Can a Magic Player beat a Yu-Gi-Oh! PRO? ft.
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- We all know Yu-Gi-Oh! is complicated, but is it more complicated than Magic the Gathering? Today, we put that to the test! Taylor is trying to teach Cardmarket's Magic the Gathering show host Carl enough about Yu-Gi-Oh! to beat World Champion Joshua Schmidt! With only 1 hour of training, Taylor introduces Carl the basics rules, as well as some advanced tips and tricks before he faces off against a pro all on his own! Does Taylor have what it takes to teach someone Yu-Gi-Oh! under such a strict time limit, or is Yu-Gi-Oh! a bit too much to handle for the average Magic player? Let’s find out together when Carl faces off against Yu-Gi-Oh! World Champion Joshua Schmidt!
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Josh not even subtly reminding Carl to use his fusion spell while in the main phase was soul crushing, I guess the crown WAS a big deal lol
Even in Carl’s first game ever Josh plays to win, I guess that’s why he’s the best 😂
-Taylor
I mean he didnt even drop a game when some kids dueled him for charity. He is just in the grind set all the time
@@Creepy___ to be fair, anyone who’s competitive enough to sign up to duel a world champion probably doesn’t want the game to be thrown. I would personally be pretty upset if I wanted to test my mettle at Josh-ua-oh! And Joshua himself just set a monster face down every turn and passwd
@@Cptcumbuatanut fair point and that’s why I didn’t mind him playing his cards somewhat optimally even when it felt unecessary like activating his countertrap, which is different imo from refraining to teach a new player how to play HIS cards optimally which Josh did in several occasions during that duel… until he decided to end it. I don’t want to make it sound like it’s a big deal btw the content was fun and they both had fun making it which is what matters :)
I would argue that he gave subtle hints do. Both in the spell and the banished monster case 😅
Ok now make Joshua play against Carl in a game of magic
Great idea! I actually think Josh would have an ok chance depending on the decks chosen since he has a great sense for the basics of card economy and risk/reward.
Josh would probably have a pretty good chance since the games have enough mechanical similarities that skills do partially transfer. Magic does have a lot of skill expression at a higher level but most of that depth isn't going to be as apparent in starter decks
yes please
Josh has played magic before
Carl is already getting the spirit of yugi, not reading the cards is the first step into truly believing in the heart of the cards, keep it up !
It’s so funny that you not only gave them two of the most complicated decks, but you gave josh the BETTER ONE
Not just the best but simpler one
I heavily disagree with the Dark World structure deck being hard to play. It's probably the easiest (decently powererful) structure deck to play outside of Traptrix. Albaz Strike is probably the better of the two, but only marginally so.
branded fusion at one really hurts this deck
@ josh is playing SCYTHE, i don’t think they’re following the banlist
bruh you must be smoking if saying DW better than Braindead
I am genuinely in awe of how personable everyone involved is and how entertaining this video is. Amazing work!
That guy is much happier than most Yu-Gi-Oh players
Carl hasn't aquaried the inmeadiate fear reflex response to "No monsters -> Battle phase" LOL
I thought it was gonna be evenly for some reason 😂
For the people who says that dark world is harder, magic have cards like Gamble and decks like bazaar of baghdad who entire game is around a card that makes you discard at random and getting effects from the graveyard. For a magic player, dark world is way more familiar than tracking effects and fusion summoning with albaz
Hollow one was a deck. It discarded both normally and at random.
@@randomguy6680 yep
Manaless dredge is just as weird as a yugioh deck and Nadu was arguably worse, magic definitely has those kinds of strange decks too. The difference is just that yugioh packages them as an archetype that's designed from the top down to be a well oiled machine, and that is every deck, whereas in magic bread and butter decks are still competitive with degenerate combo unless a new modern horizons set just dropped something sickening that will be banned within 3 months.
as someone who played both games idk if dark world is harder than like legacy dredge or smt but i can definetly say a high high skill ceiling non linear ygo combo deck is way harder to pilot than a high high skill ceiling magic deck(not that those are easy but yea)
"I dont want to talk about Artifact Scythe if possible" 😂
Honestly, same
Still watching the pre-video ad but, my guess is no
Yu-Gi-Oh already translates to "the king of players" so "the king of Yu-Gi-Oh" would be "the king of the king of players"
If you can beat Josh, I think “the king of the king of players” is a pretty accurate title!
