Don't blame the pandemic, Hasbro's distribution has been awful for years, back in the prime wars days I only saw combiner wars, wave 1 of titans return, and potp beachcomber, which was the last generations toy I ever saw in shelves
My view on this whole issue is a bit biased. Seeing how recently I've gotten into Transformers collecting, I'm a bit glad that they're releasing G1 rehashes, so I can build up my army of regular characters before expanding outward, however I can see why long-time collectors are a bit tired of it.
Same here. I started collecting during the Unicron Trilogy while also watching the 86 movie on dvd. I’m very happy to finally have figures that sufficiently satisfy that G1 itch (and recently Beast Wars, after watching that), but I do hope they start to work into more than just G1. Though I’m still waiting for a Kingdom Silverbolt, since they made Blackarachnia.
Yeah same. I recently got back into collecting with siege and have been able to get some characters I've never had in my collection! Only problem has been damn exclusives! Still trying to get Ratchet!
@@optiTHOMAS For me the problem was his mold mate: Ironhide (and Prowl). Exclusives should be limited to stuff like Golden Lagoon and Shattered Glass figures.
@@MisterBurgerBeachball oh yeah definitely. For iron hide and Ratchet my orders were canceled for them too! I agree! I eventually got Iron and prowl miraculously, but still don't have a ratchet. More obscure characters and references should be exclusive, not some of the main cast! It makes trying to get these figures so hard!
Exactly! My area misses out on so many figures. If not for ebay and Amazon, I wouldn't be able to get hardly any. Well, there are the pegwarmers that sit for months until they mysteriously disappear to Big Lots or some other outlet dump.
I agree with many of your points, especially with the one about distribution. For instance in my 3 nearest toy shops, in the city i live, there are only cyberverse toys or even THERE ARE NO transformers toys at all.
I really want Unicron Trilogy. Nothing like bay formers where literally no characters look anything like themselves, but just something fresh. Like the Unicron Trilogy.
Yes, the Cybertron figures are unique in terms of designs, have lots of gimmicks, are large, screen accurate, and they are made of 'sterner stuff' than Masterpiece figures.
To reiterate a post I read off tfw2005, they are selling to the retailer, much in the same way they would sell hammers. The shelves are barren, and there’s like one or two less desirable figures on the shelf, they won’t restock until they’re gone and they need more ‘hammers’. It sucks, but that’s how their distribution model is at the moment.
I'm defiantly one of the many people who will disagree with you on the price yes he is about the size of a deluxe but he does come with more accessories , articulation , detail and a better paint job than about 90 percent of my deluxes that I own that makes the price worth it and I'm also no expecting the beast mode to be great because hasbro has never been able to make great organic beast modes within the main generations [does anyone remember the dinobot and cheetor from the universe line ?] but beast megatron is by far is the best mode design out of beast war character we have gotten so far but that is myopinnion just like this video is your opinion and before anyone says that I'm a hasbro lapdog , I do agree with the QC and distribution issues that have been going on for the past those are defiantly not acceptable
Never saw any ER wave 2 or 3, except for an Arcee I found at Aldi's, but Kingdom distribution has been a lot better, at least in my area, especially at my local target
Primal is the same amount of plastic as earthrise starscream and the 2 voyager versions of ER prime. 130 grams of plastic. Like or dislike whatever you want but factually there's not much to argue against primals voyager status. There's no arguing that he's short but there's many elements of these toys that can't be shown with your eyes alone and plastic use is one of the few we as consumers can see. Also understand that many of these issues are more about Hasbro as a whole which leaves transformers in submission to their other toylines
I agree with you, Im getting tired of them rehashing g1 every time and it's honestly getting boring and repetitive, and the quality control is just redicous, my Optimus primals are can't go side to side because it's to stiff, and that netflicks bee that took me months to track and find in stores already has 3 cracks in the windshield, speaking of that I had how they are making vital parts translucent plastic like the prowl mold knee, and runabout and runamucks back packs, and the distribution sucked everything was an hard to find exclusive or never made it to stores, because hasbro waited for so long to release wave 2 that they blurted both wave 2 and 3 around the same time just to push kingdom, my stores skipped wave 2 and went to wave 3 and that was gone within 2 days, with the beast wars stuff I'm hoping this will be the push to show hasbro g1 isn't the only thing fans want, but knowing them after kingdom their gonna resort back to g1 to play it safe, anyone remember animated? An show that flipped the property on it's head? In creative and interesting ways, well that doesn't align with hasbro's g1 so let's forget to acknowledge it's existence but lets mention it's tf prime aniversity by releasing an two pack
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer I ment in the sence where hasbro forgets it has other transformers franchise then g1 since they constantly pander to the geewunners
@@soundshock9357 exactly HALF what about the other half? The other half who never grew up with g1 Plus I never said for them to stop making g1 just to give us more options not all of us grew up with g1 and will sink loads of money into new figures of charaters from these shows, lugnut hasn't gotten an figure since rts and is hella expensive Slipstream only got 2 good figures and they were exculsives while what we got for the mainline was some crappy kid toys, not to mention, it's just sad hasbros just panders so much to one half and bearly pays attention to the other, sure their doing beast wars now but I bet as soon as kingdom ends guess what, back to crowd pleasing boring g1
This guy finally showed up in the mail today, and it's not bad at all compared to some. In the video he keeps calling it a Deluxe class, but the Kingdom version is a Voyager class. Also, not sure about shipping to wherever, but Bigbadtoystore usually has this one for regular price. $30 or w/e it was.
Same here, pricing and size put me completely out of the Hasbro mainline, I get inflation but for the size, accessories and quality $30 is outrageous nevermind whatever $50 and $100 plus for galvatron and rodimus there going charge! Those are my 2 favorite characters along with the entirety of beast wars and machines... yes machines, and I'm not paying anywhere near $200 for 2 old school size voyagers I don't care how big rodimus's trailer is, potp prime and rodimus was $50 and you got technically 2 figures each!... screw Hasbro with this shit!
dude it has a high enough parts count to look extremely accurate and have individual finger movement, rodimus is filling that price point for his engineering not his size
Hasbro should've made SIEGE and Kingdom as independent sublines, skip Earthrise, keep Studio Series, and give Cyberverse a dedicated Generations line instead of those shoddy Fisher-Price toys.
