A Vita cost $50 more brand new, had its own library of games, played PSP and PS1 games natively, and could stream both the PS4 and PS3. The Portal by comparison is horrid value compared to what Sony gave us before.
It's still more worth it. Hell, steam deck is more worth it, the lcd one, if you get refurbished and best model costs 379 EUR. Which is 179 more for a device that can play everything.
Also u can cloud game on your phone with a backbone type controller, and let's not forget emulators, if you have a 2021+ high end phone with 6gb ram or more, u can even play ps2 games on your phone 🙌🏼🤔🤣
Personally I don't get people who just say "use your phone", I'm sorry but the last thing I want to burn the battery on is my phone. Not only do I want my phone to last the whole day but the more charge cycles I do on it the lower the lifetime of that battery becomes. The phone in my estimation is a terrible device to use for gaming, I need it to keep in touch with my family and my work, it's not for gaming.
Exactly i don’t wanna play on my phone and kill the battery,phone isn’t a video game,i can play on it occasionally but using it as a main device to play games doesn’t make any sense for me.
@@AI_KyunNotAnEgg My old phone tends to turn into a backup in case something tragic happens to my current phone. it only works as a backup because at the point where I get a new phone the battery on my old phone doesn't last very long at all and thus would be ill suited to something like game streaming anyways. I'm the first to say that the Playstation Portal is a niche device but for people in that niche? It absolutely does make sense. I do question if that niche is big enough to really justify Sony making the device in the first place but since I'm in that niche I'll take advantage of it existing :P
They should have added a cellular 5G chip inside the Portal itself.... eliminating the need for your phone. Sony could do collabs with wireless carriers and offer a special tier of cellular data part of Playstation +
At bare bare bare minium it needs to have web browser capabilities. Usually when you use public wifi they have you connect to it via web browser. Hopefully they can implement one with a software update
Eh, sometimes devices are just shit. My “smart” tv is supposed to connect to wifi but never has, even though my network is great. We just need a new PSP.
Mine is decent and far from cheap as far as Verizon is concerned. But testing remote play on pc was unplayable. Not sure if it's just a remote play thing because I actually had an incredible my similar experience with my computer connected to my phones hotstop and my home wifi. Either that or I need a stronger connection for my playstation itself but I can logistically set up a wired connection so I have no way of doing so.
While my mesh isn't perfect, it's definitely one of the better. I transfer huge video files over wi-fi daily without issue. I stream 4K uncompressed BDs from my NAS over wi-fi. While not WiFi 6, it holds up very well.
Especially if you live in the country, I know I used to have shit Wi-Fi living out there in the country😂 it’s better now I move to the city and have Xfinity
You can reduce latency by prioritizing remote play UDP port 8572 in your home router. Additionally, 5G is known to have high upload latency regardless of the telco provider you are using.
I got one on day 1 also and I love it. For me, playing (Playstation or Xbox) on a cell phone with a Backbone is not comparable. This stand alone Sony Playstation Portal in my experience is well worth the $199 and I'm enjoying it very much.
people doesn't realize it's viable anymore for a psp to be viable for sony thing would need to be able to run ps5 games point blank no original title .That's why Nintendo went that way game cost to much to develop now days .
They already did the Vita and people didn't support it and they pulled the plug on it, they won't throw money at another portable again since the switch is dominating the portable gaming market, we're out of luck
The PSP was ahead of its time in 05 it was the only device you could play games, go online, watch movies, and listen to music that you could put in your pocket. by the time the Vita came out your phone could do all those things, so it flopped and a new psp would too, They would have to make a all in one like Nintendo for it to sell.
They should build a portable version of the last gen system. I think it would be sweet if they went with this timeline. Main console then slim console and when the next gen comes, a portable version of the PS4. If the steam deck can run cyberpunk 2077 at a locked 30 then I don't understand why Sony couldn't develop their own version of that.
Or Vita. Couldn't agree more. People don't want to have to access a network just to play a game they enjoy. And before people say 'oh but physical media is going in the way of the dinosaurs', well not if we can help it and STOP buying things digitally. Digital gaming is not the way of the future that people think. I couldn't care less about convenience.
HUGE ADVICE! Currently the Portal isn't even able to downscale the resolution from your PS5. So if you left it at 4K/120Hz, then you're Portal will struggle. Any phone, tablet or PC would adjust it and so it saves the need to stream 4K to a screen that doesn't even support 4K. Make sure your PS5 is forced to 1080p, 60Hz.
And whats the point to have to knowing all this in a random youtube comment instead of the actual device you just bought. Such an amateur job from Sony.
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As a ps vita owner, who owns over 150 physical games for it I think the portal makes the vita look like a legacy nintendo product, sure it had lots of apps and games back then but the screen is 480 p and even if its oled it looks worse than anything released today. I love the portal Im getting one.
in the era of powerful handheld gaming devices like the Steam Deck, GPD Win or even the others like the Switch / high-end phones + emulators, i really dont understand why Sony decided to neuter this handheld by making it essentially a streaming device. Sony please make another PSP!!
100% agree. I got one to play over the road while I'm gone for work and don't want to pack my 5. I was thinking this was going to be similar to the PSP. But sadly it's not. They kinda shit the bed on this. Great idea less than favorable development
It doesn't need to be on the same network. It can take some time if you're on 5G and away from the PS5's network. It won't happen immediately, but it does work and others have proven this.
If your Portal isn't connecting by mobile hotspot, then there is something on your phone preventing the connection. Either a VPN being on or some other setting.
It’s not even PlayStations fault remote play and cloud gaming just isn’t a reliable way to play games more times than not you’re going to struggle with connection the world isn’t ready yet
But it is Sony's fault that they are pushing towards it when they know FULL WELL that the world in general doesn't have terrific Internet connection. They THINK that digital/online only is the future, but nothing could be FURTHER from the truth. I couldn't care how convenient it may be.
@@ryukard666 Nope. Especially if not everywhere in the world has terrific Internet and you can NOT use it on Public Wifi networks which makes it practically useless if you want to take it with you. What was Sony thinking?
