The difference between a high fear rider and low fear rider...
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- In this video, you'll see a rider with good skills and a low fear level that rides with a drill team and wants to improve his skills even further. I'll also show you a rider with a high fear level who is getting over his fears little by little.
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These skills are no joke. I’m on motors for my sheriffs department and this was one of the toughest courses I’ve ever taken
Thank you so much for showing riders who are afraid of leaning and dropping and overcoming their fears.
@Travis Clark what does the brand matter?
@Travis Clark yeah that's what i dont understand either.
Maybe it's a US Thing lol
Just buy a smaller and light weight naked bike
All I can say is regardless of rider fear level you had two excellent students for this video. Keep the videos coming !
I really can appreciate the time you spend with these guys helping them over their fears. I see a lot of people who need to take classes
i have been teaching myself to lean as far as the scrape, didn't realize this was a good thing...Thank you!
These videos are so great. I have my endorsement, but I took a refresher course through Harley Davidson Learn To Ride. Just from watching these videos I learned a lot by watching ur videos. I’ll be in touch soon Motorman!!👍👍
I learn something every time I watch.
Great stuff thanks to everyone who is trying to help the rest of us
Your videos are very well explained, I used to think I'm the only one having the fear of leaning and dropping bike on the leg... but now I can see how fear actually gets in the way, the more fearful, the wider the turn
I appreciate you showing folks who are doing things RIGHT and those who are improving, instead of focusing exclusively on those who make mistakes. It also helps that some of these riders didn't get it right the very first time they took your class... I taught High School for a while, and currently teach handloading and firearms-related skills, and your teaching style -at least what i have seen in the videos- seems to strike a great balance between honest criticism and positive reinforcement. Tough to do, but effective.
"...to strike a great balance between honest criticism and positive reinforcement. Tough to do..."
Actually, "academically speaking" it's NOT so tough, really...
First, let me preface, that you ARE an instructor, and thereby probably already have some instinct built and refined for this kind of thing... SO I'm putting in "about two cents' worth" as much for public consumption as for any of your (OP) personal gains. I DO hope you get something, like a quick articulate explanation, but if not so much other than a reinforcement of what you know... also fair enough. AND I'm confident I can take a little time and absorb your input in case you find something to add... other than of course to correct my "colorful way of expressing it"... The "colorful" prose helps me remember, and seems to get folks started well when I pass it along.
Okay... SO there's a difference between "a constructive critique" and "flat-out criticism"... A flat-out criticism, is nothing more than a list of pointers about what's "wrong"... It's like being back in high school English class and facing a thesis paper with a middle-road grade and page after page of "red marks"... Bad grammar... "Is it a comma or period"... Run on sentences... Sentence fragments... etc...etc...etc.. Until you begin to wonder if the Teacher even read anything... instead of just coloring it all with her damn red pen... It made English class SUCK, and it's no fun to face anywhere else...
ON The other hand, a "Constructive Critique" is a more complete package... Yeah, we HAVE to see some "red marks"... BUT it won't kill the Teacher to get out a different color of ink once in a while and scratch a smiley face or even an arrow, "I LOVE THIS"... Just to flesh out that she DID in fact read a few words just to read it... Right???
SO my usual "formula" for a decent "critique" is basic... I call it the "Shit sandwich"... Because you get two slices of toast, all warm and at least pleasantly crunchy... and of course that bit of shit in the middle just to get it out of the way...
1. Something you did that was Good... actual compliment... It doesn't take a lot, but an honest (yeah, don't lie either) pointer to something frankly GOOD about what you saw or are grading...
2. Something that is pretty honestly off or "wrong" with the thing. This is that "shit in the middle"... We have to deal with it, so be direct without being outright rude... It is what it is... and get it over with... You CAN elaborate a bit as to what is wrong and why it's "bad"... and how to improve upon it... with a little reassurance (if necessary) that it's a temporary condition and we're here (as instructors) to help get it worked out...
3. End on another positive note. It doesn't have to be another outright compliment... BUT it should be something like progress is made or similarly along "the student is improving" and "how far it's coming along at a good pace"... Of course, where there IS more than one thing good to be said, let it out... but we don't have to butter anybody up unnecessarily, either...