Its almost the same over here in Germany ,,, especially with Transformers/Hasbro and Mattel . Seems like our stores only get the leftovers and shelf warmers 6 to 7 months after their official release
Hmm I am in Canada too and I got Prime, Dinobot, Airazor, Megatron, Blackarachnia, Netflix cheetor passed on rat trap, awaiting for Rynox and Scorponock...yes I have huffer and Inferno kingdom WFC too
Would've been alot cooler if a dark and gritty anime reboot of Beast Wars based on my favorite manga Berserk was made, with Dinobot as the protagonist going insane by shedding robot blood of a 100 Predacon army.
@@Faiqal_x1103 Thanks, I also even thought about making myself an Autobot character who's a black and grey-painted pick-up truck with red eyes but who's also a swordsman like Guts too lol.
I'm getting annoyed at the same characters getting released over and over again as well. But the problem is is that people keep buying them over and over again. If people stopped buying Prime or Starscream or any of the other half dozen characters they release in every wave then Hasbro will stop doing the same characters over and over again and hopefully try to make a bit more variety. I'm not one to get down on a fandom, especially one I'm a part of, but one of the biggest annoyances I have with the Transformers fandom (and this is a problem with other fandoms I'm a part of as well) is that there are a huge (or at least a hugely vocal) group that keeps on bitching and moaning about the constant inclusion of certain characters again and again but still turn around to buy those same rereleases time and again. I wish they would just stop. And I'm not saying that that's what your doing with this video. Sorry if that sounded like I was with you. And plus, with all the times they keep on releasing a character time and time again the specialness of having that character gets lost. I remember the days when having an Optimus prime figure or a Starscream figure or whatever. Now it's just a dime a dozen sometimes with some characters.
I agree, like in my area, I never saw wave 2 or 3 of earthrise, only arcee and that's it, and only a little of some of the waves of siege, I had to get many of them from scalpers and stuff
Its nice getting a review from a fan, who is not a fan boy. Some channels get far too defensive when it comes to calling Hasbro out, so hearing something other than praise is a much needed change. Pretty much everything you hit on, yup totally agree. Something that wasn't mentioned is the tolerances for this guy because they can be freakishly tight that puts way too much leverage/force onto think plastic held together by pin joints. I only played with mine for a day before retiring him to the shelf of disappointment out of fear of breakage. Also another fail that comes with beast wars is the fact it feels like there are two design teams. One is trying to bring the old characters back to life with todays standards and transformations... then there is another team that is trying hard to replicate the original toys. Black Arachnia is amazing, cheetor is very much a new version of his nightmarish road kill kitty toy. Then we have Dinobot that rides the line. Robot is damn near perfect where raptor mode actually manages to look worse than its janky sad dinosaur 95 toy.
The distribution complaint makes total sense. 100% Agee. However, it’s quite near sided to just look at the size of something and classify it as that. I’m not sure where you see thin plastic on this thing, as it’s a very solid toy and has nice quality plastic compared to some of their earlier lines. Engineering also needs to be accounted for, had this been released as a deluxe it could’ve possibly sacrificed the beast mode or articulation. I guess if you are someone who just buys these for the toy aspect of them, then yeah I see maybe not feeling these new figures as much. But I see so much more quality when it comes to no ball joints, better paint, better transformations, a closer look to how most people remember the characters, and just overall presentation. I think hasbros biggest obstacle now is QC and distribution. Prices are raising for every toy line, not just tf, so that’s something people just have to deal with on their own. They are atleast putting in the same effort in these past 3 lines that they are with their Star Wars and marvel figures, which is something that hasn’t always happened.
I had lost complete interest halfway through Earthrise. So soo many Sideswipes and Arcee molds being reused and I'm just tired of G1 everything. I bought siege Megatron, Optimus, and Springer because I will NOT invest in Hasbro masterpiece figures; I'm generally happy with what some of these figures have done and the availability, not so much for the pricing as modern voyagers are half the size of what they used to be and certainly not as sturdy. Primal is my favorite figure thus far and I may just be looking through nostalgia but I can get past the small imperfections. Sorry to hear that Hasbro's handling of things have ruined your experience, hopefully they fix it all for the next big series
I haven't really seen many of either wave at my Walmart, but the problems I've had with recent lines are the god damn exclusives! Like I STILL haven't been able to get Ratchet as he's been exclusive twice! One online and the other WALGREENS?! They don't have much of a toy section to begin with. Mine only ever has seige Hound and that's it. That's the only transformers besides cyberverse Shockwave that my Walgreens has had for over a year! If you look and try to get one online, people sell both versions for anywhere from $100-$400! It's crazy! Many other characters have had this problem too and it's terrible, man! Too many exclusives for main cast characters is a pain and plague that needs to go away. I could see rare and obscure characters, but main cast dudes is just absurd! Hopefully I'll get em eventually. 😅
Kinda late but can confirm. México got the full wave 1 of Earthrise, including Skylynx and Scorponok, plus many exclusives from US-only stores... and then jumped directly into Kingdom.
Do you still have that Blackarachnia card? I threw mine away but I just found out last week that the front peels off to reveal a subtle spoiler in the upcoming Kingdom chapter on Netflix.
They're not spoilers; (at least not intentionally) each Golden Disk card reveals one of three possible destinies for the featured character. (though only one per wave for each character) It's a little like what they did with POTP.
I don't see why that's worth complaining about when I view it more as just a nice Easter egg in a fossilizer. My major issue is why the fuck does cheetor not have either the gut gun or the butt blaster but instead this really awkward pickaxe that's leaning too far back to be actually useful.
@@MrtheFckface Cheetor’s....flail, for lack of better terms, looks to be a reference to his first Transmetal form, which had a similar weapon. But yeah, Cheetor really should have come with his gut gun.
