Ancient Greek religion, spread and decline
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2020
- Ancient Greek religion, spread and decline, Minoan Religion, Proto-Greek religion, Cult of Dionysus, Mycenaean religion, Twelve Olympians, Orphism, Hellenistic religion, Hermeticism
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imagine meeting that one dude in 8th century greece who believes in zeus
Christianity mis-interpreted what ancient greco-roman gods were.
And we live today with that mis-interpretation, which is why we think it's ridiculous. Because we don't understand what a god even was to the ancients.
Zeus was nothing more than empirically observable forces of nature.
Imagine meeting that one dude in a couple centuries from now who believes in any God.
@@jeupater1429 In any case, the concept of the Christian God actually existing is to me as ridiculous, and certainly more detrimental to society, culture, etc.
Atheism is cringe
@@jeupater1429 That's where the difference between Christianity and paganism stands. Pagans worship the creation while Christians worship the Creator. Shalom.
Last Hellenic pagans lived in rural around the mountains near Sparta, Greece before 800s AD. They did not accept to conversion for Greek Christianity.
True paganoi lol
Their loss, Orthodoxy is pretty based
@@wu3544 Neo-paganism is anachronistic cringe that has nothing to do with the original pagans though
@@prydain4131 All Paganism is cringe and falsity
@@CobraRedstone Haha, sure I agree.
My point is that the actual original ones had it passed on to them by their parents and reinforced by their society, so at least had the excuse of never having known anything else. Paganism was an interesting thing with fascinating beliefs and legends. Neo-pagans are a whole different breed of cringe.
Cult of Dionysus actually has 1 follower today. His name is Darek Hoffman and he lives in Poland.
Scifun?
Wtf
Modern pagans are all just larpers there's no way they actually believe it
Edit: I am referencing European/Mediterranean paganism here, I am aware that hinduism, Indian paganism, exists.
@@stackk.113 *Płaskoziemcy mieli rację!*
@@henrylansing9734 yepp. Mostly. Expect india I guess.
Glad to see you didn't equate the Roman Religion with the Greek Religion.
People often mistakenly believe that the Roman Religion came from the Greeks, it didn't.
Instead they share a common ancestral PIE religion.
Afterwards they then cross influenced each other.
romans adopted the greek religion. but romans had their own deities.
@@nurval1093 Uh no, Romans did not adopt the Greek religion. Youre ignorant. Roman and greek gods had the same proto indo-european source. This is attested by comparative analysis. For example the origin of Jupiter and Zeus trace back to the same source PIE Dyeus Pater, meaning sky father. The Greeks dropped the father Piter and transformed Dyeus into Zeus. The Romans compressed Dyeus into Ju + piter. This evolution makes no sense through the naive myth of adoption. There's a plethora of other evidence as well, this is but one example. Precisely the same diety, with the same name, appears in places as far a field as India before Greece was even a civilization. There are much more ancient roots here than you have the slightest idea of. Later on in history was there cross influence, yes, but that's not the source, the fact is they share common much more ancient source that's estimated to go back about 7000 years.
@@jeupater1429 Also Romans had different gods at the very beginning, like Ianus
@@keyos1955 yes, but I don't think there is evidence, to my knowledge, of Janus being more archaic than Jupiter though their importance and predominance changed over time. Their coexistence in the pantheon was not contradictory in anyway
@@jeupater1429 I meant that not all the Roman Gods have found a relative God in the Greek pantheon. Janus didn't, it was unique. This means to me that the Roman pantheon was originally separated from the Greek and only after they matched the Gods with more similarities. The Romans never copied the Greek pantheon. As you said, there was a common root, and this explains the affinities
Bro your videos are legendary
Thank you :)
@@CostasMelas Please korean japanese and mongolic
@@CostasMelas how you make these type of video ?
Didn't even know about the offshoots of Ancient Greek religion like Hermeticism and Orphism I have to look em up!
@Victor Mace Macedonia is greece and Alexander The Great is greek.