-Taylor
It's another The Los Angeles Angels and Naan Bread situation
King of Games Not players
"I have to memorize all my deck?"
Yes, that's the hardest part of learning how a deck works. I always lose so many new players when i tell them that THIS is a very crucial part of playing yugioh
People liking their cards instead of being ambivalent to them is key to overcoming this imo
That's why it's important to build your own deck by coming to your own conclusions rather than trying to copy someone else's list and pretending to actually be a good player.
Completely missing the point, on account of new players not having the depth of card knowledge and ability to evaluate playability that experienced players have
As a magic player this is why I like Goat but have always bounced off modern yugioh the second i try to learn. In Goat you can pick up a new deck and play, learning as you go. Modern yugioh feels like stepping into an airplane cockpit with a 50 page manual worth of text to memorize about you and your opponent's decks to even play the game
@@soasertsus thats why i love the modern game though, you are rewaearded for your knowledge and understanding of whats going on, what tools you have and how you use them to play through the opponents tool.
This is so fun to watch! I made the switch from magic to ygo a little while ago, and I think this was a great choice for a duel. If Carl had branded it can feel like, oh I just casted branded fusion, but dark world gives more the play of, wow everything synergizes with everything else, and it's a really fun deck to play.
Plus, I love that this channel just does casual ygo, that's so rare, but it's the best!
Really fun video. I like that Carl is actually trying and remember some stuff, very energetic, fun to watch. He gives off the vibe of someone excited to actually play the game or the wonder of playing the game for the first time. Joshua was also great too.The commentary also helps the viewer understand what they cards do too. Would love to see more stuff like this or even the reverse, where a yugioh player tries to beat a pro magic player.
Josh is always great and his competitive insight is top notch, but Carl is one of the most charismatic content creators I've seen and cardmarket is lucky to have him on the magic channel. Great video!
20:01 josh was definitely thinking about main phase 3 lmao
Great video concept. Would love to see another one of these, maybe one against farfa, where carl is playing Swordsoul as that deck is pretty easy and linear
Would LOVE to see a rematch between a Magic deck and a YuGiOh deck, on either Cardmarket channel (or maybe even both), where the YuGiOh deck is not just a structure deck like last time. Probably the best comparison I've heard about YuGiOh's main format is that it is most similar to Magic's Vintage format, and I wonder how much of that comparison is true and if the decks would be a good match-up against each other, with some reasonable deck edits that take into account each other's games just so that there would be no dead cards if any.
Honestly I think the closest thing I've seen to a yugioh deck in magic is the recent (absolutely degenerate, possibly most broken of all time) Nadu deck. The card is so yugioh pilled it has "You can only use this effect TWICE per turn" written on it lol. There's actually a lot of graveyard/discard decks like Dark World in magic also. If you watch the Nadu vs Hogaak match on the cardmarket magic channel it's basically this yugioh matchup in magic lol
@Awsomeman328 last time they did, as long as the magic deck goes first all they need it to mulligan for chalice of the void, pay nothing and they win. Not sure if they win going second
@@ZackSparks that only works if you wanna rule all yugioh cards being played as casting regardless of their card type and considering how in yugioh the fundamental difference between monsters and spells/traps at their base thats just asking for a riot, its like trying to make basketball and soccer players play against each other with each respective game's player playing their sport while they got a hold of the ball but applying soccer's handball rule to the overall game so that basketball players fundamentally cannot play
@YukiFubuki. I mention it because that's the ruling they applied in the past. If they did it that way before I don't see why they wouldn't do the same in a new video
@ yeh i saw the video and i know thats how they played it but there were also a lot of backlash in the comments from yugioh players and even some mtg players too wondering if thats really how it should work
one can even make the assume that such a ruling even only managed to fly is specifically because it was on the mtg channel so an argument can be made that they're simply pandering to the mtg players but this is the yugioh channel though so i can guarantee you that the vast majority will not let that fly
Giving a new player danger dark world is literally a criminal offense 💀
as someone that recently (re)started on master duels, it's genuinely amazing to see Carl fumble around more than i do
I am loving watching Carl discover the combo potential and synergies in yugioh. It's like watching a child in a candy store
"I don't want to talk about Artifact Scythe" - Josh
"I want to talk about it a lot!" - Carl
I thought there was supposed to be a Magic player in this vid; that's just a conversation between YGO players XD
Well now we want to see Carl's training session
25:54 We finally have the perfect Josh soundbite. Play it the next time he gets handlooped.
