I think there is a good chance Apple will put the A17 Pro chip in the next Apple TV. That would make it a great little iOS game console. I also like the idea of an M-series gaming Mac, and there have been rumours of a gaming-oriented Mac for several years now.
I think the idea of a gaming mac will be mature only if apple can convince a huge number of gaming companies and developers to convert their games to apple ecosystem, especially those triple a titles. The games from Apple Arcade are just way too boring.
@@wangxx6970 I agree. Many big AAA games have and will come to the Mac, including several Resident Evil titles, Robocop: Rogue City, Palworld and Control (which I'm REALLY looking forward to, partly because my friend Brooke worked on it), but high-profile Mac gaming has yet to gain a good momentum. For that matter, Apple produces their own film and TV through Apple Original Films, so they really should make their own video games, too.
I think next Apple TV will have A18 chip from the next iPhone. Apple will put the newest chip for Apple Intelligence, but games will also benefit from this.
@ehtasam2080 I mean look at the M iPads. There’s like 4 games that actually fully utilize the chip. The resident evil games and Assassin’s creed. Those are the only ones as far as I know that are M series iPad specific
RetroArch literally saves gaming on AppleTV, I now have a great handful of old classics ready to play now thanks to it. More storage is definitely needed now, either an extra slot or let us add externals.
Hola, TV tiene una resolución muy limpia y detallada, es muy similar a pc y mejor que series x (resolución real), eso puede afectar el rendimiento pero se ve exquisita, hace poco compré Bod esponja Cosmic shake y con todo en épico se ve genial “, lástima no me deja descarga otra voces por un error dudoso, le adapte un disipador de calor para no tener caídas de fps en periodos largos de juegos, de echo creo que las temperaturas es lo único que la afecta a este dispositivo.
Great idea for a video. The Apple TV 4K is amazing and gaming on it is really good, too. Especially when the internet connection is not good enough for cloud gaming (or where it is not available yet). Thank you!
Apple cut out the fan to save money. What would it have cost Apple for a fan? A dollar or two? After they make a few million units,there’s millions of dollars worth of savings not including the up charge for a piece of hardware. This is why Apple is a 3 trillion dollar company. And cost cutting is also why Apple doesn’t include power bricks in new iPhones, the saving the environment crap is what they say to please the tree huggers.
Apple arcade works but apple tv really needs access to geforce now , that is why even an old nvidia shield tv connected to the house internet, still crush in terms of library any apple tv device I mean you can play the first descent on the nvidia device but on the apple device nop ☠️
@MrMacRight- what application do you use for your FPS readout when not using the Metal performance HUD? Is it Trdrop? Thanks for the awesome video, I’ve wanted to get a 3rd gen for a while but they are strangely always sold out on Amazon in the US.
Yes trdrop. Performance HUD doesn't work on iPhone, iPad and Apple TV App Store games. You have to sideload games or jailbreak your device, which I'm not going to do.
@@MrMacRight oh ok, was hoping you had some cool new software (TRDrop is kind of hard to use and needing uncompressed video is rough). But thanks for answering. I knew metal performance hud was mostly a Mac thing but I thought it could be used on iOS/iPadOS also (in developer mode or something). I thought I saw ETA prime using Metal Performance HUD on his iPad Pro M4 review.
@@MrMacRight Yes, you are correct, it was Hades. I wasn’t aware that was the only game that supported. Anyway, thank you for answering my questions and for the awesome content you make. You’re like the Apple ecosystem’s Digital Foundry, just wanted you to know I appreciate that your channel exists!
The RAM issue doesn’t make sense for SpongeBob The Cosmic Shake, I can play in Ultra at 60 fps on my iPad Pro 2018 with absolutely no stability issues, which does have 4GB of RAM like this Apple TV. But I also can’t do ultra on my iPhone SE 2022, which also have 4GB of RAM. I know that A12X features double the memory bandwidth compared to A15 (68.2 GB/s on A12X vs 34.1GB/s on A15), so my guess is that Cosmic Shake actually have an issue with memory bandwidth instead of the amount of RAM.
I have Apple TV and I think it is an incredible piece of hardware and compared with other Apple products is not expensive at all. When it comes to gaming, outside Apple Arcade this platform lacks quality games (10-11 worth games and stop counting). The worst is, Apple does not care…😢 By the way, nice video. I like them all MrMacRight!
