Edit: It's short neck tenon and a two piece body (the line in the neck cavity is a router line, and it was tricky but I did find a seam line on the body)
I have 4 Les Pauls - 1979 Deluxe Pro, 2010 Trad, 2012 Trad, and my 2015 Trad. My 2015 is the best of the bunch - and sounds killer! I replaced the nut, tuners, added pointer knob/50s top hat knobs and haven't looked back. Sack up if you dont like the original '50s solid body & neck!!!
Around when these were new you could contact Gibson and the would send you a titanium nut replacement free of charge. I’m not sure if it is still the case. The robo tuner is great for cover bands were you might need alternate tunings. It is much faster and you can manually tweak after most of the work is done. I got 2 of these. One a special for dirt cheap. And one tuner is more accurate than the other. The wide neck in general I don’t prefer but it is better for string separation and if you have big hand or thick fingers it is probably a great choice. You get used to the neck. It is like the opposite of playing a thin neck jazzmaster. It won’t stop you from being able to play.
Great guitars that are often overlooked by folks. I understand why, but honestly, it is pretty easy to adapt to that neck--for me, anyway. My 2015 SG Special if fantastic. I got the titanium nut from Gibson for free. I'm going to eventually replace the G-Force system with the Hipshot tuners, as they are light weight, and require no modification..
have a SR Trad , a HP Trad, a SR Standard, a HP Studio out of that area, got Ti replacement nuts covers all pick ups , look stunning and play very well...never snapped a string❤👍
I own a Les Paul Traditional, a Burst. Since I am left handed, it was a surprise finding one in Gruhn's Guitars used section for $1800.00 perfect condition. I like it, like my SG as well. Each guitar has a tone and qualities.
I recently got a 2014 traditional and I love the 59 tribute pickups. And the guitar build quality is awesome. It sounds fantastic. And it's top is beautiful like yours
The build quality on these 2015 models was fantastic. I had this model, I believe, and the neck was super fat, in addition to being extra wide for that year. The combination of the fatness and the wideness made it actually enormous and uncomfortable. The robot tuners were an easy thing to fix if somebody wanted to do that, these guitars get a bad rap.
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I love mine, and specially the pickups. Those 1959 tribute are incredible.
I bought a 2011 Trad just to compare to a 2013 Standard and wow what a beast! Thick neck, solid heavy body and stayed in tune. No circuit board, coil taps, weight relief, etc. The Standard is great too despite a few "refinements" I did like put proper hard wiring in to accept Duncan pickups. But the Trad roared without any changes. Just don't get why Gibson started doing "untraditional" things to the Trad as it defeats the purpose.
Gibson used to sent a replacement titanium nut like the 2016 models had. This neck are way woodier than any custom shop... I had this guitar and had to sold it because the neck is monstrous, almost like a classic acoustic! the pickups were amazing!
I have a 2015 LP Standard 100 in transamber. It is simply the best Les Paul I have ever owned in terms of playability, sound and appearance. I know the 2015 models get a bad rap. But mine is a late year sprint run model so many of the undesireable specs were corrected.
I hunted down a Ltd Ed 2015 LP Trad Sprint Run . Don't know how many got imported to the UK. It's effectively the missing link between the despised 2015s and hasty revised 2016s. Imho it keeps the best new features of the 2015s, while discarding the Robo Tuners and wider neck. I personally welcomed the adjustable nut as I grew up with zero frets on British/Euro made guitars.. Gibson addressed potential problems with brass nuts by quickly offering replacement titanium nuts free on application. I never liked the idea of nibs, so was happy they'd gone. As for the 'improved strength' case, I put a hole in it, by accidentally knocking it lightly against the corner of a table. My Sprint LP has poor quality control on neck binding finish, But I kept it as due to being Ltd Ed, there were no others available at the time for swapping. I also own a 2015 LP Jnr Double cut. I'm keeping the Robo tuners on it for now, but my concern is will Gibson maintain a stock of affordable replacement batteries ??? Btw, this also had quality control issues - requiring replacement toggle switch. But at least Gibson Customer Service resolved this efficiently.
