I made a 95% 3D Printed Folding Ghost Gun
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- I made a TOY folding Glock 17. It is full size and uses standard Glock hardware. Pretty cool stuff, but this iteration is not quite ready for release.
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DISCLAIMER:
This is an informational video intended for education about a toy/model pistol. This is make believe and nobody should use it as a substitute for professional firearm training or instruction. Firearms are dangerous and you should always obey the four rules of firearm safety. Seriously, they will save your life and those around you.
Please be a law-abiding citizen. Know the rules and regulations of your local jurisdiction as they pertain to firearms and OBEY. Do not question the local authorities. You need to think of yourself the way that they think of you. You are the child and they are the parent. They are just trying to protect you and keep you safe. As the parental figures they determine what qualifies as safe. They make the decisions and you are not allowed to question that. 
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I was one of the engineers at Full Conceal that developed the folding glock back in 2017. You did a great job! I like how you used a thinner catch for the grip and cantilevers at the mag plate to secure it in a folded position. You did a similar thing as us using a torsion spring for the trigger to have it fold up and that really warmed my heart. Thank you for shouting us out! Mike and everyone there were great guys to work with and you helped me relive some very fond memories!
Can I ask how come Full Conceal went out of business? Was it lack of demand or other business issues?
@@DesignPrototypeTest We were a small team of 10 with a few of us assembling full time and sometimes we'd be all hands including engineers, CNC operators, and sales on assembling so sales seemed pretty strong for our small team. That's just what I saw in 2018 when I left due to health issues from a previous job so things could've slowed down. Kind of embarrassed to admit I've been a hermit ever since and haven't kept in touch so I don't know what happened. At the time we were modifying gen 3 glock 19s and having conversations about injection molding our own frames so I wonder which route the team took and if that plus 2020 is what made things unsustainable.
Thanks for that info. It's really interesting.
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Any design ideas you'd like to share?
I own a full conceal p80. it's a great design and is a conversation starter at the range. people that have seen mine ask about how and where I got it. I've got about 2k rounds or more on the frame. I switch uppers and shoot 9mm and 40 s&w. it's held up and works perfectly. good job 👏
"You wouldn't download a gun'
@@M2rsh it might seem crazy what im botta say
I wouldn't?
@@yochan4293 Sunshine she's here, you can take a break
You wouldn't print a gun
Sure would
Search warrant speedrun
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Why would you need 20 round gun
Fr why?
Unless you in the army
@@mesiroy1234 This is a stupid question. "Why would you take the better option for protecting yourself?" oh idk, maybe because its better to be safe than sorry?
@@mesiroy1234 To increase my chances of survival
@mesiroy1234 Why not? Since you haven't noticed already, everything in the world you own having more or less of those items is considered either good or bad. When it comes to this item having more is considered better. I shouldn't really have to explain this but you anti guns nuts are kinda slow
thanks to fosscad, by this time next year, all 3d printed glocks will be folding.
Probably only a few weeks/months for a real one to be printed.
well, that depends on the ability to actually stay assembled while firing, as we all know more moving parts means more failure points
@@flamingsteve5883 UV resin printing solves a lot of those problems
I shouldn’t even say this but my 19x lower took 2 ish days
@@392swim yeah we gotta shut our mouths i love talking about shit like this but i know i shouldn't lol Pssssst. mine took 4 days
Congratulations, if you visited this video, your name is probably on a list somewhere!
IKR? 😂
I've been "on the list" for years 😅
I subbed to the channel - that gets you on the premium watch list!
If you aren't on a list by now you doing something wrong
The ATF stands for "Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms", not "Autism, Techbros and Fundamentally Delusional". None of you are on a watchlist for seeing a clickbait video in which a man 3D printed a sub-par plastic shell for all the weapon parts he ordered off the internet from actual gunsmiths (now, he might be on a watchlist for buying those gunsmith-made parts).
Karen from Whiteville is on the list, however, for buying the lead pipe for her kitchen sink and the nails to repair that porch mosquito net frame. The wine mom is accidentally more of a subversive renegade that y'all will ever be.
You really called it a ghost gun, and made it ghost white.
That's the one thing I hate about 3D printing, getting your hands cut up constantly we're doing something completely normal and you just happen to catch that one sharp corner lol
Blood for the blood god!
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Same, just freaking random cuts that I don't know when and how, and always on my freaking left index finger! Like 10 cuts on it and nowhere else!
@@sillyguy5603 yeah I've gotten cuts on my fingers where I've never gotten cut before and boy does that**** hurt, like on the side of your finger where your nail starts
I remember that from noxanore
Oof, post production work
Yea we aren’t printing the slide 😂
Fax. only the body should be printed. the Mag and slide and internal pieces should be real.