I would really like to see Apple go all out and put the money and advertising to make the Apple TV their console. Apple needs to pay for games to be on the Apple TV day and date,market it as a gaming device, and when people look up what platforms a game is on Apple should show up on any commercial/trailer at the ends just like the Sony PlayStation does!
Well, you have Mac Mini with HDMI port. Sure, is not that cheap, like Apple TV, but one of the reasons why ATV is cheap, is because it have iPhone chip in here. If Apple put M series chip to ATV, it will have higher prices of it, I’m sure of it.
Something I’m furious about is the following. I own many paid games like Trainz Simulator 3 for example. I also did many in app purchases in this game. Meanwhile rocking an iPad Pro M4 and this game can’t be played. I’ve reached out to the developer and no response whatsoever. Recently I’ve reached out to Apple about this problem. Yet have to get an answer though. Looks like many games and apps still have to be optimized to run on M4. M4 uses ARM V9.2. It’s the first Apple Silicon chip with ARM V9.2. Everything else is V8
The problem with Apple TV is hardly any IOS games support it, which is strange because it would be trivial to add support. If Apple TV had nearly all the same games as Iphone/Ipad, it would be a gaming no-brainer for the living room.
I really don’t understand why Apple doesn’t bring an AppleTV with a M chip. But I have hope for the next generation. Cause the limitations for Apple size are risen with iOS 18 so I hope with tv18 and a new hopefully AppleTV Mx we also see AA games like the next Assassin Creed
If they want to win with Apple TV they have to make all iOS games and iPad games be playable on the Apple TV. Not waiting per app dev to port it. Just stream them somehow. Once they do that you won’t need Apple Arcade since even there you can’t play all games on tv. For anyone with hot Apple TV just buy small fan and put it under the Apple TV connected to usb behind TV and you are good to go.
I don’t have either of these devices. I’ll buy a switch the moment the next version comes out. Can’t justify to buy one now as old and unchanged as it is.
If only uncle Nintendo and daddy Apple would work together to create an Apple TV/Switch successor hybrid😮 Imagine the possibilities and opportunities for both companies!
I think the AppleTV is an unsung here, especially now with emulation it’s a great games console. I’ve already chosen this route over a ps5 and don’t regret the choice.
apple needs to upgrade the appletv with a A18 chip. once it arrives for iphone 16. A15 so dated at this point. imagine how many more games it could support
They need to put an M3 in it. They're putting M3 chips inside of damn ipads. They might as well LOL even if they want to keep the price down putting an M1 would go so crazy. You could put full on PS4/XB1 games on it at that point.
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I think there is a good chance Apple will put the A17 Pro chip in the next Apple TV. That would make it a great little iOS game console.
I also like the idea of an M-series gaming Mac, and there have been rumours of a gaming-oriented Mac for several years now.
I think the idea of a gaming mac will be mature only if apple can convince a huge number of gaming companies and developers to convert their games to apple ecosystem, especially those triple a titles. The games from Apple Arcade are just way too boring.
@@wangxx6970
I agree.
Many big AAA games have and will come to the Mac, including several Resident Evil titles, Robocop: Rogue City, Palworld and Control (which I'm REALLY looking forward to, partly because my friend Brooke worked on it), but high-profile Mac gaming has yet to gain a good momentum.
For that matter, Apple produces their own film and TV through Apple Original Films, so they really should make their own video games, too.
I think before that we need more games that are more graphically intensive
I think next Apple TV will have A18 chip from the next iPhone. Apple will put the newest chip for Apple Intelligence, but games will also benefit from this.
@ehtasam2080 I mean look at the M iPads. There’s like 4 games that actually fully utilize the chip. The resident evil games and Assassin’s creed. Those are the only ones as far as I know that are M series iPad specific
RetroArch literally saves gaming on AppleTV, I now have a great handful of old classics ready to play now thanks to it. More storage is definitely needed now, either an extra slot or let us add externals.
is ppsspp available on apple tv?
@@freshy1097 no. You can play psp through RetroArch though.
I downloaded RetroArch. But where can I find games?
@@freshy1097Unfortunately not at the moment. Let’s hope it will be available soon!
