Song List: The Marines Hymn [0:00 ] Free to Use Beat: ruclips.net/video/5BnKfLiEDp0/видео.html [0:44] Full Metal Jacket Soundtrack - Leonard : ruclips.net/video/qVv1XsGMv-I/видео.html [2:50] Burnt to a Crisp or Bloody as Hell: ruclips.net/video/7RJQTOGcK14/видео.html [6:00] Far The Days Come - Letter Box : ruclips.net/video/9q4FFIBnkmI/видео.html [6:34] YES, we know it's "Disgusting Fat-body" and NOT "Disgusting fuckbody", you know...late night editing. Shit happens.
Yeah! And how is Pyle killing the drill instructor is the only part of him thats "human"? The whole video claims that becoming a killer is when you lose individuality and humanity. Very good video but a bit confused at some points.
I believe it's still a proper analysis in terms of Jokers hesitation. Hartmann trained them to keep their shit wired tight at all times and at the moment of truth he failed. Instead of clearing the jam he fumbled around and dropped his weapon, looking inept and untrained. His instincts weren't sharp. It should have been instinctual "shit, jammed" wham bam clear it and hose her. Especially if he's approaching the hostile position I would have made sure I was locked and loaded ready to fire.
Ahmet Ertuğrul Akyol The point of the video is highlighting the conflicts within the characters. Pyles new killer instinct and his last semblance of humanity clash and culminate in the murder of Hartmann. He loathes Hartmann because of the abuse of his psyche, or humanity, and his instincts motivate him to squeeze the trigger. Pyle was defending his own humanity from being lost forever in a void of abuse, but upon the act of murder, he realizes he lost it and in that moment decides to kill himself. There's more to it then him simply going crazy or else he would have triggered joker too. Granted joker helped him but he also participated in the act of abuse that pushed Pyle over the edge, the soap scene.
A simple yet discrete detail I liked was that "born to kill" was written on his helmet and the peace symbol was over his heart. Shows how Hartman hijacked his brain but Joker retained his heart.
Its also fitting that Kubrick's films can be watched at face value by casual moviegoers as a normal films (the shining as a horror story, full metal jacket as a war movie, etc ) or they can be completely analyzed like this and still not make any outrageous stretches...the duality of man. Amazing video, great work!
I can definitely agree with that about Kubrick films, but that analogy works for any film that could be called ‘a work of art’ (Kubrick films, No Country For Old Men, Apocalypse Now, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Taxi Driver). Great stories with hidden meanings, symbolism, all that good stuff in it as well. Unfortunately we haven’t had too many of those in the last decade, at least in my opinion.
The first time I watched Full Metal Jacket I thought it was a comedy because the boot camp scenes were hilarious to me right up until the scene where Gomer Pyle gets beaten with soap bars in socks.
This movie really comes to show that ultimately we create our own demons and that we ultimately become what we hate. My uncle served in Vietnam and I know nothing about his time there. All that my dad told me was that his brother left for Vietnam and someone else came back.
Sub Zero my great uncle served there too. He was 18 or a little above it, and he returned a changed man. Somehow he is one of the funniest guys I’ve ever known, but PTSD still sticks with him to this day.
That happened to a lot. They were drafted, made it through the severe behavior modification of basic/boot camp, then exposed to the horrors of war. They may be in one piece physically, but don’t expect to see that same individual again. PTSD and a TBI did a number on me as well.
Guys, don't you think, in a paradoxical, way nuclear weapons has made humanity safer because going to war assures mutual destruction so it compels leaders to find peaceful solutions?
@@rohandalvi6476 Yes, indeed as Krishna spoke to Prince Arjuna about the need for war and the role of the leader. What I think is so clever by Kubrick is the reference of the quote for the soldiers and war machine that don't understand the deeper meaning of the quote.
The scene where the marines sneak out of bed as they prepare to beat Pyle is arguably the most sinister for me. They look like a pack of wild animals before they hunt their prey. Very poetic when considering the dehumanization factor.
when it comes to survival and instinct, humans are no different than wild beasts, regardless of gender, race, or religion. and regardless of how "moral" or "evolved'' they are
Bullying is one thing, but in a combat situation you want to be sure that the guy who holds your life in his hands can stand up to the pressure. Pyle couldn't. The problem is that he wasn't discharged from bootcamp.
Yes! Joker has a novice level awareness and understanding of Jung. The Colonel's rebuttal, "Who's side are you on?" suggests the Colonel is fully aware and understanding of "the Jungian thing" but has no time or inclination to discuss it. He expects obedience. Period.
DualityofManLimited I saw it as a defense mechanism; as if he didn’t understand fully what Joker meant if at all and reverted back the authority to him.
Very well done. As a veteran this explains why this movie is such a big part of military culture and a favorite amongst those who serve. We are broken down into the cogs of the big military machine from day one.
The military is a sacrifice. They make you the most efficient group machine you can possibly be to defend those ideals for civilians. But in the pursuit of that efficiency you have to sacrifice those things yourself. Like a parent going hungry so their child can eat.
The military doesn’t want robots a mindless drone is good for following orders but a mindless drone needs instruction. The scene when joker is made squad leader is a good example any answer will be wrong and he will be punished more if he reverts himself. By sticking to his principles he shows the ability to think and stick to his guns a leadership trait.
issue is the 1st act starts and finishes an arc like a standalone film. the protagonist shifts from 2 to 1, location changes, wardrobes change, characters change so relations change, situation changes means conflict changes.