@@theender6449 as he said. "this is how I can show this on youtube" AFAIK there is a version that is meant for part kits but he won't show that on youtube for obvious reasons with youtube cracking down harder again
I feel like this would break on the body
As long as you print it right you'll be fine printing the lower. The upper contains all of the pressure from the explosion so as long as that's metal you're good.
@@christopherdixon4472 no handle is being held togather by that flimsy switch, thats gonne break first shot
It's almost inevitable that with 3D printing, eventually every curious mind will wander to firearm tech. I tried to resist for a Long time, then a client informed me of a challenge and I ended up doing an entire rifle. 😁
I’d like to go into it but I’m still learning the basic stuff
I love the engineering behind firearms and I am fascinated with how all the little mechanical parts interact.
The german law however is very strict and basically anything barely resembling an actual gun is illegal.
There also has been a case, where a lipstick was classified as "a gun" in a court case, since the victim was made to believe it was the end of the barrel of a loaded gun.
Calling 3d printed firearms ghost guns give them a bad name, and the term "ghost gun" usually has a negative connotation
I think ghost gun is a good name for it if there was no metal involved, that way you can take them through metal detectors!
@@Vaznazza either you are joking or you dont know what you are talking about, ghost guns usually are just printed lowers, not the uppers. the barrel wouldnt survive and there are alot of finely machined parts that you need for the firearm to work
@TwistedEngineering I get that, but I'm just saying it would truly be a ghost gun if there were no metal parts involved. Obviously not possible currently as far as I know but with further technological advancements who knows that may someday become a reality. I was thinking maybe a super-hard ceramic would do the trick for the upper parts but I don't know how you would replace metal springs.
The Real Ghost gun is Totally 3D printed. Came out a decade ago or more.
@@Vaznazza well with some polymer based materials some engine builders are working on, it would actually be possible to make a all plastic firearm, it would just be incredibly expensive and would still probably break
The airsoft industry haven't released a folding Glock yet 👀👀
Neat design! It would be super awesome if you could do an airsoft BB version, where we could take the internals from an easily sourced commercial product and swap them over to the printed one.
cool idea
Probably not possible with off the shelf gearboxes
I was thinking the same thing. Once the files are available, that is what I plan to do. I think it can be done but I have not touched an air soft gun in years, so can't say for sure. But I definitely plan to try.
@@darkalleywaystudio3975Awesome, hope you manage to get it done. Subscribed!
Oh hey a video of a 3d printed toy gun, _proceeds to tell you his full medical history_
telling people not to actually shoot with it will only make them want to do it more XD
One funny thing I like about this is that it's literally just the FMG-9 without a stock.
Love the compliance
17rd is a standard capacity magazine, but you wasted no time and went to the _new_ standard of 10
Stay compliant, friends
30 rmd magazines are standard capacity in rifles. 17 rnd mags have been coming standard in Glocks since the '80s. Everybody knows that. I definitely misspok in the video. Their stupid agenda got into my brain and rotted my thinking. Next thing we know they're going to replace the name of the color brown and start calling it "diversity."
As i'm sure you know, there's 9x18 and 9x17 ammunition that would probably fit in the mag even with the resizing. But that would imply a very specific intent of going against your warnings. Still a pretty cool concept, reminds me of the old magpul FPG which had a similar functionality, but in a much bigger package.
You called a standard capacity magazine a “high capacity.”
You are right. I made a big mistake. G17 has had 17 round magazines since the '80s. Absolutely standard. Stupid narrative games and I fell for their ploy.
This screams like a glowy mistake...
It's not a mistake if some of your audience is in one of the round limited states.
What glock do you know that comes standard with a 22 round mag?
@DesignPrototypeTest we all fall victim to their manipulative double-speak from time to time. They control the language, they control the narrative.
Now you tell me. The Army told me in my twenties that I could walk through walls. At 59 i'm paying for it, hey will that setup work with a 2011 setup?
Yea I promise to not put the brick of grapes in a bucket of water with yeast and sugar 😂
Random idea here, but something that would be kinda neat would be a loop on the backplate that you could put a string through, and hang it out of your pocket for a faster draw.
So, that blade safety on the trigger isnt just to stop the trigger from being pulled incidentally. Its an inherent component to the drop safety mechanism of a Glock, and a major contributing factor to the M17 drop safety debacle. Your method of trigger actuation may be drop safe when folded because of the low mass of the actual "trigger" nub, but it could be something to consider when unfolded.
