Damn dude, both amps sound phenomenal (leaning towards the Badlander though) but what really steals the show is the melodic death mix! Hell to the yes brother 🤘🤘
The Bogner has more treble, less low end based on this recording. The Mesa Badlander is more focused in the mids and controlled. Stereo rig with these 2 amps would be Killer!
They're dialled so differently that its hard to gauge much other than they're both capable of cool tones. Bogner is a bit too mid heavy to me, and the Badlander is WAY too scooped sounding here for my taste. Cool video none the less and very cool to hear these rad amps side by side!
Uber is really versatile. Mids are probably due to settings. Depending on how you set up the amp it can be very mid-forward or scooped. Something as simple as changing the presence can change the voicing of the amp.
I've been playing the Badlander since it came out, and have been holding off on buying more amps since then, but damn this comparisons makes me lean towards the Uber Ultra. Just has more bite and presence in the full mix. I wonder if the Badlander could've been dialed in a bit closer, with bold setting, maybe a bit more presence. Also, I don't hear that flubby low-end the old Ubers had at all.
Honestly, both amps can get wildly different sounds than what I displayed here. The Uber more-so, I think. For a more in depth review w/knob twisting check out my other Uber Ultra videos, it might help to hear the array of sounds you can get. I think both amps can be dialed in similarly, but to me their voicings will always set them apart. They are still different enough to warrant spots in my collection. They're definitely both permanent residents!
Came in today. These things are weapons grade amplifiers man! I also picked up a badlander 100w while I was waiting. Something to be had playing real amps that isn't in the digital stuff. I'm dying the run my fireball with the Uber now 😁
I picked up the badlander couple months ago. Im still loving it everytime I turn it on. Hugely matters what cab im running it into. Only negative is id like to have more gain on tap than not enough. It has plenty but i max it. Very articulate and the mids growl like crazy. Bogner is an amazing high gain head. Smokes the mesa in terms of aggression, gain and attack. Love to have both but happy with decision.
Dude I know what you mean about the amount of gain on tap for the Badlander. I don't mind it as much, since a boost can help do some of the heavy lifting...but THE remedy is getting the legendary tones Mr. Scary mod. Gives you another gain stage while keeping all the articulation of not having a boost compress your signal. It's amazing fr. If you can swing the coin, I highly recommend it. I'm planning on doing a before/after video of it with my Badlander soon...ish lol (whenever I can get to it)
@@sir.shreddington I've seen Kyle's video of it but I was on my phone at the time. Need to play thru my car or stereo to really hear the effect. I did look at the price lol its chump change compared to retail of both those amps. But with my actives I feel I have enough gain but running my lundgren m6 passives I feel could use that extra oomph.
@@AllMetalReview Yeah he did a great job, as usual, on that one. Actually, his vid is what got me to email Dave and ask if it would work with the Badlander!
I guess it depends on your flavor. Never played a Helios, and I dig the stealth, but I like palate that the Über offers. Although, I can honestly say that I prefer the Über over other specific high end gear that is typically being sold at $2k+ over what the Über costs. It’s price point is solid
Both amps have very effective TMB controls that heavily influence the sound of these amps, and it sounds like you chose to scoop the mids of the Mesa and crank the mids on the Bogner. The amps here are dialed to sound so different from each other that it's kind of impossible to tell how they are voiced relative to each other.
I actually had the mids pushed a bit on Mesa, close to 1-2 oclock if I’m remembering right. Generally speaking I was going for a cool sound from both amps, not necessarily trying to make them sound like each other. Thanks for listening!
So supposedly the 100 watt Badlanders have undergone a transformer upgrade on the newest iterations. Is this a newer 100 watter or have you had it a bit?
I heard about that somewhere. Do you know how the newer transformer is supposed to affect the sound of the new badlander? I got this a couple months after release, so this one is an OG.
Me too, it’s such a killer amp. My favorite recto by far…AND it works with the legendary tones hot mod. I want to do a video showcasing what it sounds like with my Mr. scary mod. Hopefully soon!
@@sir.shreddington now that's interesting. Can you target a specific channel for that based on where you install the mod? I run the crunch channel and then hit it with a pedal up front but I would be down if I could run it dual channel but have channel 2 use the hot mod.
@CaViTaTioNguitars it goes in the V2 preamp slot if I remember correctly off hand, so it affects the entire amp. It does something really interesting though, it feels like it gives you more head room. You can dial back the gain on the amp and push the mod a bit harder to give you more distortion but retain articulation. I also just found out that I can also use it on my Friedman SS100 so another video of that amp needs to be done too!
