The future generations of this product is going to be amazing if they keep at it. If done right it will be a better overall alternative than the efoils (way lighter, way cheaper and you can actually pump the board) I hope you send your inputs to the FoilDrive team to suit the wake/pumping madmen.
I'm in Australia and I just bought one... Foil drive plus...hopefully in the next few weeks I'll be using it for efoil, for catching waves SUPing and for getting on the foil quicker while wing dinging (just learning) 😊 Never thought about trying to jump on everyone's boat wake as they drive past though...they'll be spinning out 🛥️⛴️ 😊
Another great video of yours that I really enjoyed watching (multiple times). I was hanging out for this one because I bought a Foil Drive and it should be arriving this week or next. I will have a setup very similar to yours on a Naish Hover inflatable. I'm also getting a longer cable and plan to strap the box on the nose so that I can mount the board from the back as I do my Fliteboard. I see that you tried a few ways to run the cable down the side to the motor. I'd like to know what you ended up with in the end. I'm not sure if you went with along the rail or beside the deck grip. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the final position for running the cable. It looks like at times you used pvc tape and used the cable channels at other times. I'm planning to try a few variations with mine, including using a second small electric motor (ePropulsion Vaquita) mounted to the stabilizer for continuous trust. I'm hoping to maintain prolonged flight with this configuration for 70 minutes, we'll see.
Alongside the board worked best. PVC tape is key else you'll have tape residue to clean off after you remove it. Please stay in touch. I'd love to hear how your experience goes. Wakethief@icloud.com
Paul, how much is the vaquita? Will the remote work with the vaquita that far underwater? Have you thought about how much push you'll get from the vaquita mounted on the rear foil? They indicate that you can run the vaquita at full throttle for 70 minutes. That sounds fantastic. Please respond as I'm about to buy a foil Drive assist and want to know how your experiment works out.
@@dong8822 Hi Don, The ePropulsion Vaquita is $1,000 AUD for the motor, wrist controler and battery. The battery has the bluetooth receiver and is mounted on top of the board so it is not under water. We have had a lot of fun with this little motor for over a year now but it is underpowered for foiling. It is great for 6 to 8 kph riding around instead of paddling and yes it will run for 70 min on full trottle. I have mounted this motor along with the Foil Drive but it really just slows it down because of the extra drag so I don't try to foil with it in any configuration anymore. We often still use it to just cruise around while the other person is foiling and we are waiting for our turn. On the other hand with just the Foil Drive mounted and a lighter rider (60kg) we have been efoiling with a lot of different configurations. Just today we were foiling with a 5'7" Naish Hover carbon 95L with a 55cm mast, 450 stab, and 3 different wings (Naish Jet 2000, 1650 & 1250) all worked to get onto the foil. The 1250 worked just barely and the 2000 performed the best even when the wind and chop picked up. The Foil Drive has also worked as an efoil with 6'7" Naish Hover inflatable 170L, 5'7" Naish Hover inflatable 135L and 6'6" Naish Hover carbon 140L boards with bigger wings Naish Jet 2450, HA 2140 and they all worked. But understand that it was not designed to be an e-foil and not designed to be run continuously on full trottle. So we don't. We find with our wind and current it works best one way and we taxi back at 40% or so the other way. This give the battery and controller a periodic rest. I'm 97kg and need to paddle or wing or some swell to get enough extra push to get me up on foil with the Foil Drive. I can highly recommend the Foil Drive as we have done a lot of testing and I also own a Fliteboard. Just understand what the limitations of the product are based on what it was designed to do and the weight of the rider and the setup and the conditions and it will be a lot of fun.
This is awesome!! Just found your channel today. I've dreamed of surfing waves of passing boats and barges on the Mississippi River. I have a lot of learning to do. Thank you!!!! Our "pool" is about 7 miles long(I think) with the right boat(s) that could be a long ride... The locks regularly let out a train of boats. And the pool we are on usually gets traveled lock to lock.
Hey Derek ... your situation sounds very similar to ours! Thanks for leaving a comment. If I can help you on your journey (learn to dock start, learn to pump, choose equipment), do let me know. wakethief@icloud.com
Excellent! Killer analysis! Love the idea. I have a small seascooter that I was wondering if I could somehow attach it to a foil, could I get up and out of the water? Great video as always.