This is a fantastic point. You've educated me today. Thank you! I will endeavor to put a Small piece of geometry in the handle that will prevent the trigger from moving rearward in a drop scenario when it is in the folded position.
@@DesignPrototypeTest Hey, a second pair of eyes and ears rarely hurts!
I'd be more worried about the toy being open though. Locking the trigger nub when closed is a good idea too, but considering the most likely drop scenario is either fully open or mid opening, where the extra weight of the actual "trigger" is at play, that would be my main concern. You just don't want to have enough mass to overcome the sear through inertia when dropped, and that's what the blade safety stops. So perhaps trying to both lock it in place when closed, and also have a Smith & Wesson style hinged trigger system since it folds anyway? Maybe you could have the trigger and nub permanently connected through a pivot somehow (if that doesn't violate any patents) so that the top of the trigger acts as a physical block against the frame when folded, and when deployed still requires a small hinge motion to overcome a small shelf that would stop the trigger otherwise that way? Because the way the safety works is by both a) having a much lower mass than the rest of the trigger and transfer bar, which means it takes a LOT more of a sudden impact to move, and b) moving on a different axis to the rest of the trigger, so that a straight back jolt won't overcome it anyway. If you look at the trigger on both the S&W Sigma/SW9 and the M&P 1.0, you'll see what I'm talking about. And maybe you could incorporate a forward hinge in as well, with the pivot closer to the top of the trigger, and an ear on either side to fold back and impinge on the frame when folded. (Obligatory "I'm no engineer, just a rando on Al's Internet")
The locking catchment probably needs to be wide & progressive (more ratchet points to land in) with redundancy. If not a wide catchment, a twin catchment, with one longer than the other, to prevent fully delatching. It needs to be like a vehicle hood latch. If this device could fire a cartridge, most likely there would be thumb web pinching per cartridge. An outer rubber grip, slightly masking/shadowing the adjoining parts would work. Nice toy. At some point I will hear one growing in the other room. Thank you, Tim
Why do we have to play these games? So, with a Glock upper/barrel/rail kit and removing the mag tabs it will be RTG.
No comment.
@@DesignPrototypeTest RUclips is pretty awful about things despite not actually having any real understanding of those things.
designed as a toy, DESIGNED as a toy. you can put a nail in a nerf dart and make the spring stronger and it will be useful as a weapon, so...
Because it was DESIGNED as a toy. You need to put 2 and 2 together yourself if you want anything else
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"its ok for kids to print this up" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA then put it on makerworld :D
If they can even afford a printer 💀💀💀 7:10
@@Met4Master printer are relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things
@@yochan4293 OK but realistically what parent is going to try to buy the child a 3-D printer, cheapest one I saw was $100 but you get what you pay for (no hate just a question)
@@Met4Master Well I mean a PS5 is $500, has no inherient benefits for the kid (asides from an entertainment and maybe a social value depending on the way you look at it) but I am sure many kids own one (or a simular item), while for $250 for a pretty decent quality printer (ender 3 v3 ke is $239 pretax right now on their crealities store, you can look it up, its actually pretty good), and $120 you can buy 10kg of PLA filament ($110 pretax is the listed price for elegoo black PLA filament right now), so I suppose its pretty well in line with reality that kids could receive a printer, especially considering the inherent benefits of a kid owning one
@@Met4Master there are a ton of parents who would be THRILLED if their kid wanted a 3d printer rather than like, an Xbox.
looks amazing, I love printing toy replicas that fire the snap caps, Have a few and a few rubber band replicas as well but thought there would be more printable like that but either there isn't a lot or i just haven't been able to find them. Will defiantly print this if the files are released.
defiantly or definitely? xD
Very good video. I like the CZ inspiration. Ergos and function on the CZ make it my favorite automatic to shoot. Kinda unpleasant to carry with the exposed hammer and beavertail (even the Kriss Sphinx to some degree). It is good to see those ergos on a glock platform. Nicely done.
Love the new direction, great design, prototyping, and testing! lol
Finally living up to the channel name. :)
Lets gooooo. Little late seeing this great work continuing here. Looking forward to testing.
The mag reliefs remind me of cisco switches and now I have flashbacks.
I'm at 12:20 and got an idea. You could make the mag release a double sided, functioning button that would collapse the handle when both sides of the mag release are pressed. So basically, it would still function as a mag release when pressed, but only when the opposite side button is pressed in combination will initiate the fold for the gun. Just an idea! I don't know how farfetched that idea is mechanically to create the function but it was worth it to post in case it could help! Thank you for your time and efforts! This is amazing!!
These are the kind of videos we want to see! Awesome design and video man!
Amazing work! Love it! Definitely going to need to take some inspiration from this!
