I really enjoy the US navy, specially the light cruiser line. The Atlanta is my favorite I love eating destroyers with it. Iv also noticed a slight uptick in people queuing for naval since the patch , I hope this does not fall off. I think naval in its current state is still really enjoyable at times and a great change in pace from ground forces or air rb. Great video.
Must agree, I bought into naval when it was in beta with the cowell, but then never player nav after a few weeks. Naval hides the flaws of The game because it haven’t been broken by gaijin yet. The RP and SL aren’t nearly as bad as I remember ground and air being. And you for the most part get time to play the match because you don’t get insta killed in air rb by a space climber or sniper cross map on ground. Love naval so far.
The radar provides good warning, but it also drastically improves the gunners leading when you lock on to a plane. It takes the lethal range of the 5 inch guns from about 5km to 8-9km if the aircraft isn't paying attention, and in the case of the Pittsburgh, even the 3 inch guns are lethal out to 6km
I hope that the Scharnhorst will get an ammunition buff or will be lowered in br. This ship is so beautiful. Its very maneuverable, its insanly tanky but those aummunition types are so terrible
@@Napalmratte I know this is a lot of work but please, if possible, can you add a note if a revelant buff/nerf happens. Only for the higher tier vehicles. I think it would be a unique feature for your channel, vehicles change all the time and I see no channel clarifying if old bugs were fixed or vehicles were buffed/nerfed.
The Scharnhorst is still a pain to fight if you are a competent person operating the vehicle which I am not I do better in the heavier slower Battleships but I have friends who slap in that thing
This patch has been great for American light cruisers, especially the Cleveland, which may be the most powerful cruiser in the game right now due to the 5.7 BR.
I have only very recently unlocked the Alaska, but so far I have found it to be very capable. It plays very similarly to the Pittsburgh that precedes it, which I found to be very capable of dealing with the Helena spam personally. The ap made good work of the forward ammo stowage, and did decent damage in the citadel. The antifrag on American cruisers neuters he, so I didn’t find much success with he against them with the exception of 6in base fuse. On that note, he damage really needs to be reigned in to a similar level on all ships as against current antifrag, but as that would give a more reasonable portrayal of the Soviet navy I don’t see that happening. But I digress. After getting fire protection I have found Alaska very enjoyable. It has an unenviable tendency to attract the entire enemy teams fire at match start, so without it you are almost guaranteed to die by eventual magazine explosion. After that point, I have found it’s armor to be reasonable, but the crew distribution lets it down somewhat. The aa is capable, and the 5/38s are still wonderful, however they have a tendency to overshoot the enemy when firing at an appropriate lead to hit with the 12/50s, at least in my experience. However, when all guns are hitting you make quick work of most cruisers and any ship with casemates. So far I would say the ship is a solid 8/10. It is capable in most any situation it finds itself without being overpowered. It doesn’t break the meta like Scharnhorst on release or current Kronshtadt, but is a vast improvement over any current USN BB, and hopefully a herald of good things to come. It is in my opinion exactly the type of addition naval should be getting, it freshens the meta without any egregious power creep. If they can keep themselves to these sort of additions for a few patches, and rebalance HE vs AP damage mechanics, then I think naval would be in a very good spot and perhaps attract more players who aren’t running bot scripts. Overall good ship, and great video.
USS Texas in her 1945 configuration would make a great premium as long as there is a late war Pennsylvania or New Mexico class addition to the main tech tree
I have a feeling once naval starts to get really fleshed out with late-war Battleships, the U.S. and Japan are going to dominate every top tier game, with maybe Britain offering some resistance. Japan with its super battleships and the U.S. with it's Iowa-class BBs. I can't wait to see Iowa's AA batteries. FORTY quad 40mm bofors sounds nasty as fuck.
Now I want to see a scenario where a bunch of US Latewar ships have to fend off a bunch of Japanese planes. Like 1 Alaska, 2 Baltis, 4 Cleveland’s, 8 Alan M Sumners vs 100 enemy planes
Good to hear that Alaska’s actually good to play! Gaijin seems to have actually done something right here and I’m hopeful that means that when they eventually add fast battleships they’ll also be a lot of fun
Hey I like ur videos, they really helped me out. It would be cool to know how the new changes in naval affect gameplay, is he still the best shell in 7.0?