@Victor Mace Macedonia is now mostly slavic . Ancient Macedonia was Greek kingdom . And I say this as a slavic
I thought Serapis would pop up anytime in the map.. but he didn't
@@hieratics yeah me too :(
@@mertkaanyavuzer2435 Macedonia is Macedonian. Not Slavic and not greek.
The music really fits the vibe of such a familiar ancient religion rising and falling.
Great video as always.
It's kinda sad seeing the hellenic faith decline so rapidly in the last few centuries of this video.
Thank you
@@lukemonk1855 Lu-Piter (Sky-Father), Jupiter
@@lukemonk1855 Christianity killed many people is what he is trynna say.
@@lukemonk1855 Lmao.
@Xiuh yeah bro the pagans were peaceful people who didnt oppress and kill christians for 300 years and forcing christians to practice paganism. Yeah its not like 5 of the largest city in the empire were majority christians. According to your fantasy marvel character worship larp the christians magically dropped from heaven and oppressed all pagans
I really admire your works. Greetings from Italy
Thank you :)
Roman Empire is italy history
This is a really cool and unique video! It would also be interesting to see the spread of Proto-Indo-European mythology and how it led to so many ancient religions being similar
Thank you very much. I would love to do that
Try the spread of atheism (which we all have as babies but we grow up).
It matches the spread of communism.
Protocol 4 of the Meetings of The Learned Elders of Zion: "Materialism replace religion."
@@scintillam_dei
As an Atheist myself, I am highly skeptical of your claim. How would one even track the spread of Atheism?
@@scintillam_dei Do I smell a bit of condescendance toward atheism? Anyway, your two assertions might be correct. Atheism also correlates with the spread of literacy and science. And wealth (a more apt word than "matierialism")
Humans tend to turn to a god when they're miserable as a sort of "last straw". Unfortunately, no god ever helped a human being. Only humans did. And science. Sometimes animals.
@@scintillam_dei Babies are not atheists or theists...
Thank you for the video! I love your channel! I want to say however, that the religion did not die out in 750, it actually lasted a bit longer into the late 800's, or the 9th century, in the Maniot peninsula.
Thanks. The time when religion was finally disappeared is determined after 700 AD. Nevertheless, survival is possible even in the early 9th century or even 10th century
Where is the Maniot peninsula? Is it part of the Peloponnese?
@@pompeiusmagnus2276 Yes, the southernmost tip.
@@CostasMelas Actually, now that I remember, I think I vaguely remember a British archeological team who once went somewhere in Greece I believe. They arrived at a remote village, a village that worshipped some sort of stone, or object, and believed it to lead to good harvests or rainfall, something along the lines of that. And when the team took the object back to their respective country, the next year's harvest just so happened to turn out poorly, and the villagers blamed it on them letting the team get away with it so easily. I wish I could remember the exact details, and better yet a source to the story, but for now I just wanted to share that.
Well said, sir. Mani began its conversion in the 9th century with the coming of St Nikon, and completed it in the 11th century. One of the last places in proper feudal Europe to resist the tide of Christianity.
Amici greci, saluti dal sud italia, la "magna grecia"!
Greek friends, greetings from south italy, the "big hellas"!
@Victor Mace
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Do evolution of Roman Polytheism next including secret cults that evolved and mystery cults that came from the east. Mithras, Sol Invictus etc.
Glycon as well
Romans didn't separate their religion from that of the Greeks. Hellenic is the overall term (don't forget that polytheists are called Hellenes/Greeks in the bible)
@Chitragupta hi 😊 that wouldn't be hard. Just check zoroastrianism and madaenism. Check the scripture before Torah and there you go. Thank me latter. 😜
Mithras (Roman cult)
< Mitra (Persian goddess)
> Maitreya or Miruk (future Buddha)
It’s cool how the followers of these religions were able to organize themselves into such neat lines
Ok funny guy
1 of the better videos. The best of these are the ones that blow up pre-conceived notions and inspire DIY research, deep dives. The pre Greek Ages religion in the beginning of this video was one such example of inspiring deep dives. Bravo.
