Innocence exists only in the beginning After all the troubles threatening events Problems surpassed and betrayal of trust you will definitely become brave wiser and take the necessary precautions to protect oneself from all 😈 evil
@Leo Suleiman was 26 when he got the throne also despite the shows attempts to butcher his character he was considered a genius in real life that wasn’t manipulated by Hurrem like the show showed
While I can understand that Ahmed didn't like when they make things behind this back , I was come one guy , you can't be innocent in this palace ( except if you want to die) especially when she first din't want to come in the palace and was kidnapped
@@icechoc Your right he didn't have her kidnapped, but he did still keep her as a slave and concubine. She didn't really have a say in weather or not she married him. Also historically he kept an active heram that's one of the things that make Suleiman and Hurrem a better relationship to me. Suleiman closed down his heram years before he married Hurrem.
Expecting someone to remain pure and innocent in a place where betrayal and lies are just around the corner is like expecting someone to walk through a filthy pig sty while wearing white and coming out of there squeaky clean. I mean really, how stupid and unrealistic can someone be? 🙄🤦🏻♀️
I might not live in Palace of gems, but my husband never left my side during each of the labors of our children. He was doing pain relief therapy that research has shown significantly reduces contractions' intensity and shortens the labor. My husband was there through it all. I feel so sorry for Kosem. She deserves a much better man. If I were her I would seriously consider escaping the palace because my son has a high probability to die within the horrific political atmosphere.
How can Ahmed treat her that way, couldnt he listen to her earlier? In the end she told him the truth , which is good, then she had to go back to her room and leave Ahmed with the guilt.
She was such a big snake that Ahmed didn't want to lose. He knew that she will destroy everyone and everything. Safiye, Hümaşah, Iskender, Halime, Osman, Murad - everyone was drstroyed by her
Omg these sultans are so selfish and arrogant. "yes what if u risked ur life to save me and the dynasty, and what if ur dad died? U hurt me by doing whatever is necessary to save the empire. What about me huh?" Men☕☕
Oh, ok! Now she was able tell him every thing clear than before . But, How could she talk to him before if when she tried to do it, he just looks to her using so angry face toward her and saying " I don't want see you any more" ?? How could she talk to him if he did not want to hear anything before???? I still think she should do before the same she did right now when he asked her to leave, but before to leave she talk even whitout permission.
I don't believe how much unfar Ahmed Sultan was to Anastasia (now kosem) . This man do not know what is love someone. Actually he does not love any girl. This is not love. And he is being só ungratefull to kosem, she saved all Palace, she was so brave and gave up about to scape Only for loving Ahmed Sultan, she came back to the Palace Only for Ahmed Sultan and she was the only one who suport him. He is so unfar to her😮😢😢😢😡😤😡😡😡
Sad but true. Seems the same for all the sultans though - Sullieyman was unfair to Mahideverhan & sometimes to Hurrem, Murad was unfair to both Ayse & Farya & Ibrahim was argubly unfair to Turhan. I had the impression though that Prince Mustapha or Prince Bayezid in the original MC may have been different if they had become sultan
Oh my god! 🤦♀️ she should not ask forgive , she did not anything bad about him. He is beeing rude, he is the one who should ask some forgive to her. He really should recognize and to be proud of her about all she did for him and for all his people. She needs to leave this place and teach him a lesson instead send jasmim flowers with a forgive letter 🤔😤🤦♀️, that is what he needs!
Don’t know much about Turkish history but this show keeps turning up in my timeline. I have watched lots of videos. It looks very good, better if you understood Turkish. Just something I noticed. It’s always the same two guys standing at the doorways. Doesn’t matter which doorway, what episode, different times. Same two guys. 😀😀
Here is a Turkish. I think the translation is still missing some points. Some old Turkish words are used in conversations, I am not entirely sure how it’s reflected in English translation. I also understand it’s hard to translate some Turkish phrases because there is no equivalent phrase in English. Luckily they are really great actors and actresses. They reflect the emotions very well
The difference between Hurrem and Kosem is that Kosem truly loved Ahmed and her children and wasn't power hungry and had almost no one by her side while she fought some troubles . While Hurrem was hungry for power and pure evil and never loved Suleiman and her children truly but she loved his power and always had Sumbul , Suleiman, Gul Aga, Gulnihal, Nigar and Daye Hatun by her side and she didn't fought alone like Kosem . Kosem was just broken while Hurrem was pure evil . So Kosem was more stronger and more powerful than Hurrem. These are some of the differences between Valide Kosem Sultan and Hurrem Hatun.
Yeah I'm totally agree with you.This is the deepest truth which no one noticed & everyone think that Hurrem was more stronger than Kosem while the actual truth is different..