SMS Elbing seems surprisingly fun BTW. Also, being someone who plays WT on-off with months between, it seems like torpedoes are rather gimped these days, which may perhaps be more realistic looking at historical results, but it makes them even less practical as well.
@@mafia7787 yes, and it hit a US Destroyer's magazine, made it go boom, and it still didn't die. Hit an Eugen with 4 torps, and it said "lol whatevs", hit another almost dead destroyer with a torp and had to finish it off with gunfire anyway, hit an Omaha class cruiser and Helena both in magazine areas, they merrily sailed on. Also I myself survived many torpedo hits. In Elbing for example, I got it happen twice where a torpedo boat snuck up on me, and it doesn't really have the best weaponry to deal with that up close. In one of those cases I ate one torpedo, which didn't do anything, and torpedo boat killed me with point blank series of depth charge. In the other case I ate both torps, didn't care, killed the torpedo boat a few minutes later whi was still sailing by my side, trying to ineffectually machine gun me, and even survived the match I think. But I also had cases where a single torpedo killed my target or myself.
@@ErdenizS lol, I was in a heavy cruiser (Pensacola) I think, and sitting among some islands, when I notice that a PT had snuck up on me and loosed its 4 torpedoes. I was like "well damn, I'm dead", but nope. All 4 impacted, it took out like 15% of my crew and I flooded kind of bad, but I was able to repair the damage quickly and survived. They really have nerfed the torps.
Alaska gets HE detonated more than any other ship that I have played in game, everytime I start getting spammed by a helena I just say a prayer and know whats coming
Gaijin needs to make Naval a Historical / year based system rather than BR, because a Dreadnaught from 1915's going up against thing's like the Alaska is just a joke. -_- The only balance for the Alaska is it is a Large Cruiser really not a BC, hence the armour being a bit junk, but it is like that bully with long arms hitting the small kid holding them back so they can't hit back
A 1915 dreadnaught can absolutely compete with the Alaska just thanks to the massive guns of the dreadnaughts. An Arizona with good aim will slap the shit out of an Alaska
Most battleship used by country like england and japan during ww2 are ww1 era Dreadnought with heavy modernization, so they will go fighting against late war era battleship anyways
Would you say that talismaning or getting the ace qualification would be worth it? Or should I just grind out the mods unaided? I do love the Baltimore and you said you will love Alaska if you also like Baltimore or Pittsburgh
You can get parts and probably FPE before free repairs run out and after that its not a bad grind. I put a talisman on it because I'll use it to grind out whatever the US gets next. Its definitely no Kronshtadt but it's good.
This makes me wanna play Naval, But I have no idea what I'm doing and just feel like all those idiots who fly around in F-5C's and wonder why am I dying to F-14's and MiG-23's so much. Also the grind is annoying (more than usual) aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the que times are utterly ridicules. and the AI don't seem to give much if any reward for anything.
Tbh it's a good time to try navel. Maybe try arcade to learn it alittle but in realistic you get a lot of bots (scripts) so can learn to play against them
Still laugh bitterly whenever I hear the name Kronshtadt.... the way the ships NEVER EVEN EXISTED IRL really bothers me when I think of how Maus was removed "because no real versions were made"... even tho the only Kronshtadts had NOTHING on them built except the keels were laid... other than that, they were abandoned when the Germans overran the shipyard, and were not retaken until MUCH later and by then the keels were scrapped for how horribly obsolete they were.
