Great one! I never forgot him after reading about the Lin Biao incident and the takedown of the Gang of Four in a book called “The 10 Great Marshals” when I was a child. It drove me to find out more on Huang Yongsheng, Qiu Huizuo, Wu Faxian, Li Zuopeng, etc.
I actually cannot express how genuinely criminaly underated this channel and video actually is and this world and community actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and you actually couldn't have said this any better and you actually couldn't have described him any better.
So he was kinda like the Chinese Malenkov. It's interesting how dissent, protest and opposition were and are displayed in China in such subtle ways like placing glass bottles and using word play.
As someone raised in China and taught this in class- this is very thorough. Teachers did tease him a bit but there was a greater focus on the role of the gang of four through all this
I was literally re-watching your other videos last night and was wondering when the next one would be out. So stoked to watch this. Thank you and please don't ever stop making them. You're both informative and also fun to watch. I love the graphics you use and how you present the content.
Hey man I just wanted to drop a comment to say this is awesome, such an underrepresented thing on RUclips to see a video essay about china that’s trying to tell a story honestly instead of trying to make a point. I also want to say that this was well made and well narrated. Please keep making videos about whatever interests you because your videos are both good and different from most “video essayists”. Much appreciation, Henrik
Some very facinating stuff! After watching your video on Vinylon and satellite analysis I became more interested in the Communist East, and I hope you continue to make videos on these niche topics.
One correction, Deng was not a capitalist at all. His goal was always socialism, he just believed in allowing limited capitalism in some areas of China to modernize the economy in preparation for socialism.
his goal wasn't capitalist he only just privatized and marketerized the whole economy, but that will lead to socialism in the future for sure... If he had any socialist intentions he could have atleast moved towards the market socialist model of yugoslavia so that the workers had any powers, but he didn't. He just moved China from idk how to describe mao's china, not socialist or capitalist, towards just capitalism but with a stronger state that can prosecute capitalist if they really feel like it.
Always a good day when Ceramic uploads, consistently good videos with the right amount of information an the right amount of humor. Cant wait to see the future projects that are coming.
Heyyy Ceramic!!! I started to watch ur vids since the release of your video about war time websites! I really like ur vids and I recommended to my classmates. I'm from PRC and I'm glad you talk about the modern history about my country, and I like ur content is not as same as other youtubers only talks about Evil Mao, but you talks about other politic figures that other youtubers rarely talks about!!! I suggest you to make a vid about Lin Biao, one of the 'Four Gangs' in the Cultural Revolution in China which supposed to be Mao's successor but died in a escape after he faild to coup Mao (571 project). I love ur vids and especially about the North Korea ones. Good Job!
Amazing video, there isn't nearly enough information out there on Chairman Hua's stint in power. He essentially gets boiled down to a footnote or as having been a lackey of Deng, which isn't at all accurate. He was quite the complex figure and it's great to have learned a bit more about him here.