AND that, roughly is an approximately academically formulated method to put together a damn decent critique. Obviously, a three-part structure doesn't always fit... There are exceptions to everything, and that's why we get things on an instinctive level as we advance past the formulas and systems of youthful "book learning"... BUT if you needed to put such a method together (say... to help an inexperienced instructor with a few difficult students) this seems to help folks who actually want to understand... at least, in my experience.
It certainly gets better results when I'm helping an animator or artist with a project they're working on, and occasionally gets me money and praise to boot... and art is a pretty vague and subjective thing to be "critiquing"... leading many to retort "But it's my style!" or "Well, everyone's got an opinion..." and promptly dismiss anything they don't want to hear... or read... ;o)
I have been riding for 19 years now, just got my first big bike (electra glide limited) and it's been a bit of a transition. I just came across your videos a few days ago and I feel like my riding skills have greatly improved since then. Thank you!
Couldn't think of a better role model in everyday motorcycling then a motorcycle cop, let alone an instructor of motorcycle cops; the amount of hours put in on a bike while working with very few incidents are VERY impressive with this group of motorcyclists. Thank you sir!!
Absolutely, Thanks to these riders for letting him film it so we can see. Great video!
I have a 2004 Vulcan drifter and man.. its been tough for me to get into leaning it for sharp turns. I keep getting tips from these videos so i really enjoy it. I havnt dropped it yet so I think once I do it for the first time some of my fear will be gone.
It's really true what Jerry says: where you look is where the motorcycle is going to go! When you turn your head correctly you nail the turn. That's always the toughest part for me
Here's me on my Drifter 1500 ruclips.net/video/kELrUoUxihA/видео.html
@@quiettime6871 me too
I love these videos. And thanks to the students for letting you record and publish them! I live in Western North Carolina, I rode my Goldwing to Mom's in New Port Richey. We were actually driving in her car, right past you when the Harley went down. I told Mom, I bet that's Palladino teaching someone! I should have come by and said hello....
Glad you like them!
I love just listening to these v twins! It’s music to my ears!
Yes it is!
Yes it helps I am beginning rider and after the class I failed your. Videos are. Amazing value to me .
Rewatched this one a few times. Great vid. Gonna run these drills with my street glide this weekend. Put in that work
I can maneuver at low speeds like a champ on my heritage classic. Just bought a used ultra classic and realized i didn't fully appreciate how "lightweight" the heritage really is til I got back on it
i have a honda shadow 750 aero im 17 and its my first bike, now i did ride dirtbikes since i was little, but i can whip that light 750 around now and ive had it for a few months, but when i first got it it felt so heavy
Yep I agree. I learn from watching other people so you are right to put these types of videos up on RUclips. I'm gonna set up some stuff in a vacant parking lot and practice these maneuvers. I use my rear brake as well however after this video I'm gonna try and stop using it for low speed turns. Great advice Jerry. 👍
Very good. They both attained their goals. 💪🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Man I wish I could come take your class, this is awesome. Unfortunately no one in India teaches this stuff so simply.
Thanks a lot for you work! It really helps to improve my riding skill! Everytime I go for a ride, I go practice low speed riding to a parking lot. Btw, that road king spcial looks awesome!
Another great educational video,cheers from down under.
Riders did great very good instructions Gerry thanks for sharing I always take something away from watching your videos thank you have a great day
Thanks 👍
👍Thanks. Great Teaching Tools You and the Riders Provide.
Really appreciate that Boss....subscribed...all the way from Malaysia
Thanks for the sub!
I definitely learned something here. I didn’t realize how little rear brake was actually needed. Guess I need to work on that. Thanks Kerry.
Agree
Rear brake intimacy IS a wonderful tool... BUT it (like any tool in your "pocket") should NEVER serve as a "crutch"... Lots of times it's all about gently dragging just a little to "trim up" where you might get sloppy without... rather than to "rope it in" for control through the whole process.
Yeah, working on familiarizing myself with that one, too... It gets easy over-relying on some things. ;o)
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Nice. Very nice. Loved watching the older guy get the hang of it.
Thanks 👍
Very nice , wish I was in your area so I could take your classes
Outstanding instruction and explanations as usual Sir. So happy I subbed to your channel.
Good to see this video Motorman Thanks
No problem 👍
I'm a come back rider from 12 years ago.. had an 04 King then, gotta an 01 RK now... Wow, how my strength and confidence has deteriated in 12 years... Working to get it all back. gonna have to have some patience
Pete Steen on the cones 👍🏻💯... Git after it, boy.!