@@jordanking7711ima truck driver and i have a 25$ mobile hotspot and I get 100gb of wifi for 35$ it's well worth the money for someone like me on the road and with no tv
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The potential is there. I’d ask for remote play no matter what network as long as both are connected to the internet I don’t see the problem, also a better screen, OLEDs are the way to go, HDR, & I’d sacrifice graphics for the 120hz frame rate if I had to. Still my favorite YTer pushing 10yrs or so now! You helped me discover the creativity & passion I have for creating and editing videos, you also helped me find the courage to upload and share those videos with the world. A picture’s worth a thousand words, all of these videos are priceless. You’re a wonderful person. I hope you never stop wondering, it keeps you with something to discover. That’s something my mother taught me. Initiative & ambition. & to always stay positive and share that positivity with the world. I speak for the racing game community when I say thank you for your dedication, your support of us, and your continued enthusiasm for what you do.
Charge half the price, considering you're getting a decent screen and the haptics of the PS5s controller but considering the limitations think of it more of a hands on switch with better handles/joysticks. It needs to be docked/connected to your PS5 to play, make it make sense. At least until the price comes down just a tad or it goes on sale and you're able to do more on it I think I'll pass as of right now. Will be enjoyable to just have my headset connected to it though, have my PS5 on TV off and still just have a blast being immersed in the haptics. Oh the imagination of what it could be.
The latency for me is a dealbreaker. Sorry Theo but that's just me. That and also the fact that you can't sign in to Public Wi-Fi networks that require you to accept their ToS which for me COMPLETELY defeats the purpose of taking the Portal anywhere.
yep, what you said is the reason why i requested a refund at PS Direct despite having it for 3 days but also PS Portable doesnt support Wifi 6 or 6E which to me is a very dumb move.
I’ve tried remote play on the phone/iPad before through my iPhone’s hotspot and at hotel Wi-Fi and it’s never been good. Like you though, I’ve been successful at work using the Wi-Fi there. Also, I’ve purchased an Ethernet to usb-c adapter for my iPad and made the remote play basically flawless. Good enough to play some serious games of Apex Legends. Wi-Fi has always been iffy for remote play in general, so I’m not surprised, but I have found that the portal seems to be generally better than simply using Wi-Fi on a phone with remote play. Also, this is a controller that costs the same as an Edge controller, it’s just another form factor. It’s a controller that you may decide is worth buying for you particular situation. For me, it’s great playing something like Elden Ring on the couch while my 4 year old kid is playing Tears of the Kingdom on the big tv. So far, I’m loving it, but for sure it’s not for everyone. I hope they make it better somehow though.
Bought my portal not too long ago, and as a security guard, this is a life saver. I work on a one man site in an office building, and the internet is really good . Living 30 mins away, im not too far either. 12-hour shifts are at ease now, lol.
With the mobile connection, it can depend on your service provider. Their 'out of the' box set up just doesn't allow streaming from console NAT types. EE needed some custom network settings to get running remote play. This worked fine over 4G for me and also over 5G. That's both using my phone as a hotspot for Vita and Tablet, as well as directly on the phone using PSPlay.
Airplane mode is actually really important. I got on a flight and didn’t turn it off. I ended up pairing with the airplane mid flight and luckily was able to make a safe landing due to my experience on Ace.😊
This device is made for mainly the people with children and those who don't have the time or space at home to play peacefully but still want to game..... it's a niche device (for a growing niche market) and as we all get older and have kids and start dealing with real life may not have the time we'd like to game. This gives you the opportunity to play in your downtime while the kids are sleep......while you're shitting, etc. My boys all have young kids and have been using remote play on BackBone devices when we run on 2k on nights they can play after getting the kids to sleep and I'm up. What they do to combat lag issues is to turn of the 120hz and turn down the resolution of the PS5 to get a better visual and less lag on their cell phones which they use. Yes it's a niche market but Sony has realized that we all get older and have kids........I can attest to having my nephew over often who is of a young gamers age 8-14. I can't sit and play my game in peace because all you'll hear is "Can I play???" then allowing the kid to play you'll for most intents and purposes not get your game back to play it or get stuck playing shit the the kid wants to play.
If they just made an actual portable device that could natively run ps4 games AND remote play ps5 for 400/500 dollars then I can see it being better. But this device just feels so much like a niche to an issue that didn't exist
So just for a comparison, I use my iPad, with a DualShock/dualsense controller paired running off my iPhones hotspot whenever I’m out of the house and I had no issues when I was on a roadtrip across the country, which is why this thing seems so pointless to me.
Actually, as a parsec user, I can't access my gaming PC on data, although I can with some cafe WiFi. The only way to use data is with a VPN to your home. WiFi (or fibre internet) works flawlessly from anywhere for some technical reasons to do with IP, ISP and stuff.
@@X-Horizon-24 I didn't even notice the delay on spider man 2. Either I was just stoked that it worked and didn't pay any attention to it. It felt on point to me.
There is horrid delay on any shooter like Fortnite or COD so the casual gamer will have no use for this garbage, buy a backbone for half the price with Bluetooth… you Sony zealots will praise anything with the PlayStation logo on it no matter how useless it is.
Honestly I dont even think PS5 Pros will ever come : / last time ps4 pros came with the slim. we have gotten the slim ps5 but not yet the pro and plus who even needs a pro version? ps5 base is too overpowered for a console in this time. maybe after 3-4 years it might need a pro but by then you would have a next gen console.
It would not connect to my starlink wifi. And when it eventually did, gameplay lasted a minute at best before failing. Starlink signal was perfect, and no other devices have ever had issues. The portal is an expensive paper weight as far as I'm concerned. Total waste of money and a sad child.