0:57 Real "Translator's Note: Keikaku means plan" moment lol Its so funny seeing a simple word like "connections" get elevated to such a point that it feels like a significant and distinct concept lol
Just discovered this channel, wanted to say this was one of the most coherent, engrossing, concise, and informative video essays I've ever seen on any topic
13:46 imagine if a Western country like I don't know Australia made a aircraft manufacturing company and called it government aircraft factory LOL 14:45 stop spoiling history i'm watching type 56 & it hasn't got to that part yet
I love your channel Ceramic and this is a wonderful video but you make many mistakes I feel obligated to show you. Your research is deep and within the context of the video, all is fine. But when you go onto tangents and out of topic definitions you start to mistakenly describe terms and realities. Firstly: you use Maoism incorrectly throughout the video. I think you mean "whatever Mao did" as your definition of Maoism. Which isn't what it is. China nor Mao Zedong was ever Maoist. That is a Peruvian ideology. Mao Zedong was Marxist-Leninist and his contributions to this ideology is called Mao Zedong Thought. China is still following Mao Zedong Thought and has never strayed from it. If we talk about Maoism as if it's whatever Mao did, then that would be an incredibly foolish ideology. Times change and along with it, policies. Completely and dogmatically emulating everything Mao did is neither Marxist, nor actually Maoist, as Mao himself fiercely opposed dogmatism and what he calls "book worship". This contradiciton is vital. Second: The Great Leap Forward was not a failure. The point of the GLF was not having less deaths and birth. It was to catapult the productive forces of the country to new heights, which was successful. The fault of the policy was the tragedy of the famines and the deaths that followed. We can see the merit of the policy while acknowledging the faults. Whether it was worth it or not is subjective. Third: You call Deng Xiaoping a pragmatist capitalist. Excuse me but that is an incredible insult to both capitalism and Deng Xiaoping for you misrepresent both. Need I remind you he was the one in charge during Tiananmen Square riots? If he was a capitalist roader, why didn't he give in then? Deng Xiaoping fought all his life alongside the communist party. He fought in the Civil War and in WW2 courageously for his country and for communism. The communist party was not a monolith nor was "whatever Mao did" the only and single way communism was understood and characterised. The problem here starts from your misunderstandings about communism. I'll get to it clearly. You make another mistake about Deng Xiaoping when saying his vision was new. His vision was anything but new. Instead he was actually a conservative in his economic policy. As he says: "Perhaps Lenin had a good idea when he adopted the New Economic Policy" -Reform Is the Only Way For China to Developed Its Productive Forces, 1985 Communism has never been "no market". Within the Principles of Communism by Engels, Principle 17, private property, thus, markets were always supposed to be a part of the early stages of communism. In fact this was supposed to be the norm in even the most developed countries. A country like China during the 1960s for Marx's sake was not in any way fit to take out private property. Lenin in his "The New Economic Policy And The Tasks Of The Political Education Departments, October 17, 1921" and "Role and Functions of the Trade Unions Under The New Economic Policy, January 12, 1922" talks about the concept of private property, capitalists, bourgeois elements and communism working together. He talks about this briefly in the State and Revolution as well. Moreover, Mao himslef has said in his "ON STATE CAPITALISM, July 9, 1953": "The present-day...economy in China is a capitalist economy which...is under the control of the People's Government...is linked with the state-owned socialist economy in various forms and supervised by the workers. It is not an ordinary but a particular kind of capitalist economy...a state-capitalist economy of a new type. It exists not chiefly to make profits for the capitalists but to meet the needs of the people and the state. ...this state-capitalist economy of a new type takes on a socialist character to a very great extent and benefits the workers and the state." Fourth, your video implies the party was engaging in a weird political battle when in fact you yourself make it clear the country was in turmoil of a legal kind. The communist party, stated by it's constitution, a Marxist-Leninist party, first by the Gang-of-Four, engaged in absolutely non-Marxist practices of spiritual idealism, by the way of governing through "vibes" instead of dialectical analysis, and then by the way of the Two Whatevers, dogmatism. Not even mentioning how by law they were comitting crimes due to unlawful conduct. Deng Xiaoping, an incredibly respected comrade, so respected, was personaly reinstated to the party by Mao several times, persuaded the party using theory. I recommend you check his archive. As he says: "Comrade Mao Zedong himself said repeatedly that some of his own statements were wrong". I'm sure you cannot surely call someone a pragmatist capitalist just because they dared to question communist theory and developed it. Communist theory has been revised by even Marx and Engels himself. In your other videos you also imply China is no longer communist. I recommend you read "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners" along with "Principles of Communism" by Frederich Engels and the Communist Manifesto. You can see that China is absolutely in line with the fundementals of communism. Lastly, you imply Deng's contributed to a free-er press and information era. This is absolutely incorrect as Deng himself wanted to crush these events which he called counter-revolutionary. He just didn't want to do it by arresting people. "Beyond all doubt, schools should always attach first importance to a firm and correct political orientation." in "Speech At the National Conference On Education, 1978" and "a person in charge of the preparatory group for the formation of the local federation of writers and artists talked a lot of nonsense...To put it in a nutshell, these people want to abandon the road of socialism, break away from Party leadership and promote bourgeois liberalization." in "Concerning Problems On the Ideological Front, 1981". Cheers!
