Let’s be honest this was never a fight it was a public execution of the other two films while pointing at Del toro’s and screaming “this is how it’s done!”
For all the stuff the Disney one got wrong, at least it was the basic story and characters of Pinocchio. A True Story was just a scrambled mess of animation with a popular name added at the last second. It's this generation's Tentacolino.
@@viviennemorgan7217 and one of those deaths had him being executed by mussolini's order. It's plain insanity but also briliant. Imagine saying this to a friend "Hey remember that pinocchio movie where musolini ordered pinocchio's execution because he told musolini to eat crap ?"
The thing I love about Del Toro’s version is how janky and almost nonhuman Pinocchio moves at the start, as that is basically how a actual wooden puppet would probably move if had no strings or supports attached to it and had to learn how to move it’s self. I also just love the fact they turned the fairy into a biblically accurate angel
The way you described the Guillermo del Toro version makes it sound beautiful & very deep. It is now one of my favourite movies ever! I swear that it could’ve just as easily been called “Pinocchio and the Meaning of Life”, seeing how it opens & ends with a pine cone, a symbol of life & death. The way Pinocchio himself inspires Candlewick & Spazzatura to stand up to abusive figures (the Podesta or Count Volpe respectively), or Geppetto to let Carlo go. He became the hero they all needed (especially Candlewick to be honest, as he knew more about being human than his father ever has or ever will). The way you described Pinocchio himself as a metaphor for art that lives on is so beautiful & should inspire people to come. It is art at a time where most movies today are made just to make money. By at least 2032 (when it would be 10 years old), I would love “Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio” to be preserved into the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress.
I listen to what this youtuber said about Del Toro's Pinocchio and it's core message about making choices, to teach lessons that'll endure others before our time on this little planet clocks out got me right here. Lemme give a little info about myself. A few years ago, I was looking through nostalgic content and lost media when I came across this page about a cancelled crossover film that was to star 90s Nicktoons (in the styles of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Lego Movie, and Wreck-it-Ralph) and I was so hooked that I began commenting on how IMO it may have or could work. I believe that was when it sparked something in me, to pitch these stories about rides, escapades; et cetera. I believe the first pitch treatment I ever produced was a crossover between Good Burger and Spongebob, where Plankton steals an oil drum filled to the brim with Ed's sauce after the many fails of trying to obtain the Krabby Patty Formula and Ed and Dexter go under the underwater world of Bikini Bottom to retrieve it; hilarity ensues. But I then lost interest and moved on to making two [incomplete] fanfics starring Popeye and company, one of them revolving around the opening of Universal's Islands of Adventure, featuring characters like The Cat In The Hat, Betty Boop, even Marvel legend himself Stan Lee was gonna be there. Currently, I've been working on a little tale that's in the early stages of treatment; hope I'm able to finish it, but in case you're wondering, it's a fanfic for Project: Playtime, spinoff to Poppy Playtime. P.S. There were also several other stories I had in mind, but they never came far through brainstorming. One of which is an AAHHH! Real Monsters crossover with the Ghostbusters (not referring to the cartoons) with the Ghostbusters finding themselves in an alternate reality where monsters indeed exist. Paranormal activity involved. P.P.S. There was also going to be a rendition of Elizabeth Van Lew's time during the American civil war, replacing the real people with the cast from Pepper Ann. P.P.P.S. Now that I think about it, the first two fanfics pitches I ever produced were the "Ernest & The Simpsons" and "Men In Scissorbeetles/Scissorjuice," with the latter being about the Men In Black during a secret mission gone wrong, accidentally stepping onto a teleporter that transfers both agents into separate universes. But here's the thing: the teleporter was able to trigger some kind of reaction that has both our protagonists (well, one of them an anti-hero) Beetlejuice and Edward Scissorhands, who Beetlejuice refers to as "Ed" or "Eddie," take the agents place in another attempt to fulfill this failed mission. I even considered have Pee-Wee Herman joining them or being just an honorable mention (or a dishonorable mention, in Beetlejuice's case, given how he had great trauma from the time he tried to manipulate Pee-Wee into saying his name repeatedly and he succeeded, but at a cost of lasting for a few weeks of annoying talking furniture, singing little kiddie songs (views them as s**t), and the ear-grating laughter of said customer), or just a small cameo.
I'd also add in the 2018 vs as it's definitely the darkest of them all. Honestly I don't know what is the best as all are going to be timeless classics.
A. thank you for giving me more respect for the classic Disney version. b. when I first saw the Guillermo Del Toro version I thought Pinocchio's face looked like Spud from Bob the Builder
Me: I prefer the 2022 Disney remake since it at least try to something extortionatary and I still love it since I can see both versions of pleasures island happen there they just cut off the acoole and smoking in this one because im pretty sure they would have them to do in real life when children still shouldn't do that even if it is for acting out the original flim which also is proven since if child actors actually did drank & smoke in real life when filming they might end up in the hospital or worse My Pachirisu: And then Disney would have suffered a even worse fate then the unfair box office results this movie unfairly got My Fennekin ( Fenn ): it was actually flim in real life camera ls in real life My Pikachu: respect our opinion please 1st Disney 2022 2nd Gellamo del toro 3rd ( last place ) A Ture story
del toros was the best because above all else he had passion about it. its something he deeply desired to make for damn near a decade. he appreciates all the production members who also put their heart and soul into it and goddammit he fucking has a deep love for all forms of art.
The artist and his creation analysis from Del Toro's version is something I didn't even think about as I watch this movie over and over. As someone who has a life long passion for art, but has a professional career far away from anything similar, returning back to it has always been so terrifying. This movie already helped me to rethink about loss, grief, and death that had defined the beginning of my adulthood. And this additional messaging on art and artists... I needed this movie in my life. I love it so much. 🥺
Regarding the "True" story of Pinocchio - I'm surprised you left out the scene where the cat flat out shoots him. That's a "WHAT?!?!?!" moment if I ever saw one. That said, the Del Toro version was so amazing, and just seeing a few shots of the ending in your review brought the tears back. I found it breathtakingly beautiful, uniquely original, and almost perfect (the songs in the early part of the film felt shoehorned in IMO but this is such a minor quibble). It was so worth all the years it took to get here.