“You are the child and they are the parent.”
That disclaimer of yours is wild, my guy.
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Very interesting video and impressive design! 💪🏼
This is similar to a piece of concept art I made for a game that I was (still am) working on a couple of years ago. I had been wondering if a folding gun could actually work in real life. Cool gun! 👍
It's crazy that this could be useful if you have a parts kit for a Glock and a slide for you to use on it. I mean this is very useful for conceal carry and self defense rather than for offense
Thank you very much! Any idea when this will be available?
Very interesting project, you really did a great job.
It's the first time i get recommended a video of this subject and I love it.
There's a RUclipsr that's been working on a printed Glock slide with reenforcement rods.. It was having some extractor problems but it does cycle and I'm sure his design has improved since. You should look into it if you intend on actually making a fully printed version of this that can actually fire.
Ivan prints guns. He's way more than just a RUclipsr. He's responsible for about 50% of the FGC9. Also the inventor of the 3011. Megat talent. Super prolific.
@@DesignPrototypeTest I know who Ivan is. just didn't realize it was him. it's been a while since I seen the video.
I wonder why the other video was removed did it have some violations that you could not risk? Love the content!
I've been curating my channel. There's no sense keeping stuff around that isn't going to be evergreen content. It's just a liability.
Yo, this is exactly what I'm looking for a short film project. I would love to look at the model when it is ready for download. Great work =)
I love your Chanel fund your x channel I can get enough keep it up I’m learning so much thank you so much
I feel it wouldn't be that hard to remove certian parts of the toy to make another slightly diffrent shape toy mag load in
This is really cool. Good job!
where did you find the 3d printable dummy glock upper? WHy not print the rails and l;ock blocks too? WOuld be such a fun model to fully 3d print, including 3d printed springs/compliant mechanisms.
Wow! I have watched your channel off and on for a while now, and i never would have expected this! Great design, and i hope the finished replica holds up to the pressure. 😜 I can't wait to print this! Nice work, fellow Patriot!
4:00 Last I checked, Bourbon thins my blood and I don't need a prescription for Rx. 😉
Phenomenal work by the way. Instant sub! I can't wait to get my first 3D printer to make parts for my OneWheel.
nice model, great functionality. i couldn’t help but to respond to your comment on your condition. take care bro you seem like a nice guy im sorry you’ve gotta jump through hoops everyday. i send my best wishes to you my friend. take care 🤘🏾
Awesome job. Sorry to hear FVL, sucks brotha.
Stay on this! It's genius!
It's a good thing you didn't show an 11 round magazine, that could have caused someone to get brain damage.
Amazing! Can't wait for the toy design to be completed!
"don't get old if you can help it, it really sucks"
I prefer it to the alternative
Good point.
I love the design of the grip. I have a 17 & a 34, they are good but the grip has always been just a little different. Great job.
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So when will the files be available?
Will you be designing the glock parts kit for those of us non USA residents that dont have easy access to gun parts?
Great work!
The second your hand slipped I knew lol. Been there.
I've had DVT/PE and it was no fun. I had to take Warfarin for a long while till my protime was over 2.0 for a few tests. They then stopped the thinner. I do occasionally have it checked though! Sorry you have to deal with taking it every day. This is an incredible print!
Did you do expansion test on it , I know solid works has a good thermal analysis test . What's the max shots before micro Deformation of the 3d material you used ? You didn't a fantastic job at explaining, good contend .
SW simulation tools are very mid
I'm really in to it. Looking forward for final version. Keep it up !
Great toy/model.
It seems like an adult fidget toy given all the tactile clicks and clacks.
What CAD software do you work in?
Rhino3D
Thank you for sharing such a neat project with us :) have a blessed day
Now, an airsoft version would be nice
99 missed calls from the ATF
Very impressive! Love it.
Definitely interested in this. Even have a few spare rails sitting around. Do you think this could be tweaked to use G26/PF940SC rails?
G26 is the next model on the list.
Okay. I was skeptical at first, but your demonstration has me sold.
Love the video description last paragraph. 😛
tbh i'd dl the files for the current version as a fidget toy alone. i find this stuff super satisfying
A standard capacity magazine is 30 rounds. Anything under 30 I would call a low capacity magazine.
Where is the link to a full tear down?
Respect on the name of this video. RUclips really like to squash any channels with ghost gun content. I respect the drive despite how dumb it may be. 3d Print General got banned for making a documentary. It didnt actually show how to do anything but just explained and documented the community.
Great design!
Have you looked into a vielight device for preventing clots. The basic model is a intranasal red light used to break up clotting red blood cells and oxygenate the blood. They also have other applicators like blue light for preventing bacterial growth and infrared for deeper penetration. But you may be able to reduce the amount of blood thinners by using the device.