@@MrtheFckface I don’t like Cheetors weapon either, but at least Hasbro fixed that when they released Tigatron. And Tigatron is much better than Cheetor
I'm going to start by saying I completely agree with you on the distribution issues and it's not just in overseas markets I'm in the United States on the East Coast literally one state away from Hasbro's headquarters and we still don't get certain toys in my area, they just never show up in stores for some reason. I've talked to some Walmart and target employees in my area specifically I'm part of a discussion group for fans that has a regional manager that works for Target as part of the group and he told me that people he knows in Walmarts buying an acquisition department have stopped even ordering leader class size figures due to shelf space and very few voyagers if any, any of the larger figures that I've purchased recently have all come from Target, Best buy, or online. That being said I would suggest that you move to online purchasing as your primary means of purchase. I get that it can sometimes be a little bit more expensive due to shipping and other fees but it basically eliminates the "not in stock" issues that you run into at retail stores. Now getting that out of the way I MUST say if you haven't bought a figure since siege ended and earthrise began you have missed out on some of the best figures they've made in the last 20 years! In particular the Earth rise Optimus prime, the earthrise Titan class scorponok, (which is in my opinion the best Titan class figure they've made so far) the Ultra Magnus(earthrise version) is probably the best Ultra Magnus we've gotten since the G1 other than the masterpiece and then you get into the kingdom and the studio series 86 line and some of them are near perfect the cyclonus and the hot rod and jazz figures. One of the things I'm still heated about is the way Hasbro does certain figures of characters that they know are going to be wanted on a mass level but yet they make them Amazon or other such exclusives and they sell out in a matter of hours and the only way to get them is through overpriced scalpers on eBay, I'm still holding out hope to be able to get my hands on the coneheads to complete my seakers set and I've been trying to get my hands on either a siege or earthrise ratchet since before they were released. But if you take anything away from this it's that you should probably try to get your hands on some of these before it's too late. Ps I have an extra Netflix bumblebee I'd be willing to trade for an earthrise ratchet if anyone is interested inbox me.
Primal is tricky. Scale wise he was pretty much right in the middle in terms of height. I'm guessing hasbro could have gotten away with a tall deluxe for him but I'm not sure if the budget of a deluxe would have allowed all the premium paint, features and accessories he has. Plus he's the leader of the maximals. It wouldn't seem right for him to be just a deluxe.
I'm from Canada west coast I went to a place called toy Trader's and I found a beast wars Megatron and I couldn't believe it being a 90s kid. Also as a side note beast wars Megatron has a very accurate face sculpt from the beast wars cartoon so I'm not sure if you have it but it's a must have.
I want to start buying these Kingdom Beast Wars figures but first I wish to make sure: Which of these figures yellow? I know Tigertron, Rhinox, and tragically Dinobot all yellow. I’d appreciate the help.
I Would Have Rather Had Primal OVER Megatron, But ALL The Eastern NC Walmarts (& I Phisically Went To EACH One) ONLY Had Kingdom; Cheetor, Rattrap, Dinobot, BlackArachnia & Megatron! They ALSO Had RED Figures; Primal & Cheetor! (RED DOES NOT Transform). They Didn't Get BW-ReReleases Until Early THIS YEAR... By Which Time I Couldn't Afford ANY OF THEM. However... Kingdom Megatron Was $45? NOW Deluxes Are $35...WTF?
I actually don't buy any kingdom, wfc and earthrise cuz mainly I collect are studio series figures only. Probably after I'm satisfied with the studio series I have maybe I'll jump into the other lines. But tbh I don't think so SS is ending that quick. Plus I don't collect the G1 in studio series as well.
I don't mind Hasbro increasing the price if it's valid. But shrinking voyagers are No No. That packaging BS environment friendly is dubious like Apple not shipping with charger just because. More money for them. I miss the old days when companies made toys because they have the passion for it.
$40 for a deluxe? Was that in a store, or online? As for the distribution, that's been an issue as far back as the Power of the Primes trilogy. I think a big part of the problem is that brick & mortar stores don't want to risk being saddled with putting a lot of fairly pricy merch on clearance because Habro's use of waves means they specifically intend for a given figure to only be on shelves for about half a year, compared to multiple years for the originals.
I don't disagree with your points & I know what you mean. There is so much potential with other lines that they could touch base on, toys from years ago that they could re-release & improve.. But they keep rehashing the SAME SLAGGIN' SCRAP over & over instead of moving forwards. However! Growing up, I never had the luxury of having two parents & I've always lived in rather poor settlements, so it was either I get a new toy like all the other kids are playing with when it's newly released into the market, or I got new school shit & possibly lunchables here & there every so often. So when we did have the cash to fork out for a new toy for me, it was somewhat rare.. As a result of all this, I sadly missed out on a lot of beast wars toys, & G1 figures at the time were a novelty & super expensive because at the time reissues weren't a thing. So with the present toys coming out, I'm actually quite happy I've been able to finally collect my favorite characters from G1 & Beast Wars I missed out on years ago. I mean, obviously I want them to move on & make improved toys from other lines (still pissed about the Armada Prime they cancelled ;A; ) but I won't complain about what they're giving us either. The prices are definitely blind robbery for some figures, especially the Primal you're showing off in the video, but the prices for some of the others are arguably fair I think. But I digress, cool video man, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us ^w^
Interesting to hear stuff like the rehashing of characters is a issue, considering I never really liked the other entries for primal ( the potp version idk I wasn’t a fan of combining optimal and primal in the same figure
I'm just sad about how many Siege-Kingdom figures are yellowing, they rushed everything out as much as they could because they had to get figures on shelves to try to get ahead of the pandemic and boy does it show now. :/
It's not a deluxe, price point and classing has never equaled size. Lockdown is a good example, he's a tall figure but he's still clearly a deluxe and that was in the "golden age". The figures now pose better than any of the old ones and better than studio series. I own a few SS and they're okay, they put their focus into sculpted detail and transformation more than articulation it's fine, I don't like the compromise but I see why.
Even before corona I couldn't find SS or Siege figures _anywhere_ where I live minus a few small shops that only had a few transformers and were more "for geek" shops. Argos only sells Cyberverse figures now, or at least, that was all it sold last time I checked, and I haven't seen them anywhere in big shops like ASDA. Do these companies think america is the only place that matters? Cause that couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.