It’s Interesting the way astroboy had effect on future pinocchio adaptations with the idea that Pinocchio was pretty much a made because of a father grieving over his dead son.
Russian Pinnocchio be like: -Walts in -Shits out a bad movie -Curses humanity with the existence of fruity Pinnocchio -Claims its the "true story" (aka lie) -Refuses to elaborate -Leaves
27:06 and thus I'd still do think Guillermo Del Toro's version of Pinocchio is the better version both visually and literally with it's morals and great characters and Great stop motion animation this is the Best version of Pinocchio
I never thought of Pinocchio in Del Toro's movie as an allegory for art. But... it makes so much sense ! And the message is especially relevant now more than it ever will be, thanks to the tragedy of AI generated images eating more and more of the art industry. Art is finally becomming the puppet, when its strings used to be free. Make art, people.
great breakdown of the movies, really enjoyed seeing what were your thoughts on the original pinocchio and why was it so wonderful. it's a video worth of ending the year on. now all we need is a puss in boots 2 video.
Wow, that reading of Del Toro's Pinocchio as a metaphor for art someone puts in the world was gorgeous. It even ties in nicely with the role of constructive naughtiness and rebellion in its story. Your breakdown of the clock scene got me thinking that what I got out of it and the early scenes with Gepetto was more that Gepetto is an adult who has never had a child. He's creative and has a childlike quality, nurturing instinct, and love to give, but he's likely never actually done the hard work of raising a human. He's never had to childproof his home or workshop (full of delicate machinery, tools, fire and a GUN), and while he is a good caretaker of a cat and fish, with Pinocchio he's in over his head and naive (at least walk your kid to school for the first time the day after he's just born!). Which makes the contrast with Del Toro all the more interesting because that Gepetto HAS raised a child, but one who died young and remained a perfect angel in his memory. His challenge is very different, but both of them go through the terrible joy a child can bring.
Videos like this are why you're one of my favorite reviewers :) You put into perspective things that I remember about watching the original Disney adaptation of Pinocchio and never realized before; the characters (whether they be heroes or villains), scenes, and other aspects and really showcase what makes the original so special And yeah, what you said about people creating things is important. We do need people to showcase their creativities. Even if someone has worries that it won't look as good as they thought, they won't know what to improve on if they don't try; and trying is often the bravest and most beautiful thing a creative person can do :) Thank you for putting this out for us, Finn. May 2023 be a safe, happy, fulfilling, and productive year for you and the people you hold close to you.
In 2022 we also got 2 other versions of Pinocchio, Puss in Boots the last wish that even had Gepeto and the Cricket and another Pinocchio in Part 6 JoJo as part of the Bohemian Rhapsody arc.
Del Toro's take demonstrates the importance of the Public Domain as much as the classic fairy tale adaptations created by Walt Disney himself. It would have been a disaster as far as adaptions went for that year had the Disney corporation been the only entities legally allowed to make derivative material for Pinocchio.
Let me say something about the Pauly Shore take. As a Russian by blood, this is not the country's best nor groundbreaking achievement. It made me confounded and dumbstruck that they usually make their films and series with optimism, care, time and dedication. In fact, Yuri Norshtein, one of Russia's prolific and influential animators and storytellers, has dedicated his whole life, alongside his wife and artist whom works for him, to make an animated film that is still in production for 40 years and they were still working on it! Russia's films and series has a lot of words to describe them individually. They are philosophical, satirical, witty, funny, heartwarming, tense, optimistic, bitter, sweet, tragic, charming, haunting, educative, loveable, beautiful, cute, down to earth, imaginative, fantastical, wonderful, deep, thought provoking and memorable. They DO NOT make films and series that they preach about communism. They most CERTAINLY do not. They tell personal stories and also adapt stories from everywhere else, even US. Rather it be folk tales, short stories, fairy tales, children's novels etc. Talking of which here are two recommendations that is about them. One is a 15 part documentary series called "Кто нарисовал нас?" or "Who drew us?" which it tells the history of Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian and Estonian animation. You can find it on RUclips. The other recommendation is a website, "Animation Obsessive", in which it has a lot of stories, both biographical and behind-the-scenes, of animated films and series of the Russian animation industry. You can simply type, Animation Obsessive, to find it. Before I can finish this comment, I wanted to say something. Russian animation, alongside US, Canada, UK, France, Italy (both recently), a hint of Czech, Poland and China and also Japan were all apart of my life. I cannot imagine how I came about without them. That's all there is, there isn't anymore.
The fixies was a beautifull Heart Breaking experience to watch! I chould not agree more with what you just Said the Way They Fixed The lamp must have Been one of the most amazing scenes in film history! 🤣 But jokes aside thats really impressive!
@@danielsvetlichny5721the Nightlight have allways Been my personal favorite even the title is a poem! Absolutey amazing it was really hard not to shed a few tears doing the ending! But seriously! 40 years?! My gosh
Disney's live action remake is definitely the worst one by far imo. Like it has no soul, it's boring and it's plot is botched and not to mention how Honest John and Gideon look like roadkill
3:53 Finally! Someone who loves the original as much as I do. I have never smiled so much in my entire Life and I am so happy that you are only saying good things about it so that everybody can know that the 1940 Pinocchio is a masterpiece!
Thanks for pointing out that clock thing. They aren't just to keep time, they're individuals with roles and choices, they represent a living, breathing town, even they're just wood on a movement loop.