Theoretically you could've split them into two movies and just stretched the two acts out. But I think it works better as one film. No padding and you get Jokers whole arch in one sitting
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Something I never asked myself until my third viewing of the film is, “why exactly does Lawrence (Gomer Pyle) snap at this particular part in the movie?” The last few scenes leading up to this point show a significant improvement in his performance compared to the first scenes with Pyle. He had graduated and as Joker said, it was their last night on Parris Island. He didn’t have to put up with most of the bullying/demeaning anymore. Sure he would have no grand time in Vietnam but if he kept performing like the last few scenes with him in Boot Camp showed, then there would be very little reason for others to demean him like Hartman had done for the past few weeks. The DI is staying in Parris Island to continue training new recruits right? Pyle only had to deal with the source of most of his turmoil for the past few weeks (Hartman) for one more night. An easy task considering he’d shaped up. Sure, Pyle was bitter about his treatment for the past few weeks but in 1 night his life was about to improve compared to how it had been lately…. Okay maybe improve isn’t the right word… he’s still being sent off to Vietnam but it seemed like he was on the right track to becoming the perfect marine, even if it did cost him is individuality, sanity, and a beating or two. Perhaps not having to deal with Hartman wasn’t enough and he felt he had to kill him. Killing Hartman was retribution for his treatment but also serves as payback for drastically turning him into what Pyle deep down really isn’t; a killer. Regardless, there’s another theory that makes the timing of his snapping point make a bit more sense: Clearly, Lawrence was drafted. There’s no way he would have volunteered. He obviously doesn’t want to be there so he figures the best way to avoid being sent to Vietnam is to fake being unfit for service. Maybe, just maybe, his plan will work… the verbal and physical abuse he endured will be worth it if he gets sent home or reassigned. What if the real reason he snapped was because of his realization that his plan of playing a fool to get him discharged failed, he endured weeks of verbal and physical abuse all for nothing, he is still being sent off to Vietnam and most likely will die. Notice how he executes the rifle exercise flawlessly in this scene and how his performance has improved overall leading up to this scene, just as if he had dropped the act or something. I don’t know, an “if I’m going sent off to die I might as well die on my own terms and might as well take Hartman with me as payback” kind of thing I just wanted to share this theory that kind of blew my mind (pun intended) that makes the timing of Pyle’s breakdown make more sense.
Pyle is clearly a victim of the US program "Mcnamara's Morons" were the govt lowered the standards of individuals for draft (even those with low I.Qs) in order to increase US troops reinforcements in Vietnam.
I feel like if it was his plan all along, he wouldn't have seemingly improved over time as we see in the film. It seems to take him a few days to rapidly get better, but if he was trying to be discharged you'd think he'd keep the act up until the last possible moment. but it is an interesting theory
When you achieve the goals you had set, then what? It doesn't matter if you are homeless or a CEO, then what? He transformed into what they wanted a killer. So he killed. No going up or down the chain of life, he just remained what he became. I think it's like that because he and Joker could have been friends, but instead Joker maintained his heart, and Pyle lost his.
This whole theory ignores an entire chunk of the movie where Lawrence is inspired by famous criminal assassins and dedicates his practice to the rifle, all with the intention - over days or weeks - to kill Hartman
@@DutchKidRangerI wouldnt day he lost his heart. Just had it torn from his chest. Despite Joker joining in heavily on the abuse, Leonard spared him. That shows heart. He's portrayed as very sinister, but I dont know who wouldnt want to shoot Hartman after a month of what he put him through. The marines just set an example for him.
No offense but you've gotta watch some mediocre videos if this is the best editing you've ever seen. And don't worry, I won't be watching it a second time :)
The military haircut....also known as the "the great equalizer". Humans are visual creatures. Removing our hair removed a huge amount of of our individuality and made us look all the more alike.
I remember a friend and I was watching this move for the first time and in the movie. Both of us was laughing at Private Pyle until the part he committed suicide...after that we remained quiet the whole rest of the movie...realizing how boot camp can affect some people not ready for the military.
If you rewatch the movie, Rafterman starts as a photographer that gets spooked by combat. As he progresses further into film, he goes from carrying photography equipment to holding both a camera and an M16 and spouting the life as an ideal solider. Before Joker shoots the sniper, look at Rafterman's face; it's nearly identical to the face of Pvt. Pyle's and his sanity before he shoots the drill sergeant as he is the only one smiling in that situation.
I love how the theme of duality is quite literally explicitly stated in a scene, but only as an excuse used by Joker after someone points out what his helmet says compared to his peace sign pin
Gomer Pyle isn't the worst of the bunch. He most likely got drafted and in the opening scene, he seems to be gentle and innocent which brings him into conflict with Hartman who chokes Pyle simply for having a smile on his face. Pyle goes on to become a great marksman. I view the ending in which the marines sing the mickey mouse song as a metaphor of the military-industrial complex's cultural Amercanisation of South East Asia.
And Pyle is the worst, he's a shitbag it doesn't matter if he6kind or not because hes also careless and harms his fellow Marines with his carelessness and lack of giveafuck.
@@troyweatherford2428 Stanley Kubrick was VERY precise and deliberate in what he chose to present in a film. Granted, the song is just a song, but it's inclusion at the end of this film is undoubtedly purposeful. Views may vary on what Kubrick's intent was, and indeed they do.
The editing was well-done, really drives home the points you're trying to make in your analysis without being too flashy. Overall, a great essay on FMJ. Keep up the good work!
"You're more forgettable than the second half of 'Full Metal Jacket" Edit: my vietnam veteran grandfather said this was the most accurate training section of a military movie he's ever seen
I love the ending. It shows the mask that the soldiers have to put on at the end. When you’re in war your goal is to survive and to not dwell on the horrors you may have had to perform. Singing the Mickey Mouse club theme song separates the soldiers from Vietnam to a more innocent time. It’s pretty dark and genius that Kubrick decided to end it that way
If I was Joker, I would tell Hartman to punish me for Leonard’s mistakes, but to keep everyone else out of it. Hartman did assign him Joker as Leonard‘s mentor.
This video was incredible! You definitely earned a new subscriber, FMJ is one of my favourite films of all time and this analysis was one of the best that I've seen.
A Matter of Film well, I appreciate your content and superb editing. I am a video essay junkie, so this business is a dream come true. Keep it up and have a great one!
Wow! In depth on its purity! Editing on its mastery! Narration on its humanity! Video on its entirety! Genius! I could've said it better, but I just can't, and you provided more! Amazing specimen from genuine professors!
In the novel on which this movie is based - "The Short-Timers" by Gustav Hasford - the drill instructor tells Pyle he's proud of him after getting shot. Hardcore.
Well, nobody said she was innocent. She was a ruthless sniper, she had to be taken care of. Agreed. But she was also a woman and a child and this contrasts Joker's earlier views in the film. Thanks for commenting Christian!
