Oakland Athletics owner John Fisher says he has NO PLANS to sell the team

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @CottonEyedBro
    @CottonEyedBro Год назад +27

    His interview with NBC Bay Area’s Raj Mathai was equally as bad.

  • @brentduanefoster
    @brentduanefoster Год назад +11

    All that interview did was solidify how much of a HORRIBLE owner Fisher. He doesn't have the capital to build a new stadium, and Vegas are the only willing saps to give them the money they want.

    • @deanwille8130
      @deanwille8130 Год назад +4

      Vegas has two of the worst owners in sports! Mark Davis and John Fisher

  • @Lush_Rimbaugh
    @Lush_Rimbaugh Год назад +12

    Didn't Forbes list the A's as the 5th most profitable team last year?

    • @atrain132
      @atrain132 Год назад

      Yep, they sure did!

    • @thomasjoseph3488
      @thomasjoseph3488 Год назад

      If the financials are not public, how can that be confirmed?

    • @Lush_Rimbaugh
      @Lush_Rimbaugh Год назад

      @@thomasjoseph3488 Methodology: Forbes’ team values are enterprise values (equity plus net debt) based on historical transactions and the future economics of the sport and each team. Revenue and operating income (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) are for the 2022 season and are net of revenue sharing, competitive balance taxes and stadium revenue used for debt service. Our figures also include revenue and expenses from non-MLB events at the stadium that go to team owners, include spring training games and the revenue and expenses for team-owned minor league teams. We excluded the $900 million Walt DisneyDIS -3.9% paid to MLB in 2022 for the final 15% of BamTech that will be dispersed to its 30 teams because gains or losses from asset sales are non-recurring. Ownership stakes in regional sports networks, as well as related profits or losses, are excluded from our valuations and operating results, as are investments in real estate and other businesses. (For our all-inclusive sports ownership valuations, see our annual Sports Empires ranking.) Sources include sports bankers, team and league executives, public documents like leases and filings related to public bonds, and media rights experts.

  • @GregAlterton
    @GregAlterton Год назад +4

    I became an A's fan in 1968 when the A's moved to Oakland. I attended my first A's game in 1969 when I was a senior in high school. I'm 71 years old, and for most of my life I've been a committed fan of the A's, enjoying the heights of success, and the depths of low points, but I've remained a fan through it all. I've held out hope for the A's staying in Oakland because this cr@p show of relocating to Las Vegas initially had a feel that Fisher and Kaval were going to fumble the ball, and they'd have to go slinking back to Oakland; which itself would likely lead to Fisher selling the team to someone who actually cares. But at this point, despite being an A's fan for 55 years, I don't want the A's back in Oakland if John Fisher is the owner.
    For me and every A's fan out there, the best thing that could happen is for MLB owners to reject Fisher's relocation application, tell him that if he wants a fresh start he can have an expansion franchise in Las Vegas, force him to sell the A's, and allow someone who knows how to succeed and who is committed to the A's in Oakland to come in, restart the plans for Howard Terminal (remember, Fisher has already paid for all the preliminary work like the Environmental Impart Report, detailed renderings of the ball park, getting the Howard Terminal area to be redesignated by the Bay Conservation and Development Commission as something other than part of the Port of Oakland, turning back all legal challenges) take all the work that has been done, throw in the over $400 million the City of Oakland has secured from the state and the feds for infrastructure improvements, and get the project done and keep the A's in Oakland. But, again, if the deal which brings the A's back to Oakland is that Fisher gets to remain the owner, no thanks. They can do their thing in the desert for all I care.

    • @hoapres
      @hoapres Год назад

      Fisher is NOT selling the team. MLB will APPROVE the move to Vegas. AND The A's are MOVING to Vegas.

  • @jamesgonzalez6548
    @jamesgonzalez6548 Год назад +3

    Is that the interview where he said the new stadium would be closed roof? After asking for public funds for a revolutionary 9 acre retractable roof stadium and the b.s. renderings. Vegas meet Mr. Fisher, never trust a word he says.

  • @generalg.cameron1617
    @generalg.cameron1617 Год назад +4

    Mark davis dont want the A's in vegas cause they screwd it up for the raiders to stay in oakland

  • @bmack87
    @bmack87 Год назад +3

    You're wrong on the A's not receiving revenue sharing this year. The entire rush of the Vegas deal is because they would be cut off from revenue sharing if they did not have a deal in place for a new stadium by Jan 1, 2024. Not watching the rest of your clip if that easily verifiable fact was lost upon you.