I never really found the 1940 version to a liking when I was a kid (mostly of the donkey scene that traumatized me) but the way you analyzed human uniqueness from Jiminy to Geppetto along with the actions and choices make us human which leads to the “I’m a real boy” scene, was such an eye opener, and gave me a beautiful interpretation of the film
Everyone knew the message about Pinocchio, but you broke it down in a way I could never come up on my own. I'm gonna recommend this video to my sister.
26:10 And I just realized that you gave this movie the BIGGEST respect by showing the SPANISH version of the title rather than keeping it in English. Nice touch.
I have to be honest, this movie nearly made it above my all-time favorite movie. I absolutely love the visuals, the characters, I love the atmosphere and the lesson that is taught. It's so much deeper than I thought it could be. It's sad that it beats the live action from the company that made a perfect version so long ago, but it is what it is and greed will never be able to pass art like that.
A. In the 1940s version, Jiminy Cricket has this growth from beginning to end too- Beginning: can I get a medal too? Ending: thanks for doing that for him. He deserved to be a real boy. In the beginning it was about him and what he would get. In the end, it was about someone else. And that's why he gets the medal he didn't even ask about again. B. Guillermo del Toro's version is just magic. It's a far cry from both the book and the Disney version, and that's what makes it special- he poured his heart into making this and it shows. My only nitpick is Pinocchio not becoming a real boy at the end, but that's just a small drop in a huge ocean of amazing
I feel like Disney didn’t necessarily botch the theme, they used a different one. This time around they used innocence and perseverance. Through all his troubles, he stays innocent and the toy donkey parts make sense here, since there should be no real consequences to good deeds, and his perseverance rewards him when these parts are removed. I’m not saying I like it, I’m just saying that’s what it is.
Me: And I worthship that My Pikachu: Me too ( we actually liked del toro Pinocchio too though we didn't find it as memorable as both Disney Pinocchio's combined Me: though if I had to give it a rating then will give dele toro a 7.5/10 while the live action Disney version gets a 9.1/10 My Taichi ( Rioul ): And The meme Pinocchio variant should just burn in hell 1.9/10 )
I like how Del Toro doesn’t treat his audience like children, not to say children didn’t watch it, but that he understands to some degree even children can understand mature and deep messages or themes in a story, even if they’re not old enough they can comprehend right from wrong
Inspiring. My friend, you are an inspiration. Your passion and love for your craft are moving and your assessments of these movies revealed things that tickled my subconscious but I didn't realise. I rarely comment on RUclips videos, but I had to share to my thoughts. Bravo, sir.
The Del Toro version reminds me of a movie LAIKA would make (Coraline, ParaNorman, Boxtrolls, Kubo). I remember seeing "Coraline" and "ParaNorman" in theaters when they initially came out.
Animation multiverse video idea: What if Hector from Coco didn't drink the poison that Ernesto put and he went back to Coco? Or Miguel's family doesn't ban music?
One of the many, many things Del Toro's version of Pinocchio got right that almost all movies produced in the past decade have gotten wrong was that it followed the age-old filmmaking rule of "Show, don't tell!" Other movies have been busily putting agenda ahead of storytelling, which turns everything in them into boring garbage, as audiences are after entertainment, not sermons. The true brilliance of the Del Toro film is that it gets the message out, but does it the right way. Instead of making the mistake of parroting "Fascism is bad! Fascism is bad!" in every other line of dialogue like other films make the mistake of doing, Del Toro's masterpiece simply presents its beautiful, heart-wringing story, shows fascism for what it is, and lets the audience independently come to the conclusion that fascism is, in fact, bad without beating them over the head with the message as if it were a wooden club.
I surprisingly didn't enjoy the Del Toro one that much I still think it's better than the other two we got last year i mean I do like it I do just not as much as the original Disney movie you did make some great points about the message almost had me tearing up a little but yea I miss stop motion stuff it's uncanny yes but the stories are so interesting Great video as always Finn 😊
Nobody seems to mention the fact that the war games ARE Toro's Paradise Island, and the new temptation is propaganda. There's a half second scene where the kids, newly brainwashed, have gas masks attached to their face as they're shoved out. Their faces are hidden, losing all humanity as they're overtaken by a long black head with large eyes- sound familiar? What an amazing way to do the donkey transformation so subtly and so quietly, yet the impact is all the same.
I legit cried at the Del Toro segment. The movie is just a timeless masterpiece indeed. Saying this is the best animated movie of the year is an understatement. It's top 3 best animated movies of all time! Yes, all time. And it's my favorite stop motion animated movie. A film that redefined animation as a medium of storytelling. I used to think Guillermo Del Toro was an overrated director, but Pinocchio made him become one of the greatest directors of all time and now I found new appreciation for his past films. It is a love letter to animation fans. People who haven't seen that movie yet are living under a rock and giving all the attention to Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, which is a great movie but doesn't compete with Del Toro's movie. You can call Puss in Boots 2 your favorite all you want, but GDT's Pinocchio is the best!
I started to “happy cry” when “Finnthepony” compared Pinocchio in the de Toro version to art that can inspire people to take action or create works of their own, even very far into the future. IT’S BEAUTIFUL! 🥲
Walt Disney's 1940 Pinocchio first release was a box office bomb. The news of this made Walt feel so bad that he had to be hospitalized for a time. A fun fact: This was the only Disney work that Mel Blanc did a part for (Cat's hiccup).
instantly liked it when i heard the meat circus theme and never once regretted it, excellent video and gave me a newfound appreciation for the older movie :)
I watched Del Toro's version. It's an indescribable masterpiece. And the fact that the morals touch you so much that I almost cried watching the movie.
O_o ....I never would've made that connection with the clocks in the original film. I thought it was just the animators showing they had some serious skills ^^;
When you were describing the clock scene I heard the little ticks in the background and it terrified me. I had to take off my headphones and just sit there for a moment before going back. I’m not sure if this was intentional, but if it was, it worked.