I really dislike Hurrem until season 4 in the original MC. But Hurrem redeems herself quite a lot when near the end of her life she goes to Ibrahim Pargali's grave to make peace with him & she asks Mahiderveran for her forgiveness & they then forgive & bless each other - which is a really great scene. Whereas Kosem loses her innocence & mercy quite early, & then (like Safiye) she starts to enjoy the power & adoration & to become quite ruthless. Then by mid season 2, Kosem become evil & more power hungry but this seems mainly due to Murad hurting her by locking up Kasim, causing Geverhan's death, ordering Ayse's execution (without telling Kosem) which leads to the deaths of Kosem's grandchildren and then by changing the succession laws which Kosem knows will cause the deaths of Kasim, Ibrahim & one of Murad's baby princes with Farya. I think Kosem crosses the line & becomes evil when she has Farya & Silahatar murdered, becomes even more evil when she has Ibrahim murdered and she becomes irredeemably evil when she tries to poison sultan Mehmet her 8 year old grandson & she murders Lalezar Kalfa. Whereas Hurrem would not have murdered any of them (well maybe Silahatar). And unlike Hurrem, Kosem remains in denial about her own crimes to the end of her life & sadly never has a redeeming redefining moment like Hurrem shares with Mahideverhan. A difference may be that Hurrem & Mahideverhan are not related and they have a genuine e rivalry over an existential issue whereas Kosem's enemies end up being her own children, loved ones and family members - and much of that enmity could have been avoided.
Its "haseki hurrem Sultana" (the first haseki of ottoman empire) not hurrem hatun !!!!!..they were great according to their respective era..you can't judge them by a show we don't know how the real things were...but what we know is.. they both were great Sultana.. respect them.
@@iconicsolos1234EXACTLY I PERSONALLY LIKED HER TOO BUT I THINK EVERY ACTRESS SUITED THEIR TIME, ANASTASIA AS THE YOUNGER TEENAGE ONE, BEREN AS A MATURED ONE , AND NURGUL AS OLDER KOSEM SULTAN
Freaking narcissist Ahmed. That’s not love. The God you serve is not love itself. Jesus is Lord and God is love. He died for us while we were still sinner. You turned from you beloved wife for something you’re not happy about, without her you’re dead man. Human’s love is hilarious.
he can’t expect her to remain innocent in a place as corrupted and dangerous as the palace.
Innocence exists only in the beginning
After all the troubles
threatening events
Problems surpassed and betrayal of trust
you will definitely become brave
wiser and take the necessary precautions to protect oneself from all 😈 evil
I still laugh at TV Birth scenes, hair in place , not a drop of sweat etc. I looked like I had been dragged through a hedge etc 😂
I guess the irony is that this comment was written 9 months ago!!!
Nope it's 1 year 😂@@nokwandadlamini1703
Not only that after giving birth they are normal.
Ahmed: do you work things behind my back?
Kosem: No I save your dynasty from your incompetent hand’s every day just like with our sons in the future
Hahaha
@Leo well to be fair Ahmed is still in his teens here of course he will a bit immature
@Leo Suleiman was 26 when he got the throne also despite the shows attempts to butcher his character he was considered a genius in real life that wasn’t manipulated by Hurrem like the show showed
@@jasonadersonwedion9874 wasn't he in his 20s there?
Aaadnki😅❤
While I can understand that Ahmed didn't like when they make things behind this back , I was come one guy , you can't be innocent in this palace ( except if you want to die) especially when she first din't want to come in the palace and was kidnapped
Ahmed dear you know you can't expect someone to keep innocent whom you abducted from her family, her land.... Her home... Her own free life
So true 💀
He is listening to you in his grave
I think the show would have been better if they had written it as Kosem not loving Ahmed but her children and the people.
@CrimsonAngelWinges - but she did love him? She literally married him. Also, Ahmed wasn't the one to abduct her but Safiye Sultan.
@@icechoc Your right he didn't have her kidnapped, but he did still keep her as a slave and concubine. She didn't really have a say in weather or not she married him. Also historically he kept an active heram that's one of the things that make Suleiman and Hurrem a better relationship to me. Suleiman closed down his heram years before he married Hurrem.
Chennet knows everything that he can’t live without you😅
Expecting someone to remain pure and innocent in a place where betrayal and lies are just around the corner is like expecting someone to walk through a filthy pig sty while wearing white and coming out of there squeaky clean. I mean really, how stupid and unrealistic can someone be? 🙄🤦🏻♀️
I might not live in Palace of gems, but my husband never left my side during each of the labors of our children. He was doing pain relief therapy that research has shown significantly reduces contractions' intensity and shortens the labor. My husband was there through it all. I feel so sorry for Kosem. She deserves a much better man.