I actually was frustrated that ps hasn’t had a handheld in a long while.. I’m super glad it’s not a handheld that can only play games made for it.. the idea is awesome as personally playing new games on my tv gives me a huge headache. It’s so bad that I haven’t enjoyed ps5 games at all but I enjoy switch oled games a lot. I don’t know what it is really.. is it better games on one platform.. not sure. Yes you can play steam games off your iPad with a controller but I play on my laptop with not the best video card. So, I’m excited that my ps5 at least provides the ability to play these games but thought a handheld would be a great idea. However, the fact that you have to have your ps5 running in order to play? As well as a super fast connection wherever you are is a bit lackluster. No airplane mode play for airplanes.. that the magic they are missing. These are just my opinions
I have a portal it has airplane mode I’ve played on multiple internets works like a charm if it’s not like fast food restaurant WiFi maybe some might work I prefer hot spot but it’s a really cool device I used to not play my ps4/ps3 games at all only ps5 ever since I got this portal I’ve been playing my entire back log of old games & I can actually talk to the family or friends rather than being locked in my room
Yea I’m about 7 hours away from home mine works no lag it’s on my hotspot sprint phone my ps5 is plugged into a land line at home that’s the most important part
My only issue is the latency. The UK is behind on the Internet speeds I'm sure, cause I'm on reddit and gamers across the pond are having a blast. I can only play 3rd person games on mine. I've tried GT7 and it's OK, but I'm not sure if it's my network (I've heard I should invest in a router and not use the one that my isp ships) but right now I'm getting frame rate drops to what seems like 15-20fps when playing online so I avoid it.
Yh the UK doesn't have very good mobile network speeds or internet speeds. Most of our WiFi networks are half fibre based on the old copper networks rather than full fibre to the premises. And the mobile networks aren't full 5G instead 5G ultra wide band which is slower and essentially just a slightly faster 4G
Yea from what I understand the portal will connect to your ps5 as long as they're on the same NAT type. For instance if you mobile Hotspot your portal and have a separate mobile Hotspot for your ps5, it will connect. However it won't work well, definitely better to be wifi on wifi
I think Steam Deck might even be cheaper than you mentioned because you can get a Referb one for way cheaper. Where the 512GB version is same price or cheaper than the old 64GB version.
@@XAV-117 it has a worse screen (800p low quality same one used in the cheap 40£ Amazon fire tabs) vs 1080p on the PlayStation portal worse battery life. I am not saying the PlayStation portal is a great deal, but it isn’t really comparable. Also I haven’t had a good experience with the steam deck it is very buggy and feels like a beta product. You are better off using a tablet if you want to game stream.
I am a few states away for thanksgiving. Ps5 is wired / lan says 1gb down 20mbps up. My wifi out of town says 200mbps down 20mbps up. It's lagging and is unplayable. Rocket league / pubg are not playable. The two games I play. Gonna sell it when I get home and order the oled steamdeck.
@ you have to put your system into rest mode don’t shut it off completely, then make sure wherever your are u have a stable Wi-Fi connection so you can connect remotely
i don't understand the point of this device at all. There are so many similar possibilities on much better prices, in particular cuz you'll have already paid 500USD on a PS5. Another future champion of the used market.
I love the facts that you need to have a ps5 to use this 😂😂😂 sony be like give me moneyyyyy , also i think about all the parents who's gonna buy this for the kids without knowing its not a console but just a streaming device
they should have made it native ps4 games download and remote play to the ps4 only. also add a controller function wired/wireless connect to the ps5 to have some wii u type of gameplay
Man it’s been a while since I’ve seen one of your videos. Used to watch your NFS videos years back, n now you got a Porsche. Happy for your come up bro
thank you for this review. I WAS thinking about buying this as a gift for my brother. This device seems to be mostly unreliable and you saved me a lot of money. Thank you :)
2 reasons why this is the best remote player: 1: a switch or steam deck can play games locally work but a switch needs to be modded to run remote play and if you don't have a steam deck there's no point in spending $400 for console you're just use as a remote player 2: a phone could work but it doesn't really feel like a handheld, it heats up fast, and just wait until you get a call/text/notification
Tips: 1. Change your information on your ps5 if you getting this Device so u don’t get confused if u own two systems 2. Best quality playing offline not good 👍🏽 for online used at times
The only things that are different with the PlayStation Portal compared to a Steam Deck or something like a Backbone is that it has adaptive triggers and vibration when streaming your PS5 games on remote play, so it’s still worth it I think.
I just wanna be able to use the portal like a dedicated wii u controller for the ps5 to boost immersion in every game. Can ya imagine the stuff developers could add to their games that take full advantage of that screen and controller?
I dont know how all these youtube guys are getting such good video quality on this . I have really good internet at home 1GBps and the ps portal lags alot a lot and is super glitchy even when i am at home.
The not having a browser is not a problem! I recently stayed in a hotel and my ps5 walked me through the process step by step worked right away, the just of it you connect your phone/laptop to the ps5 wifi signal and then pick the hotel wifi it will take you to sign in page and then when you sign in the ps5 is hooked up aswell. So I assume the portal would have same option since there is no browser.
Not unless you have it tethered to your mobile data. In which case why not just use your phone to begin with? Why pay £200 to have to jump through all these extra hoops?
I haven't had any problems with mine. I use hotspot at work and play Jedi survivor with zero issues. I absolutely love this thing. The reason I got the portal because my man cave is about 200 feet from the house and since I have small kids who like to see me so i cant do any hardcore gaming until there bed time but now I just sit on the couch and play while they watch cartoons. Also I have my play station wired into my router I don't know if it make a difference but i haven't had any problems.
What you hard core games FAIL to. Realize is the average person really doesn't care about all specs and what i cant do. They are just happy they can easily play their games away from their system
Your PS portal will operate a lot better if the PS five is connected hardwire instead of Wi-Fi learned that because for like the longest my PS portal was always lagging until I decided to go ahead and connect the PS five hardware have no problems. I’m playing the PS portal all the time.
On the Con side of things numbers count. When I say that PS Portal is out of stock and back ordered. So In my opinion PlayStation is now saying they're right on what the consumer wants numbers don't lie $$$$. So how is $ only going to pay attention to the consumer needs when the consumer is buying the product knowing it's faults.