Here's how it goes: A True Story is best in terms of comedic value, the Remake is the worst, and the Guillermo Del Toro is the best of these films. Edit: It is now my headcanon that the Coachman was another inspiration for the Joker. Mainly the grin, but it's possible. Also, for those who say Gepetto shouldn't have sent Pinocchio to school the day after he was born, I'm willing to defend this since, well, Gepetto's old, and he probably didn't want to be the only thing to teach and prepare Pinocchio.
You really got me crying this time, because what you said about del Toro's Pinoccio is something i always think when i think about purpuse and meaning and, why i even try? Even when i have a writer's block now, i want to try and write about all the things i want to comunicate to the world; similar to sebastian the cricket: storys about imperfect fathers and imperfect sons.
Disney's Pinnocio and Russian Pinnocio having a slap fight while Del Torros Pinnocio is having a world shattering dbz fight with The Last Wish for best animated picture in the lower atmosphere
Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio also has the upper hand of working so well in their respective dubbed languages. I'm learning French and Spanish, and I'm fluent in Tagalog, so I relistened the music from this movie three more times in those languages, and damn the voice acting is amazing! If you have a second language, I recommend rewatching it in that language.
9:27 - So how did the remake do? 15:13 - SeW hAu diYd thuH reimAicKH Duuuu? 18:33 - SoAP AHH DEH thuH BREE MEG DUDE?! 22:26 - *translation unavailable* Basically,you gotta love how he in this one,he compared the classic animated version than the remake
And out of all the Pinnochios we got in that decade....I am very great duo with the Del Toro one the .most.?it expands a delete them for the puppet boy's story
I think the main difference here is that Guillermo del Toro actually wanted to make a movie and not some quick buck out of people's nostalgia for classic pinnochio
To me, 40s version is the best adaption of the story while the Del Toro one is the best version of it. Both are amazing in their own right, but the former sticks closer to the source material while the latter puts its own spin on it. Both are amazing in their own ways, but the Del Toro one wins out...albeit by a small margin. Idk, that's just me.
Listen there are three bests The first is the Og book, then there's the OG (i belive) movie, then there's del Toros version, and finally, the shrek version I cant say anything else cause I haven't seen the other ones that I didn't list
Let’s be honest this was never a fight it was a public execution of the other two films while pointing at Del toro’s and screaming “this is how it’s done!”
That's an... incredible analogy
Very incredible analogy, in fact!
@@kieranstark7213 Verily
You could say “this is how we do it“.
And be absolutely right
Del Toro is the clear winner here, but 'A True Story' gets second purely cause, if nothing else, it's fucking hilarious
del toro killed pinocchio 3 or 4 times, which made me question my sanity
For all the stuff the Disney one got wrong, at least it was the basic story and characters of Pinocchio. A True Story was just a scrambled mess of animation with a popular name added at the last second. It's this generation's Tentacolino.
@@viviennemorgan7217 and one of those deaths had him being executed by mussolini's order. It's plain insanity but also briliant. Imagine saying this to a friend
"Hey remember that pinocchio movie where musolini ordered pinocchio's execution because he told musolini to eat crap ?"
'A True Story' wins the meme movie award
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 right
The thing I love about Del Toro’s version is how janky and almost nonhuman Pinocchio moves at the start, as that is basically how a actual wooden puppet would probably move if had no strings or supports attached to it and had to learn how to move it’s self. I also just love the fact they turned the fairy into a biblically accurate angel
Crazy
I suppose you could also say that Pinocchio: a true story has him move jankily and inhumanly
@@awesomegaymer5786 ha
Exactly 💯
Agreed
You didn’t even mention the scene in Pinocchio: A True Story where Pinocchio gets SHOT
To be fair… the same thing happens in Guillermo Del Toro’s version.
but he got up.
"YOU KILLED HIM!" - bella crying for literally 75% of the film
Well, Mussolini ordered Pinocchio's execution in Del Toro's version so....
@@fernandodavidpaezcontreras6586 it’s played so much more dramatically there
The way you described the Guillermo del Toro version makes it sound beautiful & very deep. It is now one of my favourite movies ever! I swear that it could’ve just as easily been called “Pinocchio and the Meaning of Life”, seeing how it opens & ends with a pine cone, a symbol of life & death. The way Pinocchio himself inspires Candlewick & Spazzatura to stand up to abusive figures (the Podesta or Count Volpe respectively), or Geppetto to let Carlo go. He became the hero they all needed (especially Candlewick to be honest, as he knew more about being human than his father ever has or ever will). The way you described Pinocchio himself as a metaphor for art that lives on is so beautiful & should inspire people to come. It is art at a time where most movies today are made just to make money.
By at least 2032 (when it would be 10 years old), I would love “Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio” to be preserved into the National Film Registry by the Library of Congress.
I listen to what this youtuber said about Del Toro's Pinocchio and it's core message about making choices, to teach lessons that'll endure others before our time on this little planet clocks out got me right here. Lemme give a little info about myself.
A few years ago, I was looking through nostalgic content and lost media when I came across this page about a cancelled crossover film that was to star 90s Nicktoons (in the styles of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Lego Movie, and Wreck-it-Ralph) and I was so hooked that I began commenting on how IMO it may have or could work. I believe that was when it sparked something in me, to pitch these stories about rides, escapades; et cetera. I believe the first pitch treatment I ever produced was a crossover between Good Burger and Spongebob, where Plankton steals an oil drum filled to the brim with Ed's sauce after the many fails of trying to obtain the Krabby Patty Formula and Ed and Dexter go under the underwater world of Bikini Bottom to retrieve it; hilarity ensues. But I then lost interest and moved on to making two [incomplete] fanfics starring Popeye and company, one of them revolving around the opening of Universal's Islands of Adventure, featuring characters like The Cat In The Hat, Betty Boop, even Marvel legend himself Stan Lee was gonna be there. Currently, I've been working on a little tale that's in the early stages of treatment; hope I'm able to finish it, but in case you're wondering, it's a fanfic for Project: Playtime, spinoff to Poppy Playtime.