A Matter of Film I think in a way the sniper represented who joker kinda was on the inside. The fact that it was a child trained to kill, showed the death of innocence as children are a symbolism of purity or kind innocence. By killing her, in a way it only showed even more that joker was changed forever because she was a representation of the last piece of him. He was a man who lost all innocence by killing her. I don’t think the fact that it was a moral conflict that made it hard for him, or at the very least a simple moral conflict like it was just a child but actually I think it was the fact that he saw himself in her. He saw the dead eyes that shined with the fire burning around her. And the final scenes of the soldiers marching through this fire singing a children’s song even pushes the idea further showing that it was every bit of innocence burning away. She may have been a ruthless killer but also in the same situation as joker where she was forced to become a cog in the system, and the only thing left was her adolescence, ultimately destroyed by war. But that’s just my thoughts on it.
This has to be the most high effort best edited engaging video essay I have seen thus far and I watch a lot of those on many different channels. Dang. Give yourself a raise!
What a wonderful explanation of the film. I was in the Corps and only viewed the film through my experiences. You definitely shed a new light on how to view it
I REALLY enjoy how you incorporated music while editing clips from the movie, that's pretty fucking creative. Instantly set you apart from other channels on RUclips.
Actually Pyle wasn't the "worst of the bunch" by any measure. In the original book, he ended up as the best element of the company... before killing his drill instructor.
4:23 I think anyone who has military experience would disagree with this. Joker exhibited traits Gunny Hartman wanted in his Marines: cunning, bravery, and insight. Joker not only identified Hartman's tricks, he played to them, and Hartman rewarded these traits with a command position befitting the soldier who can think for himself. Your assessment of what Hartman wants is debunked by Joker himself. "The Corps does not want robots. It wants killers. It wants men who will eat their own guts and ask for seconds"
This vid is two years old and its perfect. Its an outstanding example on how to analyze a movie and of critics and old media finally getting pushed out of the picture.
Your best friends in bootcamp aren't the ones that pull you out of the water, it's the ones who stop you from drowning but keep you in deep enough to see you struggle.
This is my first time visiting your channel and i'm already learning a lot about things I've never noticed while watching these films. Keep up the good content!
Hey! I first watched these movie 4 years ago more or less. I had only the opportunity to watch the first part and really enjoyed it. Yesterday, I watched the whole movie and it was really really interesting. Such an experience. I would like to share something that I've noticed. In the scene where Joker kills the sniper, in the beginning on the shot you can see the word kill on his helmet and the peace sign. However, slowly the peace sign starts dissapearing to the point where we cannot see it and it is at that moment, at that shot, when you can only see the word "kill" and not the peace sign when he shoots her.
This is my kind of video essay! Awesome job. I'm glad you take a critical look at Joker, who is all too often neglected in discussions on Full Metal Jacket. If I had one piece of constructive criticism, it's that the editing when you show the impact of Hartman's psychological torture on Pyle, though technically impressive, didn't really work for me. Minor point and very much a personal thing, but all the same I thought I'd give you a criticism to work with. Outside of that little nitpick, the editing here is really outstanding. The whole thing just flows beautifully.
Thanks for the video. Great film with many memorable scenes. I went through Army basic 35 years ago then served a few years in Europe. The whole thing seemed like an out of body experience that was happening to someone else. I always felt like part of me died. The innocent child in me died. Years later I had a friend who had been a Marine drill instructor. He said there was a saying. Paris Island, the jewel of the South, where little boys go to die and become resurrected as men.
Well so far i have really enjoyed the movies you have analyzied up until now. Both "The prestige" and "Prisoners" are worthy candidates IMO. If you are up for some foreign language movies I really think that "The hunt (Jagten)" is awesome. Thx for you reply.
I disagree with the assessment that killing the sniper made Joker lose his individuality. Joker maintains his individuality by mercy killing the sniper, while Animal Mother, the Ideal Marine, wishes for her to suffer a slow and painful death.
This assessment of one of Stanley Kubrick's greatest films isn't consistent with the facts and his other films. The repeated replay of in-your-face scenes confuses it. What can be said about Vietnam is true of all US wars that President Eisenhower attributed to "the industrial military complex." Kubrick took it a step further getting to the hear of the matter about the duality of man. Kubrick had studied Jung and may have been analyzed. There are Jungian themes in several of his films. But for those of us who read Kill Anything That Moves by Nick Turse about the American War in Vietnam, which came out years later, confirmed the atrocities Kubrick portrayed. This is heroic film-making when mainstream media was ignoring what returning soldiers were saying. At least Kubrick told their story.
Thank you for playing the entirety of the Marine's Hymn. As a Marine and former bandsman, my biggest pet peeve is when people cut it off short. That and the anthem.
In the book, the last thing the D.I. says before Gomer Pyle shoots him was "I'm proud of you." Full Metal Jacket was the reason I joined the Marines and the reason I started reading Jung.
purple durkle uh oh, spotted some dumbasses in the chat. Boo hoo america bad, socialism good, America enslave people (even tho Europe literally raped africa of its resources but oops can’t talk about that)
@@odsttrooper3724 socialism is for bitches and yes Europe did rape African countries and even Asian countries... 0811 artillery Camp Pendleton, Las pulgas area, usmc Sit down civilian
It's really disturbing when you brought it up: the duality of Private Pyle. Within him, the "killing machine" part that DI Hartman created was at war with the bit of "human" kept alive by Private Joker, and that conflict tore Pyle's psyche apart. He killed Hartman, then committed suicide, because it was the only thing left that he was in control of.
This is the synopsis for this film that I've been looking for. I honestly loved the second half of the movie just as much ad the first half, but seeing this brings a truly unsettling meaning to it all.
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My only complaint...Full Metal Jacket has three acts, not two: 1. Boot camp 2. The somewhat disjointed collection of scenes in Vietnam 3. The return to linear storytelling when the Lusthog squad battles the sniper Interesting bit of trivia: in each act there is a reference to Mickey Mouse (Hartman's "What is this Mickey Mouse shit?" line, a small toy Mickey seen in the building where the Stars and Stripes meeting is held, and the final scene with the singing). I always took this to mean Kubrick saw the entire American adventure in Vietnam as a "Mickey Mouse Operation.