A little more information dense than my usual videos, but I hope you enjoy it.
Got a Discord set up, check it out! discord.gg/zPjhcWx2R8
Great one! I never forgot him after reading about the Lin Biao incident and the takedown of the Gang of Four in a book called “The 10 Great Marshals” when I was a child. It drove me to find out more on Huang Yongsheng, Qiu Huizuo, Wu Faxian, Li Zuopeng, etc.
I actually cannot express how genuinely criminaly underated this channel and video actually is and this world and community actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and you actually couldn't have said this any better and you actually couldn't have described him any better.
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So he was kinda like the Chinese Malenkov. It's interesting how dissent, protest and opposition were and are displayed in China in such subtle ways like placing glass bottles and using word play.
As someone raised in China and taught this in class- this is very thorough. Teachers did tease him a bit but there was a greater focus on the role of the gang of four through all this
What a video. So well researched and nuanced I love it. Discovering youtube channels like this before they blow is the best!
I was literally re-watching your other videos last night and was wondering when the next one would be out. So stoked to watch this. Thank you and please don't ever stop making them. You're both informative and also fun to watch. I love the graphics you use and how you present the content.
I got it! Your video format reminds me of this video, which I also love: ruclips.net/video/v8EQllZFqLg/видео.htmlsi=r0s2p0ZUJA2cj9fp
Hey man I just wanted to drop a comment to say this is awesome, such an underrepresented thing on RUclips to see a video essay about china that’s trying to tell a story honestly instead of trying to make a point. I also want to say that this was well made and well narrated. Please keep making videos about whatever interests you because your videos are both good and different from most “video essayists”. Much appreciation,
Henrik
Some very facinating stuff! After watching your video on Vinylon and satellite analysis I became more interested in the Communist East, and I hope you continue to make videos on these niche topics.
Great video as always! So nice seeing your channel grow
The intro is exactly what I've been thinking and I heard about the guy only once before.
Here when 2,1k views 6,61 subs
absolutely love this video. its rare to see content with this much nuance and attention to detail on such a topic. keep em coming
One correction, Deng was not a capitalist at all. His goal was always socialism, he just believed in allowing limited capitalism in some areas of China to modernize the economy in preparation for socialism.
Deng believed in achieving socialism in stages rather than a great leap forward.
his goal wasn't capitalist he only just privatized and marketerized the whole economy, but that will lead to socialism in the future for sure... If he had any socialist intentions he could have atleast moved towards the market socialist model of yugoslavia so that the workers had any powers, but he didn't. He just moved China from idk how to describe mao's china, not socialist or capitalist, towards just capitalism but with a stronger state that can prosecute capitalist if they really feel like it.
Always a good day when Ceramic uploads, consistently good videos with the right amount of information an the right amount of humor. Cant wait to see the future projects that are coming.
Heyyy Ceramic!!! I started to watch ur vids since the release of your video about war time websites! I really like ur vids and I recommended to my classmates. I'm from PRC and I'm glad you talk about the modern history about my country, and I like ur content is not as same as other youtubers only talks about Evil Mao, but you talks about other politic figures that other youtubers rarely talks about!!! I suggest you to make a vid about Lin Biao, one of the 'Four Gangs' in the Cultural Revolution in China which supposed to be Mao's successor but died in a escape after he faild to coup Mao (571 project). I love ur vids and especially about the North Korea ones. Good Job!
Really incredible video, I hope you keep this up. This is amazing stuff
I was subscribed but I can’t believe i forgot to turn on channel notifications! Love your work dude really hoping the channel blows up 🙌🏻
suprised your videos dont get more views, this is great!