P.S. There were also several other stories I had in mind, but they never came far through brainstorming. One of which is an AAHHH! Real Monsters crossover with the Ghostbusters (not referring to the cartoons) with the Ghostbusters finding themselves in an alternate reality where monsters indeed exist. Paranormal activity involved.
P.P.S. There was also going to be a rendition of Elizabeth Van Lew's time during the American civil war, replacing the real people with the cast from Pepper Ann.
P.P.P.S. Now that I think about it, the first two fanfics pitches I ever produced were the "Ernest & The Simpsons" and "Men In Scissorbeetles/Scissorjuice," with the latter being about the Men In Black during a secret mission gone wrong, accidentally stepping onto a teleporter that transfers both agents into separate universes. But here's the thing: the teleporter was able to trigger some kind of reaction that has both our protagonists (well, one of them an anti-hero) Beetlejuice and Edward Scissorhands, who Beetlejuice refers to as "Ed" or "Eddie," take the agents place in another attempt to fulfill this failed mission. I even considered have Pee-Wee Herman joining them or being just an honorable mention (or a dishonorable mention, in Beetlejuice's case, given how he had great trauma from the time he tried to manipulate Pee-Wee into saying his name repeatedly and he succeeded, but at a cost of lasting for a few weeks of annoying talking furniture, singing little kiddie songs (views them as s**t), and the ear-grating laughter of said customer), or just a small cameo.
@@charlespage-camacho2115 that sounds pretty good. 🙂
Though litwick dies so yah
The only true battle should be between Pinocchio 1940 vs Del Toro's Pinocchio since both make a unique visual adaptations of the story of Pinocchio
I'd also add in the 2018 vs as it's definitely the darkest of them all. Honestly I don't know what is the best as all are going to be timeless classics.
Del Toro’s vs the others in 2022 is like using a flamethrower vs a stick (I also chose a flamethrower since Pinocchio is made of wood).
A. thank you for giving me more respect for the classic Disney version.
b. when I first saw the Guillermo Del Toro version I thought Pinocchio's face looked like Spud from Bob the Builder
I CAN'T UNSEE IT NOW
Yeah, Pinocchio looks like a huminoid, weirdly shaped log of dark oak wood in that movie.
Wait u forgot the movie that no one remembers “pinochio 30000”
Me: I prefer the 2022 Disney remake since it at least try to something extortionatary and I still love it since I can see both versions of pleasures island happen there they just cut off the acoole and smoking in this one because im pretty sure they would have them to do in real life when children still shouldn't do that even if it is for acting out the original flim which also is proven since if child actors actually did drank & smoke in real life when filming they might end up in the hospital or worse
My Pachirisu: And then Disney would have suffered a even worse fate then the unfair box office results this movie unfairly got
My Fennekin ( Fenn ): it was actually flim in real life camera ls in real life
My Pikachu: respect our opinion please
1st Disney 2022
2nd Gellamo del toro
3rd ( last place ) A Ture story
Oh THAT'S what he reminded me of!
del toros was the best because above all else he had passion about it. its something he deeply desired to make for damn near a decade. he appreciates all the production members who also put their heart and soul into it and goddammit he fucking has a deep love for all forms of art.
I thought it was a decade and a half
The artist and his creation analysis from Del Toro's version is something I didn't even think about as I watch this movie over and over. As someone who has a life long passion for art, but has a professional career far away from anything similar, returning back to it has always been so terrifying. This movie already helped me to rethink about loss, grief, and death that had defined the beginning of my adulthood. And this additional messaging on art and artists... I needed this movie in my life. I love it so much. 🥺
Pinocchio himself in the del Toro version is a metaphor for art in many cases.
I mean hell, in 2023, there’s gonna be a Dark Souls style game based on Pinocchio! This little puppet really seems to get around.😳
This is fake… right?
@@kartertemplet1465 Nope. It's not.
Im totally gonna try it out when it releases
Yup! The Lies of P.
Regarding the "True" story of Pinocchio - I'm surprised you left out the scene where the cat flat out shoots him. That's a "WHAT?!?!?!" moment if I ever saw one.
That said, the Del Toro version was so amazing, and just seeing a few shots of the ending in your review brought the tears back. I found it breathtakingly beautiful, uniquely original, and almost perfect (the songs in the early part of the film felt shoehorned in IMO but this is such a minor quibble). It was so worth all the years it took to get here.
Everything else about the movie was so weird that the moment of him being shot looked normal in comparison.
It’s Interesting the way astroboy had effect on future pinocchio adaptations with the idea that Pinocchio was pretty much a made because of a father grieving over his dead son.
Yes. Astroboy was really good.
Guillermo’s hands down.
It’s so beautiful the way “finnthepony” describes Pinocchio himself as art in the del Toro version. I had never cried so much in a long time! 😭
Russian Pinnocchio be like:
-Walts in
-Shits out a bad movie
-Curses humanity with the existence of fruity Pinnocchio
-Claims its the "true story" (aka lie)
-Refuses to elaborate
-Leaves
Gigachad also it's still better than the Disney remake
"To save you, he became a real boy. And real boys... don't come back"
27:06 and thus I'd still do think Guillermo Del Toro's version of Pinocchio is the better version both visually and literally with it's morals and great characters and Great stop motion animation this is the Best version of Pinocchio
I never thought of Pinocchio in Del Toro's movie as an allegory for art. But... it makes so much sense ! And the message is especially relevant now more than it ever will be, thanks to the tragedy of AI generated images eating more and more of the art industry. Art is finally becomming the puppet, when its strings used to be free.