We learned this in military intern The part in bootcamp our officer told us that "no matter waht happens if you feel bullied talk about it with a trust person"
I agree with this commentary and breakdown excluding the end (but obviously that was more of a philosophical approach to the act of killing being reborn). I think joker singing along with the troops was more of a coping mechanism to deal with what he had to do not him becoming one of the troop in a "reborn" fashion as you put. But that's obvious. I just wanted to share my thoughts.
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YES, we know it's "Disgusting Fat-body" and NOT "Disgusting fuckbody", you know...late night editing. Shit happens.
Thank you friends
Hey can you talk about another film
Taps (1981)
It has a really deep meaning
I thought it was fuck-buddy. Still funny though.
In my school band we played that hymn
Good editing but sometimes too over-the-top.
I liked what you did in the beginning, but it ia too much in the middle.
Joker did not hesitate to kill the woman. His gun jammed.
Yeah! And how is Pyle killing the drill instructor is the only part of him thats "human"? The whole video claims that becoming a killer is when you lose individuality and humanity. Very good video but a bit confused at some points.
Yeah, I had noticed that too
I believe it's still a proper analysis in terms of Jokers hesitation. Hartmann trained them to keep their shit wired tight at all times and at the moment of truth he failed. Instead of clearing the jam he fumbled around and dropped his weapon, looking inept and untrained. His instincts weren't sharp. It should have been instinctual "shit, jammed" wham bam clear it and hose her. Especially if he's approaching the hostile position I would have made sure I was locked and loaded ready to fire.
Ahmet Ertuğrul Akyol The point of the video is highlighting the conflicts within the characters. Pyles new killer instinct and his last semblance of humanity clash and culminate in the murder of Hartmann. He loathes Hartmann because of the abuse of his psyche, or humanity, and his instincts motivate him to squeeze the trigger. Pyle was defending his own humanity from being lost forever in a void of abuse, but upon the act of murder, he realizes he lost it and in that moment decides to kill himself. There's more to it then him simply going crazy or else he would have triggered joker too. Granted joker helped him but he also participated in the act of abuse that pushed Pyle over the edge, the soap scene.
Failure to perform SPORTS.
A simple yet discrete detail I liked was that "born to kill" was written on his helmet and the peace symbol was over his heart. Shows how Hartman hijacked his brain but Joker retained his heart.
Хорошее наблюдение.
Creating the duality upon his individuality.
Ironically, or intentionally, Hartman was the man who showed the least amount of heart.
Its also fitting that Kubrick's films can be watched at face value by casual moviegoers as a normal films (the shining as a horror story, full metal jacket as a war movie, etc ) or they can be completely analyzed like this and still not make any outrageous stretches...the duality of man. Amazing video, great work!
Agreed about the levels of viewing a Kubrick film. Timeless
If the shining is an horror moovi st first glance, what It is your second reading?
I can definitely agree with that about Kubrick films, but that analogy works for any film that could be called ‘a work of art’ (Kubrick films, No Country For Old Men, Apocalypse Now, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Taxi Driver). Great stories with hidden meanings, symbolism, all that good stuff in it as well. Unfortunately we haven’t had too many of those in the last decade, at least in my opinion.
mike sixx maybe she shouldn’t have been killing his fellow soldiers🤷🏼♂️
The first time I watched Full Metal Jacket I thought it was a comedy because the boot camp scenes were hilarious to me right up until the scene where Gomer Pyle gets beaten with soap bars in socks.
This movie really comes to show that ultimately we create our own demons and that we ultimately become what we hate. My uncle served in Vietnam and I know nothing about his time there. All that my dad told me was that his brother left for Vietnam and someone else came back.
Shits scary, just imagine losing yourself out there
The horror, the horror.
Sub Zero my great uncle served there too. He was 18 or a little above it, and he returned a changed man. Somehow he is one of the funniest guys I’ve ever known, but PTSD still sticks with him to this day.
That happened to a lot. They were drafted, made it through the severe behavior modification of basic/boot camp, then exposed to the horrors of war. They may be in one piece physically, but don’t expect to see that same individual again. PTSD and a TBI did a number on me as well.
And you have this movie review youtuber telling otherwise.
"I am become death" is a direct reference to Oppenheimer's statement on the successful Trinity test of the first nuclear bomb to be exploded. @5:07
Oppenheimer was Quoting the words of Krishna from bhagwat geeta and said that all of his team felt something of that sorts.
Guys, don't you think, in a paradoxical, way nuclear weapons has made humanity safer because going to war assures mutual destruction so it compels leaders to find peaceful solutions?
@Graf von Losinj do you know what far cry 5 is
B. L. The quote is
I am become death, the destroyer of worlds
@@rohandalvi6476 Yes, indeed as Krishna spoke to Prince Arjuna about the need for war and the role of the leader. What I think is so clever by Kubrick is the reference of the quote for the soldiers and war machine that don't understand the deeper meaning of the quote.
The scene where the marines sneak out of bed as they prepare to beat Pyle is arguably the most sinister for me. They look like a pack of wild animals before they hunt their prey. Very poetic when considering the dehumanization factor.
That scene made me so furious. It is such a disgusting Display of bullying I’ve ever seen
I've always hated that scene. I know Pyle messed up quite a bit but he didn't deserve that. Pretty inhumane.
when it comes to survival and instinct, humans are no different than wild beasts, regardless of gender, race, or religion. and regardless of how "moral" or "evolved'' they are
Bullying is one thing, but in a combat situation you want to be sure that the guy who holds your life in his hands can stand up to the pressure. Pyle couldn't. The problem is that he wasn't discharged from bootcamp.
Reminded me of lots of the flies
“The jungian thing, sir-“
Gets me everytime.
Yes! Joker has a novice level awareness and understanding of Jung. The Colonel's rebuttal, "Who's side are you on?" suggests the Colonel is fully aware and understanding of "the Jungian thing" but has no time or inclination to discuss it. He expects obedience. Period.
DualityofManLimited I saw it as a defense mechanism; as if he didn’t understand fully what Joker meant if at all and reverted back the authority to him.