Fantastic playing in this demo. I love your sound! Great comparison... not sure I could pick one over the other!
Thanks Keith! Definitely more of a both/and situation rather than a either/or one 😁
Damn dude, both amps sound phenomenal (leaning towards the Badlander though) but what really steals the show is the melodic death mix! Hell to the yes brother 🤘🤘
Haha thanks so much man.🤘🏼 I have like 10+ songs like this that I need to just finish and record
Looking forward to hearing them one day! :D@@sir.shreddington
Bogner. Badlander has some odd stuff going on in the high end. Bogner is just smooth and fits right in.
The Uber is seriously amazing
agreed
The Bogner has more treble, less low end based on this recording. The Mesa Badlander is more focused in the mids and controlled. Stereo rig with these 2 amps would be Killer!
Yeah dude, both amps can be dialed in to compliment the other really well!
Still prefer the badlander, could be this video, or the riffs.
I'd say night and day describe the differences. Both awesome and unique flavor profiles. This requires you have both! 😁
I agree!! 💪🏼🍻
Im a Boogie fan all the way, that Bogner CRUSHED it!!! The Bogner FEELS better in person too..
When it comes to nasty tones the Über is always a solid choice!
They're dialled so differently that its hard to gauge much other than they're both capable of cool tones. Bogner is a bit too mid heavy to me, and the Badlander is WAY too scooped sounding here for my taste. Cool video none the less and very cool to hear these rad amps side by side!
To each their own, but thanks for giving it a listen!
Uber is really versatile. Mids are probably due to settings. Depending on how you set up the amp it can be very mid-forward or scooped. Something as simple as changing the presence can change the voicing of the amp.
Super awesome riffs
Thanks dude!!
Nice work!
Thanks Dr, appreciate it! 🙏🏼
I've been playing the Badlander since it came out, and have been holding off on buying more amps since then, but damn this comparisons makes me lean towards the Uber Ultra. Just has more bite and presence in the full mix. I wonder if the Badlander could've been dialed in a bit closer, with bold setting, maybe a bit more presence. Also, I don't hear that flubby low-end the old Ubers had at all.
Honestly, both amps can get wildly different sounds than what I displayed here. The Uber more-so, I think. For a more in depth review w/knob twisting check out my other Uber Ultra videos, it might help to hear the array of sounds you can get.
I think both amps can be dialed in similarly, but to me their voicings will always set them apart. They are still different enough to warrant spots in my collection. They're definitely both permanent residents!
Been watching this video for about 2 weeks now and just pulled the trigger on the uberschall 😁🤘
Noiiice dude! Which version did you get? You're going to love it.
@@sir.shreddington The mk2 el34
@@roscoe6937 Good choice, my man. KT88s are interchangeable with that version too.
@sir.shreddington Yea I'm pretty excited about that too. Guys at The Axe Palace take good care of me
Came in today. These things are weapons grade amplifiers man! I also picked up a badlander 100w while I was waiting. Something to be had playing real amps that isn't in the digital stuff. I'm dying the run my fireball with the Uber now 😁
I was tossing up between these two amps. I went with the Uber and i am very happy i did. The mesa sounds thin compared
Good choice! If I had to sell one, I’d sell the Mesa. I still really like the Mesa though
@@sir.shreddington no doubt the mesa is good still, I have heard many with them. I just love the Bogner versatility and bite
I picked up the badlander couple months ago. Im still loving it everytime I turn it on. Hugely matters what cab im running it into. Only negative is id like to have more gain on tap than not enough. It has plenty but i max it. Very articulate and the mids growl like crazy. Bogner is an amazing high gain head. Smokes the mesa in terms of aggression, gain and attack. Love to have both but happy with decision.
Dude I know what you mean about the amount of gain on tap for the Badlander. I don't mind it as much, since a boost can help do some of the heavy lifting...but THE remedy is getting the legendary tones Mr. Scary mod. Gives you another gain stage while keeping all the articulation of not having a boost compress your signal. It's amazing fr. If you can swing the coin, I highly recommend it. I'm planning on doing a before/after video of it with my Badlander soon...ish lol (whenever I can get to it)
@@sir.shreddington I've seen Kyle's video of it but I was on my phone at the time. Need to play thru my car or stereo to really hear the effect. I did look at the price lol its chump change compared to retail of both those amps. But with my actives I feel I have enough gain but running my lundgren m6 passives I feel could use that extra oomph.