Make art, people.
The way he described Pinocchio in Del Toro’s version as art in his own way is so beautiful… I REALLY CRIED AS HE WENT ON! 🥲
great breakdown of the movies, really enjoyed seeing what were your thoughts on the original pinocchio and why was it so wonderful. it's a video worth of ending the year on. now all we need is a puss in boots 2 video.
Wow, that reading of Del Toro's Pinocchio as a metaphor for art someone puts in the world was gorgeous. It even ties in nicely with the role of constructive naughtiness and rebellion in its story.
Your breakdown of the clock scene got me thinking that what I got out of it and the early scenes with Gepetto was more that Gepetto is an adult who has never had a child. He's creative and has a childlike quality, nurturing instinct, and love to give, but he's likely never actually done the hard work of raising a human. He's never had to childproof his home or workshop (full of delicate machinery, tools, fire and a GUN), and while he is a good caretaker of a cat and fish, with Pinocchio he's in over his head and naive (at least walk your kid to school for the first time the day after he's just born!).
Which makes the contrast with Del Toro all the more interesting because that Gepetto HAS raised a child, but one who died young and remained a perfect angel in his memory. His challenge is very different, but both of them go through the terrible joy a child can bring.
The last Pinocchio movie (at the end) really sounds like a session at church
It's weird that 2022 had so many of these 🤔
Videos like this are why you're one of my favorite reviewers :) You put into perspective things that I remember about watching the original Disney adaptation of Pinocchio and never realized before; the characters (whether they be heroes or villains), scenes, and other aspects and really showcase what makes the original so special
And yeah, what you said about people creating things is important. We do need people to showcase their creativities. Even if someone has worries that it won't look as good as they thought, they won't know what to improve on if they don't try; and trying is often the bravest and most beautiful thing a creative person can do :)
Thank you for putting this out for us, Finn. May 2023 be a safe, happy, fulfilling, and productive year for you and the people you hold close to you.
In 2022 we also got 2 other versions of Pinocchio, Puss in Boots the last wish that even had Gepeto and the Cricket and another Pinocchio in Part 6 JoJo as part of the Bohemian Rhapsody arc.
Del Toro's take demonstrates the importance of the Public Domain as much as the classic fairy tale adaptations created by Walt Disney himself.
It would have been a disaster as far as adaptions went for that year had the Disney corporation been the only entities legally allowed to make derivative material for Pinocchio.
Let me say something about the Pauly Shore take. As a Russian by blood, this is not the country's best nor groundbreaking achievement. It made me confounded and dumbstruck that they usually make their films and series with optimism, care, time and dedication. In fact, Yuri Norshtein, one of Russia's prolific and influential animators and storytellers, has dedicated his whole life, alongside his wife and artist whom works for him, to make an animated film that is still in production for 40 years and they were still working on it! Russia's films and series has a lot of words to describe them individually. They are philosophical, satirical, witty, funny, heartwarming, tense, optimistic, bitter, sweet, tragic, charming, haunting, educative, loveable, beautiful, cute, down to earth, imaginative, fantastical, wonderful, deep, thought provoking and memorable. They DO NOT make films and series that they preach about communism. They most CERTAINLY do not. They tell personal stories and also adapt stories from everywhere else, even US. Rather it be folk tales, short stories, fairy tales, children's novels etc. Talking of which here are two recommendations that is about them. One is a 15 part documentary series called "Кто нарисовал нас?" or "Who drew us?" which it tells the history of Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian and Estonian animation. You can find it on RUclips. The other recommendation is a website, "Animation Obsessive", in which it has a lot of stories, both biographical and behind-the-scenes, of animated films and series of the Russian animation industry. You can simply type, Animation Obsessive, to find it. Before I can finish this comment, I wanted to say something. Russian animation, alongside US, Canada, UK, France, Italy (both recently), a hint of Czech, Poland and China and also Japan were all apart of my life. I cannot imagine how I came about without them. That's all there is, there isn't anymore.
The fixies was a beautifull Heart Breaking experience to watch! I chould not agree more with what you just Said the Way They Fixed The lamp must have Been one of the most amazing scenes in film history! 🤣 But jokes aside thats really impressive!
@@victorlolxd7347 Which episode do you speak of, specifically?
@@danielsvetlichny5721the Nightlight have allways Been my personal favorite even the title is a poem! Absolutey amazing it was really hard not to shed a few tears doing the ending!
But seriously! 40 years?! My gosh
@@victorlolxd7347 Can you put it in a link so that I can find it?
@@danielsvetlichny5721all you gotta go is search up “the fixies / the nightlight”
This guy is seriously really underrated.
Keep up the good videos mate, life is finite.
Ah yes, the holy trinity. Masterpiece Pinocchio, generic Disney remake Pinocchio and 💅✨zesty✨💅 Pinocchio.
the amazing one, the mid one, the meme one
Pinocchio: nose ways home
Going into this, i knew which adaptation would be the best out of these three.
I was curious which of the other two is worse.
Disney's live action remake is definitely the worst one by far imo. Like it has no soul, it's boring and it's plot is botched and not to mention how Honest John and Gideon look like roadkill
3:53 Finally! Someone who loves the original as much as I do. I have never smiled so much in my entire Life and I am so happy that you are only saying good things about it so that everybody can know that the 1940 Pinocchio is a masterpiece!
Pinocchio a true story > Disney remake Pinocchio
And I'll die on that hill
I will aswell!
Thanks for pointing out that clock thing. They aren't just to keep time, they're individuals with roles and choices, they represent a living, breathing town, even they're just wood on a movement loop.