Thanks, Pete! I must've missed this . Sorry for the delay in getting back. If the sea scooter can produce 50lb of thrust it should be doable, but I don't think they can, can they?
@@WakeThief No worries, I am not sure how much thrust it puts out. I'll have to look it up. It is a scooter from Indiegogo and a company called LeFeet and the model is the S1. Good to know that I need 50lbs of thrust. Thanks!
Thanks for all the brilliant and inspiring content and reviews. Wanted to ask your advice in that I've been offered this same Foil Drive assist (original pre-assist plus model) and was wondering if you still think it's a worthwhile buy for learning. I'm 82kg, 47yrs old and not super fit but thinking this might get me more time on foil quickly. Am I mad considering this? It's over £2000 less than a new assist plus. Any advice very gratefully received. thanks again for the fantastic content.
The foil drive assist plus came with a piece of plexiglass that had holes you could put screws through and into the foot strap screw holes! Worked great!
if the cable mad a huge difference as you said, attaching the prop behind the rearwing in line with the fusealage should increase range drastically with reasonable effort
Awesome (as usual)! Couple of questions: why would you put the batter on your chest? Does it make the pumping better to have the weight up there? Also, are you going to have one of those at the Gorge for your presentation? Cheers!
I didn’t have to put it on my chest but I also didn’t want anything near my feet. Container needs to stay above water or it loses contact w hand controller. I won’t have it with me next week (I don’t feel comfortable taking battery on plane) but happy to talk about it! Pls always feel free to reach out to me directly if I can ever help. Wakethief@icloud.com. Perhaps I can find a foil drive owner near you to try it
There will always be a better version coming soon, but right now for a fraction of the cost of a Lift or a Flite you could be efoiling now with more fun options than a dedicated efoil (I own a Flite and a FoilDrive).
@@WakeThief Fliteboard is an amazing piece of technology, very well made. I'm only a half dozen rides into it but I'd say the downside is it's a lot of weight under foot, plus there's something of a "shooting fish in a barrel" feeling versus the sense of accomplishment that comes with learning to wingfoil or prone pumping on a sinker board (which I'm yet to try). OK, so FoliDrive is a cheat : ) but if as your video shows there's still plenty of skill involved. I'm also using as a second low cost "efoil" taking my daughter out, letting her zip zap around on the Flite while I get some exercise paddling my 137L Hyperfoil. The foildrive boost makes for a much more satisfying paddle experience. I gave it a go in the surf last weekend but in less than ideal conditions. Much still to learn!
Thank you for sharing, David. We’ve been playing with the ultra and true glide prop and enjoying it too. The innovation in this sport is impressive right now. Can’t wait to see what’s out there in 12mo!
I love your videos bro!!! I’ve been trying sup foil but can’t get enough speed so my friend is gonna take me out with a boat. I wish I could video myself 🤣
I was waiting for this video.. beyond expectations.. they knew who to send it too hahah 👏👏 Keep smashing it 😎😎
Thank you! Your comment really made my day.
@@WakeThief Thank you! for the great content! 👍
This is awesome, and I could see this a game changer for wake/lake foiling!
Yes! Thanks for the comment. I hope you’re doing well! Pls send vids once you’re flying!
The future generations of this product is going to be amazing if they keep at it. If done right it will be a better overall alternative than the efoils (way lighter, way cheaper and you can actually pump the board)
I hope you send your inputs to the FoilDrive team to suit the wake/pumping madmen.
Thanks, Sven. Excellent point. Paul and Ben are just awesome. Texting with them as I type this to you.
I'm in Australia and I just bought one... Foil drive plus...hopefully in the next few weeks I'll be using it for efoil, for catching waves SUPing and for getting on the foil quicker while wing dinging (just learning) 😊 Never thought about trying to jump on everyone's boat wake as they drive past though...they'll be spinning out 🛥️⛴️ 😊
Awesome! Enjoy!
