Architect's design: A Bath "homes from hell" episode 1
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Taken from ITV "Homes from Hell" series, first of two episodes describing the technical failure of a timber frame house designed by an architecture practice without adequate indemnity insurance.
Wow. Rich people retiring into giant mansions. You figure most would move into small cottages with little maintenance.
Knock it all down and built a traditional house, with bricks and tiles etc.
Even mud would be more traditional and better
This is probably the ugliest design I have ever seen. Even if it was completed 110%
+MrRichVos Its visual appearance is better now that all the render rainscreen is gone and its clad in timber overall, but we were disapointed with what a Zurich trained Swiss architect achieved, who is now writing books about it......
I agree.
I concur
@starfiremale they don't even call it living in a home they call it living in a building.
dreams are safe, until they're converted into reality.. that's when nightmares materialise.😣
Looks like 2 warehouses, both internally and externally. Awful designs.
Aluminum window frames in this day and age? So much for the industrial look and condensation.
First thing I thought👍
They are such nice people they do not deserve all this disaster
It's a hard truth: 'Nice guys finish last' (because other people walk all over them)
Yes, they do deserve it. The design was of A WOODEN HOUSE NEXT TO ANOTHER WOODEN HOUSE. What did they think would happen the minute it started to rain?? There is no siding or shingles or anything to protect the wood! What a scam! And that guy is an engineer!!?????
@@kvk1960 too true
That's so ugly just burn it and start over. This time have it designed by someone with working sight.
My husband and I purchased a "Fixer" and decided it was a great idea to LIVE in it while we are fixing it ourselves.....Two and and a half years later.... UGH!!!....We are still fixing it! My heart goes out to these two, who have managed to keep their sense of humor and sanity, which is no small feat!
Why? They decided to RETIRE IN A HUGE WAREHOUSES that require A LOT of maintenance. And who in their right mind would go for wood in a damp area near a pond...
They brought this on themselves and the guy is an engineer - he really should have seen this coming...
Black mold grows when houses cannot breathe... black mold is pervasive- sue the architect and sue the builder. Tear it down - cut your losses.
how you make house breathe, what should be done in the construction to breathe. I am curious. I wish I knew how to make a home. I am woman. Even my friend that is just a (those guys that just help in construction) would know how to make better home than this disaster home. And he made 3 homes and very nice and he is not engineer, he is not architect.
my god, this guy is calm.... I would have taken the architect for a swim in the desert.
personally i dislike both buildings, the have beautiful land around a awful looking pair of homes
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I am amazed at the philosophical approach of this couple. Most others would have collapsed into self pity and depression. Amazing!
I don't understand why they used wood on the exterior. Even the fact it rots when exposed to so much ongoing wet weather, it weathers and turns gray in a year and requires so much ongoing maintenance . Why not brick or stucco? Seems they are not thinking clearly even after 10 years
Goodness, it looks like an old community center, sorry to say but the design is awful!
I was just thinking the exact same thing! Absolutely dreadful design.
Deeply impressed by the home owners' positive outlook. Remarkable people. Bravo ! As for the architect and project manager/builders...criminal.
Looks like a warehouse
Keep the comments coming people, this "event" was, through ITV, the direct cause of the architects registration board changing their code of practice (and their web site), so not all bad then. And no, the architects are not registered to practice now, probably because they can't get any insurance at all now, but they were teaching at uni. because you don't have to be registered to do that. And we love the appearance of the house, so there.
@@davidf2118 mvhr already fitted, cladding is cedar untouched for a decade still perfect.
Who the heck was the architect, the buildings are incredibly ugly, their home looks like a barn and the guest house looks like warehouse.
exactly.
Dehumidifiers cost nothing. I have had one running for 2years. It wipes out about 4 liters every day.
Gamle Ole It shouldn’t happen to begin with
it looks like a shed
They lost so much. Poor people.
hummm
architects must have graduated from the now-defunct stevie wonder school of architecture...
I thought this guy was supposed to be an engineer....
Yes but even as an engineer you should have confidence in the architect to produce a design which meets basic requirements without having to go over all the small details.
Architects like to play engineer, they are not.