I've realised with the portal is that it struggles at home depending if you find a room where it gets a gd connection to play yes you gunna get a bit of lag but does perform to it's needs. But when or if you travel to places and connect to say a hotel train or holiday WiFi it performs at it's best
I mainly got one because I don’t always have access to a tv and after using it for two days I have been using it to play games yes it’s not perfect but everyone has their own opinion
As an owner of both PSP and PSVita I'm insanely disappointed Not only do you have to be online every time but you also need to have a PS5 in order to have access to games Which kinda defeats the purpose of a handheld
Its a remote play streaming device. Of course u have to be on wifi to stream anything. An actual handheld gaming system would cost way more and need proper 3rd party support.
7:08 That's what I do! Although it doesn't really work on Gran Turismo 6 (Yes I have outdated tech, I have a PS3 as my only Playstation, Xbox One S instad of Series, and a mistreated Nintendo Switch).
Here is the big problem with away from your house network play and if you aren't using use router you are directly connecting the PS Portal too, like a friend's home setup or work (like he did), and if your phone hotspot is not working (like his wasn't) you more than likely will find your next option won't work either. That is being able to connect to any publicly available Wi-Fi (like cafes, hotels, etc.) because almost every case (even though they may have excellent bandwidth) you need a browser to connect (i.e. agree to terms of use, enter a room number, temporary password, etc.) and the PS Portal does not have browser. Even if you can get your phone to work as wi-fi hotspot you may find if your cell service has set data limits and it throttles after certain data, or moves you from 5G to 4G if you pass a set cap or the internet data cap is relatively mid to low, all those data limits issues may come quite quickly with any extended away from home play using your cell service.
I don't understand if you have downloaded games, and you have to connect it to the PS network . Why couldn't you play those games anywhere? It seems like a wasted opportunity to me.
Blah!... All the people crying about it... I was playing it on my steam deck.... But for sony to give us the full haptic feedback and a good screen.. What else do you want them to do when they gave you the world during the p s three era And it got hack and devs Was losing to pirated games..
Yes it works very well took it to my sisters house 30 miles away felt very close to a switch didnt even realize I was online . As long as you have a decent wifi connection your good to go.
A Vita cost $50 more brand new, had its own library of games, played PSP and PS1 games natively, and could stream both the PS4 and PS3. The Portal by comparison is horrid value compared to what Sony gave us before.
It's still more worth it. Hell, steam deck is more worth it, the lcd one, if you get refurbished and best model costs 379 EUR. Which is 179 more for a device that can play everything.
@@lukesono5687 I hope you mean to say that Vita is more worth it than the Portal.
@@dustojnikhummeronly reason i dont like the portal cuz it need internet conection to play the ps5 games the steam deck is its own console
Also u can cloud game on your phone with a backbone type controller, and let's not forget emulators, if you have a 2021+ high end phone with 6gb ram or more, u can even play ps2 games on your phone 🙌🏼🤔🤣
250 12 years ago was a lot more than what 200 is today.
Personally I don't get people who just say "use your phone", I'm sorry but the last thing I want to burn the battery on is my phone. Not only do I want my phone to last the whole day but the more charge cycles I do on it the lower the lifetime of that battery becomes. The phone in my estimation is a terrible device to use for gaming, I need it to keep in touch with my family and my work, it's not for gaming.
Exactly i don’t wanna play on my phone and kill the battery,phone isn’t a video game,i can play on it occasionally but using it as a main device to play games doesn’t make any sense for me.
Unless you don't have an old phone that you could use for remote play then buying the portal is maybe understandable
And for porn
@@AI_KyunNotAnEgg My old phone tends to turn into a backup in case something tragic happens to my current phone. it only works as a backup because at the point where I get a new phone the battery on my old phone doesn't last very long at all and thus would be ill suited to something like game streaming anyways.
I'm the first to say that the Playstation Portal is a niche device but for people in that niche? It absolutely does make sense. I do question if that niche is big enough to really justify Sony making the device in the first place but since I'm in that niche I'll take advantage of it existing :P
@@MetalMayhem1978haha 😕
They should have added a cellular 5G chip inside the Portal itself.... eliminating the need for your phone. Sony could do collabs with wireless carriers and offer a special tier of cellular data part of Playstation +
Funny I think a psp version did collab with a cell network back in the day
@@Kylejking313yeah ps Vita had 3g module, but it was mostly useless
Good luck with the collaboration part of things 😂
yeah it would be so great to have another subscription on top to play remotely
That's a lot more work than you think
Anybody saying this is pointless are crazy. As long as you have good Wi-Fi you can play your PS5 ANYWHERE.
That’s real 💯
Can it play flawlessly on my 20mbps connection?
I dont get it. Does the PS5 console have to be plugged in?
At bare bare bare minium it needs to have web browser capabilities. Usually when you use public wifi they have you connect to it via web browser. Hopefully they can implement one with a software update
It does and you can watch RUclips ,Netflix all that bro you just gotta kno how and it’s simple ,takes exactly 6sec
@@BrodyBroski6what would have been better is you explaining how it does if it really does
@@lrdonle You can literally just look it up on RUclips.
I think people need to be humbled and realize they don’t always have the best network
Eh, sometimes devices are just shit.
My “smart” tv is supposed to connect to wifi but never has, even though my network is great.
We just need a new PSP.
Mine is decent and far from cheap as far as Verizon is concerned. But testing remote play on pc was unplayable. Not sure if it's just a remote play thing because I actually had an incredible my similar experience with my computer connected to my phones hotstop and my home wifi. Either that or I need a stronger connection for my playstation itself but I can logistically set up a wired connection so I have no way of doing so.
While my mesh isn't perfect, it's definitely one of the better. I transfer huge video files over wi-fi daily without issue. I stream 4K uncompressed BDs from my NAS over wi-fi. While not WiFi 6, it holds up very well.
Especially if you live in the country, I know I used to have shit Wi-Fi living out there in the country😂 it’s better now I move to the city and have Xfinity
That's the problem with this PlayStation portal, your at the mercy of your Internet connection which means you loose consistency and picture quality.
Thank you for this practical and honest review. It won’t suit me and I appreciate this being clarified.
Playstation Portal for me i think costed around $240.