If I were her I would seriously consider escaping the palace because my son has a high probability to die within the horrific political atmosphere.
It was weird how Kosem Sultan didn't like anyone else except Ahmed, and nobody in power liked her. They should've respected her at least.
Listening "Kosem Hatun" Is too strange after you had watched the whole series
I still miss the original Kosem
They should have at least tried to make their hair similar. It was such an awkward transition. 😅
Absolutely, in fact the old kosem is the worst.. talking without opening her mouth well, it kills me.. hahahaha
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How’s she supposed to stay innocent in an environment that forces her to mature to survive in?
I do not believe he spent 9 months without talk to her 😡! Definitly she must ignore him.
He must have been busy talking to other concubines😊
How many are they
increasing in numbers daily 😮
Allah give more power to Sultan Ahmet 💪
@Deexhabecause she was getting involved in palace drama behind his back. She found out about safiyes daughters betrayal
Ahmed and kosem deserve each other
Nobody can be compared with Suleiman & Hurrem...They are not acted merely..they lived as the character ..❤Magnificent Century the mass ...unparalleled
100% magnificent century was best❤
How can Ahmed treat her that way, couldnt he listen to her earlier? In the end she told him the truth , which is good, then she had to go back to her room and leave Ahmed with the guilt.
Well he got what he deserved, guilt is a great punishment😂
She was such a big snake that Ahmed didn't want to lose. He knew that she will destroy everyone and everything. Safiye, Hümaşah, Iskender, Halime, Osman, Murad - everyone was drstroyed by her
No she wasn't
@@MrA1R1S that's not true
@@ΔημΣΚ for you not. But for the historians it is
Omg these sultans are so selfish and arrogant. "yes what if u risked ur life to save me and the dynasty, and what if ur dad died? U hurt me by doing whatever is necessary to save the empire. What about me huh?" Men☕☕
I wish she would have escaped. He doesn't deserve her. He would be dead without her.
26:47 kosem sultan reminds to mahfiruze hatun what hurrem sultan did :))) her ultimate victory over mahidevran and Mustafa
@@CadwallonMawr yeah but Selim was Hurrem sultana prince. She won. So did kosem sultan. Kosem sultan had powerful allies on her side
In the end Kosem did end up becoming the mother of Osman and loving him just as much as her own sons, so it didn't matter
@@fortheloveofcats2462 yes
27:10 exactly. That's why hurrem sultana won, it was easier, because she was far stronger than mahidevil
Oh, ok! Now she was able tell him every thing clear than before . But, How could she talk to him before if when she tried to do it, he just looks to her using so angry face toward her and saying " I don't want see you any more" ?? How could she talk to him if he did not want to hear anything before???? I still think she should do before the same she did right now when he asked her to leave, but before to leave she talk even whitout permission.
I don't believe how much unfar Ahmed Sultan was to Anastasia (now kosem) . This man do not know what is love someone. Actually he does not love any girl. This is not love. And he is being só ungratefull to kosem, she saved all Palace, she was so brave and gave up about to scape Only for loving Ahmed Sultan, she came back to the Palace Only for Ahmed Sultan and she was the only one who suport him. He is so unfar to her😮😢😢😢😡😤😡😡😡
Sad but true. Seems the same for all the sultans though - Sullieyman was unfair to Mahideverhan & sometimes to Hurrem, Murad was unfair to both Ayse & Farya & Ibrahim was argubly unfair to Turhan. I had the impression though that Prince Mustapha or Prince Bayezid in the original MC may have been different if they had become sultan
I think he wanted her to come to him first, otherwise in his eyes its a type of betrayal bc its done behind his back
10:36 gives Fatmagul vibes 😅.. Fatmagul n Mukkadas 😂😂
She saved lives and he treat her like a prostitute??!
I hate that.
Where did Anastasia go?
21:12 isn't his great grandfather selim?
Yup
Kosem had no stomach during pregnancy. None whatsoever.
The color of her dress changed 😂😂😂
Oh my god! 🤦♀️ she should not ask forgive , she did not anything bad about him. He is beeing rude, he is the one who should ask some forgive to her. He really should recognize and to be proud of her about all she did for him and for all his people. She needs to leave this place and teach him a lesson instead send jasmim flowers with a forgive letter 🤔😤🤦♀️, that is what he needs!