@@freshy1097 he literally showed it on this video
apple bu cihazlara m serisi çip ve metal fx upscaling getirirse mükemmel olur. bide donanımsal kare üretme teknolojilerinide eklerse dahada iyi olur.
if u download delta and play nds games, u scan airplay the top nds screen to tv and phone as bottom nds screen, like playing wii u
Wow I asked this the other day, you delivered!
Hola, TV tiene una resolución muy limpia y detallada, es muy similar a pc y mejor que series x (resolución real), eso puede afectar el rendimiento pero se ve exquisita, hace poco compré Bod esponja Cosmic shake y con todo en épico se ve genial “, lástima no me deja descarga otra voces por un error dudoso, le adapte un disipador de calor para no tener caídas de fps en periodos largos de juegos, de echo creo que las temperaturas es lo único que la afecta a este dispositivo.
Great idea for a video. The Apple TV 4K is amazing and gaming on it is really good, too. Especially when the internet connection is not good enough for cloud gaming (or where it is not available yet). Thank you!
It would be awesome if Apple just permitted external USB drives.
Thank you for this video! I am a big Apple TV gamer and I still cant understand why they cut the fan in the third GEN 😢
Apple cut out the fan to save money. What would it have cost Apple for a fan? A dollar or two? After they make a few million units,there’s millions of dollars worth of savings not including the up charge for a piece of hardware. This is why Apple is a 3 trillion dollar company. And cost cutting is also why Apple doesn’t include power bricks in new iPhones, the saving the environment crap is what they say to please the tree huggers.
what if you put a fan on the 3rd gen? i'm not sure how much that would help since it's made out of plastic, but it's worth a try
Hey! I tried out God of War: Ghost of Sparta on my Apple TV (A1842 32Gb model) and the audio was stuttering so bad... What can I do about that?
Apple arcade works but apple tv really needs access to geforce now , that is why even an old nvidia shield tv connected to the house internet, still crush in terms of library any apple tv device
I mean you can play the first descent on the nvidia device but on the apple device nop ☠️
It will be possible on iPhone. If you live in the EU that is.
@@emiel333 right now is possible on iPhone my random fellow ( geforce now web app is available worldwide on the iPhone by the way )
@@emiel333 right now is possible on iPhone ,geforce now web app is available worldwide on the iPhone
What is the 2d game at 14:14? Looks interesting...
The one at 14:14 is Huntdown. But the 2nd game shown there is the racing game? Beach Buggy Racing.
Apple needs to support VRR on their devices
How can the 2nd gen run so much better than the 3rd gen?
Because it has a fan, so no thermal throttling
Apple cost cutting 🤦♂️
Fan
The 2nd gen ATV 4k does have an extra core in its CPU, it also has a 4 core GPU
2nd has a fan 3rd gen hasn’t.
Cool video, thanks)
@MrMacRight- what application do you use for your FPS readout when not using the Metal performance HUD? Is it Trdrop? Thanks for the awesome video, I’ve wanted to get a 3rd gen for a while but they are strangely always sold out on Amazon in the US.
Yes trdrop. Performance HUD doesn't work on iPhone, iPad and Apple TV App Store games. You have to sideload games or jailbreak your device, which I'm not going to do.
@@MrMacRight oh ok, was hoping you had some cool new software (TRDrop is kind of hard to use and needing uncompressed video is rough). But thanks for answering. I knew metal performance hud was mostly a Mac thing but I thought it could be used on iOS/iPadOS also (in developer mode or something). I thought I saw ETA prime using Metal Performance HUD on his iPad Pro M4 review.
@@jedimindtrickonyou3692 For HADES in their video? That is the only game I know of on the App Store that supports the HUD.
@@MrMacRight Yes, you are correct, it was Hades. I wasn’t aware that was the only game that supported. Anyway, thank you for answering my questions and for the awesome content you make. You’re like the Apple ecosystem’s Digital Foundry, just wanted you to know I appreciate that your channel exists!
The RAM issue doesn’t make sense for SpongeBob The Cosmic Shake, I can play in Ultra at 60 fps on my iPad Pro 2018 with absolutely no stability issues, which does have 4GB of RAM like this Apple TV. But I also can’t do ultra on my iPhone SE 2022, which also have 4GB of RAM.