With you talking about Jiminy Cricket I could not help but think about the series Once Upon a Time episode where we see his origins
I never really found the 1940 version to a liking when I was a kid (mostly of the donkey scene that traumatized me) but the way you analyzed human uniqueness from Jiminy to Geppetto along with the actions and choices make us human which leads to the “I’m a real boy” scene, was such an eye opener, and gave me a beautiful interpretation of the film
Everyone knew the message about Pinocchio, but you broke it down in a way I could never come up on my own. I'm gonna recommend this video to my sister.
"You sir are a villain"
"No I just didn't get enough sleep"
What?
So how did the remake do? 🤣
9:29 15:14 18:34 *22:31*
Or / Uuugh, So how did the remake do?
9:29 15:12 18:33 *22:29*
These parts just made me smile with the mental image they just shoved into my head lmao
I went and watched Guillermo Del Toro’s Pinocchio after this, I enjoyed it.
26:10 And I just realized that you gave this movie the BIGGEST respect by showing the SPANISH version of the title rather than keeping it in English. Nice touch.
I have to be honest, this movie nearly made it above my all-time favorite movie. I absolutely love the visuals, the characters, I love the atmosphere and the lesson that is taught. It's so much deeper than I thought it could be. It's sad that it beats the live action from the company that made a perfect version so long ago, but it is what it is and greed will never be able to pass art like that.
A. In the 1940s version, Jiminy Cricket has this growth from beginning to end too-
Beginning: can I get a medal too?
Ending: thanks for doing that for him. He deserved to be a real boy.
In the beginning it was about him and what he would get. In the end, it was about someone else. And that's why he gets the medal he didn't even ask about again.
B. Guillermo del Toro's version is just magic. It's a far cry from both the book and the Disney version, and that's what makes it special- he poured his heart into making this and it shows. My only nitpick is Pinocchio not becoming a real boy at the end, but that's just a small drop in a huge ocean of amazing
the last part when he talked about creation and art , was so powerful
I watched the Del Toro version with my family.
Cried at the end.
I feel like Disney didn’t necessarily botch the theme, they used a different one. This time around they used innocence and perseverance. Through all his troubles, he stays innocent and the toy donkey parts make sense here, since there should be no real consequences to good deeds, and his perseverance rewards him when these parts are removed. I’m not saying I like it, I’m just saying that’s what it is.
Me: And I worthship that
My Pikachu: Me too
( we actually liked del toro Pinocchio too though we didn't find it as memorable as both Disney Pinocchio's combined Me: though if I had to give it a rating then will give dele toro a 7.5/10 while the live action Disney version gets a 9.1/10 My Taichi ( Rioul ): And The meme Pinocchio variant should just burn in hell 1.9/10 )
@@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002what?!
@@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002 u crazy
I like how Del Toro doesn’t treat his audience like children, not to say children didn’t watch it, but that he understands to some degree even children can understand mature and deep messages or themes in a story, even if they’re not old enough they can comprehend right from wrong
Inspiring. My friend, you are an inspiration. Your passion and love for your craft are moving and your assessments of these movies revealed things that tickled my subconscious but I didn't realise.
I rarely comment on RUclips videos, but I had to share to my thoughts.
Bravo, sir.
all jokes aside this is a really profound and interesting video for a deep topic that was done and executed well. Well done man, what a show indeed.
The Del Toro version reminds me of a movie LAIKA would make (Coraline, ParaNorman, Boxtrolls, Kubo). I remember seeing "Coraline" and "ParaNorman" in theaters when they initially came out.
Is no one gonna talk about how in Pinnochio: A True Story, the villain's motivation is literally "I didn't get enough sleep so i evil"
The line "If someone wants to be human all they have to do is be human" is like if you want to be good you have to be good
Animation multiverse video idea: What if Hector from Coco didn't drink the poison that Ernesto put and he went back to Coco? Or Miguel's family doesn't ban music?
Speaking of Pinocchio, there is that one version from the Shrek movies, who also had a brief appearance in the new Puss in Boots movie
One of the many, many things Del Toro's version of Pinocchio got right that almost all movies produced in the past decade have gotten wrong was that it followed the age-old filmmaking rule of "Show, don't tell!" Other movies have been busily putting agenda ahead of storytelling, which turns everything in them into boring garbage, as audiences are after entertainment, not sermons. The true brilliance of the Del Toro film is that it gets the message out, but does it the right way. Instead of making the mistake of parroting "Fascism is bad! Fascism is bad!" in every other line of dialogue like other films make the mistake of doing, Del Toro's masterpiece simply presents its beautiful, heart-wringing story, shows fascism for what it is, and lets the audience independently come to the conclusion that fascism is, in fact, bad without beating them over the head with the message as if it were a wooden club.
I surprisingly didn't enjoy the Del Toro one that much I still think it's better than the other two we got last year i mean I do like it I do just not as much as the original Disney movie you did make some great points about the message almost had me tearing up a little but yea I miss stop motion stuff it's uncanny yes but the stories are so interesting
Great video as always Finn 😊
Pinocchio: No Way Home
Nobody seems to mention the fact that the war games ARE Toro's Paradise Island, and the new temptation is propaganda. There's a half second scene where the kids, newly brainwashed, have gas masks attached to their face as they're shoved out. Their faces are hidden, losing all humanity as they're overtaken by a long black head with large eyes- sound familiar?
What an amazing way to do the donkey transformation so subtly and so quietly, yet the impact is all the same.
Yay, this type of videos back
I legit cried at the Del Toro segment. The movie is just a timeless masterpiece indeed. Saying this is the best animated movie of the year is an understatement. It's top 3 best animated movies of all time! Yes, all time. And it's my favorite stop motion animated movie. A film that redefined animation as a medium of storytelling. I used to think Guillermo Del Toro was an overrated director, but Pinocchio made him become one of the greatest directors of all time and now I found new appreciation for his past films. It is a love letter to animation fans. People who haven't seen that movie yet are living under a rock and giving all the attention to Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, which is a great movie but doesn't compete with Del Toro's movie. You can call Puss in Boots 2 your favorite all you want, but GDT's Pinocchio is the best!