Hi. Mine is a "hog top". Just came from shop for nut work, and came with Gibson Deluxe tuners. Plays and sounds great, I love it. I think the thing is, the modern Standard got push-pulls and dip switch on PCB board; then this was supposed to be for purists, but the mod specs ruined it for them. I took advantage of the haters' discount, and got them both- in "hog top". Had the Standard hand-wired, makes night and day difference in the tone features. BTW, graphtech make a tuned Tusq pick- bright, medium, and dark. Nice grip features- DO NOT pick slide- the wound strings eat them up. Nice review, keep awn!! Ü ♫
I have the standard and I love it. Never broke a string, I love the brass nut and I love being able to adjust it. I did get rid of the tuning device I didn’t like it I put zero radius tuners on. Looking back I never understood why mine cost $3500 from Sweetwater. As soon as I bought I went on EBay and they were $700 cheaper. If you look now a standard Les Paul costs much less on sweetwater, why is that? Does anyone know why in 2016 Sweetwater was charging $3500 for a 2015 les Paul Standard? Seems I remember it being a triple flame maple or something but my sweetwater account just shows it to be a standard nothing about the maple top.
a great in depth look at an underrated guitar in my opinion, the tusq nut work great on this , i changed mine out a good while back, luckily mine came without the Gforce and was fitted with Klusons
I also replaced the nut to the Tusq direct replacement. It made a big difference for the g force tuning system. I find that it actually works quite well now.
I have the same one in tobacco sunburst but without the G force with manual tuners 12 copies only in this sunburst color a sound an incredible resonance even when empty it rings
I tried a Junior from this era, I actually liked it a lot. Very different feeling neck to a real ‘55 Junior, but I liked the extra width and slightly flatter profile. Different, but cool. I really like the idea of the adjustable nut, and the titanium upgrade seemed like a great idea. The robotuners would get pulled quick, and the really bad Les Paul script is awful, but I could get past that. If I’d had the scratch then I would have bought it. Wouldn’t say no to one now, for sure.
I got one of these as it was too cheap to turn down at 850 gbp (less than my 2 Lifeson Epiphones) and it’s fine - like the tuners, finish is really nice. Neck a bit on the fat side and wide but fine to play and I got it to be different - I don’t have the problem of falling off the edge I get on my other Les pauls which are 60s necks. The brass nut wore very fast and had to replace it with an after market graphtech which is fine. My only regret is not buying a standard at the same time as they were so cheap !
It’s a good guitar to buy and pretty easy to give it more normal specs like a nice nut and normal tuners….would still cost less than a newer standard but much more work to get it the same.
Tell ya what I got what they called a traditional classic 2015LP Regular nut, logo nibs slimmer neck no sticker plain top 57 classic pu’s Weight relieved nickel hardware Iegit brass saddle abr1 Robo tuners already gone Only thing missing is the long neck joint Sorry for rambling but it’s got everything a Paul needs and no bs check em out
@@joecooper7803-I know, it was a bad attempt at humor. p.s. I’ve owned many Gibsons and have done quite a bit of work on them. Again, just bad humor on my part! Have a great day.
As someone who has broken his left thumb 8 times and had the tip of it cut off, i really appreciate a thicker neck. I have a 2020 LP standard 50's. This is a great compromise between ballbat and shredder necks
I have a traditional 2019 , and it has everything a 58 reissue has. Big chunky neck etc orange drop . I switched the trust rod for a blank one. And also it does not have that weird Les Paul gold marker on the headstock. And I’ve pay an amazing price . At long and Mcquade. It was mint. The guy before me had just brought it the day before I bought it. He never even play it.
These all had 2 piece bodies. only the custom shop reissues were one piece Bodies.. And these were not made with a long neck tenon. Once again that was only offered on the custom shop Guitars
@@boechlerguitarsandrepair Yes Unfortunately Gibson only uses the long tenon and one piece bodies for their Custom shop guitars. A good friend of mine worked for them before the new ownership took over but even the new company post 2019 is sticking with that same policy of short tenon and two piece bodies for the USA Production guitars. it is a cost/time saving thing for them i was told. I will admit they do a amazing job of joining the two pieces of mahogany so much so spotting the seam joining the two pieces is sometimes almost impossible!