Another great video of yours that I really enjoyed watching (multiple times). I was hanging out for this one because I bought a Foil Drive and it should be arriving this week or next. I will have a setup very similar to yours on a Naish Hover inflatable. I'm also getting a longer cable and plan to strap the box on the nose so that I can mount the board from the back as I do my Fliteboard. I see that you tried a few ways to run the cable down the side to the motor. I'd like to know what you ended up with in the end. I'm not sure if you went with along the rail or beside the deck grip. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the final position for running the cable. It looks like at times you used pvc tape and used the cable channels at other times. I'm planning to try a few variations with mine, including using a second small electric motor (ePropulsion Vaquita) mounted to the stabilizer for continuous trust. I'm hoping to maintain prolonged flight with this configuration for 70 minutes, we'll see.
Alongside the board worked best. PVC tape is key else you'll have tape residue to clean off after you remove it. Please stay in touch. I'd love to hear how your experience goes. Wakethief@icloud.com
Paul, how much is the vaquita? Will the remote work with the vaquita that far underwater? Have you thought about how much push you'll get from the vaquita mounted on the rear foil? They indicate that you can run the vaquita at full throttle for 70 minutes. That sounds fantastic. Please respond as I'm about to buy a foil Drive assist and want to know how your experiment works out.
@@dong8822 Hi Don, The ePropulsion Vaquita is $1,000 AUD for the motor, wrist controler and battery. The battery has the bluetooth receiver and is mounted on top of the board so it is not under water. We have had a lot of fun with this little motor for over a year now but it is underpowered for foiling. It is great for 6 to 8 kph riding around instead of paddling and yes it will run for 70 min on full trottle. I have mounted this motor along with the Foil Drive but it really just slows it down because of the extra drag so I don't try to foil with it in any configuration anymore. We often still use it to just cruise around while the other person is foiling and we are waiting for our turn. On the other hand with just the Foil Drive mounted and a lighter rider (60kg) we have been efoiling with a lot of different configurations. Just today we were foiling with a 5'7" Naish Hover carbon 95L with a 55cm mast, 450 stab, and 3 different wings (Naish Jet 2000, 1650 & 1250) all worked to get onto the foil. The 1250 worked just barely and the 2000 performed the best even when the wind and chop picked up. The Foil Drive has also worked as an efoil with 6'7" Naish Hover inflatable 170L, 5'7" Naish Hover inflatable 135L and 6'6" Naish Hover carbon 140L boards with bigger wings Naish Jet 2450, HA 2140 and they all worked. But understand that it was not designed to be an e-foil and not designed to be run continuously on full trottle. So we don't. We find with our wind and current it works best one way and we taxi back at 40% or so the other way. This give the battery and controller a periodic rest. I'm 97kg and need to paddle or wing or some swell to get enough extra push to get me up on foil with the Foil Drive. I can highly recommend the Foil Drive as we have done a lot of testing and I also own a Fliteboard. Just understand what the limitations of the product are based on what it was designed to do and the weight of the rider and the setup and the conditions and it will be a lot of fun.
Amazing! Thanks for the video, i need this on my life.
Lol! Thank you for taking the time to write a comment, Manu. I didn’t think I needed one until I tried it!
Sounds great, i am getting foildrive +
I can’t wait for you review! I love what you’ve been doing.
This is awesome!! Just found your channel today. I've dreamed of surfing waves of passing boats and barges on the Mississippi River. I have a lot of learning to do. Thank you!!!! Our "pool" is about 7 miles long(I think) with the right boat(s) that could be a long ride... The locks regularly let out a train of boats. And the pool we are on usually gets traveled lock to lock.
Hey Derek ... your situation sounds very similar to ours! Thanks for leaving a comment. If I can help you on your journey (learn to dock start, learn to pump, choose equipment), do let me know. wakethief@icloud.com
Excellent! Killer analysis! Love the idea. I have a small seascooter that I was wondering if I could somehow attach it to a foil, could I get up and out of the water? Great video as always.
Thanks, Pete! I must've missed this . Sorry for the delay in getting back. If the sea scooter can produce 50lb of thrust it should be doable, but I don't think they can, can they?
@@WakeThief No worries, I am not sure how much thrust it puts out. I'll have to look it up. It is a scooter from Indiegogo and a company called LeFeet and the model is the S1. Good to know that I need 50lbs of thrust. Thanks!
@@WakeThief Just looked it up. 7KG of thrust. Bummer!