Jerry, I just went through the motor officer training with Harley Davidson. There were guys dropping the bikes everyday just like what you show on this video and actually worse. They had motorcycle drop guards installed on all the new harleys we were using to protect them, and there was absolutely no damage to any of the bikes from any of the extreme drops. You should tell this guy about them as they work incredibly well especially the primary lean indicator as they call it.
I tell the whole world about motorcycledropguards.com I've even done 2 youtube videos about them including a demonstration of how well they work in my Ride Like a Pro Experience video AND, I featured Jay, the inventor, in that video as well. As soon as Jay has them back in stock, I'll do another video on them. The fearful rider has them on his 2 other bikes as well. So there! 😉
As always, videos full of useful information and technique. Thank you Jerry!
Thanks for watching!
Id love to make the trip from Washington to Florida just to take the class direct from you guys.. Maybe one day..
Maybe one day!
Valuable video.
Scraping footboards is fun!
You should get a Road Star. Very easy to do on these bikes
@@Skilful_basics8 I have a Yamaha Royal star tour deluxe, I also ride a police Harley at work sometimes.
Great video sir. Getting better on my harley. But actually having a much harder time riding ninja zx6r
One observation - the rider with fear appears to turn to too far after making the turn to large, so to go the other way he needs to turn even further. On entering the first right of the intersection again he's swinging out the opposite way to his left before turning right making his right turn need to be even sharper (like an articulated lorry swinging wide).
Get a tripod for stationary shots and make sure you have a wide enough lens to capture all motion while you instruct. Came across this cause of the Bikes and Beards channel ✅
Thanks for the tip. But my main concern is observing my students perform the exercises so that I can correct their mistakes when need be. Most of the time I'm looking over the camera at the live action not thru the camera. The video's of my class that you see are just a free bonus for youtube watchers. Generally, I have a drone up that captures the full view but not this time since I was teaching this class without my normal crew.
Great riding!
Is it fear? is it just knowing where you place your bike. cut off 4 feet and you're short. use all your space at the beginning of each turn and you will make it. guy doesn't look scared just doesn't put the bike in the right place. Try stopping on a spot without looking at it. know where your bikes front tire is without looking at it. WORKS FOR ME.
I love your videos!! Is there any outlook for you getting into Illinois, maybe near Chicago?
Great video Jerry! 😊
Thanks! 😃
That’s an older bike 08 on down those bikes lean further floorboard. Floorboards will fold up the new frame style you hit the brackets for the floorboards instead of the floorboards. Yeah I got to hang my foot off the side of my floorboard so I know where I’m at. Specially on the twisties. I’ve delivered the rear wheel off the ground was fortunate enough to catch it.
I enjoy the Chanel. I am always trying to improve
My eyes must really be going. When I read that, I saw "the difference between a high rear fender and a low rear fender."
I leaned over once and crashed while cornering.
I don’t like to lean my scooter any longer. I became very fearful of it. And I’m specially cautious when cornering
A two wheeled vehicle turns by leaning. You need to get over that fear as soon as possible or you will crash.
What model is that black Harley? Beautiful bike!
Put a fairing on the Road king. Wonder which fairing he used. I like Roadkings
Sweet road king!
Confidence achieved through practice which increases your skill.
Disadvantage : speeding up because you have the skills and confidence
Check out dandan the fireman. He dose alot of after action reviews
I'm afraid to drop my bike, because it's so pretty!
Seriously, I'd like to take this class.
Then you need to go to ridelikeapro.com and click on motorcycle drop guards. They completely protect your bike from any and all damage in a drop. I've tested them up to a 20 mph slide on the ground and still no damage to the bike!
These videos are really well made and informative. I have a 1200 Harley Sportster. I live on the East coast of Australia so I cannot join your class so I bought the video from your site. I have started trying some of these exercises. The sportster does not have boards to scrape, it has fold up footpegs but I am worrying that if I lean too far I might crash. Have any of your students had the same problem?
If you lean TOO far, you will lever a tire off the ground and you will low side. The Sportster has plenty of warning before that happens. There are feelers on the pegs and the pegs fold a bit. When you here the pegs scrape, simply don't lean any further.
Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
i wonder if the fear comes from dropping a bike they payed out the nose for? Or being physically hurt? I think a lot of these folks could benefit from just riding something fun and inexpensive for a few months. I mean, you're gonna drop your first bike more then once.. dont make your first bike a 30+ grand road king. Go get dirt bike and just ride some trails and dump the hell out of it.
l'm kind of afraid of falling because l already lack a knee ligament from a previous cycling accident.
wanted to provide some feedback on your tutorial videos. One improvement that would really help me (and probably many others) would be to provide the layout info on the cones for your courses. Having the distances in feet so I can re-created these layouts would be very helpful. Id really like to improve my slow turns and handling a bit. The drill team maneuvers are what Id like to work towards...and Im a ways from that...LOL
The practice guide for the exercises is a FREE download right from my website's homepage. I also tell you the dimensions of the exercises in the video as I'm speaking, hope this helps, www.ridelikeapro.com
@@motorman857 thank you..I printed a copy of that practice guide showing the cone placement. I should have hunted around a bit more off the youtube videos...LOL Appreciate it. I know the slow riding is my weakest link on my vtx1800c, and I need to be able to make tighter turn arounds for sure. I can drag pegs around corners at speed on curvy roads sometimes, but NEVER can get close in the tighter spaces.
Looking forward to seeing a Goldwing DCT in your small class like this
I’ve found it to be not much trouble using the rear brake but could be much better I feel
So work with us DCT guys instead of all negative stuff
Here ya go ruclips.net/video/fIyXNsC-XP0/видео.html In addition, I used a Goldwing in every exercise in my latest video, ''The Ride Like a Pro Experience'' available at ridelikeapro.com . The best 20 bucks you'll ever spend on your bike.
I have all your videos including the latest one and yes the Goldwing is on there but there is no specific instruction on how to do it better and more confidently on those videos just comments on how hard it is to do it with the DCT. Maybe you can do some specific instruction on the bike itself explaining how you feel it is the best way to ride the DCT
Sent that last reply before watching the video link you sent me with you riding the DCT. I have seen it before also and you rode it fine through your course but I’m looking for you instructing someone in your class one on one with student on a DCT
@@markdennis1205 Any particular color DCT you'd like to see? 😁. C'mon. There's not much more to it. Head and eyes, and find the sweet spot betweed throttle and rear brake. And it's going to take more practice than finding the sweet spot in the friction zone of a clutch. I won't say it's easier on a DCT, because it's not. If you have a DCT Wing, just get out there and practice until you get it. There are guys on DCT's here on youtube who have done exactly that and gotten pretty good at it.
Yea I know I guess I was looking for the student you would be working with to struggle or improve
I actually am very proud of my progress
Definitely more than two parking spots though but less than three
Yellow bike
I really wish you would narrate how much brake clutch and throttle the person is using through each procedure so that we could visually see it now what you're explaining because you seem to miss that
Wouls you say there was lack of weight shift at fault when the bike lay down at first.
Is it easier on a Harley-Davidson motorcycle that go to a course and it is a Goldwing motorcycle could you give me a answer of
Where can I find a clean empty parking lot like that to practice? The only empty lots I find have loose dirt all over them.
Ok I'll play your silly game. How DO you find empty lots? Personally, I just ride by an empty parking lot and check it out.
@@motorman857 Yes, that's what I've been doing without much luck. The only ones I find empty during the day without loose dirt are schools and churches, which I'm not sure I can use longer than a few minutes at a time. I was just fishing for ideas where to look.
@James Barrett Thanks for the ideas, I'm still looking. Found a couple of small lots, but I need a nice big one so I can mess up without running into a ditch or a tree.
Riders need to learn to trust the rubber (assuming they have good rubber). Both these riders are on bikes that the bike themselves will exceed the traction of the rubber. As long as the bike is moving in these conditions it wont fall over unless you force it to as the rider. Even the rider that the bike went down in. He forced the bike to go down. If he would have followed the bike he would have stayed upright. Instead he fought it.
My father in law is pretty upset with me that I purchased this bike with zero experience other than a Zuma 125. I decided on the Africa Twin DCT (No Clutch) because I’m a big guy and it felt comfortable, however with that comfort I was not expecting the power it had. Long story short, I did what some would call whiskey Throttled into a parked car that had a rack of bikes on the back. I got pretty hurt lots of stitches and a destroyed sense of pride. Very embarrassing.
The bike is reparable. The family wants me to sell the bike and get something smaller like a 500cc, but now that I’ve felt the power of a 1100cc I don’t think I’ll like anything smaller. I’m 6’1 300lbs my father in law that’s been riding for 40 years says it was Irresponsible for the dealership to recommend that bike for me especially coming from a scooter.