I know that A12X features double the memory bandwidth compared to A15 (68.2 GB/s on A12X vs 34.1GB/s on A15), so my guess is that Cosmic Shake actually have an issue with memory bandwidth instead of the amount of RAM.
I have Apple TV and I think it is an incredible piece of hardware and compared with other Apple products is not expensive at all. When it comes to gaming, outside Apple Arcade this platform lacks quality games (10-11 worth games and stop counting). The worst is, Apple does not care…😢
By the way, nice video. I like them all MrMacRight!
you can also put emulator on it and play up to PS2 games!
i hope that they make an apple tv with idk m2 inside and sell it for same as ps5 and make a console out of it
I would really like to see Apple go all out and put the money and advertising to make the Apple TV their console. Apple needs to pay for games to be on the Apple TV day and date,market it as a gaming device, and when people look up what platforms a game is on Apple should show up on any commercial/trailer at the ends just like the Sony PlayStation does!
Well, you have Mac Mini with HDMI port. Sure, is not that cheap, like Apple TV, but one of the reasons why ATV is cheap, is because it have iPhone chip in here. If Apple put M series chip to ATV, it will have higher prices of it, I’m sure of it.
your voice sounds like Snape a little!
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Something I’m furious about is the following. I own many paid games like Trainz Simulator 3 for example. I also did many in app purchases in this game. Meanwhile rocking an iPad Pro M4 and this game can’t be played. I’ve reached out to the developer and no response whatsoever. Recently I’ve reached out to Apple about this problem. Yet have to get an answer though. Looks like many games and apps still have to be optimized to run on M4. M4 uses ARM V9.2. It’s the first Apple Silicon chip with ARM V9.2. Everything else is V8
The problem with Apple TV is hardly any IOS games support it, which is strange because it would be trivial to add support. If Apple TV had nearly all the same games as Iphone/Ipad, it would be a gaming no-brainer for the living room.
I really don’t understand why Apple doesn’t bring an AppleTV with a M chip. But I have hope for the next generation. Cause the limitations for Apple size are risen with iOS 18 so I hope with tv18 and a new hopefully AppleTV Mx we also see AA games like the next Assassin Creed
Mac mini with m chip. It's just unnecessary to put strong chip inTV
Because they have Mac minis
We need Oceanhorn to be the Zelda of Apple arcade, we need more follow up titles!
Agree for more titles like Oceanhorn but it’s far, far away of being a Zelda game mate.
The Apple TV 4K 3rd-Gen has a cooling fan?!
No
@@DonaldPiperEarso only the earlier have it?
If they want to win with Apple TV they have to make all iOS games and iPad games be playable on the Apple TV. Not waiting per app dev to port it. Just stream them somehow. Once they do that you won’t need Apple Arcade since even there you can’t play all games on tv. For anyone with hot Apple TV just buy small fan and put it under the Apple TV connected to usb behind TV and you are good to go.
I don’t have either of these devices. I’ll buy a switch the moment the next version comes out. Can’t justify to buy one now as old and unchanged as it is.
If only uncle Nintendo and daddy Apple would work together to create an Apple TV/Switch successor hybrid😮
Imagine the possibilities and opportunities for both companies!
Uncle Nintendo sells 150 milioni consoles in a generation and 60$/€ games, they don’t care what Apple want or does.
I think the AppleTV is an unsung here, especially now with emulation it’s a great games console. I’ve already chosen this route over a ps5 and don’t regret the choice.
What? The TV A15 doesn’t have a fan? Ridiculous. Probably something to do with reducing costs.
apple needs to upgrade the appletv with a A18 chip. once it arrives for iphone 16. A15 so dated at this point. imagine how many more games it could support
They need to put an M3 in it. They're putting M3 chips inside of damn ipads. They might as well LOL even if they want to keep the price down putting an M1 would go so crazy. You could put full on PS4/XB1 games on it at that point.
Apple had everything here to make an interesting tv console at good price, they just didn’t care much about that product.
Sad how there no minecraft on it anymore
Everything you said makes perfect sense but Apple doesn’t do what makes sense
nice
It’s so stupid that they removed to cooler
Are you expecting something cheap from Apple?
First lol…. so 2015