Thank you
Interesting. Thanks for another good one, Costas Melas.
You're welcome
Glad we still learn this religion at school even if it have disappeared really interesting religion and very nice video as always!!
Thank you :)
great video! Keep it up
Thank you
The Hellene will not die as long as his creations live, his culture will not die as long as her veneration is alive and his civilization will not die as long as there are still the People of worth.
Great speech and this goes for every single ethnic group
@Victor Mace
...What?
@Victor Mace you can't even speak English
@Victor Mace 😵😵😵
@Victor Mace
You likely mean the Karamanlılar. That was a single group of Turkish-speaking Greeks that lived in a region where the language had changed to Turkish. Most Greeks especially in Ionia, Karia, Thrace and Pontus logically still retained their Greek language, in some regions even those that converted like in Çaykara.
Cool video, glad to see more such interesting content
Are you planning to make the next videos about languages or religions?
Thank you
As an Indian Hindus I wish I could meet one of these Hellenic Greeks & visit their Ancient Temples ones in Greece.
Interestingly, there are few remnants of Hellenistic religion in Hinduism. The biggest one being in Hindu Astrology with books such as Yavanajātaka, Paulishasiddhānta, Romakasidhhānta. Mars, associated with the Hindu god of war, Karttikeya, is also called आर (Āra), which comes from Ares, the Greek god of war.
@@kshatrapavan hmmmmmm
Nowadays, there are new hellenic temples in Greece
@@1000eau wow I will try to visit. Greece, Persia and India always coexisted even shared culture
The main common element between Hinduism, old Persian religion and (late) Greco-Roman polytheism is that all of them practiced the worship of the god Mithra.
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@yitzhak rafaeli shekkelsteingoldmanberg What kind of comment is this?
@yitzhak shekkelsteingoldmanberg Why aee Indians obsessed with both whites and Jews?
@@whoisjoe5610 dudes not even indian hes malay
Wonderful video! Keep up the good work :)
Thank you
Πολύ ωραία βίντεο ρε παίχτη!!!
Πόσο το περίμενα αυτό.. Απίστευτο βίντεο.
You should do a video on Roman paganism, showing the history of its development from Rustic to Hellenized and all of the weird pagan cults that developed over the ages in Rome.
I think that would be really interesting, and it would make for an excellent complement to this video, given how many people might think that the Roman religion was identical to the Greek religion of its time.
I would love to make it. The central-north Italia and other areas that was coloured with sparse stripes in this video, are related with the Roman religion (and Etruscan)
Good work thanks alot
You're welcome :)
New map is so freaking good
Thank you
Great video, Kostas.
Thank you :)
Its sad to see the Hellenic Faith decline, but it simply couldn't compete with the newer religions. Christianity could address problems that Hellenism couldn't as it was created later. Unless a radical shift in the very nature of Hellenic occured, its decline would have been inevitable anyways
By the height of the Roman Empire, as a living faith, hellenic religion was reduced to ritual and tradition. The educated had almost uniformly stopped taking actual belief in the gods seriously. But had Christianity been stopped, neoplatonism of the type espoused by Hypatia could have given us something like the scientific method earlier alongside some kind of Hindu-like practice followed by society at large.
I find Greek religion (hellenism) to be very interesting. It has been expressed to us today in tv shows and movies but unfortunately, all Greeks today don't practice their ancient religion and instead, adopted Christianity.
internet will slowly destroy Abrahamic religions that would be when people will start exploring their roots
Because hellenism is nonsense
So sad that this great civilization ended . Have great respect for this civilization that gave legends like Aristotle, Plato , Alexander and many more . From 🇮🇳
God willed it
I mean there are greeks in this world even today.. The difference is that they are Christians.. Also there are about 2000 people that believe, But they don't have a continuity with the pagans of the past.
@@KawaiiCanadafreememes It seems that in the 21st century, god has willed that Christianity should fade away among those with high IQ.