  • @ThunderDogY2K3
    @ThunderDogY2K3 Год назад

    There once was an owner of the Montreal Expos, his stepson helped run the team, do you know who they were? oh, and that team is no longer in Montreal, the same owner and his stepson ran the team in Miami, robbed the city to have a stadium built then cut bait, do you know who they were?

  • @ryanmunoz5479
    @ryanmunoz5479 Год назад

    David you mention operations from the general fund. Does that amount include “parallel paths” exploration into Las Vegas, and the cost of lobbying and having Nevada analysts with an EIR report from the port of Oakland? So Fisher spent on the process and not on either stadium or players on the field, Fisher made the process the product (Dave Kaval says that all the time)

  • @ryan4627
    @ryan4627 Год назад

    I think the interview on ABC 7 was the first time I have ever heard fisher's voice during his 18 years of ownership.

  • @bartphlegar8212
    @bartphlegar8212 Год назад +3

    I wrote on Casey Pratt's channel (ABC 7 Bay Area) that I am going to stop making fun of John Fisher, and stop mangling his name, because (especially after this) I highly suspect that the man has a mental illness. I'm not a doctor, so I won't speculate, much less diagnose what John Fisher may be suffering from, but his grasp of the intricate details of his sports operations - let alone the A's relo mess - is tenuous at best. He waxes almost childlike saying how he loves baseball, but maybe even likes having hot dogs at the games even more than the game itself. He basically copped to not having enough money by saying that his "family" and investment banks would be involved in the Vegas stadium build and relo - which essentially makes this a 100%+ speculative move. And he mentions nothing about investing in heavy hitter free agents to help the team ascend, but reiterates (I paraphrase) that the A's will continue growing players from within the system to be competitive in the future. Sound familiar?...Let me say that the R-J is a gossip rag. Has been for decades, but got way worse after Sheldon Adelson bought them and turned it into a political bullhorn. Journalism doesn't exist there, so yeah I rather imagine the entire interview was a "Rah, rah!" cheerleader piece for moving the team - when what a real newspaper should have been doing is vetting the facts, a la Nevada Independent...This interview should be a very loud wake-up call for MLB. They need to get out in front of this for once, and orchestrate an intervention. The NFL did it with Snyder and Bowlen, the NBA did it with Sterling. The NHL has effectlvely stepped in on the Coyotes. The A's are going to need serious rehabilitation as it is. I have argued that maybe MLB staggers the expansion process by offering Hughes the expansion rights for Las Vegas, moving the Aviators up (the stadium funding is already in place, and they can afford a Truist type venture), take the A's out of circulation until a new owner can be found, Howard Terminal gets resolved, or even built - after which the A's can be put back into circulation once they are redomiciled, and the eastern expansion team - presumably Nashville - is ready to enter the league. That leaves them with just one more problem to solve in Tampa. Everybody is happy. No more lawsuits. No more RICO. No more anti-trust threats. MLB gets another team in the Southeast. Vegas gets an expansion team that is financially healthy, and ready to be competitive. A's fans keep their team. And since the Rays are undoubtedly staying in Florida, the storm passes. But I fear that Baseball will NOT do anything of this nature because it makes too much sense. They seem to love creating drama and chaos. The small market teams stay in turmoil, while the legacy teams thrive, picking up their scraps for pennies on the dollar...Thanks David for being the adult in the MLB room...

    • @GregAlterton
      @GregAlterton Год назад

      Your suggestion makes too much sense. I hope MLB goes that way, but I've neither seen or heard anything from Manfred to indicate that this relocation isn't rigged and that the vote to allow it won't be anything but a slam dunk. The one thing that makes me think the A's are going to Vegas is that now there are a number of other owners looking at relocating, figuring that if the A's, of all organizations, can sweep into a new state and city and collect a promise from the state for nearly $400 million of public funding, the other owners are now looking for similar suckers who would be willing to dedicate nearly half a billion dollars in their proposed moves. The A's management, despite their bumbling through the legislative process and the early vision for a stadium, have created a precedent that other MLB owners will want to pursue themselves.

  • @j-2-532
    @j-2-532 Год назад +1

    That nonsense about MLB working out the interim site is actually in character; he just figures someone else will take care of it for him.

  • @williammoran8889
    @williammoran8889 Год назад +3

    So you pretty much left us up in the air here. Is it now your position that the A's are moving to
    Vegas come hell or high water?

  • @EricHeinze-uh9nn
    @EricHeinze-uh9nn Год назад +1

    We all know that the MLB is going to approve it. No way they’d let it get this far if they weren’t going to approve it. My question is why let it drag on so long? What is the benefit to that? Just let everyone move on with their lives. Manfred said it was a rigorous process and we know that was a bs statement.

