a week for 9 months lol. They had vcr so mama recorded her fave soaps when she and dad had to work. Or she. Anyway there was always that one or 2 characters who could be villainous like catwoman archetypes bad and could be good. They have decent hearts like would put there life on the line to save the people they love. But have bad habits of lying and shit because they don't think they are enough and also they can be selfish and a bit narcissist wanting what they want. I haven't really seen 2 3 dimensional lesbian characters. We've made progress because they aren't all dead and evil now. Now they fight their feelings they succumb they hide they come out they get together happily ever after leave the show or become shoe ins for others stories. Charity is a bad good girl she's wrong she knows she wants Vanessa and Mac is really a replacement cuz I can't have Vanessa. I think Vanessa is right to avoid Charity who seems to be doing all the wrong things again. Instead of being completely honest with Mac at this point let him go because you do not love him like that your using him because you already knew he loved you like that. Let him go. Be single for a bit enjoy your family and work on yourself perhaps you and Vanessa get back together but don't show your ex your in love with who left you for being selfish and using people and you still doing it. Now we have 3d lesbian bisexual female characters in lesbian relationships or in love with a woman. I appreciate that. Charity straight up told the audience I don't want him I want her and ima keep trying lol.
I got chills when charity said "I'm never giving up on us" I wish someone would say that to me
And she won't give up now she knows her Ness still loves her. Got a feeling this won't happen straight away. Charity will do all sorts to get her Ness back. But I do hope it is soon.🤞🤞🤞
Bosss move… has been dragging on for far too long… love these guys… Mackenzie needs to just quit 😀
I WISH THAT TOO.
@@alisonselway5740 yeah I really want her and charity to get back together at some point she’s a better person than Mack
@@joshcoyle3804 Me too. Emmerdale are gonna torture us by making us wait. Vanessa has a lot to forgive. This is gonna take some time.😢😢😢
YEP !!!! Here's that fire again ... That fire in her that she used to have a couple of years ago. It took only one simple move from V ( and good writing for once ) and it all set inside of her. Come on Charity do your thing. Rock our world girl. On a side note, I really like Rhona's mom. I think she'll play a part in it too.
"I will never give up on us!" Yessssssssssssss! Go get your girl, Charity! Make things right again.
That's right Charity. Don't give up. Vanessa didn't cave. You could see she was hurting.
The fact that Vanessa has to look away when she says "it was nothing" and the sadness on her face when she walks away! Breaks my heart!
“I’m not giving up on us”😭
That's the spirit! 💪💘 Go Charity!!! 😁
Can't wait for MacKenzi making a fool of himself with a grand romantic gesture just to get dumbed again... and then we are hopefully on the highway to Vanity again! 🤞
Now that's exactly what we wanted hear, "I'll never give up on us!"
I had Goosebumps when she said "I'll never give up on us" f**k i am so happy and excited come on charity go get your girl......... VANITY❤️
🥰😭❤️
Charity at the end 😭😭 I will never give up on us 😍😍 vanity here we come 🙏🏽🙌🏾
Vanessa "I've got so much I want to say" 🥺❤
Charity "Well say it then" 💔
@@HikariTsunami I hope to god this isn't gona be a rollercoaster 😭💔 but something tells me it will be 🙈
@@castlefanatic14 Do you think they'll ever walk down the isle???? 😅🙈
@@HikariTsunami I would absolutely adore that idea do a shortland street on it and have a happy ending for vanity 😍🙌🏾
@@castlefanatic14 Do you watch other Soaps or reality TV? I'm hooked on married at first sight AU😅
Vanessa "I've got so much I want to say" 🥺❤
Charity "Well say it then" 💔
🥰😭❤
Go charity you go and get Vanessa back the true love of your life
I see the fire in Charity's eyes like the first time when they played around and wine seller and like she said she will rock her world charity just has to keep pursuing Vanessa because Vanessa still loves her that is the level for life
Okay that was really intense but that is right Charity you fight for what you have with Vanessa. I don't understand that Vanessa is scared of getting hurt but they deserve to have a second chance and work this out together.