Thanks for all the brilliant and inspiring content and reviews. Wanted to ask your advice in that I've been offered this same Foil Drive assist (original pre-assist plus model) and was wondering if you still think it's a worthwhile buy for learning. I'm 82kg, 47yrs old and not super fit but thinking this might get me more time on foil quickly. Am I mad considering this? It's over £2000 less than a new assist plus. Any advice very gratefully received. thanks again for the fantastic content.
The original assist didn’t have enough power. If you were 50kg, I’d say perhaps go for it. I’d wait a bit for a lower priced used gen 2.
Thanks so much! Think that sounds wise. Thanks again for the brilliant and inspiring content! Very appreciated!
Can you share your experience with fixing the box on the board . I might have seen also a band around ?
The foil drive assist plus came with a piece of plexiglass that had holes you could put screws through and into the foot strap screw holes! Worked great!
Muito legal!!
Aqui no Brasil foil wing já é praticado... Breve foil drive também... Vou ajudar na divulgação. ✌️
if the cable mad a huge difference as you said, attaching the prop behind the rearwing in line with the fusealage should increase range drastically with reasonable effort
Yes, this is exactly what we did in efoil mode. I just didn't have enough cable to pull it off and let me put it on my chest. You're so right!
Awesome (as usual)! Couple of questions: why would you put the batter on your chest? Does it make the pumping better to have the weight up there? Also, are you going to have one of those at the Gorge for your presentation? Cheers!
I didn’t have to put it on my chest but I also didn’t want anything near my feet. Container needs to stay above water or it loses contact w hand controller. I won’t have it with me next week (I don’t feel comfortable taking battery on plane) but happy to talk about it! Pls always feel free to reach out to me directly if I can ever help. Wakethief@icloud.com. Perhaps I can find a foil drive owner near you to try it
I am going to wait for the efoiler 2.0 . Pretty sure it will be even better.
How much is the setup? Anything to drill? Thanks so much for the video!!!
No drilling. Easy setup. $2800 USD at current conversion.
There will always be a better version coming soon, but right now for a fraction of the cost of a Lift or a Flite you could be efoiling now with more fun options than a dedicated efoil (I own a Flite and a FoilDrive).
Amazing that you own both. I’d love to hear your feedback on the two. I so appreciate you sharing this.
@@WakeThief Fliteboard is an amazing piece of technology, very well made. I'm only a half dozen rides into it but I'd say the downside is it's a lot of weight under foot, plus there's something of a "shooting fish in a barrel" feeling versus the sense of accomplishment that comes with learning to wingfoil or prone pumping on a sinker board (which I'm yet to try). OK, so FoliDrive is a cheat : ) but if as your video shows there's still plenty of skill involved. I'm also using as a second low cost "efoil" taking my daughter out, letting her zip zap around on the Flite while I get some exercise paddling my 137L Hyperfoil. The foildrive boost makes for a much more satisfying paddle experience. I gave it a go in the surf last weekend but in less than ideal conditions. Much still to learn!
Thank you for sharing, David. We’ve been playing with the ultra and true glide prop and enjoying it too. The innovation in this sport is impressive right now. Can’t wait to see what’s out there in 12mo!
I love your videos bro!!! I’ve been trying sup foil but can’t get enough speed so my friend is gonna take me out with a boat. I wish I could video myself 🤣
Thanks Anthony! Let me know if I can ever help
Love it
Have you tried the FDA+ yet?
Great video, truly ! Any news or update for Foil Drive 2.0 ?
None yet but I’ve been told by Paul there’s something coming soon!
Did you try with a stick and the propeler attach to it ?
I did not, but that's a pretty good idea. Thank you!
That is epic. Hopefully one day batteries get much smaller
I really can't wait for a serious breakthrough in battery technology, current batteries are holding back sooo many different technologies
Totally with you. It will improve!
No doubt, Mike! I hope you’re well
@@WakeThief yes imagine you could have a clip on prop that turns every foil in to an E-Foil...
@@WakeThief thanks doing well here... adding the wing to the foil is too much fun. You should try it.
Tyvek tape might help reduce the drag even further
Great idea. I’ll give it a try
Great video Wake Thief.
Thank you so much!
Seems like a battery back pack could be a good option to keep the foil lighter
Yes!
@@WakeThief any advice on how to wear your battery?
I wouldn’t recommend it.