  • @chrisweidner4768
    @chrisweidner4768 Год назад

    Of course Fischer isn’t making a profit. He has yacht, private jet, mansion payments etc. etc.

  • @deanwille8130
    @deanwille8130 Год назад +7

    I wonder what Fisher would do if he is voted No to Vegas. Would he sell or try to move to another city

    • @bartphlegar8212
      @bartphlegar8212 Год назад +1

      The A's explicitly said during the Nevada legislative hearings that if they did not get their money, they would keep shopping around. If MLB disapproves, they can't go anywhere. So essentially you have the Baseball equivalent of a bum out there looking for a new sugar mama...

    • @deanwille8130
      @deanwille8130 Год назад

      @@bartphlegar8212 That’s why I think MLB wants Fisher owned A’s out of Bay Area not baseball. I would focus on expansion. Get a very impressive deep pocketed group to bid on team

    • @bartphlegar8212
      @bartphlegar8212 Год назад

      @@deanwille8130 Oakland won't get an expansion team. The city and residents of the East Bay have not demonstrated the proper amount of fealty that MLB considers appropriate. They've fought the A's move, staged boycotts, reverse boycotts, challenged not only A's but MLB's management, and very effectively embarrassed Baseball, exposing Manfred as a shill. I'm afraid it's the A's or bust for Oakland. Once the team leaves, Oakland will join Montreal in the dustbin of cities that will never get new teams - all for having the temerity to actually fight for their teams and show how great a fan base they are. They just aren't docile enough, or willing to build or publically fund garish temples as tribute to the baseball gods...Besides why would a city and region fund a billion and a half dollar expansion fee - starting all over again - when they already had a team stolen from them? And California as a whole has historically taken issue with extortion attempts on the public. The first iteration LA Rams, the Chargers, and the Raiders all provide evidence of that. Oakland will slam the door shut and lock it. Then take the BART to the Giants games...

    • @splashnskillz37
      @splashnskillz37 Год назад

      @@deanwille8130 Unlike you, the MLB criminal empire does not have common sense

    • @deanwille8130
      @deanwille8130 Год назад

      @@splashnskillz37 I think the more they act like this, more people will stop supporting baseball

  • @ZZSmithReal
    @ZZSmithReal Год назад

    I have no doubt believing that Fisher is losing money on the A's operations. There's no possible way that a MLB team could be profitable with what he did to demolish attendance. But the fact that he needs or wants a "new start" is precisely the problem. John Fisher clearly does not have the money to own and operate an MLB team. He does not have sufficient personal wealth to invest in the club to move the team forward and/or sustain losses long term. More than likely, he does not have sufficient personal wealth to get HT built. Aren't the A's already leveraged for the 5 year loan he got from US Bank in 2020? Shouldn't his ownership of the A's come to an end like the Wilpons? Didn't the Bernie Madoff business put the Wilpons in a debt position from which they could not ultimately recover forcing them to cash out? Granted, Bud Selig tried to keep his friend Fred from having to sell - even to the point of MLB covering the Mets' payroll - but it wound up there anyway, right? You're super connected. Why isn't MLB saying enough of this, you have to sell. Sorry. Go cash out, sell to a multi-billionaire or group of 'em, hopefully local, who can finish off a stadium deal. We want this done so we can move on to our expansion teams. For the life of me I can't understand why MLB is not doing that. Any insights on that?

    • @santiagoandujar2518
      @santiagoandujar2518 Год назад

      We've had the 2 worse leaders of MLB ( I will not address them by the proper title, as they didn't earn it) Selig and "Manfraud" Manfred