Most of the Greek philosohers did not believe in greek polytheism
Alexander was our enemy tho
A video on Egyptian religion might sound a bit limited only to Egypt but with the cult of Isis and Serapis it'll make a very interesting map also.
Very nice. But, you forgot Mani (southern Peloponnese), which preserved ancient Greek religious practices until it was Christianized in the 10th-11th centuries CE.
Make ancient egyptian and roman religions!
For the Egyptian one would you count the cult of Isis in Rome and Greece?
@@masterspark9880 what?
@@anasm4496 there was an Egyptian goddess called Isis (not related to the terrorist group) whose cult spread really far across the Roman Empire
@@masterspark9880 I would place the cult of Isis on such a map, yes. I'm sure Costas Melas would do it, too. His maps are so detailed.
Ms. Costas Melas, have you studied anything related to the subject of the graph? If so, what exactly and at what level?
Cult of Dionysos be like:
*WINE FOR THE WINE GOD*
I wish you could make a new video named ‘Religions of Europe' just like you do so in languages.
Can you make a video of the spread of all Indo-European languages?
One completely unknown event is the Hellenic (Greek) revolt of 727 against Roman ("Byzantine") emperor during early Roman-Arab wars.Last chunk of Hellenes were killed or converted that period or the next decades by the "Nikon the Metanoeitai".The revolt is kept a secret in Modern Greece too.
@Xiuh It is called Επανασταση των Ελλαδικων in Greek
It was part of the conflict of Byzantine Iconoclasm
Make about Slavic, Germanic, Celtic paganism
*Germanic
Yes!
What's the difference between proto Greek religion, micenean religion, dyonissiac religion, orphism, and the Hellenistic religion?
great video and music fits very well, hello from ukraine
Thank you
What is the name of the music?
It sounds nice😎
It is mentioned in the description part below the video
So shame that almost all nations forgot their gods and converted to foreign faiths of Christianity and Islam
Everyone has its choice you dont think that they will believe something coz their ancestors did
The Europeans weren’t very religious and didn’t really believe much to their gods, that’s why Hellenism ceased at the face of a new religion.
To those commenting: ofc Hellenism died due to persecution by the latter Christians of the eastern Roman Empire, but the reason why it started dying, giving way to a new religion is the one I stated above.
Christian theology before Christianity came in contact with Greece is radically different from Christian theology after it. This difference is very prominent between the old testament and the new testament. Proto-Christians destroyed Hellenistic temples but they could not destroy the philosophy and ideas these temples represented.
@@wildschwein9066 So Christianity is an unsuitable foreign religion yet you acknowledge Mithraism's foreign roots and approve of it as being European enough? What are your criteria or standards for making such judgement? What exactly do you mean by "european aspects"? The near-east of Asia and Europe are two regions with a deeply intertwined history where a great deal of cultural diffusion has taken place over millennia. To say Christianity is not European despite it being adopted, altered and spread by Europeans from nearly the very beginning seems odd to me. Especially when you say an eastern mystery religion that once competed with Christianity was preferable. Not trying to call you out, but I genuinely question if your logic isn't motivated by some animus toward the religion.
@@wildschwein9066 Im not saying there wasnt any forced conversion, but there are plenty of cases where people converted willingly.
What sources did you use for this?
Mainly the multi-volume work History of the Greek nation, Athens, 1972, but I used also a lot of other books even books about the local history
"The time of great heroes is dead Wiglaf, the Christ God has killed it. Leaving us with nothing but weeping martyrs, fear, and shame. We men are the monsters now."
-King Beowulf I
Now it could be time for paganism to rise again... the times of Theodosius the as*h*le are over.
@@emanueledes7 Όχι δεν είναι. Ο ποιήσας πάντα, αυτός εστί ο μόνος και αληθινός Κύριος
@@georgefratzeskos We'll see :)
All your videos are amazing
Thank you
It is usually taught that the old beliefs did stop with Theodoses' ban in the late 4th Century C. E, but with this video they do resist during Heraclids and early Isaurians.