Amazing video, there isn't nearly enough information out there on Chairman Hua's stint in power. He essentially gets boiled down to a footnote or as having been a lackey of Deng, which isn't at all accurate. He was quite the complex figure and it's great to have learned a bit more about him here.
Woah GETchan??? Thank you so much!
Very informative with great sources, good job keep it up!
Great video. Always thought this guy just was desperate to be Mao 2 and never thought about it deeper than that
0:57 Real "Translator's Note: Keikaku means plan" moment lol
Its so funny seeing a simple word like "connections" get elevated to such a point that it feels like a significant and distinct concept lol
Thank you, I apperciate your content keep it up
GOAT channel
Love this channel, and love China. Great vid, keep it up 同志。
I absolutely love this content, looking at the cracks between the stones
quality stuff. If your channel were a stock i'd invest my entire portfolio in it and watch it go to the moon
Great video my man
Nice video!
One of the greatest video essays made by a westerner about this unknown paramount leader.
It's not much of a competition when there's only like 2 of such videos.
It’s so funny how this guy even during his short reign ended up creating even more propaganda (posters, art, etc) than Mao did
Awrsome!! More obscure chinese and soviet history pls!!!!!
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Great video! Please if you can invest in a better microphone though.
Already gooned to the vid
Why do you say these things
FUCK HE BEAT ME TO IT
hes too far goon
@@TutorialsMinecraft2 not goon enough
im stroking my shit rn
This is goated lmao 🔥🔥
Superb content on something I would love to have been looking for. Xiexie.
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Nice video, you should read Dongping Han
As someone named Hua I was born on the year he died ❤
the video is cool, but your absolutely amazing taste in background music was very distracting :)
Just discovered this channel, wanted to say this was one of the most coherent, engrossing, concise, and informative video essays I've ever seen on any topic
Can you make a video about Deng Xiaopeng?
top tier vid
*overused social credit joke* , really though, great video to have watch and even take notes on for further research
Mao ain't the only one who was stabbed in the back.
Good in depth modern chinese history on RUclips that isn't propaganda or Wikipedia paraphrase what is this?!
banger
Lenin's note part 2:
9:05 “did you actually translate this?”
你真的翻译了这个吗？
cool video ^.^
13:46 imagine if a Western country like I don't know Australia made a aircraft manufacturing company and called it government aircraft factory LOL
14:45 stop spoiling history i'm watching type 56 & it hasn't got to that part yet
The only time i have heard of him is from a video game "China:Mao's legacy".
Bro literally took over after one of the most monstrous dictators to exist and everyone forgot about him
Thats wild
I think people forget him because his face looks like mao. So people get him confused.
Only the real ones know about Hua
I can’t tell if it’s a good thing or a bad thing if private property was reestablished.
Of course, why would a good guy ever become successor.
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Lin Biao next.
China's Malenkov
Can you pretty please with Chinese cheese make a video on commissars in communist militaries?
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I love your channel Ceramic and this is a wonderful video but you make many mistakes I feel obligated to show you. Your research is deep and within the context of the video, all is fine. But when you go onto tangents and out of topic definitions you start to mistakenly describe terms and realities.
Firstly: you use Maoism incorrectly throughout the video. I think you mean "whatever Mao did" as your definition of Maoism. Which isn't what it is. China nor Mao Zedong was ever Maoist. That is a Peruvian ideology. Mao Zedong was Marxist-Leninist and his contributions to this ideology is called Mao Zedong Thought. China is still following Mao Zedong Thought and has never strayed from it. If we talk about Maoism as if it's whatever Mao did, then that would be an incredibly foolish ideology. Times change and along with it, policies. Completely and dogmatically emulating everything Mao did is neither Marxist, nor actually Maoist, as Mao himself fiercely opposed dogmatism and what he calls "book worship". This contradiciton is vital.