Ikr lol
@@DualityofManLimited not really. Hes asking if hes on the hippies or right side
I always thought he said 'the onion of things' as in, the layers of an onion.
Very well done. As a veteran this explains why this movie is such a big part of military culture and a favorite amongst those who serve. We are broken down into the cogs of the big military machine from day one.
Thank you very much Michael!
Indeed
You are told you fight for freedom and democracy, yet lose all individually and agency. The military is one of the biggest scams.
The military is a sacrifice.
They make you the most efficient group machine you can possibly be to defend those ideals for civilians.
But in the pursuit of that efficiency you have to sacrifice those things yourself.
Like a parent going hungry so their child can eat.
Chase Moore too bad all those soldiers in WW2 got scammed, amirite?
Ironically it's people like Joker who actually make the best soldiers.
The military doesn’t want robots a mindless drone is good for following orders but a mindless drone needs instruction. The scene when joker is made squad leader is a good example any answer will be wrong and he will be punished more if he reverts himself. By sticking to his principles he shows the ability to think and stick to his guns a leadership trait.
“The marine corps doesn’t want robots it wants killers.”
@Iain Bailey only for enlisted different with officer
@@simonnachreiner8380 enlisted yes officer no
@Iain Bailey an jarhead who stand as an officer probably would make all platoon he held as suicide squad
issue is the 1st act starts and finishes an arc like a standalone film.
the protagonist shifts from 2 to 1, location changes, wardrobes change, characters change so relations change, situation changes means conflict changes.
jay folk Kyle's arc ended but jokers didn't
Childhood and then adulthood.
As much as childhood sucks, it’s when he had the most fun.
How's Demo doing btw?
Theoretically you could've split them into two movies and just stretched the two acts out. But I think it works better as one film. No padding and you get Jokers whole arch in one sitting
his Ustream is supposedly dead, disney didnt like him airing aladdin or lion king for free online
The suicide scene scarred me man
DEATHSTROKE621 I knew Pyle was gonna kill himself because someone spoiled it for me, but it was still hard to watch.
What is your major malfunction numbnuts? Didnt mommy and daddy give you enough attention when you were a chil- *gets blowns up*
I went to a shrink to try and put Humpty Dumpty back together. One of the best things I ever did.
You have never seen people who push others.
DEATHSTROKE621 insert some testosterone
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A Matter of Film you are such an underrated film analysis channel I really appreciate your work
A stunning review of the essence of what made this film Great. Nailed it!
This was so well done and the editing blew me away. Keep this up! It's amazing.
2:23 its "disgusting FAT BODY"
Not "disgusting FUCK BUDDY"
..............But I lol'd
Fantastic analysis👌
Something I never asked myself until my third viewing of the film is, “why exactly does Lawrence (Gomer Pyle) snap at this particular part in the movie?”
The last few scenes leading up to this point show a significant improvement in his performance compared to the first scenes with Pyle. He had graduated and as Joker said, it was their last night on Parris Island. He didn’t have to put up with most of the bullying/demeaning anymore. Sure he would have no grand time in Vietnam but if he kept performing like the last few scenes with him in Boot Camp showed, then there would be very little reason for others to demean him like Hartman had done for the past few weeks. The DI is staying in Parris Island to continue training new recruits right? Pyle only had to deal with the source of most of his turmoil for the past few weeks (Hartman) for one more night. An easy task considering he’d shaped up. Sure, Pyle was bitter about his treatment for the past few weeks but in 1 night his life was about to improve compared to how it had been lately…. Okay maybe improve isn’t the right word… he’s still being sent off to Vietnam but it seemed like he was on the right track to becoming the perfect marine, even if it did cost him is individuality, sanity, and a beating or two. Perhaps not having to deal with Hartman wasn’t enough and he felt he had to kill him. Killing Hartman was retribution for his treatment but also serves as payback for drastically turning him into what Pyle deep down really isn’t; a killer.
Regardless, there’s another theory that makes the timing of his snapping point make a bit more sense: Clearly, Lawrence was drafted. There’s no way he would have volunteered. He obviously doesn’t want to be there so he figures the best way to avoid being sent to Vietnam is to fake being unfit for service. Maybe, just maybe, his plan will work… the verbal and physical abuse he endured will be worth it if he gets sent home or reassigned. What if the real reason he snapped was because of his realization that his plan of playing a fool to get him discharged failed, he endured weeks of verbal and physical abuse all for nothing, he is still being sent off to Vietnam and most likely will die. Notice how he executes the rifle exercise flawlessly in this scene and how his performance has improved overall leading up to this scene, just as if he had dropped the act or something. I don’t know, an “if I’m going sent off to die I might as well die on my own terms and might as well take Hartman with me as payback” kind of thing
I just wanted to share this theory that kind of blew my mind (pun intended) that makes the timing of Pyle’s breakdown make more sense.
Pyle is clearly a victim of the US program "Mcnamara's Morons" were the govt lowered the standards of individuals for draft (even those with low I.Qs) in order to increase US troops reinforcements in Vietnam.
I feel like if it was his plan all along, he wouldn't have seemingly improved over time as we see in the film. It seems to take him a few days to rapidly get better, but if he was trying to be discharged you'd think he'd keep the act up until the last possible moment. but it is an interesting theory
When you achieve the goals you had set, then what? It doesn't matter if you are homeless or a CEO, then what?
He transformed into what they wanted a killer. So he killed. No going up or down the chain of life, he just remained what he became. I think it's like that because he and Joker could have been friends, but instead Joker maintained his heart, and Pyle lost his.
This whole theory ignores an entire chunk of the movie where Lawrence is inspired by famous criminal assassins and dedicates his practice to the rifle, all with the intention - over days or weeks - to kill Hartman
@@DutchKidRangerI wouldnt day he lost his heart. Just had it torn from his chest.
Despite Joker joining in heavily on the abuse, Leonard spared him. That shows heart.
He's portrayed as very sinister, but I dont know who wouldnt want to shoot Hartman after a month of what he put him through. The marines just set an example for him.