I love the second paragraph of your disclaimer 😂
That's neat man! Really good job.
Thank you kindly. I hope you have a wonderful day.
Any reason you didn't show any test-fires? If you mentioned it in the video, I didn't catch it...
This is RUclips. Also, I'm showing a toy. I have not made a version of this and actually fired a live round. That will happen when I send the metal parts to the beta testers. There will be a video.
I feel you on the blood clots. Had another one start last night. I don't have the factors, just problems with sitting to long for work and travel. Stay safe, man.
I saw a video before 3d printing toy launchers, it used hydrogen gas instead of gunpowder and the gun never broke (on video). Maybe it would be possible to make your small 3d printed cartridge to use it and shoot? (The youtuber who made these videos: Flasutie)
To fix the problem with the fake bullets catching on the ring that folds the handle and barrel @11:39 it might take a while but flipping the latch mechanism and putting a button underneath the ledge of the back of the barrel might work.
i love to see it, great work man.
This is amazing I can’t wait to see the finished product
Thanks for sharing! ❤
You are welcome. Have a great night!
Hella neat. This is pretty damn nice man. We should get it to take PY2A rails :)
This is absolutely brilliant, UF earned a subscribe❤
Thanks man! I really appreciate the compliment. I hope you have a great day.
Why not just use magnets for the holding mechanism
Good content, well made and well explained. Don't sweat the capacity thing, RUclips has it's own restrictions above and beyond any of the draconian states' restrictions.
Cool. Can you find an stl file for printing somewhere?
So is this intended for prop usage/as a toy, or will the final files be functional with metal barrels and as a workable firearm? I know the talk about the classification of the toy were to bypass youtube terms of service but I am now unsure myself haha
You should definitely check out my X/twitter account (Link in the description). Go to the "highlights" tab and you can see the history of this project. I think your questions will be answered there. Specifically the yellow handle.
@@DesignPrototypeTest appreciate the response, will check it out! Regardless of what it is, project is still exciting
Nice project, where i could get the files?
well.. im sold, next frame i make is gonna be a g19 folder
I don't think I will make a Glock 19 version. With the G17 you get a full length handle and it lines up perfectly when folded. A G19 is 3/4" shorter in the slide. Therefore, the handle will need to be 3/4" shorter as well. Thus chopping off about half of the pinky finger portion of the grip. It would be very awkward to hold with your pinky half on the grip. A G26 or G43 is even more compact (concealable) with shorter slides than a G19. The length of these is such that a folding version would have the handle missing the entire pinky finger portion of the grip. The pinky would come to rest on the magazine which is far less awkward.
will the pins be available ?
Do you plan on releasing the files? I would love to work on this and make one. This is pretty cool
Yes. Stay tuned!. But please be aware it has taken me a year to get to this point. I have no idea how much time it will take to release.
@@DesignPrototypeTest can you provide a link to "The Odd Sea" ? not showing up in search. thank you
@@DesignPrototypeTestlooking forward to seeing this sail when you’re done! I’m really glad to see this design idea make a resurgence
its a lifecard but bigger
Marvelous - you've changed the world
This was highly enjoyable content. Super interesting design. I would love to see an animated video of the cad model folding.
I hate the term Ghost Gun, a Ghost Gun is any unregistered gun, including ones that had their serial illegally removed.
This is a cool gun concept though.
Yankee Doodle is an incredibly insulting song about Americans. It is the state song of Connecticut. Before Game of thrones sucked Tyrion Lannister gave John Snow a lecture about embracing and proudly being the pejorative that people will call you. Like those descendants of African slaves in our country who call each other that word that white people aren't allowed to say.
The only way to transcend emotionally charged language like "ghost gun" is to make it a joke and apply it to toys. Make the word lose all meaning.
Kind of like "Liberal." Which shares a common origin to words which mean freedom. Liberate the slaves. Libertarian. Liberty, etc. and yet somehow liberal is the name we give to people who want to take away the freedom to bear arms.
You are correct. There is no such thing as a ghost gun. Which just means that the term can be used to describe anything. I had a hot dog for lunch which didn't have a serial number on it: Ghost Gun.
maybe the grip can have a slider on the back of it with some resistance on it, like from a spring. so you can slide it down to fold the grip instead of the current mechanism inside of the grip. the slider can have ridges to make it easier to slide down and fold the grip back.
Hey! This is a cool idea. I hadn't thought of a slider instead of a pivot catch. It might be possible. I'm going to explore this option. Thank you.
i remembered a joke about printing guns from years ago.. they predicted the future