Rad top on that one, nice score. If it actually has a long neck tenon then you might have something really special because those would have had short tenons
All USA Gibson production guitars Have the regular set neck. The only ones that have long neck tenon are the custom shop guitars. This was done to keep the reissues historically accurate. Gibson does not bother using it on their standard Production guitars.
I've had one of the 2015 Gibson's and sold it mainly because of the neck. It's not that it's a baseball bat thick, it's because it's wide, and by that I mean it feels almost like a 7 string. I said it once and I'll say it again- shame, because they've had amazing colour choices that year.
It's funny, me being a budget player I'd be absolutely over the moon to have the chance to own an LP from even this era. It would be such an upgrade... ...at the same time, though, I completely understand the hate these got in the community. For me it kind of just boils down to a question of "why" for every strange design choice.
They increased the nut width without widening the string spacing! Not a pro level instrument,in terms of playability. The brass nut wears out quickly. Gibson used to offer a free titanium replacement. Robot tuners are extremely difficult to turn manually. Buy a cheaper model with a normal neck.
You missed the most glaringly annoying bit about the 2015 Trad, and that is the insanely horrible Les Paul signature on the headstock face…. The nail in the coffin for Gibsons CEO me thinks
I have one in ocean blue. I was hesitant but loved the color and sound. I got used to the big neck. I love the removable pick guard. Robo tuners, I don’t mind them. I am more of an SG guy but I am keeping it as my Paul. Also, if the neck is similar to the R8/9, not sure why there was so much hate. Is this the same neck shape on the 59? The pickups are great.
There is some grain on the back that slightly looks like a seam but it's not across the whole body. I thoroughly inspected the back and sides and no seam lines
Edit: It's short neck tenon and a two piece body (the line in the neck cavity is a router line, and it was tricky but I did find a seam line on the body)
You're doing an awesome job. Thank you so much for your channel
You were actually correct, some 2015s do have one piece bodies.
I have 4 Les Pauls - 1979 Deluxe Pro, 2010 Trad, 2012 Trad, and my 2015 Trad. My 2015 is the best of the bunch - and sounds killer! I replaced the nut, tuners, added pointer knob/50s top hat knobs and haven't looked back. Sack up if you dont like the original '50s solid body & neck!!!
Great review! Eyeing one of these used as my next guitar. The necks on this model were fantastic!
Around when these were new you could contact Gibson and the would send you a titanium nut replacement free of charge. I’m not sure if it is still the case. The robo tuner is great for cover bands were you might need alternate tunings. It is much faster and you can manually tweak after most of the work is done. I got 2 of these. One a special for dirt cheap. And one tuner is more accurate than the other. The wide neck in general I don’t prefer but it is better for string separation and if you have big hand or thick fingers it is probably a great choice. You get used to the neck. It is like the opposite of playing a thin neck jazzmaster. It won’t stop you from being able to play.
Great guitars that are often overlooked by folks. I understand why, but honestly, it is pretty easy to adapt to that neck--for me, anyway. My 2015 SG Special if fantastic. I got the titanium nut from Gibson for free. I'm going to eventually replace the G-Force system with the Hipshot tuners, as they are light weight, and require no modification..
have a SR Trad , a HP Trad, a SR Standard, a HP Studio out of that area, got Ti replacement nuts covers all pick ups , look stunning and play very well...never snapped a string❤👍
I own a Les Paul Traditional, a Burst. Since I am left handed, it was a surprise finding one in Gruhn's Guitars used section for $1800.00 perfect condition. I like it, like my SG as well. Each guitar has a tone and qualities.
I like these guitars, own 4 of them. Solid instruments!