I finally bought a PS5 and it's coming in around 1-2 weeks, and everytime I watch PS5 content it makes me even more excited for it. Thank you Theo 👍
You’re going to enjoy it I love my PS5
Bro I'm waiting too!!
Hope you guys enjoy!
What games you getting for it?...you're gonna love it!
@@OfficialSLAYBACK for sure GT7
You can reduce latency by prioritizing remote play UDP port 8572 in your home router. Additionally, 5G is known to have high upload latency regardless of the telco provider you are using.
Also, if you turn off VRR, 120 mode and HDR in the PS5 settings it’s increases the portals resolution and reduces latency
@@junkdnareviews2515hi, where did you get this info from?
If ur at home why wouldnt just use the ps5 itself lmao
@@Sideways_Singh I'm not at home 😁🤣
@@Sideways_Singhsometimes the wife wants your body in the same room she’s in. I can keep playing my game in another room away from the PS5
I got one on day 1 also and I love it. For me, playing (Playstation or Xbox) on a cell phone with a Backbone is not comparable. This stand alone Sony Playstation Portal in my experience is well worth the $199 and I'm enjoying it very much.
Mines super laggy and I regret buying it.
Can you play on it and your ps5 at the same time? Like using a second account?
@mac1bc no. The Portal is basically streaming exactly what the ps5 doing at that time.
@@aaronkehrt5672 alright I see. Thanks
Can you play online without any lag? Like COD warzone? 😅
As this point, PlayStation need to make another PSP
people doesn't realize it's viable anymore for a psp to be viable for sony thing would need to be able to run ps5 games point blank no original title .That's why Nintendo went that way game cost to much to develop now days .
They already did the Vita and people didn't support it and they pulled the plug on it, they won't throw money at another portable again since the switch is dominating the portable gaming market, we're out of luck
The PSP was ahead of its time in 05 it was the only device you could play games, go online, watch movies, and listen to music that you could put in your pocket. by the time the Vita came out your phone could do all those things, so it flopped and a new psp would too, They would have to make a all in one like Nintendo for it to sell.
They should build a portable version of the last gen system. I think it would be sweet if they went with this timeline. Main console then slim console and when the next gen comes, a portable version of the PS4. If the steam deck can run cyberpunk 2077 at a locked 30 then I don't understand why Sony couldn't develop their own version of that.
Or Vita. Couldn't agree more. People don't want to have to access a network just to play a game they enjoy. And before people say 'oh but physical media is going in the way of the dinosaurs', well not if we can help it and STOP buying things digitally. Digital gaming is not the way of the future that people think. I couldn't care less about convenience.
HUGE ADVICE!
Currently the Portal isn't even able to downscale the resolution from your PS5. So if you left it at 4K/120Hz, then you're Portal will struggle. Any phone, tablet or PC would adjust it and so it saves the need to stream 4K to a screen that doesn't even support 4K. Make sure your PS5 is forced to 1080p, 60Hz.
And you can't change those settings using remote play thanks Sony
Ya never had that problem, ever.
And whats the point to have to knowing all this in a random youtube comment instead of the actual device you just bought. Such an amateur job from Sony.
@@TiagoBullets cause it sounds like bs. I've never changed any setting and it runs fine, just like it always has with all remote play devices.
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PlayStation Portal i belive can be as expensive as Original PlayStation 5.
As a ps vita owner, who owns over 150 physical games for it I think the portal makes the vita look like a legacy nintendo product, sure it had lots of apps and games back then but the screen is 480 p and even if its oled it looks worse than anything released today.
I love the portal Im getting one.
don't waste your money.
Sounds like you've already convinced yourself 😂
Just use your phone with 3rd party remote play not the Sony one
I don't know how in the world you think this compares to a Vita, but you do you.
I have 3 modded OLED vitas 😁 they make the portal look outdated 💯 absolutely garbage technology and way outdated
I liked this when you shouted out the return laws, like a true brit
in the era of powerful handheld gaming devices like the Steam Deck, GPD Win or even the others like the Switch / high-end phones + emulators, i really dont understand why Sony decided to neuter this handheld by making it essentially a streaming device. Sony please make another PSP!!
100% agree. I got one to play over the road while I'm gone for work and don't want to pack my 5. I was thinking this was going to be similar to the PSP. But sadly it's not. They kinda shit the bed on this. Great idea less than favorable development
It doesn't need to be on the same network. It can take some time if you're on 5G and away from the PS5's network. It won't happen immediately, but it does work and others have proven this.
Android has the ability to do more dumb things thats why i love it
I can't wait for the android mod community to get their hands on this I know they will do some wildness😂😂
If your Portal isn't connecting by mobile hotspot, then there is something on your phone preventing the connection. Either a VPN being on or some other setting.
Cool points for the styling of the device. I like the way it lights up on the sides.
It’s not even PlayStations fault remote play and cloud gaming just isn’t a reliable way to play games more times than not you’re going to struggle with connection the world isn’t ready yet
But it is Sony's fault that they are pushing towards it when they know FULL WELL that the world in general doesn't have terrific Internet connection. They THINK that digital/online only is the future, but nothing could be FURTHER from the truth. I couldn't care how convenient it may be.
So there is no reason for this device to exist for now...
@@ryukard666 Nope. Especially if not everywhere in the world has terrific Internet and you can NOT use it on Public Wifi networks which makes it practically useless if you want to take it with you. What was Sony thinking?
@@jordanking7711ima truck driver and i have a 25$ mobile hotspot and I get 100gb of wifi for 35$ it's well worth the money for someone like me on the road and with no tv
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Don’t forget that when you’re asking for the vita again, make sure that they make it work with an SD card or have enough on board memory!
Sony is going to do Sony things. A new Vita means they'll make some new obscure memory card that will cost way too much like always.
@CykoX they went with m.2 drives with the ps5. So you never know. But still, sony is sony.
They should spin up the ol' PSP manufacturing line again. That sold 5 times more units than the Vita.