5:28 Just noticed for the first time that when he changes magazines there is still a round visible inside the one he takes out
So? Maybe he just miscounted how many he already shot
@@danielj5650 or maybe he did it to not have to cycle the gun manually.
He did it so he could bring bullets into the barracks. He was prepared to kill his Sergeant
oooh good eye man. This is Kubrick, so not unintentional. That's where he got the rounds.
nice man! u got the eye
OH MY LORD, THIS EDITING....
That nausea-induced transition that's used is so annoying.
Neoner Films it’s a bit cheesy
bip bong your cheesy now go away and don't watch it he or she did a great job on it and much better than anybody I've seen on RUclips
No offense but you've gotta watch some mediocre videos if this is the best editing you've ever seen. And don't worry, I won't be watching it a second time :)
bip bong I didn't say that...
The military haircut....also known as the "the great equalizer". Humans are visual creatures. Removing our hair removed a huge amount of of our individuality and made us look all the more alike.
This is the best analysis of this movie I have ever seen.
Thanks Coop. That means a lot.
except for the editing
Pretty Flacko the editing is fucking good are you crazy?
"Did mommy and daddy not give you enough attention when you were a child?!" - Hartman
Mommy = Joker
Daddy = Hartman
@Nic Rock His mother should've given him head to soothe his pain instead.
Hartman and Joker would have a weird marriage.
@@localshithead7430 The domestic abuse fits.
I remember a friend and I was watching this move for the first time and in the movie. Both of us was laughing at Private Pyle until the part he committed suicide...after that we remained quiet the whole rest of the movie...realizing how boot camp can affect some people not ready for the military.
no one’s ever ready for the military
If you rewatch the movie, Rafterman starts as a photographer that gets spooked by combat. As he progresses further into film, he goes from carrying photography equipment to holding both a camera and an M16 and spouting the life as an ideal solider. Before Joker shoots the sniper, look at Rafterman's face; it's nearly identical to the face of Pvt. Pyle's and his sanity before he shoots the drill sergeant as he is the only one smiling in that situation.
you gotta chill out with the editing my dude
I have nothing to complain on about the editing, and i dont see why would you?
Žandar Žandarević because it’s corny and over the top, the effects and transitions are off-putting and distracting, it takes away from the video
Carrot Cake yeah, if you're easily distracted
@@Trve_Kvlt No he's right
This guy edits like it's aired on american network tv.
I always love how the weapon they train on "This weapon of wood, and iron" R.L.E., referring to the m14. When they get to Vietnam, everyone has m16s.
I love how the theme of duality is quite literally explicitly stated in a scene, but only as an excuse used by Joker after someone points out what his helmet says compared to his peace sign pin
Now this is some of the strangest editing I've ever seen and I've seen the hulk movie!
Lol
I like it
it'd corny in a movie but somehow works
You deserve a million subscribers. This is an amazing masterpiece!
Someday we'll get there. Thank you so much Elias!
A Matter of Film I also like how you're very active replying to your fans and your community. Keep it up!
You guys are the reason we make these videos in the first place :) cheers brother.
A Matter of Film cheers! With respect.
you're a beast mate, keep doing what your're doing, you have some of the best video essays on RUclips.
Thanks, man. I like your channel as well. You definitely deserve more views. Keep it up!
dude. how come you only have 8k subs?!
We started uploading just this year! Glad you lke the content :)!
he has 17k now
Riley Caton well that was fast.
A Matter of Film well just keep doing what your doing now. Being a good RUclipsr putting out good content.
42k now
Gomer Pyle isn't the worst of the bunch. He most likely got drafted and in the opening scene, he seems to be gentle and innocent which brings him into conflict with Hartman who chokes Pyle simply for having a smile on his face. Pyle goes on to become a great marksman. I view the ending in which the marines sing the mickey mouse song as a metaphor of the military-industrial complex's cultural Amercanisation of South East Asia.
It's just a song, it's not that deep
And Pyle is the worst, he's a shitbag it doesn't matter if he6kind or not because hes also careless and harms his fellow Marines with his carelessness and lack of giveafuck.
@@troyweatherford2428 Stanley Kubrick was VERY precise and deliberate in what he chose to present in a film. Granted, the song is just a song, but it's inclusion at the end of this film is undoubtedly purposeful. Views may vary on what Kubrick's intent was, and indeed they do.
@@DualityofManLimited it's probably intended to show an actual song that soldiers in Vietnam (and today) sang.
@@troyweatherford2428 so your talking about yourself I see. Well it's not my fault your a shitbag.
Joker: *Persona!*
Pvt.Joker: "The Jungian thing sir"
The editing was well-done, really drives home the points you're trying to make in your analysis without being too flashy. Overall, a great essay on FMJ. Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much, Spike!
I think my favorite part of the editing is from 1:10 - 1:14
Awesome Earl! That's my favorite bit too!
The reason I like it is the combination of the music and the segments from the film
I like the editing too. very spot on
This editing is orgasmic.
Thank you very much shaumer Rikk.
Dang if only my old high school essays were this good 😂
3:05 I started dying because of how funny this was😂😂
0:44 amazing editing and I love that you made a beat remix with Hartmann's voice just to go along with the video
"You're more forgettable than the second half of 'Full Metal Jacket"
Edit: my vietnam veteran grandfather said this was the most accurate training section of a military movie he's ever seen
You should do a video on Apocalypse Now! There's a lot to digest in that one.
That's a video that's definitely coming up!
@@AMatterofFilm this is the end my only friend the END
@wavygr there is more.to it than that. Including Kurtz himself.
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I love the ending. It shows the mask that the soldiers have to put on at the end. When you’re in war your goal is to survive and to not dwell on the horrors you may have had to perform. Singing the Mickey Mouse club theme song separates the soldiers from Vietnam to a more innocent time. It’s pretty dark and genius that Kubrick decided to end it that way
If I was Joker, I would tell Hartman to punish me for Leonard’s mistakes, but to keep everyone else out of it. Hartman did assign him Joker as Leonard‘s mentor.
This video was incredible! You definitely earned a new subscriber, FMJ is one of my favourite films of all time and this analysis was one of the best that I've seen.
Thank you so much Elizabeth! Welcome to the channel :)
This is good but Rob Ager's analysis of this film is way better and much more deep.