I recently got a 2014 traditional and I love the 59 tribute pickups. And the guitar build quality is awesome. It sounds fantastic. And it's top is beautiful like yours
Gibson stopped making Traditional about 3 years ago! I have a 08
The build quality on these 2015 models was fantastic. I had this model, I believe, and the neck was super fat, in addition to being extra wide for that year. The combination of the fatness and the wideness made it actually enormous and uncomfortable. The robot tuners were an easy thing to fix if somebody wanted to do that, these guitars get a bad rap.
I love mine, and specially the pickups. Those 1959 tribute are incredible.
I bought a 2011 Trad just to compare to a 2013 Standard and wow what a beast! Thick neck, solid heavy body and stayed in tune. No circuit board, coil taps, weight relief, etc. The Standard is great too despite a few "refinements" I did like put proper hard wiring in to accept Duncan pickups. But the Trad roared without any changes. Just don't get why Gibson started doing "untraditional" things to the Trad as it defeats the purpose.
Gibson used to sent a replacement titanium nut like the 2016 models had. This neck are way woodier than any custom shop... I had this guitar and had to sold it because the neck is monstrous, almost like a classic acoustic! the pickups were amazing!
I have a 2015 LP Standard 100 in transamber. It is simply the best Les Paul I have ever owned in terms of playability, sound and appearance. I know the 2015 models get a bad rap. But mine is a late year sprint run model so many of the undesireable specs were corrected.
I hunted down a Ltd Ed 2015 LP Trad Sprint Run . Don't know how many got imported to the UK. It's effectively the missing link between the despised 2015s and hasty revised 2016s. Imho it keeps the best new features of the 2015s, while discarding the Robo Tuners and wider neck. I personally welcomed the adjustable nut as I grew up with zero frets on British/Euro made guitars.. Gibson addressed potential problems with brass nuts by quickly offering replacement titanium nuts free on application. I never liked the idea of nibs, so was happy they'd gone. As for the 'improved strength' case, I put a hole in it, by accidentally knocking it lightly against the corner of a table. My Sprint LP has poor quality control on neck binding finish, But I kept it as due to being Ltd Ed, there were no others available at the time for swapping. I also own a 2015 LP Jnr Double cut. I'm keeping the Robo tuners on it for now, but my concern is will Gibson maintain a stock of affordable replacement batteries ??? Btw, this also had quality control issues - requiring replacement toggle switch. But at least Gibson Customer Service resolved this efficiently.
Hi. Mine is a "hog top". Just came from shop for nut work, and came with Gibson Deluxe tuners. Plays and sounds great, I love it.
I think the thing is, the modern Standard got push-pulls and dip switch on PCB board; then this was supposed to be for purists, but the mod specs ruined it for them.
I took advantage of the haters' discount, and got them both- in "hog top". Had the Standard hand-wired, makes night and day difference in the tone features.
BTW, graphtech make a tuned Tusq pick- bright, medium, and dark. Nice grip features- DO NOT pick slide- the wound strings eat them up. Nice review, keep awn!! Ü ♫
I have the standard and I love it. Never broke a string, I love the brass nut and I love being able to adjust it. I did get rid of the tuning device I didn’t like it I put zero radius tuners on. Looking back I never understood why mine cost $3500 from Sweetwater. As soon as I bought I went on EBay and they were $700 cheaper. If you look now a standard Les Paul costs much less on sweetwater, why is that? Does anyone know why in 2016 Sweetwater was charging $3500 for a 2015 les Paul Standard? Seems I remember it being a triple flame maple or something but my sweetwater account just shows it to be a standard nothing about the maple top.
a great in depth look at an underrated guitar in my opinion, the tusq nut work great on this , i changed mine out a good while back, luckily mine came without the Gforce and was fitted with Klusons
I also replaced the nut to the Tusq direct replacement. It made a big difference for the g force tuning system. I find that it actually works quite well now.
I have the same one in tobacco sunburst but without the G force with manual tuners 12 copies only in this sunburst color a sound an incredible resonance even when empty it rings
I tried a Junior from this era, I actually liked it a lot. Very different feeling neck to a real ‘55 Junior, but I liked the extra width and slightly flatter profile. Different, but cool. I really like the idea of the adjustable nut, and the titanium upgrade seemed like a great idea. The robotuners would get pulled quick, and the really bad Les Paul script is awful, but I could get past that.