That was no evidence embrassing the new faith.
What program do you use for your videos?
Mainly paintnet and blender
@@CostasMelas ok thanks
Great video ! But I wonder, what are your sources, especially for the last remaining Hellenic populations.
Thank you. In fact, I put on the video my entire bibliography of Greek history from local history by region to multi-volume works on Greek history. I will organize it and put it in the description part
That would be great ! Keep up the good work.
What happens if They Survived In India Like Zoroastrianism
Proto-Hellenic religion and Minoan religion were the first religions in Greece.
It survived into the Roman era? Is the Roman mythology covered under the same label?
No, in the western regions it is colored with sparse stripes indicating that the Roman religion was influenced by the Hellenistic, but it remains different.
There are still people who believe in Greek pantheon and call themselves pagan
They are not true believers, they are just people who want to attract attention through their actions
Wikipedia says that "pagan communities, namely the Maniots, persisted in the Mani Peninsula of Greece until at least the 9th century." Greek paganism may have lasted even longer than depicted in the video.
I wonder how long the ancient Egyptian religion lasted after it was mostly replaced by Christianity. There was an attempted re-opening of the temple of Philae as late as 567 AD. Our knowledge of this comes from a letter from Dioscorus of Aphrodito to the governor of the Thebaid region of Roman Egypt. The letter warns of a man called the "eater of raw meat" who, among other things, is alleged to have restored Egyptian paganism at a group of temples interpreted to be Philae. The remote Siwa Oasis, along with Philae, was one of the last strongholds of old Egyptian religion. Given the length that Greek paganism lasted, is it not conceivable that there were still some followers of the ancient Egyptian religion at the time of the Arab Muslim conquest in 641?
In Persia, most people followed Zoroastrianism for the first two or three centuries following the Muslim conquest. And of course there are still Zoroastrians around now.
Lithuania remained openly pagan until 1387, when it adopted Christianity as the official religion. However, the pagan faith of Romuva never fully died out in Lithuania.
Christian missionary work started among the Sámi of Finland as early as the 13th century, but it was not until 1700 that aggressive conversion efforts began. In 1716, missionary Thomas von Westen, for example, is said to have converted over a thousand Sámi in his first journey to Finnmark.
Music name
Imagine Julian the Apostate lived longer and won...
@Αποκάλυψης ΠΛΔΣ. III ΙV You don't, I do. Theodosian Christianity and the Middle Ages were totalitarian. Finally, they're over.
The guy here said "everything was totalitarian, stop projecting". Maybe it was, but now it can, and must be over with totalitarian crap. The Roman Empire was maybe in some form "totalitarian", but much better and much more tolerant than the Theodosian Christian Empire and the Middle Ages (for example, there was religious freedom , except for the monotheistic extremists who didn't tolerate others' views).
Would have been very interesting to see a more organized and centralized form of polytheism such as what Julian wanted.
When Hellenism ended, dark ages began
Actually started even during it
Dyeus phter -- > Zeus pater = Jupiter = Dyaus pitr = Tyr/Tiwaz
Latin : Deus Pater
Dieu- from Δίας (Dias aka Zeus- Ζεύς)
Hindu god Indra and Norse god Thor also might have same origin as Greek.
@@prasadpawar7027 They all are derived from the Proto-indo-european myth
@@speedline6754 Yeah most likely
Sad such an influential religion and culture has died away.😢
Good news for ancient hellenic religion is actually last 20 years there is minority in Greece start again to embrace again polytheism of 12 Olympian gods they are about 100k people praying in groups in Greece and I saw they created even a temple in thessaloniki Macedonia Greece .And they recognized 2017 by the state .
Could you do a video about the religion of the indo greek kingdom?
It include mix of ancient Greek religion, local religions and later Buddhism
@@CostasMelas thx
Will Roman paganism be the next one?
Roman paganism is more like Geek 2.0
it's in the vid, u can see the romans spreading it to gaul, spain & africa
@@manooxi327 It's not in the video, I know it because Rome itself was not colored.