Second: The Great Leap Forward was not a failure. The point of the GLF was not having less deaths and birth. It was to catapult the productive forces of the country to new heights, which was successful. The fault of the policy was the tragedy of the famines and the deaths that followed. We can see the merit of the policy while acknowledging the faults. Whether it was worth it or not is subjective.
Third: You call Deng Xiaoping a pragmatist capitalist. Excuse me but that is an incredible insult to both capitalism and Deng Xiaoping for you misrepresent both. Need I remind you he was the one in charge during Tiananmen Square riots? If he was a capitalist roader, why didn't he give in then? Deng Xiaoping fought all his life alongside the communist party. He fought in the Civil War and in WW2 courageously for his country and for communism. The communist party was not a monolith nor was "whatever Mao did" the only and single way communism was understood and characterised. The problem here starts from your misunderstandings about communism. I'll get to it clearly. You make another mistake about Deng Xiaoping when saying his vision was new. His vision was anything but new. Instead he was actually a conservative in his economic policy. As he says:
"Perhaps Lenin had a good idea when he adopted the New Economic Policy" -Reform Is the Only Way For China to Developed Its Productive Forces, 1985
Communism has never been "no market". Within the Principles of Communism by Engels, Principle 17, private property, thus, markets were always supposed to be a part of the early stages of communism. In fact this was supposed to be the norm in even the most developed countries. A country like China during the 1960s for Marx's sake was not in any way fit to take out private property. Lenin in his "The New Economic Policy And The Tasks Of The Political Education Departments, October 17, 1921" and "Role and Functions of the Trade Unions Under The New Economic Policy, January 12, 1922" talks about the concept of private property, capitalists, bourgeois elements and communism working together. He talks about this briefly in the State and Revolution as well. Moreover, Mao himslef has said in his "ON STATE CAPITALISM, July 9, 1953":
"The present-day...economy in China is a capitalist economy which...is under the control of the People's Government...is linked with the state-owned socialist economy in various forms and supervised by the workers. It is not an ordinary but a particular kind of capitalist economy...a state-capitalist economy of a new type. It exists not chiefly to make profits for the capitalists but to meet the needs of the people and the state. ...this state-capitalist economy of a new type takes on a socialist character to a very great extent and benefits the workers and the state."
Fourth, your video implies the party was engaging in a weird political battle when in fact you yourself make it clear the country was in turmoil of a legal kind. The communist party, stated by it's constitution, a Marxist-Leninist party, first by the Gang-of-Four, engaged in absolutely non-Marxist practices of spiritual idealism, by the way of governing through "vibes" instead of dialectical analysis, and then by the way of the Two Whatevers, dogmatism. Not even mentioning how by law they were comitting crimes due to unlawful conduct. Deng Xiaoping, an incredibly respected comrade, so respected, was personaly reinstated to the party by Mao several times, persuaded the party using theory. I recommend you check his archive. As he says: "Comrade Mao Zedong himself said repeatedly that some of his own statements were wrong". I'm sure you cannot surely call someone a pragmatist capitalist just because they dared to question communist theory and developed it. Communist theory has been revised by even Marx and Engels himself. In your other videos you also imply China is no longer communist. I recommend you read "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners" along with "Principles of Communism" by Frederich Engels and the Communist Manifesto. You can see that China is absolutely in line with the fundementals of communism.
Lastly, you imply Deng's contributed to a free-er press and information era. This is absolutely incorrect as Deng himself wanted to crush these events which he called counter-revolutionary. He just didn't want to do it by arresting people. "Beyond all doubt, schools should always attach first importance to a firm and correct political orientation." in "Speech At the National Conference On Education, 1978" and "a person in charge of the preparatory group for the formation of the local federation of writers and artists talked a lot of nonsense...To put it in a nutshell, these people want to abandon the road of socialism, break away from Party leadership and promote bourgeois liberalization." in "Concerning Problems On the Ideological Front, 1981". Cheers!
Communist history be like:
Amusingly long name campaign begins
Thousands die
Quick explain what the mode of production and DOTP is
Butthurt commie lol @@Battlesthegolden