I so so want vanity back together. I actually feel i would enjoy Mac more as a character if he was removed from charity and Vanessa's situation and they focused on something else, maybe on developing his sibling relationship with moira more or something like that. Or having him involved in a another dodgy scheme with someone else, maybe cain or even possibly kim tate. He could be used in a much more interesting way. Now come on charity, get your woman back 🥰
The only problem I have with him is that his acting is so bad 🙈
Everything happened so fast in this storyline…. Great job from the screenwriters. Anyway, Charity can’t go on with Mak, now that she knows that Ness still loves her. It’s impossible ! First of all, i think she will break up with Mackenzie, and then will fight for her. Cant wait to see the next episodes omg 😍😍
My Vanity heart needs them back together.
Man just the tension and fire that Charity and Vanessa still have is just great and hopefully they do properly kiss and screw Mack he’s a scheming and overly possessive guy
Come on Charity get your Tiny Blonde Rocket Woman back. You could see Vanessa was trying not to cave in. She was holding back. Revisit to the cellar, that would do the trick.🤣🤣🤣
I felt that Charity should’ve proposed in the cellar in the first place.
@@snakehair2003 maybe this time
I do think it’s going to go back to the Cellar. They’ll get tricked back in there and things will happen. They won’t be able resist or escape their feelings.
@@PtoRicanDBLT I do hope so. Been waiting so long for this. I would love to see them back in the cellar. Vanity & Meena is the only storylines I enjoy at the moment. Bring it on.!
@@PtoRicanDBLT I do think it will be the cellar, they will get locked in there again. Have all night to talk & maybe squeeze in a snog.
Yes Yes! go charity
No matter what happens, Mack is going to get hurt and blame V. Charity has never really been deep with him and has always held him at arms length emotional wise waiting for V. V loves her so much still, she’s willing to walk away to not cause her more trouble or have someone as lowlife as Mack be hurt because of her. Mack didn’t give two shits in destroying Charity’s life when he first came to town. This just shows the caliber and difference between them. I’m hoping he realizes Charity is still in love with V, which he already knows but ignores, and let’s her go. Part of me wants Charity to corner Vanessa somewhere private and kiss her but I also don’t want Vanessa to blame/be angry at Charity or herself for helping Charity cheat. She’ll need to end it cleanly with Mack in order for them to really have a shot at being happy together and not have that guilt over their heads. I think the best thing will be for Mack to get out of the way, on his own, and let them be happy.
I think he already knows Charity doesn’t really love him,
He must have noticed how her face lights up every time she see’s Vanessa🥰😭❤️.
@@ellesmith4564 he deffo knows ,emmerdale has made that obvious ,even Charity knows he knows she has to rein Mack in everytime he sees Vanessa with Charity
Never liked him full stop when he first came in. And I still don't. Just wish he would bog off. Charity was never into him full stop, he was a distraction for her that's all.
Agree with you. Yet, Mac isn't gonna go away that easily. I think part of his obsession with Charity is the fact that she is a challenge to him. I'm not sure he loves her so much as he WANTS to possess her and control her, a bit like Cain did years ago. Charity needs to make it perfectly clear that she doesn't love him the way she loves Vanessa. and that there's no future for them, whatsoever. Then I think she needs to sit back, allow the dust to settle over the breakup with Mac and be patient with Vanessa... not push her. Allow Vanessa to come to her, just as she did the other day. Otherwise, Vanessa is just gonna dig her heels in and stubbornly push back. Vanessa has to come to the conclusion, on her own, that she needs, wants and loves Charity still. She needs to see Charity standing on her own and stalwart in the love she has for her.
@@lonelynbtween543 That is spot on 👍
Go on girl! Finally there’s that fire!!
V . "You really love her dont you"
M . "Yes i do but that doesn't seem to be enough"
V . "well it could be"
He's right it doesn't matter how much he loves Charity,it will never be enough to make her love him back ,there is no point in Charity staying with Mack now, its time to tell him how she really feels ,no matter who it hurts ,shes gave it a chance and she doesn't love him ,staying with him is just cruel
Charity at the end though " i will never give up on us" 😍
Yes! It’s obvious that charity only told Mack she loved him bc he was forcing her hand. It’s obvious she never Ed cared for him like she did Vanessa!