@@ohistoriador4848 bruh, check the date (facepalm)
@@manooxi327 bruh, do you even know where the city of Rome is? There is a fucking river signaling it, and yet you missed. Congratulations.
@@ohistoriador4848 (facepalm)
What is Orphism, Hermitism?
Ancient religions of the Greek world with different practises and beliefs from the mainstream polytheism
@@CostasMelas could we say that these religions are monolatric (meaning believing in the existance of multiple gods, but worshiping only one)?
@@hectork-l9670 That seems accurate, especially since cities or royal families worshipped one deity (Seleucids=Apollo for example).If I'm right lol
So the religion ended within the area it began. Thanks for this video!
You're welcome :)
@Xiuh oh. so who worship those gods,i see?
@Xiuh still it is native to the area in which it began so I am right
To be honest I thought it would have been far more widespread in the west Italy etc
It is, but there it is mixed with Roman religion also. So it seems it isn't so much.
The number of worshippers of the hellenic gods (and gods of other pantheons) is slowly creeping up nowadays. And not just in Greece. It might time for a rebirth.
Greek religion goes back to the stone age. Greek religion never disappeared. It went underground and still exists to this day.
I am Greek. The Greek spirit and Hellinism is wholly transported into the Christian Greek Orthodox faith. The adoption of philosophical ideas of our ancestors in Christianity without harassing it was a wise choice indeed
@@georgefratzeskos I am Greek. Hellenic religion is Hellenic religion and the eastern Roman church is the Eastern Roman church. What you are referring to are either badly copied theological - philosophical doctrines done with an exploitative and malicious intent by appropriation of platonic doctrine not understood by hypocritical sophists of the Roman imperial Publican scheme (the whole Pseudo Dionysius Areopagita works for instance), or attempts by undercover Hellenists in eastern roman church disguise to Hellenise the imperial institution, in which case they were routed out either as Heretical or as Hellenic (idolatrous, Ioannis Italos for instance) or as both, (Barlaam the Kalabrian for instance). The policy of the church against Hellenic religion can be easily seen in the Roman legislation which proves that any claim of it having a policy of non harassment towards Hellenism is in the category of "denial of proven genocide". Whether or not the malicious appropriation happened with or without harassment to the orthodox dogma is of little importance since the whole thing is a Publican Roman - Jewish scheme
@@georgefratzeskos Having Hellenism turning into a Yahweh-worshipping pyramid scheme somehow sounds even worse than if it just disappeared.
Oh shit this is really interesting
What about Pythagoreanism? Too niche to be shown on this map?
Isn't Pythagoreanism a philosophy and not a religion?
@@Victor_aeternus002 It's still religion, even if you worship numbers rather than gods.
@@Victor_aeternus002 religion and philosophy in the ancient world were basically the same.
Read also Ramayana Mahabharata it stated that the Greeks the kings of the Aryans ghet the west after the Mahabharata world war earth will be devided in four.
I had Greek classmates back in elementary school who still believed in Zeus lol
There is no way this is true. No one believes in Zeus
@@georgefratzeskos I mean, she was an 8 year old Greek kid proud of her culture, what do you expect? lol
@@Ryan12458 ah ok then. I am Greek and I know some people who believe in the 12 gods. But not in a way you imagine rather than attributing our culture to them so yeah. Take care my friend
@@georgefratzeskos Thanks man, love your culture btw. I’ve always wanted to visit Greece
@@georgefratzeskos i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
Is this accurate?
Some year turks were orthodox in Istanbul, greeks made turks Orthodox
At which time were they?
Turks came from Central Asia in XI century . Constantinopole was a greek / roman city with large minorities like Syrians , Slavs etc. . Cities like Smyrna etc. were also greek with some minority . Only Eastern Anatolia was Kurd or some other Hellenised nations
@@jakubtargosz9597
Let's not forget the Armenians in Eastern Anatolia.