Honestly I can't relate. This is one of, if not the best voyagers in the WFC trilogy. The price to me is perfect. He's got like 5 or 6 colors painted and plastic where as the average deluxe usually only has 2 or 3. Plus he's the best articulated WFC toy since Siege Starscream. Can say I 110% agree on the distribution. It's terrible. Like for the US, we wait way longer then we used to for newer figures to where it feels like a constant wait then you pop on FB and people in the UK are getting g it 3 months earlier. It's all just cringe.
Lol they are making the packaging to be "environmentally-friendly". Sorry, man, it just costs less money. It also bugs me that they shrunk the figures and raised the price. It's their pattern to 1) raise the quality 2) raise the price to "compensate" for higher quality 3) drop the plastic quality or give less accessories (but not the price) & coast 4) repeat the process before the sales drop too much.
Hasbro needs to fuck off G1 for just a nanosecond. They were going great even when straying away from it. And they should continue the trend of making something old into something new with the Unicron Trilogy. Is it my favorite? Hell no, but it'd be great to get updated figures of those designs.
I dont believe i have enough information to form an opinion other than Hasbro is not great at distribution (or smart choices), Verified by my local game store's owner, The Transformers TCG actually took off therr but one of the problems was they gave Wal*Mart Priority, and not many people go to wal*mart to buy transformers cards. I am however very curious about how much it costs to engineer these, with transformers designs getting better and better, is there any correlation to what they pay their designers?
This guy is 30 bucks where I live,and the paint chipping is only a you problem since I asked some people if they had such problem,and they didn’t,but yeah I feel like this is a mini masterpiece with less paint chipping and better version,just wish he was like 25 bucks and then I could recommend this to other people
i don't like it because it looks like king kong in beast mode and that wasn't what it looked like in the show,if i want screen accuracy i'll get the masterpiece one it's more accurate in beast mode
It's not Hasbro's job to fill the shelves. They sell the product to the retailers, who may or may not put it on the shelf if they can be bothered to order any from their distribution warehouses in the first place.
@@DetectiveBarricade I know that. But their and any other manufactures lack of distrobution is the cause of the low amounts of products on the shelves. Regardless who puts it there.
@@KCGPropsandArt Spector Creative has gone in great detail about how the toy industry works, at least from the perspective of a former brand manager at Mattel. I'd recommend giving his RUclips channel a look. It won't make Walmart fill their shelves any faster, but it's informative.
Ill do that for sure. Thanks for the links, hopefully ill gain a bit more insight. I work at ebx and am aware of how things get shipped to us at the retail end, we cant make specific orders, we just get what we get. Im just venting because the lack of product in small towns.
I'm buying up as many of the Beast Wars Transformers as I can get before Hasbro/Takara go back to pretending Beast Wars doesn't exist.
The next TF movie would be about Beast Wars 👀
@@GeorgiePoorgie86 and the next Transformers toy trilogy includes more BW
This aged well...
Masterpiece rhinox
Next up: jobby the hongs why I stopped collecting masterpiece figures
bruh, he isnt a bad reviewer hes just doing what he enjoys
@@femboyenthusiast3231 he didnt said jobby is a bad reviewer or anything
@@femboyenthusiast3231 bruh, did you read the comment properly?
reasons why:
cardboard engineering
@@azizabdul8914 the paint chips off so much that it'll give you lung cancer
Don't blame the pandemic, Hasbro's distribution has been awful for years, back in the prime wars days I only saw combiner wars, wave 1 of titans return, and potp beachcomber, which was the last generations toy I ever saw in shelves
Actually it's a combinations of many thing; Hasbro's lackey distribution + Scalper + Pandemic lol
@@GamingMafia_id can't scalp if there's nothing to scalp, I can't even find online listings in my country
My view on this whole issue is a bit biased. Seeing how recently I've gotten into Transformers collecting, I'm a bit glad that they're releasing G1 rehashes, so I can build up my army of regular characters before expanding outward, however I can see why long-time collectors are a bit tired of it.
Same here. I started collecting during the Unicron Trilogy while also watching the 86 movie on dvd. I’m very happy to finally have figures that sufficiently satisfy that G1 itch (and recently Beast Wars, after watching that), but I do hope they start to work into more than just G1. Though I’m still waiting for a Kingdom Silverbolt, since they made Blackarachnia.
@@optimistprime3192 I feel like a Silverbolt won't come in Kingdom, Maybe at the tail end but I imagine it being in the next series of figures.
Yeah same. I recently got back into collecting with siege and have been able to get some characters I've never had in my collection! Only problem has been damn exclusives! Still trying to get Ratchet!
@@optiTHOMAS For me the problem was his mold mate: Ironhide (and Prowl).
Exclusives should be limited to stuff like Golden Lagoon and Shattered Glass figures.
@@MisterBurgerBeachball oh yeah definitely. For iron hide and Ratchet my orders were canceled for them too! I agree! I eventually got Iron and prowl miraculously, but still don't have a ratchet. More obscure characters and references should be exclusive, not some of the main cast! It makes trying to get these figures so hard!
I'm a sucker for Beast Wars, but yeah, how is Kingdom Wave 2 out? Most places skipped Earthrise Wave 2 and 3
Exactly! My area misses out on so many figures. If not for ebay and Amazon, I wouldn't be able to get hardly any.
Well, there are the pegwarmers that sit for months until they mysteriously disappear to Big Lots or some other outlet dump.
Same.
You're lucky to see anything, all i end up seeing is netflix wheeljack elita, and cyberverse shockwave, the rest of the shelve is empty
I agree with many of your points, especially with the one about distribution. For instance in my 3 nearest toy shops, in the city i live, there are only cyberverse toys or even THERE ARE NO transformers toys at all.
I’m in the U.S and Primal is $30.00 here
I really want Unicron Trilogy. Nothing like bay formers where literally no characters look anything like themselves, but just something fresh.
Like the Unicron Trilogy.