If I’d had the scratch then I would have bought it. Wouldn’t say no to one now, for sure.
I got one of these as it was too cheap to turn down at 850 gbp (less than my 2 Lifeson Epiphones) and it’s fine - like the tuners, finish is really nice. Neck a bit on the fat side and wide but fine to play and I got it to be different - I don’t have the problem of falling off the edge I get on my other Les pauls which are 60s necks. The brass nut wore very fast and had to replace it with an after market graphtech which is fine. My only regret is not buying a standard at the same time as they were so cheap !
Great review, these are great LP’s. I have the SG 61 style without the price tag and it’s fabulous. Titanium nut as standard.
It’s a good guitar to buy and pretty easy to give it more normal specs like a nice nut and normal tuners….would still cost less than a newer standard but much more work to get it the same.
Tell ya what I got what they called a traditional classic 2015LP
Regular nut, logo nibs slimmer neck no sticker plain top 57 classic pu’s
Weight relieved nickel hardware
Iegit brass saddle abr1
Robo tuners already gone
Only thing missing is the long neck joint
Sorry for rambling but it’s got everything a Paul needs and no bs check em out
The only thing missing is a joint?
@@marions.120 The long neck tenon that goes into the pickup cavity. It only has the short one.
@@joecooper7803-I know, it was a bad attempt at humor. p.s. I’ve owned many Gibsons and have done quite a bit of work on them. Again, just bad humor on my part! Have a great day.
I had the same guitar on ocean blue insane guitar, top notch specs.
As someone who has broken his left thumb 8 times and had the tip of it cut off, i really appreciate a thicker neck. I have a 2020 LP standard 50's. This is a great compromise between ballbat and shredder necks
Thx I’m not sure but I have one LP Gib son that looks chunky like this one. Love your channel . I love any brand guitars that feel and sound right .
I have a traditional 2019 , and it has everything a 58 reissue has. Big chunky neck etc orange drop . I switched the trust rod for a blank one. And also it does not have that weird Les Paul gold marker on the headstock. And I’ve pay an amazing price . At long and Mcquade. It was mint. The guy before me had just brought it the day before I bought it. He never even play it.
quilt is different to flame.
These all had 2 piece bodies. only the custom shop reissues were one piece Bodies.. And these were not made with a long neck tenon. Once again that was only offered on the custom shop Guitars
I searched the endgrain this is definitely one piece body and there is a tenon join line in the neck pickup cavity
I had a closer look you are right, the joint line was a router line and i managed to find the seam line on the body. pinned the edit
@@boechlerguitarsandrepair Yes Unfortunately Gibson only uses the long tenon and one piece bodies for their Custom shop
guitars. A good friend of mine worked for them before the new ownership took over but even the new company post 2019 is sticking with that same policy of short tenon and two piece bodies for the USA Production guitars. it is a cost/time saving thing for them i was told.
I will admit they do a amazing job of joining the two pieces of mahogany so much so spotting the seam joining the two pieces is sometimes almost impossible!
Rad top on that one, nice score.
If it actually has a long neck tenon then you might have something really special because those would have had short tenons
All USA Gibson production guitars Have the regular set neck. The only ones that have long neck tenon are the custom shop guitars. This was done to keep the reissues historically accurate. Gibson does not bother using it on their standard Production guitars.
I've had one of the 2015 Gibson's and sold it mainly because of the neck. It's not that it's a baseball bat thick, it's because it's wide, and by that I mean it feels almost like a 7 string. I said it once and I'll say it again- shame, because they've had amazing colour choices that year.
You missed the titanium bridge saddles and cryogenically treated low frets.
How did you miss that logo?? That Les Paul signature on the headstock is atrocious! You may mention it and I missed it but if not.....
I feel I got the best guitar. A 2016 studio. I want a brand new Les Paul but I cant justify due to my studio.
It's funny, me being a budget player I'd be absolutely over the moon to have the chance to own an LP from even this era. It would be such an upgrade...