@@emmabutterworth4209100% , she stayed with him for ryan and because she doesn't like being alone, its obvious she never loved him
@@emmabutterworth4209 Vanessa "I've got so much I want to say" 🥺❤
Charity "Well say it then" 💔
No, Vanessa. It couldn’t be. It’s never been there and it never will be. And definitely not while the love of her life is right in front of her! Don’t fool yourself into losing her
Come on Vanessa go get your girl you know you want to,no way is it in the past not with that look on your face.Mckenzie do one please let Charity go and let vanity reign again .
If Charity is going to fight for Vanessa. Charity needs to be honest with Mac and let him go. Stop playing games! Let him go!
I think she'll do it now that she knows for sure that Vanessa still loves her. She was hedging her bets before. Not cool, but we're only human, after all😁
I love how jai turned and looked at mckenszie when he said to vanessa "you know charity better than anyone" its like come on m8 how do you have the balls 2 ask for NESS advice when it comes to charity.. Ness had 2 be patient with Charity for them 2 get to the meaningful parts of love etc. it didn't happen overnight. I kind of love how the whole village knows how much Ness meant and means 2 charity & only a fool would try and mess with that.. whether VANITY are together or not.
Yes Charity fight for your women
Way to go, Charity! Now tell the manipulating "boy toy", in no uncertain terms, (and leave Ryan's feelings out of it) where he truly stands, and has always stood, with you... once and for all. Clear the way for getting Vanessa back and go after the woman you truly love. She's a hardheaded, stubborn and seemingly fickle little vixen, that can't even be honest with herself about her own feelings, but... go get the love of your life, girlfriend! It's gonna be an uphill battle, but... you'll never forgive yourself if you don't at least try!! You're worth it, even if she... might not be... all that she seems to be.
Taking off on Charity's last comment, "I will never give up on us", I'd love to either hear one of the following songs in the background or better yet... see her sing/dance to one, after she extricates herself, in a gentle, heartfelt and totally honest way, from the "boy toy"!
"I Won't Give Up On Us" by Jason Mraz
"If Only You Knew" by Patti Labelle
"New Attitude" by Patti Labelle. (I think this would fit right in with the new 'power suits" she's been wearing, due to the pub ownership. And especially that... snazzy new belt! LOL. LOVE the look of that belt buckle!!)
"Fight Song" by Rachel Platten.
Know it'll never happen, but... it's a nice dream, yeah? One I felt like sharing...
If charity doesn't get back to vanessa I will be abset so mad they should be together don't give up charity ples God 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Anyone else think that Charity looked quite happy when she thought Vanessa had told Mackenzie about their moment😂❤️?
I thought that too🤣❤️,
She looked like she was actually relieved😳😂.
She loves Mackenzie but isn't involve with him 💔we've all had that where we love but we don't feel that soul searching connection
@@HikariTsunami I think she cares for him,
I don’t think she loves him I think it’s lust more than anything🤔.
@@bitchfacehopkins9094 I agree😒.
@@bitchfacehopkins9094 Vanessa "I've got so much I want to say" 🥺❤
Charity "Well say it then" 💔
🥰😭🙊
Just get together already!!!
Jai in here tryna stir up the drama 😂
Yeah, that pissed me off! He’s nothing but a snake!
At least he didn't lock charity in a storage container this time 🙄
Prepare for the angst 😍😍😍
“I don’t know if I’ve made things better or worse” Because she’s tried to help MacPrat get Charity back, thereby losing her herself? “I think you should give him his chance”. Charity can’t give him his chance when she doesn’t love him! She never has and she never will. And definitely not now when the love of her life is right in front of her every day!And it was Vanessa who told her before ( when she first came back) how unfair she was being stringing him along? 🤷♀️ Charity, dump him! Show Vanessa you’re free and waiting for her 🤞
« I will never give up on us » yessss!!! ❤️
Follow your own advice Vanessa come on
100% Agree !!
"I will never give up on us". That's the spirit, bravery of love, I saw Charity Dingle spark back. It's Vanessa that make feel excited, passionately, lively again. But she should fix it or break off with McKenzie before starting sorting out with Ness. She doesn't want to be part on making a cheating thing normal she feels being cheated upon and been hurt, she doesn't play a part of cheating game that night hurt other people.