@@AllMetalReview Yeah he did a great job, as usual, on that one. Actually, his vid is what got me to email Dave and ask if it would work with the Badlander!
@@sir.shreddingtonso it's been awhile. Think you could pick one or the other yet?
@@AllMetalReview I can't! I need both in my life...
Im going with the Badlander on this one. Bogner sounded a bit nasal and honky. Badlander sounded like a Marshall doing 90s Florida Death Metal.
Right on! 90s Florida Death Metal is a good sound to have!
Im suprised the badlander sounded much fuller and meaner to me. BRB going to go buy one.
Good choice! I personally like the mod with the bass switch off on this amp, but you really can’t go wrong with either setting
luv the jam!!!!!
Thanks dude!
Great demo! The Bogner sounds absolutely crushing
Thanks!! Dude it's insane, you CAN NOT dial in a bad sound on the Über
Is it worth the price? I play mainly thrash/technical death. But for one of these I can get a Bogner Helios and a 5150 III stealth.
I guess it depends on your flavor. Never played a Helios, and I dig the stealth, but I like palate that the Über offers.
Although, I can honestly say that I prefer the Über over other specific high end gear that is typically being sold at $2k+ over what the Über costs. It’s price point is solid
Have both. The Uber ultra slaughters it
The Uber was life changing for me. What a fantastic amp
Bogner sounds a lot brighter and mid-heavy. Seems to cut through the mix really well. What settings did you have on it?
I’m pretty sure it was on Hair/Ultra/Tight/Doom. If I’m remembering right
Both amps have very effective TMB controls that heavily influence the sound of these amps, and it sounds like you chose to scoop the mids of the Mesa and crank the mids on the Bogner.
The amps here are dialed to sound so different from each other that it's kind of impossible to tell how they are voiced relative to each other.
I actually had the mids pushed a bit on Mesa, close to 1-2 oclock if I’m remembering right. Generally speaking I was going for a cool sound from both amps, not necessarily trying to make them sound like each other. Thanks for listening!
Man that's a tough one but I've got to go with the Uber. It's just got more growl and punch than the Badlander.
It’s a bruiser for sure!
So supposedly the 100 watt Badlanders have undergone a transformer upgrade on the newest iterations. Is this a newer 100 watter or have you had it a bit?
I heard about that somewhere. Do you know how the newer transformer is supposed to affect the sound of the new badlander? I got this a couple months after release, so this one is an OG.
@@sir.shreddington forums here lately. No corroboration/confirmation though. I have the 50 watter and I love it.
Me too, it’s such a killer amp. My favorite recto by far…AND it works with the legendary tones hot mod. I want to do a video showcasing what it sounds like with my Mr. scary mod. Hopefully soon!
@@sir.shreddington now that's interesting. Can you target a specific channel for that based on where you install the mod? I run the crunch channel and then hit it with a pedal up front but I would be down if I could run it dual channel but have channel 2 use the hot mod.
@CaViTaTioNguitars it goes in the V2 preamp slot if I remember correctly off hand, so it affects the entire amp. It does something really interesting though, it feels like it gives you more head room. You can dial back the gain on the amp and push the mod a bit harder to give you more distortion but retain articulation. I also just found out that I can also use it on my Friedman SS100 so another video of that amp needs to be done too!
Can you do one without the mesa boosted?
I could make that happen! I'm going to have to record a new song first. I'm tired of using this one...
Badlander no slouch!!
Such a good amp, dude. That throaty, mid-range, aunch is one of my favorite guitar sounds
El34 in the Bogner?
Yeah, this is the el34 version
I’m surprised but man the Bogner crushed the Mesa.
The Uber is amazing!
Bogner all day.
Dude, it rips.
Badlander..what so hard about that?
Good choice!
In fairness you cant go wrong here@@sir.shreddington
easily the Bogner for me. Way fuller
Good choice, I seriously love this amp
bad!
I seriously love that amp!
BOGNER…..
🤙🤙
Not even a contest. Uber is light years better than the Badlander. I even prefer older Dual Recs to the Badlander.
Have you tried the Ultra yet? It’s such an incredible amp. It’s never leaving my collection.
Rendered useless the second you use od pedal. Real men don't need the pedals. Dafuq.
Real men don't use picks, brah
@@sir.shreddington no, that's real bassists actually🫴🫳🤏✌️🤌