@@splint3048 The small details are where most projects fail... Anyone can get it 80% there; the small details are the most time consuming and so are often, conveniently, overlooked!
Good luck to these two, they deserve a better future
Dream Home looks like a hen house!
good luck to two lovely people.
with an awful taste in architecture
My sentiments exactly, and they DO seem like lovely people. It's nice to see a comment that isn't just criticism. So many missed the point. Design aesthetic is totally subjective, what one likes not everyone else will. No use in criticizing someone else's choice, it's what they like, we should respect it.
How did they make that much money to begin with, being so dopey to build such a stupid building?
No matter which way you turn it's always something.
AFTER 9 YEARS it doesnt look like they will ever come to resolve those issues because they already got YOUR MONEY !!!
Why would they agree to such an ugly place? And, for £415,000??? Crazy!
How can anyone be so kind?
You have to pay some one to tell you, you've been ripped off?
So sad.
someone paid to build THAT ugly house?
! I admire you two so much for going ahead with the repairs . You will eventually have a beautiful house to enjoy. I, too, built a house with architects' mistakes in many places, but on an ocean view lot. I had to sell, however, because I was a single parent with not enough capital to continue on. And then the interest rate jumped to 22% (in the 80's in America) so that pretty much did me in. Consider yourselves fortunate. It could be worse!
No matter what you do, lack of Cash will kill you. Cash is King, sad to say.
Just knock the ugly house down and sell to a developer. You could probably recoup your costs (at least in England) if you sell it to someone who will build a subdivision. The average British house is ridiculously expensive and due to the fact it's on 4 acres of land a developer could probably fit at least 32 British houses on it (1/8 of an acre lots)
I must say that they are a very determined couple. Would like to know how they and the buildings are today in March, 2019.
I would have sorted out the architect.
Foxes, toads and newts what more could you want ... I love it ...
I love how he's so positive. Wonderful to see
Name and shame?
The white building reminds me of my grandfathers chicken coop. The brown thing is a box with windows, just like a shoe box with a few openings. A lot of problems are coming from the construction and the people who built it. Just lime here in the US, all good craftsmanship is gone.
Materials are one of the most important factors to consider when designing a building. Since the early 90s we have seen an awful tendency to use inadequate materials just for the sake of design and edginess.
Using timber as an external structural component of the building is just nonsense, especially on the damp British weather.
We have wooden slatted, timber framed buildings in the UK that are over 250 years old. If you use the right timber and do regular maintenance, they have outlasted brick.
1. Architectural planning 2. Technical planning 3. Construction planning 4. have an inspector that checks every day whether the plan is implemented well, if not, have the day's work deconstructed and rebuilt. Most importantly, have contracts with planners, builders, inspectors to the fullest. And insurance. Learnt it the hard way, but second house is perfect. :-)
100% true.
RAIN 24/7.....!!!
The architecture firm still in business?
So so sad. Wish them the best.
Thanks.
Almost the ugliest two buildings I've ever seen.poor people.
Houses that size you'd be cleaning all day long. Personally after a life in the pub trade, working all day until 2 or 3 am I never want to clean again!! Now I have a 2 bedroom home a small kitchen, bathroom and downstairs wc. I am thinking in a few years I might actually move into a one bedroom flat, that'd do for me!
Beautiful couple - horribly designed homes.
Never put glass windows in aluminum frames.
Wrong . You CAN put glass in aluminium if you have plastic insulators . Just shows what you know.
@@738polarbear Well yes, then you're putting the glass in plastic, not aluminum. A lot of people don't. I worked for a law firm an file a demand letter complaining that a company did not do that. We won the case.
How many in their family? This is massive.
I feel very badly for the couple. They should be relaxing after working a lifetime.
The architect, who very clearly is the one in error here, was not qualified to do this and should have declined the project.
After watching far too many building programmes ( and I draw plans and spec for timber-frame builds), I can say If you adopt novel, non-traditional, cutting-edge methods, eventually you will regret it. Timber-frame needs very precise detailing, that must be followed. The £10k cedar cladding will go gray, the house will be a fortune to heat, the enviro-sedum flat roof will leak, the enviro heat-pump will pack up, the central-air heat exchanger will cost a fortune to replace, and the end result is that the re-sale will be extremely difficult.