The Kronstadt was fully designed and partially built gaijin has said that years ago that is good enough for ships (I don’t see you bitching about the r2y2s or ho ri production which were never even started and the production didn’t even exist)
@@justyourdad4469 And yet this ship that was never built beyond a keel is miraculously the greatest thing on the seas and its guns that quite literally never existed are railguns that outperform those used by navies that weren't literally a joke. It's not a coincidence that "good enough for ships" disproportionately benefits the USSR tree.
well I think gaijin like to destroy warthunder. now whit drones the mixed battles will be even more mixed. *I refuse to call ground battles for ground battles anymore cause the ground after 1 min of gameplay is often 2 tanks and the rest is planes and choppers* i even have stopped playing warthunder for a while
The problem is light tanks make all that possible. They have the best mobility, shells, survivability and options to get SP via scouting early capping etc. Set a spawntimer like in EC for them that they can only be spawned after 5 min or simply block the ability that if your first spawn is a LT you cant spawn a plane afterwards or nuke as LT´s are far too easy to play in this game. At the start of a match look at the statistics screen how many light tanks spawn and then wait how many planes spawn afterwards. Not to forget that the good cas planes and helis are most often with the trees with the most cancerous light tanks.
@@venusflytrap2622 it does but my point is it does'nt matter now cause I never see a single match that have more then 20% tanks after 2 min of gameplay it's only OP russian ka-50 or high level bomb planes on both teams. the capture thing in warthunder is kind of out dated because people honestly want to lose more then win in this game. so my wish is that gaijin either take away all the flags and start whit a all.vs.all kind of game or actually fix the teamwork gameplay
@@creforce I find the standard battle matches work best because each team having their own cap seems to make teams play a little more defensively. totally agree that cas is way too easy to spawn and perhaps should have higher spawn cost. perhaps 900sp for something useful and to stop 1 cap and a kill allowing you to spawn fully loaded cas
using planes in higher BR naval battles is pointless 99.9% of the time u die before even dropping a bomb not to mention you hardly ever reach close to the ship, usually i got my wing ripped off by a 20mm bullet snipe from 3km's
or your bomb does nothing. -_- Dropped a 1000kg bomb on a Frigate landed on it's bow gunner, exploded and just set a fire and damaged the gun..... perfectly working as indented
You know way you don't fight havy crusers, because all of the German ones are 5.7 . And its really getting old complaining about the Soviets constantly
1) even at 6.0 or lower I hardly see any heavy cruisers 2) the soviets still having those BS fantay shells & performance after all this time is getting old and boring tbh
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I really enjoy the US navy, specially the light cruiser line. The Atlanta is my favorite I love eating destroyers with it. Iv also noticed a slight uptick in people queuing for naval since the patch , I hope this does not fall off. I think naval in its current state is still really enjoyable at times and a great change in pace from ground forces or air rb. Great video.
US navy and Japanese navy are insanely fun
Must agree, I bought into naval when it was in beta with the cowell, but then never player nav after a few weeks. Naval hides the flaws of
The game because it haven’t been broken by gaijin yet. The RP and SL aren’t nearly as bad as I remember ground and air being. And you for the most part get time to play the match because you don’t get insta killed in air rb by a space climber or sniper cross map on ground. Love naval so far.
I'm enjoying Naval very highly. I do hope that the Alaska doesn't take me TOO long though
@@This_Pleases_The_Nutit won’t just put a talisman on Nevada and you’ll get 20k a game
@@captainc9977 Sounds like a good tip, I just began playing Naval last Tuesday and I'm already researching the Northampton due to college.
The radar provides good warning, but it also drastically improves the gunners leading when you lock on to a plane. It takes the lethal range of the 5 inch guns from about 5km to 8-9km if the aircraft isn't paying attention, and in the case of the Pittsburgh, even the 3 inch guns are lethal out to 6km
I hope that the Scharnhorst will get an ammunition buff or will be lowered in br. This ship is so beautiful. Its very maneuverable, its insanly tanky but those aummunition types are so terrible
AP has been buffed
@@Napalmratte I checked the changelog but saw no reference to the Scharnhorst AP having been buffed. Will you please clarify?
@@motopanza the AP does more damage since the last vid in it. A Change in the last update I think
@@Napalmratte I know this is a lot of work but please, if possible, can you add a note if a revelant buff/nerf happens. Only for the higher tier vehicles.