Yes, the Cybertron figures are unique in terms of designs, have lots of gimmicks, are large, screen accurate, and they are made of 'sterner stuff' than Masterpiece figures.
To reiterate a post I read off tfw2005, they are selling to the retailer, much in the same way they would sell hammers. The shelves are barren, and there’s like one or two less desirable figures on the shelf, they won’t restock until they’re gone and they need more ‘hammers’. It sucks, but that’s how their distribution model is at the moment.
I'm defiantly one of the many people who will disagree with you on the price yes he is about the size of a deluxe but he does come with more accessories , articulation , detail and a better paint job than about 90 percent of my deluxes that I own that makes the price worth it and I'm also no expecting the beast mode to be great because hasbro has never been able to make great organic beast modes within the main generations [does anyone remember the dinobot and cheetor from the universe line ?] but beast megatron is by far is the best mode design out of beast war character we have gotten so far but that is myopinnion just like this video is your opinion and before anyone says that I'm a hasbro lapdog , I do agree with the QC and distribution issues that have been going on for the past those are defiantly not acceptable
Stop trashing on Beast Wars already, nobody cares.
Never saw any ER wave 2 or 3, except for an Arcee I found at Aldi's, but Kingdom distribution has been a lot better, at least in my area, especially at my local target
Same (Except for the leader's, which my Walmart can't restock to save the universe)
Primal is the same amount of plastic as earthrise starscream and the 2 voyager versions of ER prime. 130 grams of plastic. Like or dislike whatever you want but factually there's not much to argue against primals voyager status. There's no arguing that he's short but there's many elements of these toys that can't be shown with your eyes alone and plastic use is one of the few we as consumers can see. Also understand that many of these issues are more about Hasbro as a whole which leaves transformers in submission to their other toylines
primal is also supposed to be short. hes smaller than rhinox & dinobot. a short voyager is exactly what he should be
I agree with you, Im getting tired of them rehashing g1 every time and it's honestly getting boring and repetitive, and the quality control is just redicous, my Optimus primals are can't go side to side because it's to stiff, and that netflicks bee that took me months to track and find in stores already has 3 cracks in the windshield, speaking of that I had how they are making vital parts translucent plastic like the prowl mold knee, and runabout and runamucks back packs, and the distribution sucked everything was an hard to find exclusive or never made it to stores, because hasbro waited for so long to release wave 2 that they blurted both wave 2 and 3 around the same time just to push kingdom, my stores skipped wave 2 and went to wave 3 and that was gone within 2 days, with the beast wars stuff I'm hoping this will be the push to show hasbro g1 isn't the only thing fans want, but knowing them after kingdom their gonna resort back to g1 to play it safe, anyone remember animated? An show that flipped the property on it's head? In creative and interesting ways, well that doesn't align with hasbro's g1 so let's forget to acknowledge it's existence but lets mention it's tf prime aniversity by releasing an two pack
@A guy with an anime Profile Pic Because I can true
Even so why change something that will make cash plus half it’s fanbase is mostly g1 fans
You think animated is forgotten? Cybertron and Robots in Diguise (2001) I feel are the most forgotten major entries despite having amazing designs
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer I ment in the sence where hasbro forgets it has other transformers franchise then g1 since they constantly pander to the geewunners
@@soundshock9357 exactly HALF what about the other half? The other half who never grew up with g1 Plus I never said for them to stop making g1 just to give us more options not all of us grew up with g1 and will sink loads of money into new figures of charaters from these shows, lugnut hasn't gotten an figure since rts and is hella expensive Slipstream only got 2 good figures and they were exculsives while what we got for the mainline was some crappy kid toys, not to mention, it's just sad hasbros just panders so much to one half and bearly pays attention to the other, sure their doing beast wars now but I bet as soon as kingdom ends guess what, back to crowd pleasing boring g1
This guy finally showed up in the mail today, and it's not bad at all compared to some. In the video he keeps calling it a Deluxe class, but the Kingdom version is a Voyager class. Also, not sure about shipping to wherever, but Bigbadtoystore usually has this one for regular price. $30 or w/e it was.
I think he meant that it's too small for a voyager
Same here, pricing and size put me completely out of the Hasbro mainline, I get inflation but for the size, accessories and quality $30 is outrageous nevermind whatever $50 and $100 plus for galvatron and rodimus there going charge! Those are my 2 favorite characters along with the entirety of beast wars and machines... yes machines, and I'm not paying anywhere near $200 for 2 old school size voyagers I don't care how big rodimus's trailer is, potp prime and rodimus was $50 and you got technically 2 figures each!... screw Hasbro with this shit!
dude it has a high enough parts count to look extremely accurate and have individual finger movement, rodimus is filling that price point for his engineering not his size
I've never seen a Netflix Soundwave except the Optimus then gone
Hasbro should've made SIEGE and Kingdom as independent sublines, skip Earthrise, keep Studio Series, and give Cyberverse a dedicated Generations line instead of those shoddy Fisher-Price toys.
That's asking a little too much for one year don't you think?
Its almost the same over here in Germany ,,, especially with Transformers/Hasbro and Mattel .
Seems like our stores only get the leftovers and shelf warmers 6 to 7 months after their official release
Hi you're lucky , the wave was released here in early Texas and I haven't seen wave one or two in my stores at all .
After Kingdom WFC Beast Wars it's Transmetal WFC where Dragon Megatron=200$ and Tigerhawk 100$ lol
Hmm I am in Canada too and I got Prime, Dinobot, Airazor, Megatron, Blackarachnia, Netflix cheetor passed on rat trap, awaiting for Rynox and Scorponock...yes I have huffer and Inferno kingdom WFC too
Would've been alot cooler if a dark and gritty anime reboot of Beast Wars based on my favorite manga Berserk was made, with Dinobot as the protagonist going insane by shedding robot blood of a 100 Predacon army.
Wow interesting take, fellow berserk fan here
@@Faiqal_x1103 Thanks, I also even thought about making myself an Autobot character who's a black and grey-painted pick-up truck with red eyes but who's also a swordsman like Guts too lol.