@@justinien1er389 we went to anatolia from central asia, we discovered anatolia and byzantine come this lands and made us Orthodox and after kicked us idk why
@@jakubtargosz9597 so easy to go to anatolia from central asia, use your brain, why we dont come to here? We come here and went to Central Asia after we came to anatolia after we came to Central Asia after we came here in 1071
Dravidian languages please :)
Can't believe there were once Greek Hellenists in my neighbourhood.
I think because Greeks, Romans, Celts, Germans, Slavs etc all came from indo-europeans we all basically had the same religion and after we diversed we still had the same religion just with different gods names and some details. I wonder how Indo-europeans called their gods.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_mythology
Also neat that in that theory would also be Hinduism's vague relation to Indo-European paganism. Brb, sorry Jesus but I'm converting to Hinduism.
@@a.d.t.mapping
That is just a reconstruction, we can never be sure that this was fact. It is not like the ancient Greek gods, whose origins and evolution we have great knowledge. Like Athena, who was before Athana Potnia, the Potnia godess of Athens (Athana in South Helladic Greek), which Potnia is from Potnia Theron, a later conception of the daughter of Mother Earth, the Cretan (Minoan) Godess.
@@welcometothemonkeyapezone7797 can I ask why did you changed to Hinduism?
@@welcometothemonkeyapezone7797 :)
I'm shocked that this ancient greek religion spread all the way to india at 1 point!
Alexander
The Greek religion was never the majority though. It was just the religion of the Indo-Greek rulers who emerged after the fall of the Selucid Empire in Iran and the Mauryan Empire of India. Most people followed Buddhism and Hindusim.
@@dwarasamudra8889 thats why the video shows lines, that means either the ruling class followed the religion or it was a minority
Correct they coexisted with Zoroastrian, hindu, Buddhists, jain and early Christian
It never reached modern India. Indo Greek Kingdom was in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
This is good but "ancient greek religion" is a very vague term, because the cults in ephesus and those of the athenians were very different, for example, and their main celebrations and how their pantheons were viewed were also very different.
This is total extinction. Almost like the Zoroastrians. Except there that religion fled to India and continues to live there to this day among the Parsis. Too bad ancient Greco-Roman religion didn't flee to India too. That would've probably been the only place where it could've survived to the modern day.
Jews too settled in India and lived way better than their western counterparts.
ah yes , the best religion
Thanks man, I currently practice it and some other People here in Greece
Nah let it rest in peace
How tho?
@@christiansciberras7107 RIP Christianity by 2050.
@@blackphoenix3220 "RIP Christianity by 2050."
Christianity won't be RIP by 2050.
It really is sad to see it disappear.
No, it isn’t
C0pe.
Islam/Christianity > fire man, electricity man (Pagans)
Ancient Roman next? more European Paganism, please!
You could have also included Hellenistic Judaism which likely influenced early Christianity as by the 2nd Century Hellenic Jews had converted to one of another sects of Early Christianity.
The Hellenistic period actually includes many religious beliefs that are difficult to be shown all. Hellenistic Judaism is indeed interesting due to its connection with Christianity
@@CostasMelas not discrediting your work what so ever. I would love to see more of these! Just I agree Hellenistic Judaism may have had more of an influence on the world then we may ever know. That merging of these two cultures like that which happened when Alexander conquered India and the rise of Greco-Buddhism. Hellenics were just really good at integrating other religions sometimes to their own detriment.
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Buy what about the Hellenic religion in Bactria? Off the edge of the map!
Since, the Greeks conquered ancient India, we Hindus have got a lot of Hellenistic influences, and I have noted striking similiraties between a lot of Hindu and Greek traditions.
That's because both descended from Proto Indo European Religion.
This was way before Alexander's invasion
@@parvadhami980 I know. But a lot of elements of Hindu culture is inherited from Greeks too.
@@eshaansarkar2017 for example?
@@parvadhami980 There are popular school of architectures which are Greek. Example: Gandhara School.(Note: School here means style).
There are lot of words in Sanskrit which originate from Greek. Example: Kendra from Kentron.