I think it would be a unique feature for your channel, vehicles change all the time and I see no channel clarifying if old bugs were fixed or vehicles were buffed/nerfed.
The Scharnhorst is still a pain to fight if you are a competent person operating the vehicle which I am not I do better in the heavier slower Battleships but I have friends who slap in that thing
BTW Arizona reload got buffed this update
This patch has been great for American light cruisers, especially the Cleveland, which may be the most powerful cruiser in the game right now due to the 5.7 BR.
I have only very recently unlocked the Alaska, but so far I have found it to be very capable. It plays very similarly to the Pittsburgh that precedes it, which I found to be very capable of dealing with the Helena spam personally. The ap made good work of the forward ammo stowage, and did decent damage in the citadel. The antifrag on American cruisers neuters he, so I didn’t find much success with he against them with the exception of 6in base fuse. On that note, he damage really needs to be reigned in to a similar level on all ships as against current antifrag, but as that would give a more reasonable portrayal of the Soviet navy I don’t see that happening. But I digress. After getting fire protection I have found Alaska very enjoyable. It has an unenviable tendency to attract the entire enemy teams fire at match start, so without it you are almost guaranteed to die by eventual magazine explosion. After that point, I have found it’s armor to be reasonable, but the crew distribution lets it down somewhat. The aa is capable, and the 5/38s are still wonderful, however they have a tendency to overshoot the enemy when firing at an appropriate lead to hit with the 12/50s, at least in my experience. However, when all guns are hitting you make quick work of most cruisers and any ship with casemates. So far I would say the ship is a solid 8/10. It is capable in most any situation it finds itself without being overpowered. It doesn’t break the meta like Scharnhorst on release or current Kronshtadt, but is a vast improvement over any current USN BB, and hopefully a herald of good things to come. It is in my opinion exactly the type of addition naval should be getting, it freshens the meta without any egregious power creep. If they can keep themselves to these sort of additions for a few patches, and rebalance HE vs AP damage mechanics, then I think naval would be in a very good spot and perhaps attract more players who aren’t running bot scripts. Overall good ship, and great video.
Still waiting for Gaijin to add the USS Texas. I'm sure she'd be a fine addition
USS Texas in her 1945 configuration would make a great premium as long as there is a late war Pennsylvania or New Mexico class addition to the main tech tree
@@williamgandarillas2185 her 1945 refit AA guns are armed to teeth😬
And we got her yesterday 🥹🩷
We have her now kiddo
I have a feeling once naval starts to get really fleshed out with late-war Battleships, the U.S. and Japan are going to dominate every top tier game, with maybe Britain offering some resistance. Japan with its super battleships and the U.S. with it's Iowa-class BBs. I can't wait to see Iowa's AA batteries. FORTY quad 40mm bofors sounds nasty as fuck.
Now I want to see a scenario where a bunch of US Latewar ships have to fend off a bunch of Japanese planes. Like 1 Alaska, 2 Baltis, 4 Cleveland’s, 8 Alan M Sumners vs 100 enemy planes
Pretty sure they'll put an imaginary russian BB with autoloading main guns and ASMs just to "balance" things against an Iowa.
"The [insert American bluewater ship] is quite good." I've been waiting to hear those words since the Helena.
I've been waiting for this video for a long time and am looking forward to your full review of this ship.
we need some more of these cool ships
your welcome for the content
I apprechiate the Humor 🥳
Good to hear that Alaska’s actually good to play! Gaijin seems to have actually done something right here and I’m hopeful that means that when they eventually add fast battleships they’ll also be a lot of fun
Hey I like ur videos, they really helped me out. It would be cool to know how the new changes in naval affect gameplay, is he still the best shell in 7.0?