I am still looking for earthrise sunsreaker here in Toronto D:
I'm getting annoyed at the same characters getting released over and over again as well. But the problem is is that people keep buying them over and over again. If people stopped buying Prime or Starscream or any of the other half dozen characters they release in every wave then Hasbro will stop doing the same characters over and over again and hopefully try to make a bit more variety. I'm not one to get down on a fandom, especially one I'm a part of, but one of the biggest annoyances I have with the Transformers fandom (and this is a problem with other fandoms I'm a part of as well) is that there are a huge (or at least a hugely vocal) group that keeps on bitching and moaning about the constant inclusion of certain characters again and again but still turn around to buy those same rereleases time and again. I wish they would just stop. And I'm not saying that that's what your doing with this video. Sorry if that sounded like I was with you. And plus, with all the times they keep on releasing a character time and time again the specialness of having that character gets lost. I remember the days when having an Optimus prime figure or a Starscream figure or whatever. Now it's just a dime a dozen sometimes with some characters.
I agree, like in my area, I never saw wave 2 or 3 of earthrise, only arcee and that's it, and only a little of some of the waves of siege, I had to get many of them from scalpers and stuff
the price gouging is terrible
Its nice getting a review from a fan, who is not a fan boy. Some channels get far too defensive when it comes to calling Hasbro out, so hearing something other than praise is a much needed change. Pretty much everything you hit on, yup totally agree. Something that wasn't mentioned is the tolerances for this guy because they can be freakishly tight that puts way too much leverage/force onto think plastic held together by pin joints. I only played with mine for a day before retiring him to the shelf of disappointment out of fear of breakage.
Also another fail that comes with beast wars is the fact it feels like there are two design teams. One is trying to bring the old characters back to life with todays standards and transformations... then there is another team that is trying hard to replicate the original toys. Black Arachnia is amazing, cheetor is very much a new version of his nightmarish road kill kitty toy. Then we have Dinobot that rides the line. Robot is damn near perfect where raptor mode actually manages to look worse than its janky sad dinosaur 95 toy.
The distribution complaint makes total sense. 100% Agee. However, it’s quite near sided to just look at the size of something and classify it as that. I’m not sure where you see thin plastic on this thing, as it’s a very solid toy and has nice quality plastic compared to some of their earlier lines. Engineering also needs to be accounted for, had this been released as a deluxe it could’ve possibly sacrificed the beast mode or articulation. I guess if you are someone who just buys these for the toy aspect of them, then yeah I see maybe not feeling these new figures as much. But I see so much more quality when it comes to no ball joints, better paint, better transformations, a closer look to how most people remember the characters, and just overall presentation. I think hasbros biggest obstacle now is QC and distribution. Prices are raising for every toy line, not just tf, so that’s something people just have to deal with on their own. They are atleast putting in the same effort in these past 3 lines that they are with their Star Wars and marvel figures, which is something that hasn’t always happened.
In my old Walmart we would only get wheeljacks. In target I only got ss shatter, hoist, and cliffjumper. That’s it
I just hope they eventually try doing Idw figures...
agree
I had lost complete interest halfway through Earthrise. So soo many Sideswipes and Arcee molds being reused and I'm just tired of G1 everything. I bought siege Megatron, Optimus, and Springer because I will NOT invest in Hasbro masterpiece figures; I'm generally happy with what some of these figures have done and the availability, not so much for the pricing as modern voyagers are half the size of what they used to be and certainly not as sturdy. Primal is my favorite figure thus far and I may just be looking through nostalgia but I can get past the small imperfections. Sorry to hear that Hasbro's handling of things have ruined your experience, hopefully they fix it all for the next big series
Once again, I'm glad I was a Beast Wars stan.
Same in the US. Places will get like 1 box of something and then 100 of the same things
I haven't really seen many of either wave at my Walmart, but the problems I've had with recent lines are the god damn exclusives! Like I STILL haven't been able to get Ratchet as he's been exclusive twice! One online and the other WALGREENS?! They don't have much of a toy section to begin with. Mine only ever has seige Hound and that's it. That's the only transformers besides cyberverse Shockwave that my Walgreens has had for over a year! If you look and try to get one online, people sell both versions for anywhere from $100-$400! It's crazy! Many other characters have had this problem too and it's terrible, man! Too many exclusives for main cast characters is a pain and plague that needs to go away. I could see rare and obscure characters, but main cast dudes is just absurd! Hopefully I'll get em eventually. 😅
Very true
Kinda late but can confirm.
México got the full wave 1 of Earthrise, including Skylynx and Scorponok, plus many exclusives from US-only stores... and then jumped directly into Kingdom.
Do you still have that Blackarachnia card? I threw mine away but I just found out last week that the front peels off to reveal a subtle spoiler in the upcoming Kingdom chapter on Netflix.
They're not spoilers; (at least not intentionally) each Golden Disk card reveals one of three possible destinies for the featured character. (though only one per wave for each character) It's a little like what they did with POTP.
those sticker cards, while they are nice, the budget for them could go towards including more accessories for the figures.
Even without these other faults, the fact you have to buy a separate $20+ toy to get his mace weapon is just another insult from Hasbroke.
I don't see why that's worth complaining about when I view it more as just a nice Easter egg in a fossilizer. My major issue is why the fuck does cheetor not have either the gut gun or the butt blaster but instead this really awkward pickaxe that's leaning too far back to be actually useful.
@@MrtheFckface
Cheetor’s....flail, for lack of better terms, looks to be a reference to his first Transmetal form, which had a similar weapon. But yeah, Cheetor really should have come with his gut gun.
@@optimistprime3192 I know, but that's like if the new rhinox came with his sword instead of his chain guns of doom.
@@MrtheFckface I don’t like Cheetors weapon either, but at least Hasbro fixed that when they released Tigatron. And Tigatron is much better than Cheetor
The bicep swivels on my copy of Primal are too SLAGGING LOOSE but it's a good figure👌🏿
I want an official "TARN" Figure ,,,looks Bad Ass
Hasbro is a company that mainly builds kids toys, which means we may have to wait a while to get a violent character like tarn
dbs Broly: is that a lego arm based on transformers prime
That's where I got the inspiration from but it's part of my Bionicle: the Journey to Home story
I can't even afford the cheapest ones.