Vanessa "I've got so much I want to say" 🥺❤
Charity "Well say it then" 💔
Give it time folks Vanity forecer
Don't give up Charity!! It's going to take some time I think.
guys,,problems,,who needs it,,somthing is gonna happen to one of them,,i have that feeling,,just to prove how much they love each other,,,thank u vanity,,have a great day,,;))
Vanessa it was Mackenzie’s fault because he set off the sprinkler that destroyed Liv and Vinny’s wedding reception they were supposed to be celebrating With Liv and vinny after they got Married and Mack ruined it
DUMP HIM CHARITY. He's young, he'll bounce back. 🤷♀️
I am talking to my self because of thes tow they still love echother . whay do they have to make us go crazy OMG I can't
I really hope she does. Never liked him. Gonna ask Meena to get rid of him before she leaves. Meena will help me out.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@alisonselway5740 There's a few more deadwood characters you could ask Meena to take out whilst she's at it🤭
@@katiecuttle7398 Can only think of Al.😁😁😁
@@alisonselway5740 Nate, Jai, Dan😂
Really??? Don’t give him any help
Hi, does anyone know what Vanessa did with her engagement ring? Thanks!
She posted it back to charity
@@laurawalsh1060 I bet Charity is still holding onto it
🙄🙄🙄 Vanessa. Go Charity!
Always feeling conflicted when someone says, I'm never giving up on us. Vause yes fighting for love is awesome and romantic and whatever. But in reality there needs to be an end at some point before it gets like psycho
Charity knows the boundaries with Vanessa and she respects Vanessa’s space. Mack doesn’t know boundaries with Charity and he’s overly possessive and jealous
Vanessa is the one to put Charity's life back together again. Not Mack Prat. Can't stand him, he gets on my nerves.
Well now! Why aren't soaps more often included in top scenes and reviews by folks. Anyway I love this they finally are making lesbian relationships multi dimensional. Not saying it's right or wrong but I love been listening to soaps since conception have me hearing dead ass. Mama watched days of our lives and another world on NBC while I was stewing in 86 lol. Came out as soon as I could move on my home the moment that like sand through the hour glass these or here are the days of our lives. Crawled to the TV plopped down and was stuck at 1. There are storyline I remember before youtube came out I remembered but they aired in 87 88 89 and I'm like shit I was 123 literally. How the fuck do I vividly remember Ernesto Stefano hope and hopes kidnapping by Stefanio. It's funny the brain and absolutely amazing because my brain keeps thinking hope disappeared but it aired as if she could've also died in show of course the character yet even before really understanding life and death and real and fake because I don't think my mom knew at the time I was as deeply as I was absorbing the show at 1 you know. She probably thought I just liked the sound and it had become comforting. While partially true I immediately recognized hearing the sound after birth hearing it 5 days a week for 9 months lol. They had vcr so mama recorded her fave soaps when she and dad had to work. Or she. Anyway there was always that one or 2 characters who could be villainous like catwoman archetypes bad and could be good. They have decent hearts like would put there life on the line to save the people they love. But have bad habits of lying and shit because they don't think they are enough and also they can be selfish and a bit narcissist wanting what they want. I haven't really seen 2 3 dimensional lesbian characters. We've made progress because they aren't all dead and evil now. Now they fight their feelings they succumb they hide they come out they get together happily ever after leave the show or become shoe ins for others stories. Charity is a bad good girl she's wrong she knows she wants Vanessa and Mac is really a replacement cuz I can't have Vanessa. I think Vanessa is right to avoid Charity who seems to be doing all the wrong things again. Instead of being completely honest with Mac at this point let him go because you do not love him like that your using him because you already knew he loved you like that. Let him go. Be single for a bit enjoy your family and work on yourself perhaps you and Vanessa get back together but don't show your ex your in love with who left you for being selfish and using people and you still doing it. Now we have 3d lesbian bisexual female characters in lesbian relationships or in love with a woman. I appreciate that. Charity straight up told the audience I don't want him I want her and ima keep trying lol.
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They’re gonna kill one of them. lol