He believes I’m playing with fire. That I don’t have the skills associated for that bike.
I’ve put 800miles on the bike, I felt pretty comfortable until that moment.
Am I moron? Should i downgrade?
How about you get some training? Go to ridelikeapro.com and click on other training locations or, for my class, classes with Motorman. P.S., never take advice from people who don't know what they are talking about.
Can you still accomplish this easily without stock bars? I.E. mini apes or any risers.
I have fear to lean more on the right side and its much easier to lean on left, how to win with this fear
The answer is simple. Practice more to the right. Start with 30 ft circles and narrow it down to 20 ft. This assumes you've mastered the friction zone, rear brake, and head and eyes.
And now in English....Would you say lack of weight shift was partially at fault when the bike lay down during the beginning try?
I think he simply leaned a bit too far a levered a tire off the ground.
Does it say Central Florida Drill Team?
Yep
Have you had any students show up with large Ape Hangers? Like 16 inch or higher?
I'd like to see that.
Here ya go ruclips.net/video/ykSt2NoMF44/видео.html and many more ruclips.net/video/yNcaQJBX61E/видео.html
Can u do a video with a longer motorcycle?
ruclips.net/video/ObB7FfReidg/видео.html
hi do you give discounts to repeat clients and i wounder how meany accident your crew has prevented thank you
Ivan...for riders that come back to MY class in Spring Hill Florida within a year, they can repeat the class at half price.
Hey Jerry, I have a native 180 fat front tire on my roadking special. Would that make it turn wider than a regular tire you think?
No. But it will require more effort to turn the bars.
His engine cage got scrapped making the bike fall I guess
I noticed when entering the intersection before dropping the bike he did not dip out then in and hit the cone, I think he failed to recover as his speed and resulting set up to the next cone was weak. And he did fail to keep his head and eyes up and he let gravity take over his eyes and the bike followed where he looked. Am I over analyzing this lesson? Or am I learning from all your lesson?
You're over analyzing.
Is such a slow ride during training dangerous for the engine? The Harley is air-cooled and gets very hot when driving slowly.
No. The engine can Take it but can you?
@@rogercohn balls cooked :)
Police have been doing this type of training on Harley's for 70 years. Only the police course is 10 hours a day for 2 weeks with no problems overheating.
What Bike is the rider with the red shirt riding?
Harley FLHTP
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Jerri… I can only say one thing you are awesome, I wish you lived near me, I live in Oregon and actually you’re lucky you don’t live here this is a liberal communist state At least up north
Awesome! That's exactly what I've been telling my wife for years. Maybe now she'll believe me. 😁
5:23 the dude needs to slow down and not be so darn nervous.
his face said it all, like he just wanted to get it over and down with.
Would some Super Slow Preload Practice help him?
That wasn't fear on his face at 5:23. It was frustration. He knows the 3 techniques, head and eyes, friction zone, and a little pressure on the rear brake. He simply needs to get smoother at putting the techniques together. Excessive pressure on the rear brake won't help.
@@motorman857 Jerry thank you for correcting me, yes frustrated is way more like it.
That's definitely a good time to get off the bike and just regroup.
@@ChillGrk611 Uhhh, it's Jerry.
That is about the only thing you can do with a Harley , slow freaking manouvers for parking lots and downtown driving, get to tje real thing and ride a Goldwing 1800 on a expressway then you will see what mature riding is, this is only kid stuff good for getting put of a parking spot
I dont have a problem on the expressway with my harley.
Slow speed maneuvers are more daunting for many riders than highway riding. It doesn’t feel natural to lean a 900 lb bike like that.
I'd like to see you try these manoeuvres. Any lessons or technique is worth learning. Riding motorcycle is a skill and if you were smart you'd want to learn and improve as much as possible.
That's why I do classes every year whether it's in a parking lot or a track day. But I guess real man like you already knows everything there is to know about riding bikes am I right?
And this "child stuff' might save your life one day you're just too stupid to realize it.
@@EnhancedChimp I love it! Right on David! 😊
Reading between the lines, what you are actually saying is you suck at low speeds and you're afraid to learn technique, so you'll just cruise down the highway because that takes no skill at all, and depend on dumb luck to avoid crashing. That's fine with me. Good luck. You'll need it.