  • @PAC21s
    @PAC21s Год назад +1

    You say John looked at all the revenues and losses and came up with that $40 million and it must be true, but these figures aren't public. You are just taking what he says at face value. You look at all of his other statements and claim they are "excrement", but are willing to believe he is losing as much as he says. Looking down on people who are looking at all the available data and discounting them as "mathematicians" is ridiculous. Of course there are extra expenses that the public doesn't see but that doesn't mean he is in the red as much as says. They have some of the lowest expenses out of any MLB team and this has been a trend for years. They should be losing money they are disregarding their current fanbase that have been there longer than he has while also having one of the worst seasons in baseball history. Everything Fisher says is filled with empty promises and shows he has no care for the history and legacy of the A's. He wants to be a big market sports owner but has done nothing to show he deserves this position. He sees dollar signs and is following their trail, but there is no guarantee baseball will be successful in Vegas. Though Vegas has a big baseball culture with travel ball teams it also has one of the lowest tv markets in the country. We have baseball in the desert in AZ and they have not proven they are living up to the expectations of a big market team, as AZ has a huge baseball culture partly stemming from it holding spring training. People will travel to Vegas to see Raider games as they are few and far between but no one is going to be traveling to Vegas just to see baseball for 162 games. They are leaving the Bay Area which has a way bigger market than Nevada and has proven that fans appreciate good baseball there. Fisher claims that all they needed to keep good players was a better stadium. Oakland stadium is run down but local fans don't care they only care about the on-field product something he has consistently failed to uphold his side of the bargain. Through in through John is cheap, Moneyball is a prefect example of an owner nickel and dimming their team. For god sakes it was played as a comedic moment but Oakland was notorious for being cheap when he was the owner forcing players to even pay for sodas out of the vending machine. He is terrible for baseball and has tanked a historic franchise. He has no accountability and him saying he needs a better opportunity to even do the bare minimum is ridiculous. There were legends in Oakland before he became the owner, he obviously doesn't appreciate the team and the opportunity he has. He's a spoiled boy who wants his family to buy him the nicest toys while putting in no work himself. He even says himself growing up he rarely played baseball and enjoyed the snacks at the game more than the game itself. Now he wants to claim baseball is in his blood? Though and through he is a greedy owner who cares so little about the fans he represents. As customers for his business he is destroying his well established market. Most diehard A's fans are so heartbroken about what is happening I don't see them caring or continuing to be fans after they move. It doesn't matter what excuses he gives he is the sole reason baseball in Oakland is dying. SELL THE TEAM!

    • @togoandmoss
      @togoandmoss Год назад

      TLDR - he said he is NOT SELLING.....

  • @damiant.mccalman8123
    @damiant.mccalman8123 Год назад

    If you can see through all the nonsense why wouldn't the owners who are voting on the relocating? Fisher has to know they they too will hear and scrutinize everything he is saying.

    • @EricHeinze-uh9nn
      @EricHeinze-uh9nn Год назад +1

      They couldn’t care less. It wouldn’t get this far just for the owners do reject it. That makes no sense and would confirm to the world that they are bumbling fools from the Commissioner on down which we already know.

    • @8bitsdeletedchannel
      @8bitsdeletedchannel Год назад +1

      6 other teams are already threatening relocation. For all we know this has already been agreed upon

    • @damiant.mccalman8123
      @damiant.mccalman8123 Год назад

      what if the other owners want Fisher to fail and sell? That's a reason to let him do all of this and then reject it. They may already think that he's a bumbling fool and just wanted him to prove it to the world@@EricHeinze-uh9nn

  • @Baseball_Fan_NV
    @Baseball_Fan_NV Год назад +2

    You said teams never cooperate in the same market. Golden Knights owner Bill Foley is ready to welcome the Oakland Athletics as a new neighbor on the Strip. Foley said he plans to meet with A’s President Dave Kaval sometime Friday or Saturday [spoken in May - already met] to chat about the team’s Las Vegas plan. He thinks the setup of having both major league and minor league teams in the same community pays dividends for all involved. If the A’s end up in Las Vegas, Foley sees an opportunity to cross-promote the two teams, something that hasn’t occurred with the Raiders.

    • @Baseball_Fan_NV
      @Baseball_Fan_NV Год назад +1

      @@TrainSimContent These direct quotes come from an article in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, the largest paper in Nevada. Golden Knights’ Foley supports A’s Las Vegas relocation plans May 12, 2023. lmao back to you haha

    • @stefanbrown5872
      @stefanbrown5872 Год назад

      ⁠@@Baseball_Fan_NVit’s amazing you don’t understand fluff pieces compared to real material.
      You understand they are all competition right?
      Make Davis and folley don’t want it….. btw judging by your name…. You’re a bot for sure
      I bet you think fisher is a good owner too?
      It’s always easy to spot the clowns…..

    • @rainbowmade1880
      @rainbowmade1880 Год назад +1

      Largest excuse for a newspaper.

    • @madeithappen8158
      @madeithappen8158 Год назад +1

      That's BS, Foley doesn't give a damn about the A's

    • @Baseball_Fan_NV
      @Baseball_Fan_NV Год назад

      @@madeithappen8158 So you know better what's in Foley's mind than Foley himself. Total delusion.

  • @hoapres
    @hoapres Год назад +2

    Fisher isn't selling the team and the A's are moving to Vegas.

  • @hoapres
    @hoapres Год назад

    Fisher isn't selling the team and the A's are moving to Vegas. Samson (finally) got the message. Fisher's glorified press release cured many cases of hopium being the belief that the A's are going to remain in Oakland.

  • @mrdpdjr
    @mrdpdjr Год назад

    🤬💔

  • @davidammons1700
    @davidammons1700 Год назад

    Screw akland