...at the same time, though, I completely understand the hate these got in the community. For me it kind of just boils down to a question of "why" for every strange design choice.
They increased the nut width without widening the string spacing! Not a pro level instrument,in terms of playability. The brass nut wears out quickly. Gibson used to offer a free titanium replacement. Robot tuners are extremely difficult to turn manually. Buy a cheaper model with a normal neck.
With the tuners, you should try tunning by string it's easier and more accurate. Just hold the on button for 3 or 4 seconds and tune each string.
Yes! I figured this out by the end of the video. Still not perfect, but it definitely helped
I’ve never seen those types of tuners before , I had that amp,
You missed the most glaringly annoying bit about the 2015 Trad, and that is the insanely horrible Les Paul signature on the headstock face…. The nail in the coffin for Gibsons CEO me thinks
The top is clearly flamed without a hint of the "quilt" that he keeps referring to.
27:30 pretty sure its a two piece body it just done very well and hard to see. I can see it on this time stamp.
Good eye
@@boechlerguitarsandrepair My Classic is also two , I kind of prefer the look of two pieces matches the top.
It's the nut width that people hate. It's as wide as a classical guitar.
Imagine putting robo tuners on something called "traditional" hahahaha
I love my 2015 classic with 6105 dunlop frets ....!
They also had great top too. Mostly AA TO AAA
I have one in ocean blue. I was hesitant but loved the color and sound. I got used to the big neck. I love the removable pick guard. Robo tuners, I don’t mind them. I am more of an SG guy but I am keeping it as my Paul. Also, if the neck is similar to the R8/9, not sure why there was so much hate. Is this the same neck shape on the 59? The pickups are great.
That is a short neck tenon......there is a "smile" in the wood at the end when it is a long neck tenon.
there is a joint line in the neck pickup cavity, I think it looks a little different than the smile due to the larger neck
Yes only the custom shop guitars came with a long neck tenon.
You are correct. I pinned an edit
@@boechlerguitarsandrepair No harm no foul, Gibson does a incredible Job of joining the two pieces of mahogany for the body!
2013 Traditional is where it's at 👌
Any body know the Model for the Tusq nut? I couldn't find it on the Graphtech web site. All in all, my 2015 Traditional is a Monster! Great guitar.
Graphtech Guitar Saddle, Ivory (PQL-6110-00) a.co/d/ghpUKVn
Hi, did you by any chance opportunity to compare how does the neck feel compared to the 50s Standards from 2019 and newer?
Def two piece body you can see the seem line in the video clearly.
There is some grain on the back that slightly looks like a seam but it's not across the whole body. I thoroughly inspected the back and sides and no seam lines
You are correct. I pinned an edit
Excellent review…great job my man👍
Much appreciated!
Flame or quilt. Take your pick.
Odiata? Odiare una Gibson? Chi non volesse una Gibson simile me la può regalare. Io la amerò come si può amare l'amore della propria vita
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I have a 2019 SG modern in blueberry fade and I wNt to trade it for a Gibson les Paul or a Gibson explorer because the neck on my SG is too big
this neck is huge as well
I hate the LP 100 silk screen on the face of the headstock.....along with all of the other terrible things on these models.
Can't find it on reverb, I guess it's year specific.
i think that is a no tenon neck join can't see the neck pocket ?
It looks like it was a close fit, there was a join line far into the neck pickup cavity
Flame top, not quilt.
Was this Henry Jerkowicz last mistake…no, then the robot guitar came along?
I like
You can't hate Gibson Les Paul.
Sometimes you can't even buy it😂
As I get older nut height becomes more of an issue. 😂
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Robo Tuners 😮
You're rough handling that guitar
The width of the neck turns me off.
I don't like a screw on neck.
Its a set neck
oh god. not this obscenity....
Gibson no one is paying any attention to that much anymore it's Epiphone now all the way..
hi there are there any other models with the super neck size and 57/58/59 pickups?
2015 Gibson Les Paul Less Plus models come with super wide neck and 57 Classic & 57 Classic Plus pickups.
@@Bottomdweller thanks a lot