Greek Polytheism has influenced Hinduism a lot. The Deity kamadeva is influenced by the Greek god Eros.
@@eshaansarkar2017 Sanskrit and Greek are Indo European languages so similar words
Bronze age Macedonia, Thrace and western Anatolia be like :
🎵I'm feeling devious, you're looking glamourous 🎶
Lol
Greece was better before Christianity
Hellas went from going extinct to having an empire.
@@00fgytduydrtu the empire was not their own, not until the byzantines.
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no mention of north africa and berbers that influenced a lot the greek religion and gods and even the dress of athena influenced from the berbers, athena herself born in north africa acording to the greek mythology
No. Athens founded and named at least a millennia prior, and in the greek mythology Athena was born in zeus head and released after seeking help with a increasingly sever headache. Daughter of Zeus and mithis The egyption pantheon was influenced by Libyan cults and tradition in pre 1st dynasty possibly some during 3rd dynasty a millinia and half later but by that time north africa was settled and dominated by greek and mediterian peoples. Since way before the bronze age collapse. In fact the north african inhabitants of Libya that would migrate into the nile river region and establish lower egypt were originally european in origin believed to be possibly ancient europeans from the ibainian peninsula or scilly. The plato account of an Egyptian goddess with similarities to athena was just that a comparision. The goddess shares similarities with several ancient deities especially in Babylon and ancient anatolia. Even the roman goddess Venus
though heavily influenced is not the same. Though the greek, minoan, anatolian cults and gods
Did influence and were adopted neighboring peoples and
Civilizations and such were not created in a vacuum even without direct influence these peoples largely originated from a common people.
The black athena as she is dubbed although I don't know why because she is described caucasian with blue eyes. Moreless shares only a name with the greek goddess, nor does she have any connection with the Libyan originated Egyptian goddess plato wrote of. The north african athena became popular in north africa and north west Africa after Carthage established dominace over the other phoenician and greek colonies and cities. Then integrating the indigenous berber coluter into the phoenician civilization these berbers were southern european in origin pre or early bronze age and the greeks had already adopted the peoples around their colonies and cities in north africa prior to the Carthage unification. While the north african Athena may or maynot have some local later diety as a forebearer and just renamed is unclear. What is clear is she was popular and wide spread for about 3 centuries bce,
Shared the same name as the greek goddess but an entirely different origin and even attributes. The north africa athena's father was Poseidon and she like her father largely was goddess of weather and water
sad, just as sad as decline of greek culture :((((
This is incorrect map.where is georgia kindom?
lol.
The old Greek religion survived longer than the 8th century. The very last Greek pagans migrated to Harran in today South-East Turkey and it was called Hellenopolis bij many Syriac teachers. they survived untill the 11th century when the city and their temple of Sin (moon temple) was destroys bij Muslims. Even after that there were still pagans in and near Edessa, also in south-east Turkey. They well survived till the 60's in the 20th century under the name of 'Shemshi' which means sun-worshipper. The last Shemshi pagans were converted to the Yezidi religion. These pagans were exualy Aramean/Syriac pagans but Greek pagans survived till at least the 11th century in Harran.
Today there are still many people who believe in the ancient Greek religion💪
Yes!!! And in the next years there will be more people trying to rebuild all the European Pagan Religions!!! I hope that by 2100 Europe have Paganism as the dominant religion
@@pedrosilvasouto7320 It could happen actually, lol.
Unfortunately we are not the same. We can never be the same as the ancients. This is why we try to rebuild it as best as we can but it's never gonna be the continues religion of the ancients but just a rebuilt one. Just like many other polytheistic / pagan religions in the world.
*Larpers that live on their Mums Basement.
how much years of history - this is Greece !
Makes sense that Punjab and Bactria had Greek religions for a while especially Bactria but Iran should have some all be it though the Persians don’t like Greeks in those times.
*Original Greek religion
Let us worship the cameraman who managed to change the land, keep man the same, and speed up time.