This channel is the most painfully underrated thing I've ever seen. Good shit my friend.
We appreciate that, my friend. Thank you!
A Matter of Film well, I appreciate your content and superb editing. I am a video essay junkie, so this business is a dream come true. Keep it up and have a great one!
Really good video. There’s really no other way to put it. Great editing, visuals, music remixes, and overall message and analysis. Keep it up man.
Wow! In depth on its purity! Editing on its mastery! Narration on its humanity! Video on its entirety! Genius! I could've said it better, but I just can't, and you provided more! Amazing specimen from genuine professors!
Wow, your editing style and choice of music really sends the message you’re trying to give. I also learned a lot about pvt pyle.
In the novel on which this movie is based - "The Short-Timers" by Gustav Hasford - the drill instructor tells Pyle he's proud of him after getting shot. Hardcore.
I disagree with you:
The woman Joker failed to kill was not an innocent child but a ruthless sniper who had to be taken care of.
Well, nobody said she was innocent. She was a ruthless sniper, she had to be taken care of. Agreed. But she was also a woman and a child and this contrasts Joker's earlier views in the film. Thanks for commenting Christian!
A Matter of Film I think in a way the sniper represented who joker kinda was on the inside. The fact that it was a child trained to kill, showed the death of innocence as children are a symbolism of purity or kind innocence. By killing her, in a way it only showed even more that joker was changed forever because she was a representation of the last piece of him. He was a man who lost all innocence by killing her. I don’t think the fact that it was a moral conflict that made it hard for him, or at the very least a simple moral conflict like it was just a child but actually I think it was the fact that he saw himself in her. He saw the dead eyes that shined with the fire burning around her. And the final scenes of the soldiers marching through this fire singing a children’s song even pushes the idea further showing that it was every bit of innocence burning away. She may have been a ruthless killer but also in the same situation as joker where she was forced to become a cog in the system, and the only thing left was her adolescence, ultimately destroyed by war. But that’s just my thoughts on it.
if it's red then let's make it dead
commies don't get daddy's cummies
better dead than red
She was defending her country
Isn’t that against some Geneva convention rule
the quality of editing is beyond hard work. amazing content.
This has to be the most high effort best edited engaging video essay I have seen thus far and I watch a lot of those on many different channels. Dang. Give yourself a raise!
What a wonderful explanation of the film. I was in the Corps and only viewed the film through my experiences. You definitely shed a new light on how to view it
amazing video i never thought to look at the movie like that and since you explained it i see it in a completely different way
That's what it's all about. Thanks Alex!
My friend shows me this movie and I fell in love with it every time I went to his house we would watch full metal jacket
I REALLY enjoy how you incorporated music while editing clips from the movie, that's pretty fucking creative. Instantly set you apart from other channels on RUclips.
Actually Pyle wasn't the "worst of the bunch" by any measure. In the original book, he ended up as the best element of the company... before killing his drill instructor.
Beautiful analysis of the movie!!! Keep up the good work
Thank you Federico!
These are so well produced. Keep it up bro!
Thanks so much bro!
Amazing video man! Keep making more! I don’t understand how you don’t have more subs
6:42 the m16 actually was known for "jamming at the worst time" his killer instincts were caught off guard by this though
4:23 I think anyone who has military experience would disagree with this. Joker exhibited traits Gunny Hartman wanted in his Marines: cunning, bravery, and insight. Joker not only identified Hartman's tricks, he played to them, and Hartman rewarded these traits with a command position befitting the soldier who can think for himself. Your assessment of what Hartman wants is debunked by Joker himself. "The Corps does not want robots. It wants killers. It wants men who will eat their own guts and ask for seconds"
That was some of the best video editing I've ever seen! Almost as if you were showing flashbacks of Pyle and Joker having ptsd or something!
I actually really love the second half. That’s my opinion anyway I think it’s a great film overall.
You're my new favourite RUclipsr.
That means a lot! Thank you.
This vid is two years old and its perfect. Its an outstanding example on how to analyze a movie and of critics and old media finally getting pushed out of the picture.
Your best friends in bootcamp aren't the ones that pull you out of the water, it's the ones who stop you from drowning but keep you in deep enough to see you struggle.
Editing masterpiece
Thank you very much Mr Noncredible!
WOW... Ive never seen a breakdown quite like this one bro..... Well done... well done.
This is my first time visiting your channel and i'm already learning a lot about things I've never noticed while watching these films. Keep up the good content!
*_"THE DUALITY OF MAN"_* has now in itself become iconic in the meta world of film revision XD
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Can we take a moment to realize how well this video is put together?
One of my all time favourite films, great analysis, editing and narration, can't wait to see what you'll analyse next, looking forward to it.
It's a great movie! Thanks Callum. Stay tuned for Monday's new video and our 10k Subs Surprise!
Hey! I first watched these movie 4 years ago more or less. I had only the opportunity to watch the first part and really enjoyed it. Yesterday, I watched the whole movie and it was really really interesting. Such an experience. I would like to share something that I've noticed. In the scene where Joker kills the sniper, in the beginning on the shot you can see the word kill on his helmet and the peace sign. However, slowly the peace sign starts dissapearing to the point where we cannot see it and it is at that moment, at that shot, when you can only see the word "kill" and not the peace sign when he shoots her.
What an awesome analysis! Very simple yet offers deep insights!
Thanks Gino!
“To rise above monsters, we have to abandon our humanity. What we fight we become, Fire with fire”
lmao i didn't expect a attack on titan quote here.
@@paweldziuba4344 but its always good to have one
What monsters were they fighting?
Top-notch editing. ❤❤
Excellent editing and narration. Nothing like a good video for the eyes and ears! Keep it up
That means a lot Andre, thank you!
This is my kind of video essay! Awesome job. I'm glad you take a critical look at Joker, who is all too often neglected in discussions on Full Metal Jacket. If I had one piece of constructive criticism, it's that the editing when you show the impact of Hartman's psychological torture on Pyle, though technically impressive, didn't really work for me. Minor point and very much a personal thing, but all the same I thought I'd give you a criticism to work with. Outside of that little nitpick, the editing here is really outstanding. The whole thing just flows beautifully.