“And when may you do that ?”
“When I think it’s pretty cool” 😂😂
I love seeing Carl running for the props Carl doing Carl things
Okay now we need Thoralf on playing some hella complicated deck.
I think its hilarious he keeps saying king of Yu-Gi-Oh when king of Games is an actual term in Yu-Gi-Oh. 😅 Great video and good duel.
This was fun to watch
Thank you always for the great videos
14:53 In mtg, "Birthing Pod" combos are basically link climbing so 1h may be enough.
Now I need to alt art of pod with the Link border
11:35 is truly the Branded experience in a nutshell. They always, always have it.
This was a good match. If Carl keeps at it, he has the talent to become a really good Yu-Gi-Oh! player.
Carl did well considering the conditions
Maybe Jo-Shu-Oh, but yeah! I'd play that!
We need to have a training arc for Carl learning yugioh
"I have one hour to teach a noob to play yugioh" Yeah okay we can stop there
Pachycephalo Go!
was a nice game. Back in my days 2012 i played also dark world. I still have the deck
bo1 for Josh's sanity I guess 😂 gg, you did surprisingly well at not breaking the rules very often
“I love Yugioh, it’s so polite.”
Oh honey. Oh sweet child. No….no it’s not. That’s just Joshua 😂
I didn't look to see which Cardmarket this was on so i assumed the YuGiOh pro would be shown how to play MTG and it would be that way around.
19:52 "You know you can't set monsters right?"
You can if they're Infernity monsters! Or so I've been told by a certain malebranche
What a wholesome experience!
I think the fire king or new blue eyes structures would be great next time
carl likes the puns on dark world's monster card names like reign-beaux being rainbow but does he realize all the dark world monster's names are based off of colors and color adjacent words that adorn parts of their body too
like of all the dark world cards shown in this duel
genta = magenta (tattered scarf ends)
ceruli = cerulean (cloak)
snoww - snow (clothes, body and hair)
broww = brown (right arm, wooden bow, quiver and fur shoulder pads)
reign-beaux = rainbow (entire body has an opal or rainbow sheen to it)
grapha = graphite (also entire body)
Carl is such a delight.
Couldn't we had given Carl Fiendsmith Ryzeal ?
Sadly, I didn’t have 12 hours to teach him…
-Taylor
@CardmarketYGO Next time you might want to prep a slideshow as well as a dossier of flowcharts. Sure, reading might not be any of our strong suits as cardgame players, but it might work as intimidation tactics
JUST PLAY STUN 😂
What a great video ❤ carl you did great and josh thanks for being 😂
Now this brings back my interest a bit. And he uses Dark World. Which is not really good match to a Pro player. Like let's say letting a Lv.1 player use a Lv.50 equipments against a Lv.80 player with a matching equipment.
CARL PLAYING DARK WORLD, LET'S GOOOOOOO
Yes DARK World Deck, i Love it 😄🥰👍
Magic :
Turn one play a land
Yu-Gi-Oh:
Turn one I summon this monster and then discard this monster and the play this spell and the discard it to play again and then fusion and de fusión and then 4 trap cards and cook a sandwich, check in in a hotel, write the last book if game of thrones and paint a frame
"I see you've heard of yugioh before" 😭
So is Josh gonna play a game of Magic becaus that would be cool to see
@ThetrueKidGoku it would prolly be one of the Yugioh cardmarker guys vs Andrea Mengucci since he is a magic champ like Josh
7:15 omg giveing him DARK WORLD as his first deck is sooooo baaddd HAVE YOU NOT TRYED TO READ THE PSCT ON SNOWW?! This deck has very bad PSCT on its older cards. Rip. you killed this man.