I started to “happy cry” when “Finnthepony” compared Pinocchio in the de Toro version to art that can inspire people to take action or create works of their own, even very far into the future. IT’S BEAUTIFUL! 🥲
Walt Disney's 1940 Pinocchio first release was a box office bomb. The news of this made Walt feel so bad that he had to be hospitalized for a time. A fun fact: This was the only Disney work that Mel Blanc did a part for (Cat's hiccup).
But today's a timeless classic, I'm gals for that
Easy: Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio. :)
Exactly 💯
Tbh I disagree
@@MichaelJacksonRobloxGaming Please elaborate
@@gacd2104 wdym
@@MichaelJacksonRobloxGaming I mean that I would like to hear an explanation about why you think Del Toro's Pinocchio isn't easily the best
The devolution of the comparison
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You have convinced me to watch the Guillermo del Toro version of pinocchio. It looks really good and I can’t wait!
This changed from wood guys fighting to a full ted talk
From "what not to do" to praise and philosophy
instantly liked it when i heard the meat circus theme and never once regretted it, excellent video and gave me a newfound appreciation for the older movie :)
that ending was beautiful I loved it the sad truths with the insprirational words was amazing
btw del torro's version was fricking hilarious but really sad and inspirational at the same time
Oh boy here we go again (cue the next Pinocchio)
Is there a tier list for every version of Pinocchio? Yes, including Fables and Shrek
Okay I love this
I watched Del Toro's version. It's an indescribable masterpiece. And the fact that the morals touch you so much that I almost cried watching the movie.
I like the OG Disney version because of the animation and all the detail put into it and a bucket load of nostalgia.
CLOSEST TO THE TRUE STORY???
Hum... You haven't heard the true og story of Pinocchio have you? (Because trust me, it's not even close)
@@claireaquos6532 you're probably right, i read it a really long time ago, like when i was 12. i'll change that point and make it a valid point
As long as stories are told they will never die including the bizarre ones
Can I know the name of the melody at Guillermo Del Toro’s part?
Love your vid! ❤
My favourite part is when spy said “what” 17 times
O_o ....I never would've made that connection with the clocks in the original film. I thought it was just the animators showing they had some serious skills ^^;
When you were describing the clock scene I heard the little ticks in the background and it terrified me. I had to take off my headphones and just sit there for a moment before going back. I’m not sure if this was intentional, but if it was, it worked.
Del toro’s version is the winner, hands down!
Here's how it goes: A True Story is best in terms of comedic value, the Remake is the worst, and the Guillermo Del Toro is the best of these films.
Edit: It is now my headcanon that the Coachman was another inspiration for the Joker. Mainly the grin, but it's possible. Also, for those who say Gepetto shouldn't have sent Pinocchio to school the day after he was born, I'm willing to defend this since, well, Gepetto's old, and he probably didn't want to be the only thing to teach and prepare Pinocchio.
Every frame of Pinocchio should be the loading screen wallpaper
You really got me crying this time, because what you said about del Toro's Pinoccio is something i always think when i think about purpuse and meaning and, why i even try? Even when i have a writer's block now, i want to try and write about all the things i want to comunicate to the world; similar to sebastian the cricket: storys about imperfect fathers and imperfect sons.
Disney's Pinnocio and Russian Pinnocio having a slap fight while Del Torros Pinnocio is having a world shattering dbz fight with The Last Wish for best animated picture in the lower atmosphere
It's funny, cause there was supposed to be 4, but Water of Life got pushed to this year.
Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio also has the upper hand of working so well in their respective dubbed languages. I'm learning French and Spanish, and I'm fluent in Tagalog, so I relistened the music from this movie three more times in those languages, and damn the voice acting is amazing!
If you have a second language, I recommend rewatching it in that language.
The fact that a shovelware movie for Grandma is better than an actual Disney movie says a lot.
12:00
That made me jump. I was not expecting that.
Note: moved by 10 seconds ahead
9:27 - So how did the remake do?
15:13 - SeW hAu diYd thuH reimAicKH Duuuu?
18:33 - SoAP AHH DEH thuH BREE MEG DUDE?!
22:26 - *translation unavailable*
Basically,you gotta love how he in this one,he compared the classic animated version than the remake
I loved when you showed the lion king on screen,thats my fav Disney movie infact
Seriously, this was a beautiful video.
"my insides are made of unborn puppet flesh" with the meat circus theme.
I see what you did there.
Birds Sing, Fish Swim, Humans Create.
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P.S. Did you see there's going to be Pinocchio steampunk souls like? "Lies of P" it is called.
Guillermo del Toro's Pinocio and Original Disney Cartoon Animation Classic (not remake).
Dell Toros was the g.o.a.t. of Pinocchio's
Father when can I leave on my OOOOOWN I’ve got the whole world to see
And out of all the Pinnochios we got in that decade....I am very great duo with the Del Toro one the .most.?it expands a delete them for the puppet boy's story
I think the main difference here is that Guillermo del Toro actually wanted to make a movie and not some quick buck out of people's nostalgia for classic pinnochio
Imagine if Del Toro directed the Hobbit.
To me, 40s version is the best adaption of the story while the Del Toro one is the best version of it. Both are amazing in their own right, but the former sticks closer to the source material while the latter puts its own spin on it. Both are amazing in their own ways, but the Del Toro one wins out...albeit by a small margin. Idk, that's just me.
The Pauly Shore one at least has that so bad it's good quality going for it. Disney's just makes you want to watch a better version.
Listen there are three bests
The first is the Og book, then there's the OG (i belive) movie, then there's del Toros version, and finally, the shrek version
I cant say anything else cause I haven't seen the other ones that I didn't list
This is awesome Finn
My favourite movie protagonist
Phonokia
Shrek pinocciois is the best