SMS Elbing seems surprisingly fun BTW. Also, being someone who plays WT on-off with months between, it seems like torpedoes are rather gimped these days, which may perhaps be more realistic looking at historical results, but it makes them even less practical as well.
this is very true, ive been going around in my PT-109 to sneaky torp battleships, i hit a bayern with 4 of the 533mm torps and it did nothing :(
Did you guys set your toprs depth to 4? and you have to go for the ammorack area
@@mafia7787 yes, and it hit a US Destroyer's magazine, made it go boom, and it still didn't die. Hit an Eugen with 4 torps, and it said "lol whatevs", hit another almost dead destroyer with a torp and had to finish it off with gunfire anyway, hit an Omaha class cruiser and Helena both in magazine areas, they merrily sailed on. Also I myself survived many torpedo hits. In Elbing for example, I got it happen twice where a torpedo boat snuck up on me, and it doesn't really have the best weaponry to deal with that up close. In one of those cases I ate one torpedo, which didn't do anything, and torpedo boat killed me with point blank series of depth charge. In the other case I ate both torps, didn't care, killed the torpedo boat a few minutes later whi was still sailing by my side, trying to ineffectually machine gun me, and even survived the match I think.
But I also had cases where a single torpedo killed my target or myself.
@@mafia7787 oh, uhhhhh I might be a retard I never knew that was a thing
@@ErdenizS lol, I was in a heavy cruiser (Pensacola) I think, and sitting among some islands, when I notice that a PT had snuck up on me and loosed its 4 torpedoes. I was like "well damn, I'm dead", but nope. All 4 impacted, it took out like 15% of my crew and I flooded kind of bad, but I was able to repair the damage quickly and survived. They really have nerfed the torps.
Alaska gets HE detonated more than any other ship that I have played in game, everytime I start getting spammed by a helena I just say a prayer and know whats coming
Gaijin needs to make Naval a Historical / year based system rather than BR, because a Dreadnaught from 1915's going up against thing's like the Alaska is just a joke. -_-
The only balance for the Alaska is it is a Large Cruiser really not a BC, hence the armour being a bit junk, but it is like that bully with long arms hitting the small kid holding them back so they can't hit back
That won't really work much like historical tank match making won't
@@johnathanburke4872 Why won't it work? all good saying nah wont work but can you explain why?
A 1915 dreadnaught can absolutely compete with the Alaska just thanks to the massive guns of the dreadnaughts. An Arizona with good aim will slap the shit out of an Alaska
Most battleship used by country like england and japan during ww2 are ww1 era Dreadnought with heavy modernization, so they will go fighting against late war era battleship anyways
Arizonas reload was reduced to 40 seconds btw
what are the settings that show you what each of your shell volleys are destroying?
Uhm default afaik. New hit cam with the update.
So ein schönes Schiff. Also das aussehen haut mich jedes mal um.
im grinding uss gearing finally i cant wait to get the later heavy cruisers
"Thinking about how Naval forces is busted at the moment anyway..." When hasn't Naval forces been busted???
Would you say that talismaning or getting the ace qualification would be worth it? Or should I just grind out the mods unaided? I do love the Baltimore and you said you will love Alaska if you also like Baltimore or Pittsburgh
You can get parts and probably FPE before free repairs run out and after that its not a bad grind. I put a talisman on it because I'll use it to grind out whatever the US gets next. Its definitely no Kronshtadt but it's good.
The brought back OG hanger music?!?
This makes me wanna play Naval, But I have no idea what I'm doing and just feel like all those idiots who fly around in F-5C's and wonder why am I dying to F-14's and MiG-23's so much.
Also the grind is annoying (more than usual) aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the que times are utterly ridicules. and the AI don't seem to give much if any reward for anything.
Tbh it's a good time to try navel. Maybe try arcade to learn it alittle but in realistic you get a lot of bots (scripts) so can learn to play against them
with those repair costs I would be salty too but then again I dont use chat for my sanity
Still laugh bitterly whenever I hear the name Kronshtadt.... the way the ships NEVER EVEN EXISTED IRL really bothers me when I think of how Maus was removed "because no real versions were made"... even tho the only Kronshtadts had NOTHING on them built except the keels were laid... other than that, they were abandoned when the Germans overran the shipyard, and were not retaken until MUCH later and by then the keels were scrapped for how horribly obsolete they were.