The potential is there. I’d ask for remote play no matter what network as long as both are connected to the internet I don’t see the problem, also a better screen, OLEDs are the way to go, HDR, & I’d sacrifice graphics for the 120hz frame rate if I had to. Still my favorite YTer pushing 10yrs or so now! You helped me discover the creativity & passion I have for creating and editing videos, you also helped me find the courage to upload and share those videos with the world. A picture’s worth a thousand words, all of these videos are priceless. You’re a wonderful person. I hope you never stop wondering, it keeps you with something to discover. That’s something my mother taught me. Initiative & ambition. & to always stay positive and share that positivity with the world. I speak for the racing game community when I say thank you for your dedication, your support of us, and your continued enthusiasm for what you do.
Charge half the price, considering you're getting a decent screen and the haptics of the PS5s controller but considering the limitations think of it more of a hands on switch with better handles/joysticks. It needs to be docked/connected to your PS5 to play, make it make sense. At least until the price comes down just a tad or it goes on sale and you're able to do more on it I think I'll pass as of right now. Will be enjoyable to just have my headset connected to it though, have my PS5 on TV off and still just have a blast being immersed in the haptics. Oh the imagination of what it could be.
Been asking this question for the past 3 days! Great Content Brother!
The latency for me is a dealbreaker. Sorry Theo but that's just me. That and also the fact that you can't sign in to Public Wi-Fi networks that require you to accept their ToS which for me COMPLETELY defeats the purpose of taking the Portal anywhere.
yep, what you said is the reason why i requested a refund at PS Direct despite having it for 3 days but also PS Portable doesnt support Wifi 6 or 6E which to me is a very dumb move.
I’ve tried remote play on the phone/iPad before through my iPhone’s hotspot and at hotel Wi-Fi and it’s never been good. Like you though, I’ve been successful at work using the Wi-Fi there. Also, I’ve purchased an Ethernet to usb-c adapter for my iPad and made the remote play basically flawless. Good enough to play some serious games of Apex Legends. Wi-Fi has always been iffy for remote play in general, so I’m not surprised, but I have found that the portal seems to be generally better than simply using Wi-Fi on a phone with remote play.
Also, this is a controller that costs the same as an Edge controller, it’s just another form factor. It’s a controller that you may decide is worth buying for you particular situation. For me, it’s great playing something like Elden Ring on the couch while my 4 year old kid is playing Tears of the Kingdom on the big tv.
So far, I’m loving it, but for sure it’s not for everyone. I hope they make it better somehow though.
Why didnt they make it like the WII U ? Stream directly from the console to controller without need for internet.
Bought my portal not too long ago, and as a security guard, this is a life saver. I work on a one man site in an office building, and the internet is really good . Living 30 mins away, im not too far either. 12-hour shifts are at ease now, lol.
With the mobile connection, it can depend on your service provider. Their 'out of the' box set up just doesn't allow streaming from console NAT types.
EE needed some custom network settings to get running remote play. This worked fine over 4G for me and also over 5G. That's both using my phone as a hotspot for Vita and Tablet, as well as directly on the phone using PSPlay.
Hi mate I have EE and can’t connect to the portal hotspot . Do you have the same issue ?
Airplane mode is actually really important. I got on a flight and didn’t turn it off. I ended up pairing with the airplane mid flight and luckily was able to make a safe landing due to my experience on Ace.😊
This device is made for mainly the people with children and those who don't have the time or space at home to play peacefully but still want to game..... it's a niche device (for a growing niche market) and as we all get older and have kids and start dealing with real life may not have the time we'd like to game. This gives you the opportunity to play in your downtime while the kids are sleep......while you're shitting, etc. My boys all have young kids and have been using remote play on BackBone devices when we run on 2k on nights they can play after getting the kids to sleep and I'm up. What they do to combat lag issues is to turn of the 120hz and turn down the resolution of the PS5 to get a better visual and less lag on their cell phones which they use. Yes it's a niche market but Sony has realized that we all get older and have kids........I can attest to having my nephew over often who is of a young gamers age 8-14. I can't sit and play my game in peace because all you'll hear is "Can I play???" then allowing the kid to play you'll for most intents and purposes not get your game back to play it or get stuck playing shit the the kid wants to play.
If they just made an actual portable device that could natively run ps4 games AND remote play ps5 for 400/500 dollars then I can see it being better. But this device just feels so much like a niche to an issue that didn't exist
And how many people will spend $500 on that device?
Once you can cloud stream everyone will be blown away its the most comfortable and best screen size on a handheld currently on market
That and they need to be wired to 5G. Bots are going to get REALLY mad and up the trolling extra hard if this happens though.
The Steam Deck OLED is already here.
Love mine. I’ve used it in a handful of hotels. Some work better than others. Also have used it at my in laws house. Works flawlessly at my house.
So just for a comparison, I use my iPad, with a DualShock/dualsense controller paired running off my iPhones hotspot whenever I’m out of the house and I had no issues when I was on a roadtrip across the country, which is why this thing seems so pointless to me.
You still had latency, which this device does too, which is why it shouldn't exist
I'm sorry to see you bought that
Actually, as a parsec user, I can't access my gaming PC on data, although I can with some cafe WiFi. The only way to use data is with a VPN to your home. WiFi (or fibre internet) works flawlessly from anywhere for some technical reasons to do with IP, ISP and stuff.
The fact that I went to another city about an hour away and was able to play is a win for me.
I work fifo so I work 8hrs away from home and can connect my phone it’s so good can’t wait for this
This the comment I was looking for
There was no Input delay at all even an hour away?
@@X-Horizon-24 I didn't even notice the delay on spider man 2. Either I was just stoked that it worked and didn't pay any attention to it. It felt on point to me.
There is horrid delay on any shooter like Fortnite or COD so the casual gamer will have no use for this garbage, buy a backbone for half the price with Bluetooth… you Sony zealots will praise anything with the PlayStation logo on it no matter how useless it is.
Interesting there's Airplane mode for a streaming device... Could there be true standalone Portal alongside PS5 Pro's launch?
After seeing a strip down of the Portal on other channels, unless it is using cloud streaming that would be impossible given the tech on the inside.