I'm going to start by saying I completely agree with you on the distribution issues and it's not just in overseas markets I'm in the United States on the East Coast literally one state away from Hasbro's headquarters and we still don't get certain toys in my area, they just never show up in stores for some reason. I've talked to some Walmart and target employees in my area specifically I'm part of a discussion group for fans that has a regional manager that works for Target as part of the group and he told me that people he knows in Walmarts buying an acquisition department have stopped even ordering leader class size figures due to shelf space and very few voyagers if any, any of the larger figures that I've purchased recently have all come from Target, Best buy, or online. That being said I would suggest that you move to online purchasing as your primary means of purchase. I get that it can sometimes be a little bit more expensive due to shipping and other fees but it basically eliminates the "not in stock" issues that you run into at retail stores. Now getting that out of the way I MUST say if you haven't bought a figure since siege ended and earthrise began you have missed out on some of the best figures they've made in the last 20 years! In particular the Earth rise Optimus prime, the earthrise Titan class scorponok, (which is in my opinion the best Titan class figure they've made so far) the Ultra Magnus(earthrise version) is probably the best Ultra Magnus we've gotten since the G1 other than the masterpiece and then you get into the kingdom and the studio series 86 line and some of them are near perfect the cyclonus and the hot rod and jazz figures. One of the things I'm still heated about is the way Hasbro does certain figures of characters that they know are going to be wanted on a mass level but yet they make them Amazon or other such exclusives and they sell out in a matter of hours and the only way to get them is through overpriced scalpers on eBay, I'm still holding out hope to be able to get my hands on the coneheads to complete my seakers set and I've been trying to get my hands on either a siege or earthrise ratchet since before they were released. But if you take anything away from this it's that you should probably try to get your hands on some of these before it's too late. Ps I have an extra Netflix bumblebee I'd be willing to trade for an earthrise ratchet if anyone is interested inbox me.
Primal is tricky. Scale wise he was pretty much right in the middle in terms of height. I'm guessing hasbro could have gotten away with a tall deluxe for him but I'm not sure if the budget of a deluxe would have allowed all the premium paint, features and accessories he has.
Plus he's the leader of the maximals. It wouldn't seem right for him to be just a deluxe.
Still have my exclusive toys r us beast wars Optimus and Megatron in it's original packaging. Those Transformers were really high quality.
I'm from Canada west coast I went to a place called toy Trader's and I found a beast wars Megatron and I couldn't believe it being a 90s kid. Also as a side note beast wars Megatron has a very accurate face sculpt from the beast wars cartoon so I'm not sure if you have it but it's a must have.
Got him for 24.99 Walmart last month
I want to start buying these Kingdom Beast Wars figures but first I wish to make sure: Which of these figures yellow?
I know Tigertron, Rhinox, and tragically Dinobot all yellow. I’d appreciate the help.
Unicron trilogy 2023
I LOVE WFC LINE BECAUSE OF G1!👍 The next line will STILL include G1👍 Beast Wars and Armada.
I Would Have Rather Had
Primal OVER Megatron,
But ALL The Eastern NC
Walmarts (& I Phisically
Went To EACH One) ONLY
Had Kingdom; Cheetor, Rattrap,
Dinobot, BlackArachnia &
Megatron! They ALSO Had
RED Figures; Primal & Cheetor!
(RED DOES NOT Transform).
They Didn't Get BW-ReReleases
Until Early THIS YEAR... By
Which Time I Couldn't Afford
ANY OF THEM. However...
Kingdom Megatron Was $45?
NOW Deluxes Are $35...WTF?
Can you review Smokescreen?
This whole not arriving thing is normal on Australia we only ever make it to wave two in any line lucky if its wave 3 :(
That's why I haven't bought the Beast Wars Kingdom figures. They look great! But I'll probably wait until they're on sale.
What maid me mad is when you said the paint chipping that was on this figure so does the masterpiece
I paid 29 for this, is kinda good i love it
I actually don't buy any kingdom, wfc and earthrise cuz mainly I collect are studio series figures only. Probably after I'm satisfied with the studio series I have maybe I'll jump into the other lines. But tbh I don't think so SS is ending that quick. Plus I don't collect the G1 in studio series as well.
I don't mind Hasbro increasing the price if it's valid. But shrinking voyagers are No No. That packaging BS environment friendly is dubious like Apple not shipping with charger just because. More money for them. I miss the old days when companies made toys because they have the passion for it.
I literally just bought the Wii issue of beast Wars Optimus Prime and beast Wars Megatron for £25.
And they still hold up today
did you get the Megatron?
$40 for a deluxe? Was that in a store, or online?
As for the distribution, that's been an issue as far back as the Power of the Primes trilogy. I think a big part of the problem is that brick & mortar stores don't want to risk being saddled with putting a lot of fairly pricy merch on clearance because Habro's use of waves means they specifically intend for a given figure to only be on shelves for about half a year, compared to multiple years for the originals.
While I like that Optimus Primal figure, I can't wait to get the KO version, scaled up to MP size.
Here in brazil, we still have Combiner wars figures and nothing of Legacy figures
I don't disagree with your points & I know what you mean. There is so much potential with other lines that they could touch base on, toys from years ago that they could re-release & improve.. But they keep rehashing the SAME SLAGGIN' SCRAP over & over instead of moving forwards.
However! Growing up, I never had the luxury of having two parents & I've always lived in rather poor settlements, so it was either I get a new toy like all the other kids are playing with when it's newly released into the market, or I got new school shit & possibly lunchables here & there every so often. So when we did have the cash to fork out for a new toy for me, it was somewhat rare.. As a result of all this, I sadly missed out on a lot of beast wars toys, & G1 figures at the time were a novelty & super expensive because at the time reissues weren't a thing. So with the present toys coming out, I'm actually quite happy I've been able to finally collect my favorite characters from G1 & Beast Wars I missed out on years ago. I mean, obviously I want them to move on & make improved toys from other lines (still pissed about the Armada Prime they cancelled ;A; ) but I won't complain about what they're giving us either. The prices are definitely blind robbery for some figures, especially the Primal you're showing off in the video, but the prices for some of the others are arguably fair I think.