In another comment someone explained that there's a few magic decks that are like darkworld so it might of actually been easier to understand then someone who was just new to card games entirely.
@@prodmoira Okkk.. butt.. HAVE YOU READ SNOWW? or, t\ even TRYED to read Snoww?
You absolutely can use the Extra Monster zone with the DW structure? They have a Fusion boss monster.
We gotta get Jo-Shu-Oh! In 2025
Look, I totally understand wanting to win but.... come on josh, hold back a BIT to at least give him a chance
he did, by playing pot of extravagance in Branded 😂
I think if carl played optimally, he actually could have beat josh. Obviously he didn't, but Josh's deck was so bad and bricky that carl did stand a chance.
Why was Carl getting lost on rules that work the same as magic? Cards that don't target you choose on resolution, resolve full effect of a card before going to your next one, those work the same in both games.
Yugioh archetypes, it’s all about quotation marks (except frog the jam)
Whoever chose to give Carl a Dark World deck (clearly the harder of the two) should be locked up XD
No Carl is the real king he lost because he didn’t read, the true king
My guys you have to get more YuGiOh content creators. I love Josh and all, but it's making it seem like the community's smaller than it is. A variety of guests could also allow you to focus on more aspects of the game.
They recorded a ton of videos in a single day and are now releasing them over time. Farfa has said in the latest podcast episode he'll be filming a domain video with cardmarket as well.
It's probably because cardmarket is in Germany and it's easy to invite someone who lives relatively close by. At least I think cardmarket is in Germany, but I could be wrong.
i feel like making this a "i forced a yugioh noob to go against a pro" and framing it as carl loosing obviously would have worked way better. this is just... so obviously fake tension
how to beat Josh if I were Carl : summon inspector boarder set 4 pass😂😂😂
You likely want to arksk them to cross promote on their Community tab like
Josh cant be the best. That title belongs to Jesse Kotton.
15:52 My washed world champ doesn't know he can activate Mirrorjade's effect on summon to disallow Carl's trap activation 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮throwing!!!
Someone tell Carl that we call it "King of Games" not "King of Yugioh" !
considering yugioh itself means king of games he would just be calling himself king of king of games
@@YukiFubuki. wait that's kind of metal
You gave the noob dark world
Of course he gonna loose
I was going to say, they gave the harder deck to the new player
Discarding cards for value is way more easy to understand for a magic player than fusion summoning with albaz and tracking end phase effects
@@rtwoxd1355 I think, more than the difficulty level of the deck, Branded is just so much better than Dark World in so many ways
yeah, I think the problem is not the dark world, it's just branded clearly a better deck.
The answer is yes especially if the noob has a crowbar
Wouldn't it have made more sense to use the two player starter deck? On the Magic channel you used a 10 year old two player starter deck which is as low power as you can get. Plus it would have been more cost effective than using 6 still sort of relevant structure decks from the inventory.
At the very least I guess it makes the new player feel more powerful using a semi-constructed deck.
Side note, since you have the Magic guys on so often have you considered a weekly podcast with one guy from each channel to talk card game news?
Try it again but with a Pro magic player next time
The stakes are too low. The loser should be sent to the Shadow Realm.
Might have been better if Josh had been the dark world player
Branded also might have just confused the hell outta Carl so idk
I wonder if Carl knows that technically Josh played a banned card (it was sent to the graveyard with Branded Fusion and made zero difference in the game)
They just used 3 of the structure decks so whatever was in there was allowed.
Should have given josh a cyberse deck to lower his power level
Why did u give the new player dark world
Make them do it in magic, but the magic player plays a weak deck, and the yuguoh player plays a strong but very difficult deck, something like a neobrand or some other crazy combo deck.
Wich deck would you sugest me to play in masterduell for climbing
They are literally handing out branded decks right now, add some staples you can probably reach diamond easily enough.
easiest deck like kashtrila or fiendsmith
@cardmarket did Carl enjoy playing? Would he play again?
How many cards in Yugioh mentions that albaz guy? Feels to me (a guy with almost 0 knowledge of this game) like the devs decided to just print a deck with insane synergies instead of letting the players figure something out for themselves ^^
in Yugioh, decks can get too crazy if they weren't contained within an archetype when designed, still, players find ways to abuse by mixing cards and konami had to ban them.