The reason Gaijin removed the Maus is because it's so difficult to balance.
Again, maus was NOT removed for being a never-built tank. It was removed for balance problem(according to gaijin).
The Kronstadt was fully designed and partially built gaijin has said that years ago that is good enough for ships (I don’t see you bitching about the r2y2s or ho ri production which were never even started and the production didn’t even exist)
@@justyourdad4469 And yet this ship that was never built beyond a keel is miraculously the greatest thing on the seas and its guns that quite literally never existed are railguns that outperform those used by navies that weren't literally a joke.
It's not a coincidence that "good enough for ships" disproportionately benefits the USSR tree.
@@ZeroZeroSection Stalingrad class will have even better guns, but don't worry comrade those guns were built and tested! xaxaxa
well I think gaijin like to destroy warthunder.
now whit drones the mixed battles will be even more mixed. *I refuse to call ground battles for ground battles anymore cause the ground after 1 min of gameplay is often 2 tanks and the rest is planes and choppers*
i even have stopped playing warthunder for a while
The problem is light tanks make all that possible. They have the best mobility, shells, survivability and options to get SP via scouting early capping etc. Set a spawntimer like in EC for them that they can only be spawned after 5 min or simply block the ability that if your first spawn is a LT you cant spawn a plane afterwards or nuke as LT´s are far too easy to play in this game. At the start of a match look at the statistics screen how many light tanks spawn and then wait how many planes spawn afterwards. Not to forget that the good cas planes and helis are most often with the trees with the most cancerous light tanks.
@@venusflytrap2622 it does but my point is it does'nt matter now cause I never see a single match that have more then 20% tanks after 2 min of gameplay it's only OP russian ka-50 or high level bomb planes on both teams.
the capture thing in warthunder is kind of out dated because people honestly want to lose more then win in this game.
so my wish is that gaijin either take away all the flags and start whit a all.vs.all kind of game or actually fix the teamwork gameplay
@@creforce I find the standard battle matches work best because each team having their own cap seems to make teams play a little more defensively. totally agree that cas is way too easy to spawn and perhaps should have higher spawn cost. perhaps 900sp for something useful and to stop 1 cap and a kill allowing you to spawn fully loaded cas
@@motopanza totally agreed
OMFG stardust on his way to be salty for Literally 0 reason kek
that cant be me at all
@@kongoclass1481 this man is correct
You sound pretty much like Christoph Waltz
Oh, thx I guess
Is your decal in the game?
I don't have a decal
That is a shame. Giajin needs to fix that. Best decal of all the content creators I watch.
Nah bro…i killed the Alaska by detonated his magazine using Sverdlov’s HE, i got the screenshot 😂
yes, 6 inch HE is OP. Ammo racked a bow in Scharnhorst with HE from HELLena
Baby Iowa go boom boom
You’re welcome for the content lol! Also, if you’re gonna make a spotlight on me, you should mention that I was beating focused by 4 other ships.
Jesus Loves You
using planes in higher BR naval battles is pointless 99.9% of the time u die before even dropping a bomb not to mention you hardly ever reach close to the ship, usually i got my wing ripped off by a 20mm bullet snipe from 3km's
or your bomb does nothing. -_- Dropped a 1000kg bomb on a Frigate landed on it's bow gunner, exploded and just set a fire and damaged the gun..... perfectly working as indented
Got to drop your bombs beside the ships so they blow up the ammo guys under the waterline
This ship is made out of glass now.
Guess the alaska is no longer the flavor of the month.
Go back to the arizona and Live.
The IJN Mikuma is Trash needs a Buff!
Mikuma is good though
the fact you are using HE is painful
... for the enemies for sure
No, it’s not. I was averaging 10k last night with solely HE. The maps aren’t big enough for super heavy AP shells to work properly.
You know way you don't fight havy crusers, because all of the German ones are 5.7 . And its really getting old complaining about the Soviets constantly
1) even at 6.0 or lower I hardly see any heavy cruisers
2) the soviets still having those BS fantay shells & performance after all this time is getting old and boring tbh