But I digress, cool video man, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us ^w^
Interesting to hear stuff like the rehashing of characters is a issue, considering I never really liked the other entries for primal ( the potp version idk I wasn’t a fan of combining optimal and primal in the same figure
Damn bro in my country we r still in earthrise wave 1 and also not even a single leader class was for sale not even in siege even for online retailers
Not a lot of Earthrise or Kingdom figures showed up in my area, either. At most with Kingdom, it was the Certopsian Beastformer, but that was it.
I feel the same way Hasbro needs to up there game
Did you get Megatron yet?
Over here in oz, kingdom voyager class optimus primal is $50au.
Can confirm, just picked up Rattrap for $20 today
You should get kingdom megatron at hasbro pulse
I'm just sad about how many Siege-Kingdom figures are yellowing, they rushed everything out as much as they could because they had to get figures on shelves to try to get ahead of the pandemic and boy does it show now. :/
It's not a deluxe, price point and classing has never equaled size. Lockdown is a good example, he's a tall figure but he's still clearly a deluxe and that was in the "golden age". The figures now pose better than any of the old ones and better than studio series. I own a few SS and they're okay, they put their focus into sculpted detail and transformation more than articulation it's fine, I don't like the compromise but I see why.
Good points!
Even before corona I couldn't find SS or Siege figures _anywhere_ where I live minus a few small shops that only had a few transformers and were more "for geek" shops. Argos only sells Cyberverse figures now, or at least, that was all it sold last time I checked, and I haven't seen them anywhere in big shops like ASDA. Do these companies think america is the only place that matters? Cause that couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.
Honestly I can't relate. This is one of, if not the best voyagers in the WFC trilogy.
The price to me is perfect. He's got like 5 or 6 colors painted and plastic where as the average deluxe usually only has 2 or 3. Plus he's the best articulated WFC toy since Siege Starscream.
Can say I 110% agree on the distribution. It's terrible. Like for the US, we wait way longer then we used to for newer figures to where it feels like a constant wait then you pop on FB and people in the UK are getting g it 3 months earlier. It's all just cringe.
My Primal's blue shoulder pipe thing broke. To the people that are reading this, watch out and take care
Lol they are making the packaging to be "environmentally-friendly". Sorry, man, it just costs less money.
It also bugs me that they shrunk the figures and raised the price. It's their pattern to 1) raise the quality 2) raise the price to "compensate" for higher quality 3) drop the plastic quality or give less accessories (but not the price) & coast 4) repeat the process before the sales drop too much.
Now go to Ross you can pick it up for 16.99 same with other figures right now
It’s war for cybertron version 2 pack
Hasbro needs to fuck off G1 for just a nanosecond. They were going great even when straying away from it.
And they should continue the trend of making something old into something new with the Unicron Trilogy. Is it my favorite? Hell no, but it'd be great to get updated figures of those designs.
Agreed
I dont believe i have enough information to form an opinion other than Hasbro is not great at distribution (or smart choices), Verified by my local game store's owner, The Transformers TCG actually took off therr but one of the problems was they gave Wal*Mart Priority, and not many people go to wal*mart to buy transformers cards. I am however very curious about how much it costs to engineer these, with transformers designs getting better and better, is there any correlation to what they pay their designers?
You think your walmarts Transformers stock is bad? Last time I went there were ONLY LIKE 2 R.E.D BUMBLEBEES.. THATS IT.
It's a dewaking mainline. Stop asking for masterpiece quality
I managed to find this figure and a core class rat trap two pack for only 17 usd.
“It costs 40 dollars”
Really? Jesus, you guys are being ripped off, it’s only 20/25 quid over here in the UK, which is like, 26 to 30 dollars I think
We’ll I mean, exchange rates are different
a little unfair to make a optimus primal review but complain about the distribution and generations
This guy is 30 bucks where I live,and the paint chipping is only a you problem since I asked some people if they had such problem,and they didn’t,but yeah I feel like this is a mini masterpiece with less paint chipping and better version,just wish he was like 25 bucks and then I could recommend this to other people
Move to the US where it’s $30
Agree In SoCAL it is hard to find studio serries toys
i don't like it because it looks like king kong in beast mode and that wasn't what it looked like in the show,if i want screen accuracy i'll get the masterpiece one it's more accurate in beast mode
Oh really last time I went to heb and Walmart i saw wave 1 of er and some 2 figs
Yeah as fas as distribution goes, there aren't even 40 million of us in Canada so I don't think it's possible for them to care any less about us.
I remember it being $29.99, I still think it should have been $19.99 or even $24.99 at most, but I don't remember it being $39.99
Canadian dollars.
The best way to get it is i the 2-pack with rattrap.
The toys r us where I live stopped selling transformers because they couldn't get eny order placements in
Well this hasn't age well.
Hasbro distribution sucks. All the good stuff goes to South-east Asia and we got the rest.
we get the shaft in canada. Unless its star wars hasbro doesnt care about filling shelves.
It's not Hasbro's job to fill the shelves. They sell the product to the retailers, who may or may not put it on the shelf if they can be bothered to order any from their distribution warehouses in the first place.
@@DetectiveBarricade I know that. But their and any other manufactures lack of distrobution is the cause of the low amounts of products on the shelves. Regardless who puts it there.
@@KCGPropsandArt Spector Creative has gone in great detail about how the toy industry works, at least from the perspective of a former brand manager at Mattel. I'd recommend giving his RUclips channel a look. It won't make Walmart fill their shelves any faster, but it's informative.
Ill do that for sure. Thanks for the links, hopefully ill gain a bit more insight. I work at ebx and am aware of how things get shipped to us at the retail end, we cant make specific orders, we just get what we get. Im just venting because the lack of product in small towns.
Well dude hate to tell you but they are raising prices so..... dirty bastards!
$40!!??? It's Like 110 Quid in GB
Hey, canadian, beat it, you could still live in Czech republic, which's distribution is even worse.
My place is worse that’s why I resort to online stores