There are over 100 of sub-groups like this in Yu-Gi-Oh! Some are only a couple cards in size, while some can have over 30-40 cards! Some needs to be played pure, some locked you out of other types/attributes (imagine colors in magic), some doesn’t lock you at all, and some are so generic that people play them in other decks instead (looking at you Fiendsmiths)
So yes, while this does limit deck building creativity, many of these archetypes can be played together in an interesting way. Not to mention that they determine which staples you’ll be putting in your deck too!
I guess you could say that Yu-Gi-Oh! Is less constructed but a pre-constructed half-decks that you need to combine yourself and figure out which combo is good.
That's just how archetypes work in Yugioh. Once you understand the combo lines your deck does, it kinda plays itself.
Probably like close to a 100 between directly and indirectly mentions to albaz or branded.
But archetypes are like that and that's how most decks are built in Yugioh. You take a gimmick/mechanic and essentially give it some amount of "tribal" synergy. Some "tribes" are better than others, though.
The purpose of said tribalism is to be consistent and yes, to a degree making relatively easy to understand. However, you need to understand each specific "tribalism" for each deck. So the skill floor is usually quite high, but the ceiling doesn't go a lot higher unless you are cooking something unexpected.
Not that many. In yugioh most of the time decks are based around archetypes which are like self contained card pools that has synergy within itself. There are cases where a monster type like plant zombie warrior dragon or dinosaur instead of focusing on an archetype focus on synergies within those monster types. Which is closer to what you're wanting. There are also cases where different archetypes have synergy and we see an example in this video. Dark worlds want to be discarded but don't always have a way to do that. That's where the danger monsters come in because they get a random card discarded which gets you an effect from the dark world sent as well as an effect from the danger if it wasn't randomly selected. That was a case of players seeing synergies for themselves and it happens decently often.
A link deck?
Try some Sky Strikers. :)
Why didnt yall teach the new guy pendulums? Theyre great entry level decks. Especially D/D.
Cool concept though maybe a bit flawed as I do think most people would struggle to beat Joshua Schmidt, let alone someone who just learnt how to play the game.
Why did you guys Give him one of the hardest decks 😂there are way more accessible decks tbh but He did good
1 hour to teach him ygo? And you give josh arguably the better structure deck in the branded one (i think the branded structure is MUCH better)? Hell no. Carl is getting annihilated. You should've given josh a mediocre structure deck like charmers or maybe shaddoll if you really wanted to give him a fusion based deck.
edit: post watching the whole duel. Man Carl performed much better than I had expected
go Carl!!!!
If your a MTG combo player, yugioh combos are easy,it's just boring when a deck stops a player from playing...
Give him a few weeks or month
The pro is wrong about something, cannot be activated in respond is not the same as cannot have its activation negated, and brandon lost make. Because it cannot have it activation negated you can still respond with a card that negated the activation it just will not negated the activation. In yugioh master duel because I was against a bot that that ko itself and because he could not ko itself in one turn, and because I wanted the reward for activating trap just in-case I just get other self ko bots, so I activated solemn judgment against my own spell card that cannot have its activation negated. And that happen in yugioh master duel.
Why not give Karl branded fusion? he just needed to activated branded fusion
No its not branded is not a mechanic magic has but dark world does
@@ONIGIRIKINGU but mirrorjade turbo is way easier then 20 card darkworld combo
@@ivesantonio626 i feel its the opposite to me
@ivesantonio626 teaching a magic player a discard deck is a lot more understandable than trying to get them to understand fusion combos. There is no actual parallel for extra deck in MTG
i am a yugioh player and even i dont know how to play dark world😅
You gave him scythe?
It came in his structure deck
@ I know it does still not a card I would give him lol.
Fiendschmidt
probably no
i feel like this should have be done with GOAT format since honestly thats the most akin to magic yugioh can get where its just the resource/tempo battle
no such thing as a legit pro yugioh anything because apparently only the shop keepers kid can pull off top decking exodia without cheating and top tier players can get away with rule breaking so yeah only local favorites and card shop owners kids are going to win tournaments like ever
this is just like the copy pasta Farfa did a couple weeks a go