Even if it's your Dream Home, build what other people will Love.
That`s the most horrible house design ever as people have said on here it looks like a warehouse, prison, community centre or hospital. Not a house where any sane person would want to live.
Best to stick to tried and tested housing construction methods.
Where are your roof vents?
They didn't put in vents?
what's the vents for. All homes have vents?, how about apartments, they have vents too?. I guess I have to watch videos: how to make a home.
When you build a house near "BATH" What did you expect? Next time build a house near the City "Dry" OK Ok
I'm amazed that they can be so jolly! Well done to them!
Apart from the appalling farm shed design, whoever the builder was who actually follow all the flawed drawings, without understanding all the designers mistakes, should not have carried on. The builder is totally at fault.
Poor man. Jesus you are the architect, please give this architect some help - amen. Awesome dude I'm truly gutted for this man.
1/2 million quid looks like very cheap materials used.
A case of an architects ego running away with him ,and it’s completely inappropriate for the environment. It looks like a prefab next to a large 70’s council house. The couple seem lovely and surprisingly laid back considering. I hope they finally get what they want-seen there’s a part two so.....
These people make it a home, no matter what some may think of the structure, it’s still home to them. I hope you get to enjoy your home.
Either, I need glasses or they do. I see a box with windows, something a three year old can build with Lego. Are these people serious?
Wow hideous buildings. I wonder how their neighbours reacted to the big builds. Also why didn't they look into the problem immediately and pursue it with an outside professional assessment of the water issue ?! Would have caught it before it sustained serious damage.
Always call the courts before you hire anyone you're doing contracting work with to see if they are being sued and why!
good advice.
Aluminum window frames in this day and age??
What a design! Would've been a real beauty had it been built proper.
hahahahahaha
Just demolish the second building and get on with enjoying your retirement, smh, otherwise you're going to be 98 years old by the time it's done!
Such nice people, but I think they should have put in a small cottage and a smaller guest house instead.
Easier to knock it down and start again. Cut your losses and stress.
They need ventilation. Why did the owners never notice that there wasn't ventilation? Also if they don't have roof gutters they wont ever solve the problem.
Yep, you don't need a surveyor to know their problem was ventilation. The roof gutters are most likely hidden at the bottom of the roof structure with the down pipes behind the shuttering.
So many horrible people commenting. I Hope everything has worked out for the owners of both houses. What a terrible thing to happen. I bet the architect was learning on their house.
Wow! That would be very disappointing! Thanks for sharing!
i don't think the architect is to blame, completely. They chose the crappy design, cheap box, no quality. just big. buy cheap....
Triedzi Dono, no the architect is to blame; he was responsible for creating a sound design.
Wow, sill plate is what that's called. Two, wow. Where was the building inspector? IDK about England but in MI they check for things like flashing, vapor barriers, and so on. It's part of the permitting process. Get a permit, do an inspection then move in. Maybe multiple inspections. Anyone with common sense would have figured that out day one.
yes ! ...AN INSPECTOR is not god ..... too often they get it wrong ...like the one who was "god" to my plumbers ...... plumbers who had to be called back ....NO SEWER VENT PIPE ..... and they charge how much ? !..... and HERE ( AUSTRALIA )it's illegal to do it yourself !!!!
Hope goes well for them, they seam a strong go getting couple, must have been hell to go all through that and still be going through it all that loss, most people split up, glad they are so nice, however the house is so ugly in such an idilic setting but its there dream and they rebuilt it togther x all the best
I don't understand how an engineer and arcquitech made this thing that does not look like home and besides so defective that you can not live there with all the mold. What they were thinking using wood on the bottom of the home in swamp area, but even so, homes should be made only with bricks or rocks. I hate homes made of wood. It's a hell in summertime or huge airconditioner bills. Gosh, I am just a humble high school graduate, I don't understand anything about home. but this construction is not home, it's a disaster. If I was his friend I would tell him: "are you sure you want this design?"
Good to keep your spirits up. 👍👍👍
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder !
Thank you, so many ignore this ruclips.net/user/redirect?event=comments&stzid=Ugw2wKazKjaZsUwzJjN4AaABAg.8u11p_CDmXP8u9IctPIsbP&html_redirect=1&redir_token=B1Uu6Bk9pRuBUOgmtKsgG8WEJMR8MTU1NzE0NzA3M0AxNTU3MDYwNjcz&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FenqOTPyVvoCypNT7B5%2Fgiphy.gif
who needs such a big barn ...unless your building an ark
Architects seem to be a law unto themselves! We got caught too by an Architect's "folly" - turning our simple design into a "castellated" behemoth that, while it was nice, virtually doubled the cost of the build!
A higher Power was telling you : This is too ugly to exist!
Does the UK have a better business bureau?
the uk dose not have the climate for timber framed homes cold wet hot rain snow all in 1 day..thats why we built the best castles in the world..
Traditional buildings are built that way,,Because they actually work,
ur in denial.. get rid off it and buy a little farm bungalow...or you going to mop up water until you pop ur clogs..
Here is a dilema, in this case who you sue? the engineer, or the architect, or the builder? or everybody?
The answer to that is straightforward:
The designer (architect) produces information (drawings)
The manufacturer (builder) makes whatever the drawings specify.
If something doesn't work, compare the product to the drawings, if the product is not to drawing the manufacturer is at fault, if the product is as drawn then its a design fault.
At least they both laugh I'd be crying my eyes out I hope everything works out good luck 😄❤️
Were they architects and has the practice been struck off the register of architects? If not architects they cannot be struck off the register.
She says , " I think we've put every plank up there "... well , you forgot one & he's standing next to you ......
Wayne andrews 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha!
not the sharpest tools in the shed are they? 10 years? fucking hell.
That house is hideously ugly. It looks like a factory outlet and is seriously out of place in that environment.
what is the name of the architect ?
Mr. Dedinaditch
Money attracts sharks pure and simple. You still have an amazing home though whilst other families have none at all
Wtf? Grand design?
Seriously, which PE's signed off on this?
S F, in the UK professional engineers are either chartered engineers or incorporated engineers, but the fault here did not lie with any engineer, it was the responsibility of an incompetent architect.
This is what you get when you separate the elements of Architecture Engineering and Building. Architects are just overpaid egotists who draw pretty things, usually without any engineering or building experience, and expect everything to work. Any builder could tell you this building isnt going to be weather-proof. Architects are like orchestral conductors, they get all the credit for the work of a composer and the players.....but often dont have any grounding the mechanisms and composition of the music.
helenrushful architects do important work. They create all floorplans and create the exteriors of homes and usually the interior design too. This architect did all of that poorly since the outside looks like crap, the inside looks like crap, and the floorplan is weird. In America we design houses well so we actually have nice faux traditional/colonial McMansions instead of that weird thing
As a builder, I agree with everything you say Helen, but would also add that they have no idea on cost either. They often end up designing a building they wish to see rather than specifically for a client and their location.
@@LucasFernandez-fk8se Don't worry. we have plenty of faux Georgian, footballers mansions, in the UK. This couple wanted a modernist "grand design" and put their trust in the wrong firm.
Shocking architect and builders to allow it to hpen
Was it not advertised as a WOODEN house? And they fell for that? In the UK where there is an excess of RAIN? WTF did they think would happen???? Good grief people are stupid!
These houses look horrific, how on earth did these get past planning?
The Man owner seems so intelligent when he lectures us about whats Wrong. So was he asleep during the building? Didn't he walk around inspecting it while it was being built? He annoys me. All he does is talk, but he only listens to himself. A NO IT ALL, who really is dumb.
Its nice to know I've annoyed you, the feeling is mutual. And no I didn't walk round it while it was being built, most of the time I wasn't in the same country, and you may not realise it but by law you have to ask the builder for permission to walk round a building site, even if you own the land.
@@aviator98 , not in America.
How can a so called qualified architect come up so such a heap of trash.
Unbelievable, he should never be allowed to work again .
How are these guys doing now? I'm a roofer do alot of timber work as well would be happy to offer my spare time
Have a look at the link from 4 yrs ago