Hey Daniel! It was definitely experimental, so thanks for the constructive feedback :) Glad you enjoyed the video.
I jumped for this one. Love Kubrick, and you did him justice.
Thanks for the video. Great film with many memorable scenes. I went through Army basic 35 years ago then served a few years in Europe. The whole thing seemed like an out of body experience that was happening to someone else. I always felt like part of me died. The innocent child in me died. Years later I had a friend who had been a Marine drill instructor. He said there was a saying. Paris Island, the jewel of the South, where little boys go to die and become resurrected as men.
Dayyymn. Your editing is on freaking point! Keep it up! This is so awesome.
Thank you Niels! Stay tuned for new videos every Friday! Any movie you'd like us to talk about?
Well so far i have really enjoyed the movies you have analyzied up until now. Both "The prestige" and "Prisoners" are worthy candidates IMO. If you are up for some foreign language movies I really think that "The hunt (Jagten)" is awesome. Thx for you reply.
I disagree with the assessment that killing the sniper made Joker lose his individuality. Joker maintains his individuality by mercy killing the sniper, while Animal Mother, the Ideal Marine, wishes for her to suffer a slow and painful death.
This assessment of one of Stanley Kubrick's greatest films isn't consistent with the facts and his other films. The repeated replay of in-your-face scenes confuses it.
What can be said about Vietnam is true of all US wars that President Eisenhower attributed to "the industrial military complex." Kubrick took it a step further getting to
the hear of the matter about the duality of man. Kubrick had studied Jung and may have been analyzed. There are Jungian themes in several of his films. But for those
of us who read Kill Anything That Moves by Nick Turse about the American War in Vietnam, which came out years later, confirmed the atrocities Kubrick portrayed. This
is heroic film-making when mainstream media was ignoring what returning soldiers were saying. At least Kubrick told their story.
Thank you for playing the entirety of the Marine's Hymn. As a Marine and former bandsman, my biggest pet peeve is when people cut it off short. That and the anthem.
I bet the actors had a real fun time during “this is my rifle” part.
You know now that I watched this video, it just made me realize how dark of a movie full metal jacket really is.
Revisiting this video for the 10th time this year. This is no doubt one of the best movie analyses I've ever seen on any channels.
In the book, the last thing the D.I. says before Gomer Pyle shoots him was "I'm proud of you."
Full Metal Jacket was the reason I joined the Marines and the reason I started reading Jung.
So you joined the military because of a movie...interesting
@@deeznutz4505 Yea americans are really prone to propaganda.
@@user-zg5ey5xo9i they'll believe anything lol
purple durkle uh oh, spotted some dumbasses in the chat. Boo hoo america bad, socialism good, America enslave people (even tho Europe literally raped africa of its resources but oops can’t talk about that)
@@odsttrooper3724 socialism is for bitches and yes Europe did rape African countries and even Asian countries...
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I actually like the second half more
seriously
It's just so cool
me
1 out of 10000
me too man
Wow you are so special and unique
I liked the second half better too, but I'm also a fan of abandoned industrial-scapes , and the second half plays right into that.
Really well done and interesting video. You should definitely continue making these film analysis videos.
Thanks so much Ben! We love doing these.
3:04 When I'm sad and remember all the times my mom got mad at me
It's really disturbing when you brought it up: the duality of Private Pyle. Within him, the "killing machine" part that DI Hartman created was at war with the bit of "human" kept alive by Private Joker, and that conflict tore Pyle's psyche apart. He killed Hartman, then committed suicide, because it was the only thing left that he was in control of.
Joker's killer's instinct didn't fail, his weapon got jammed, that used to happen a lot with M16's in Vietnam
And the M16a1 fixed those issues. That looks like an A1 to me
Lol just watched it again on Netflix
Alexander Orozco Same. I got this recommended without ever looking up anything about FMJ on RUclips or google 🤔
Raziuh hope you watched it son. I know I’m about to.
Ti ko Oh yeah I saw it on Netflix, but before that I never looked anything up about it
In all honesty, the disses fished out by the D.I. were some of the best roasts I’d ever hear in a movie
It isnt on Netflix
This is the synopsis for this film that I've been looking for. I honestly loved the second half of the movie just as much ad the first half, but seeing this brings a truly unsettling meaning to it all.
Thank you!
This video was recommended to me by RUclips.
You just earned a sub my friend. Outstanding analysis of one of my favorite movies. You’re doing God’s work
My only complaint...Full Metal Jacket has three acts, not two:
1. Boot camp
2. The somewhat disjointed collection of scenes in Vietnam
3. The return to linear storytelling when the Lusthog squad battles the sniper
Interesting bit of trivia: in each act there is a reference to Mickey Mouse (Hartman's "What is this Mickey Mouse shit?" line, a small toy Mickey seen in the building where the Stars and Stripes meeting is held, and the final scene with the singing). I always took this to mean Kubrick saw the entire American adventure in Vietnam as a "Mickey Mouse Operation.
We learned this in military intern
The part in bootcamp our officer told us that "no matter waht happens if you feel bullied talk about it with a trust person"
Your channel is gold and your editing a masterpiece. I'm a part of it now.
Welcome to the family! Thank you!
Nice little video to watch before I go to bootcamp on Monday
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good luck my dude,hope all goes
Just watched this film a couple of days ago. Great analysis.
Great 8 minute piece on this film - just the right length to get your point across.
I agree with this commentary and breakdown excluding the end (but obviously that was more of a philosophical approach to the act of killing being reborn).
I think joker singing along with the troops was more of a coping mechanism to deal with what he had to do not him becoming one of the troop in a "reborn" fashion as you put.
But that's obvious. I just wanted to share my thoughts.
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Simply Outstanding sir Thank you very much, you Flawlessly Presented an immaculate review of a "DOCUMENTARY" type of Vietnam War Movie.
I can't begin to express to you how Important this Film is to me and the type of VALIDATION it gives me. NOBODY not even my own Parents, Believed me when I told them about what I saw at Parris Island. Shortly after I showed this Film to the both of them they Immediately started to understand why I still wake up at 04:00 every night and freak the hell out.