Honestly I dont even think PS5 Pros will ever come : / last time ps4 pros came with the slim. we have gotten the slim ps5 but not yet the pro and plus who even needs a pro version? ps5 base is too overpowered for a console in this time. maybe after 3-4 years it might need a pro but by then you would have a next gen console.
Nice demo 👍 I Just got my PS5 couple weeks ago.
Only problem is, it needs wi-fi to be used just about anywhere, so you can't take it to places such as in an airplane.
Most airlines offer free wifi now.
@@anthonyg1307You have to go to a sign-in page to access it, no?
It would not connect to my starlink wifi. And when it eventually did, gameplay lasted a minute at best before failing. Starlink signal was perfect, and no other devices have ever had issues. The portal is an expensive paper weight as far as I'm concerned. Total waste of money and a sad child.
9:46 you can't ignore this stutters when you actually playing, it's something that breaks the experience.
I actually was frustrated that ps hasn’t had a handheld in a long while.. I’m super glad it’s not a handheld that can only play games made for it.. the idea is awesome as personally playing new games on my tv gives me a huge headache. It’s so bad that I haven’t enjoyed ps5 games at all but I enjoy switch oled games a lot. I don’t know what it is really.. is it better games on one platform.. not sure. Yes you can play steam games off your iPad with a controller but I play on my laptop with not the best video card. So, I’m excited that my ps5 at least provides the ability to play these games but thought a handheld would be a great idea. However, the fact that you have to have your ps5 running in order to play? As well as a super fast connection wherever you are is a bit lackluster. No airplane mode play for airplanes.. that the magic they are missing. These are just my opinions
I have a portal it has airplane mode I’ve played on multiple internets works like a charm if it’s not like fast food restaurant WiFi maybe some might work I prefer hot spot but it’s a really cool device I used to not play my ps4/ps3 games at all only ps5 ever since I got this portal I’ve been playing my entire back log of old games & I can actually talk to the family or friends rather than being locked in my room
Yes, i play mine an 1h30 away from home and it's working A1
How
@@esauddiaz5178you just need a wifi connection and your ps5 in rest mode and that’s it
Yea I’m about 7 hours away from home mine works no lag it’s on my hotspot sprint phone my ps5 is plugged into a land line at home that’s the most important part
bro really unplugged his ps5 and brought it outside to take this thumbnail love the effort man! 😂
My only issue is the latency. The UK is behind on the Internet speeds I'm sure, cause I'm on reddit and gamers across the pond are having a blast.
I can only play 3rd person games on mine. I've tried GT7 and it's OK, but I'm not sure if it's my network (I've heard I should invest in a router and not use the one that my isp ships) but right now I'm getting frame rate drops to what seems like 15-20fps when playing online so I avoid it.
Yh the UK doesn't have very good mobile network speeds or internet speeds. Most of our WiFi networks are half fibre based on the old copper networks rather than full fibre to the premises. And the mobile networks aren't full 5G instead 5G ultra wide band which is slower and essentially just a slightly faster 4G
@@foolsfortea yea, I'm rich
Yea from what I understand the portal will connect to your ps5 as long as they're on the same NAT type. For instance if you mobile Hotspot your portal and have a separate mobile Hotspot for your ps5, it will connect. However it won't work well, definitely better to be wifi on wifi
I think Steam Deck might even be cheaper than you mentioned because you can get a Referb one for way cheaper. Where the 512GB version is same price or cheaper than the old 64GB version.
They aren't cheaper, even refurbished (ebay) is a lot more expensive than the £199 playststion portal
@@oo--7714 £700* PS5 not included
@@WineLad if we are going by used it is £340 on gumtree for a ps5.
Actually £300 used for a ps5.
@@XAV-117 it has a worse screen (800p low quality same one used in the cheap 40£ Amazon fire tabs) vs 1080p on the PlayStation portal worse battery life. I am not saying the PlayStation portal is a great deal, but it isn’t really comparable. Also I haven’t had a good experience with the steam deck it is very buggy and feels like a beta product.
You are better off using a tablet if you want to game stream.
I am a few states away for thanksgiving. Ps5 is wired / lan says 1gb down 20mbps up. My wifi out of town says 200mbps down 20mbps up. It's lagging and is unplayable. Rocket league / pubg are not playable. The two games I play. Gonna sell it when I get home and order the oled steamdeck.
yes yes you are mental at times
THE WAY HE JUST KEPT DROPPING IT ON THE TABLE
Cool but u gotta have a ps5 in order to use it. Basically remote play on mobile
I used mine in Georgia and my ps5 is Brooklyn. It worked great
How tf you do that?
@ you have to put your system into rest mode don’t shut it off completely, then make sure wherever your are u have a stable Wi-Fi connection so you can connect remotely
Thats litteraly playstation app with controller
Yeah and if you have a ps5 controller and a phone it's the same
i don't understand the point of this device at all. There are so many similar possibilities on much better prices, in particular cuz you'll have already paid 500USD on a PS5.
Another future champion of the used market.
I love the facts that you need to have a ps5 to use this 😂😂😂 sony be like give me moneyyyyy , also i think about all the parents who's gonna buy this for the kids without knowing its not a console but just a streaming device
Most people have a PS5 already so cope I guess
they should have made it native ps4 games download and remote play to the ps4 only. also add a controller function wired/wireless connect to the ps5 to have some wii u type of gameplay
@@waltuhputurdawayexaggerate much, most people do not own a ps5. 70m total units sold that means about 1% of people own one.
@@waltuhputurdawaym3ist people dont have a ps5.