Don’t know much about Turkish history but this show keeps turning up in my timeline. I have watched lots of videos. It looks very good, better if you understood Turkish. Just something I noticed. It’s always the same two guys standing at the doorways. Doesn’t matter which doorway, what episode, different times. Same two guys. 😀😀
Here is a Turkish. I think the translation is still missing some points. Some old Turkish words are used in conversations, I am not entirely sure how it’s reflected in English translation. I also understand it’s hard to translate some Turkish phrases because there is no equivalent phrase in English. Luckily they are really great actors and actresses. They reflect the emotions very well
Farhiye was provoked Ahmed sultan knows nothing of love he should not treat Farhiye like an object he could have let her leave with Mehmet Giray
It very confusing 😢😢😢
Where are d old cast
I love this epi
Kösem is the best 🤩just like Hürrem
what is this ep?
❤ sultan kosema 🦋
Long live Hurrem sultan , long live kosem sultan
I miss d previous ahmed
He was angry just to be angry. The entire pregnancy he didn't speak to her. Smh
You cant be naive and expect you and your kids to live. The women were more cunning than the men!
Apakah Mahfiruz juga ganti
It was not ahmed that abducted kosem it was sultana safiye she gave the order
Now chew on that one Ahmed.
The difference between Hurrem and Kosem is that Kosem truly loved Ahmed and her children and wasn't power hungry and had almost no one by her side while she fought some troubles . While Hurrem was hungry for power and pure evil and never loved Suleiman and her children truly but she loved his power and always had Sumbul , Suleiman, Gul Aga, Gulnihal, Nigar and Daye Hatun by her side and she didn't fought alone like Kosem . Kosem was just broken while Hurrem was pure evil . So Kosem was more stronger and more powerful than Hurrem. These are some of the differences between Valide Kosem Sultan and Hurrem Hatun.
Yeah I'm totally agree with you.This is the deepest truth which no one noticed & everyone think that Hurrem was more stronger than Kosem while the actual truth is different..
@@cherubiry true
I really dislike Hurrem until season 4 in the original MC. But Hurrem redeems herself quite a lot when near the end of her life she goes to Ibrahim Pargali's grave to make peace with him & she asks Mahiderveran for her forgiveness & they then forgive & bless each other - which is a really great scene. Whereas Kosem loses her innocence & mercy quite early, & then (like Safiye) she starts to enjoy the power & adoration & to become quite ruthless. Then by mid season 2, Kosem become evil & more power hungry but this seems mainly due to Murad hurting her by locking up Kasim, causing Geverhan's death, ordering Ayse's execution (without telling Kosem) which leads to the deaths of Kosem's grandchildren and then by changing the succession laws which Kosem knows will cause the deaths of Kasim, Ibrahim & one of Murad's baby princes with Farya. I think Kosem crosses the line & becomes evil when she has Farya & Silahatar murdered, becomes even more evil when she has Ibrahim murdered and she becomes irredeemably evil when she tries to poison sultan Mehmet her 8 year old grandson & she murders Lalezar Kalfa. Whereas Hurrem would not have murdered any of them (well maybe Silahatar). And unlike Hurrem, Kosem remains in denial about her own crimes to the end of her life & sadly never has a redeeming redefining moment like Hurrem shares with Mahideverhan. A difference may be that Hurrem & Mahideverhan are not related and they have a genuine e rivalry over an existential issue whereas Kosem's enemies end up being her own children, loved ones and family members - and much of that enmity could have been avoided.
True
Its "haseki hurrem Sultana" (the first haseki of ottoman empire) not hurrem hatun !!!!!..they were great according to their respective era..you can't judge them by a show we don't know how the real things were...but what we know is.. they both were great Sultana.. respect them.
She just isn't as good an actress for this series as Anastasia was.
Lmao beren suits kosem more than anastasia and nurgul
Nah@@iconicsolos1234
@@iconicsolos1234EXACTLY I PERSONALLY LIKED HER TOO
BUT I THINK EVERY ACTRESS SUITED THEIR TIME, ANASTASIA AS THE YOUNGER TEENAGE ONE, BEREN AS A MATURED ONE , AND NURGUL AS OLDER KOSEM SULTAN
Exactly. The director made a bad decision by replacing Anastasia. King is not getting that vibe to treat her replacement well 😂
All Mehmet’s fate are so sad
WhAT A fake birth scene
Right? Not a hair out of place, not a drop of sweat, no redness...
And the midwife...
Only Allah can change destiny!
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
When the kingdom thingking for people's welfare?
Tbh hated mahifirusa
She hooked up when th a punk
Bad husband
Bad king
Bad kingdom
Freaking narcissist Ahmed. That’s not love. The God you serve is not love itself. Jesus is Lord and God is love.
He died for us while we were still sinner. You turned from you beloved wife for something you’re not happy about, without her you’re dead man. Human’s love is hilarious.