Is 2023 if you don’t got next gen by now you a bum
Man it’s been a while since I’ve seen one of your videos. Used to watch your NFS videos years back, n now you got a Porsche. Happy for your come up bro
is not worth the price tbh
It's pretty much the price of putting a screen and dualsense controller together... Dualsense already costs $70, so you're paying $130 for the screen
😅You spend that much on junk food
thank you for this review. I WAS thinking about buying this as a gift for my brother. This device seems to be mostly unreliable and you saved me a lot of money. Thank you :)
Most useless device
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2 reasons why this is the best remote player:
1: a switch or steam deck can play games locally work but a switch needs to be modded to run remote play and if you don't have a steam deck there's no point in spending $400 for console you're just use as a remote player
2: a phone could work but it doesn't really feel like a handheld, it heats up fast, and just wait until you get a call/text/notification
Worst device of the century
i use it for my nightshift days, it works pretty well :)
Tips:
1. Change your information on your ps5 if you getting this Device so u don’t get confused if u own two systems
2. Best quality playing offline not good 👍🏽 for online used at times
Very cool video black panthaa
The only things that are different with the PlayStation Portal compared to a Steam Deck or something like a Backbone is that it has adaptive triggers and vibration when streaming your PS5 games on remote play, so it’s still worth it I think.
I just wanna be able to use the portal like a dedicated wii u controller for the ps5 to boost immersion in every game. Can ya imagine the stuff developers could add to their games that take full advantage of that screen and controller?
No oled, proprietary bt, no web browser, no thanks. Great video btw
I dont know how all these youtube guys are getting such good video quality on this . I have really good internet at home 1GBps and the ps portal lags alot a lot and is super glitchy even when i am at home.
I definitely have issues tbh
The not having a browser is not a problem! I recently stayed in a hotel and my ps5 walked me through the process step by step worked right away, the just of it you connect your phone/laptop to the ps5 wifi signal and then pick the hotel wifi it will take you to sign in page and then when you sign in the ps5 is hooked up aswell. So I assume the portal would have same option since there is no browser.
Not unless you have it tethered to your mobile data. In which case why not just use your phone to begin with? Why pay £200 to have to jump through all these extra hoops?
I can see the input lag through video, it is not your driving.
Literally can’t even play this shit a mile away from my house on good wifi. Wtf Sony
Thanks for the information have a great day theo
No problem 👍 you too
Bro your hair and beard are on point 🔥🔥💯
I haven't had any problems with mine. I use hotspot at work and play Jedi survivor with zero issues. I absolutely love this thing. The reason I got the portal because my man cave is about 200 feet from the house and since I have small kids who like to see me so i cant do any hardcore gaming until there bed time but now I just sit on the couch and play while they watch cartoons. Also I have my play station wired into my router I don't know if it make a difference but i haven't had any problems.
Same
What you hard core games FAIL to. Realize is the average person really doesn't care about all specs and what i cant do. They are just happy they can easily play their games away from their system
Set your ps5 output to the same native res on the tomy toy and you will get a much smoother experience.
Your PS portal will operate a lot better if the PS five is connected hardwire instead of Wi-Fi learned that because for like the longest my PS portal was always lagging until I decided to go ahead and connect the PS five hardware have no problems. I’m playing the PS portal all the time.
Yeah ive found with the 4G it doesnt work as well but when i have 5G i can get it to work fairly well sometimes!
On the Con side of things numbers count. When I say that PS Portal is out of stock and back ordered.
So In my opinion PlayStation is now saying they're right on what the consumer wants numbers don't lie $$$$.
So how is $ only going to pay attention to the consumer needs when the consumer is buying the product knowing it's faults.
I've realised with the portal is that it struggles at home depending if you find a room where it gets a gd connection to play yes you gunna get a bit of lag but does perform to it's needs. But when or if you travel to places and connect to say a hotel train or holiday WiFi it performs at it's best
all i want to ask is does the ps5 need to be on all the time in order to play on this. one thing no youtuber mentions!
Thank you for giving us an hinest review. Ill be subscribing thanks
I mainly got one because I don’t always have access to a tv and after using it for two days I have been using it to play games yes it’s not perfect but everyone has their own opinion
Great review man!
As an owner of both PSP and PSVita I'm insanely disappointed
Not only do you have to be online every time but you also need to have a PS5 in order to have access to games
Which kinda defeats the purpose of a handheld
Its a remote play streaming device. Of course u have to be on wifi to stream anything. An actual handheld gaming system would cost way more and need proper 3rd party support.
@@nodakgirl93So they should spend the money to make it then
7:08 That's what I do! Although it doesn't really work on Gran Turismo 6 (Yes I have outdated tech, I have a PS3 as my only Playstation, Xbox One S instad of Series, and a mistreated Nintendo Switch).
It's nice to hear Theo not screaming
Whoa, that's an OG trackball!
You can change the settings to higher quality and connection quality to run a lot smoother
Here is the big problem with away from your house network play and if you aren't using use router you are directly connecting the PS Portal too, like a friend's home setup or work (like he did), and if your phone hotspot is not working (like his wasn't) you more than likely will find your next option won't work either. That is being able to connect to any publicly available Wi-Fi (like cafes, hotels, etc.) because almost every case (even though they may have excellent bandwidth) you need a browser to connect (i.e. agree to terms of use, enter a room number, temporary password, etc.) and the PS Portal does not have browser. Even if you can get your phone to work as wi-fi hotspot you may find if your cell service has set data limits and it throttles after certain data, or moves you from 5G to 4G if you pass a set cap or the internet data cap is relatively mid to low, all those data limits issues may come quite quickly with any extended away from home play using your cell service.
I think you should go to settings & change it from automatic to 2.4g instead. That’s might work better. 5G works but it drops out
At first I thought it was fake but then I looked it up and said holy s**t
I don't understand if you have downloaded games, and you have to connect it to the PS network . Why couldn't you play those games anywhere? It seems like a wasted opportunity to me.
Blah!... All the people crying about it... I was playing it on my steam deck.... But for sony to give us the full haptic feedback and a good screen.. What else do you want them to do when they gave you the world during the p s three era And it got hack and devs Was losing to pirated games..
Yes it works very well took it to my sisters house 30 miles away felt very close to a switch didnt even realize I was online . As long as you have a decent wifi connection your good to go.
U were able to play it away from the Ps5?
Can you help me
The absence of a web browser to log in to hotel/cafe wifi is a major deal breaker
Agreed. Completely defeats the purpose of taking your gaming on the go in my opinion.