Dual 2011 Server with Rails for less than $150!
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- 18 months ago, I was thrilled to find a Dual Socket 2011 motherboard for $200. Imagine my surprise when I find the same power in a 1U Server for half the price.
But first... What am I drinking???
Ninkasi (Eugene, OR) Oatis Oatmeal Stout. Roasty. Chocolaty. It's dark chocolate and black coffee. Simple, but very good.
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A lot of comments suggesting I "replace the old thermal paste". This came to me as a barebones server. The thermal paste is brand new Arctic MX-4. As I said in the video, dual 135W TDP chips are a strong ask of servers like this. I'd recommend sticking to 95-120W chips, or installing this server into an air conditioned rack ;-)
Also, quick update, the seller is sending a replacement board for the DOA server, no questions asked.
But what about the cpu voltages?
Might be a good idea to make a custom shroud that better directs the airflow across the CPUs, and put the fans on rubber grommets, should help cut the noise.
Would dual e5-2690v2`s be pushing it? At 130 rated they´re a bit high but they also usually over-estimate the draw for insurance. I´d guess for intermittent processing they would be OK but for 24/7 work they´d be frying in there.
Just curious: How do you manage the heat on a hot day if these are in the garage?
It's useful as both a cheap server, and a white noise machine.
And a terrible room heater
@@proNOOBIE_ not that terrible as a heater, you can heat your room at the samw time you compute thaings, and then the heating is free 😅
well, I think it won't qualify as a white noise machine. The spectrum will show plenty peaks instead a flat one. Nevertheless, your comment is funny ;)
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Yep by default this server is very noisy... But I was able to mod the top cover to add one 80mm fan as extractor for each processor, that brings down the temperature alone and instead of the default 5 front fans just took out 3 and left 2 there.
Wow the RTX voice reveal, really impressive
Now that’s an incredible tech demo, right up there with the Barnacules Nerdgasm leafblower with RTX on demo
And you don't even need an rtx card for it
This was done with nVidia Broadcast, which does require the RT cores.
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@@CraftComputing Tensor cores to be precise ;-)
This is the kinda shit I love. So hard to find people doing budget server builds. Even if they are the "best", I don't need/want a $5000 home lab. Keep it up man!
Me: "So how many servers do you need at home?"
Craft Computing: "Yes."
This is so awesome. I was talking to a customer today and they said wow are you in the data center... yes (actually home)
"Of course since it's a Craft Computing video, something had to go wrong"
I don't think I've ever seen a server build go perfectly smooth on RUclips so don't feel too bad.
you know shockingly, my dell poweredge tower loaded up extremely easily, including setting up IDrac. i was really impressed. now i have a 16 thread tower with 72gb ram and two chips, a slew of pcie 4, a pcie 16, onboard quad intel gigabit, and 8 hot swap sas bays. its a beast!
Great find. Nothing like snagging a solid server for cheap (or free). Some of my favorite memories from my IT MSP days would be onboarding new clients and taking a tour of their server room and seeing decom'd equipment still in the rack powered off. That would usually be followed by a conversation something along the lines of:
us: [Heavy Breathing] "do you... do you uhhh want us to get rid of this old crap for you? No charge"
them: "yeah sure whatever i don't care this stuff was here before i started working here"
us: "o-ok... we will get a trailer and some guys out here to clean this up for you"
[internally rejoicing at the upgrade our lab stacks would receive]
Jeff turns RTX on because the server is loud as f but then all we get is Jeff shouting for no reason because he can still hear them.
I find that funny
Ah I see...so you started a youtube channel just so you could buy stuff and give the boxes to Rambo? IT ALL MAKES SENSE...
Loving the videos man, keep it up!
Honestly I think a lot of people would just watch videos of Rambo playing in the boxes.
Definitely an opportunity for a second channel there 😜
@@CraftComputing craft computing cat tips :D
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THE DAY IS FINALLY HERE! esiso must be your biggest fan ...
They've only sold 150 of those NAS servers since last video 😂
@@CraftComputing wow lol
Nope, it is the company I work for.. MANY HP DL360 and 380 servers...All purchased from them..
I bought one of the Chenbros. Kinda surprised they didn't sell-through faster. But then it makes sense because of the size. If you don't have a rack (I don't), where can you put it? Mine hasn't arrived yet (it's been two weeks), but I'm considering hanging vertically on the wall, using a 4U wall bracket.
@@marked23 There are vertical server mounts that are truly space saving.
Dude. The idea of this sever, the beer, and that sweet tech wreath... I love your channel. Thank you for all the great ideas! I made some CPU ornaments years back from some ewaste pc's at work and brought them home (Pentium 4's and D's). Wife only let me use 4 out of the 30ish. I salute you sir.
Love the RAM wreath on the wall
A quick note: Intel VT-X is the general function for virtualiziation from Intel (Which pretty much every CPU hast). It has nothing to do with passthrough. For passthrough your CPU and Mainboard need to support Intel VT-D. This is less common and usually only found in Xeon and HEDT (and i think some weird i3s....)
Cheers!
What timing - I have 2 of those coming in tomorrow with 2650V2’s. Didn’t realize the board had iSCSI built right in though - that’s awesome, I will put the 2 x 240GB SSD’a I bought to boot them up into the NAS. Thanks for the vids, Jeff - you’re doing great work!
Jeff - any plans for an Unraid build? Would love to see one!
“We got an over temp alarm” YAAYYY you are such a nerd! AND I LOVE IT!!!
Thank you for an honest review. The loud fan noise got my attention haha.
New video - it's a good day. Then crushed when they don't ship internationally.
Any plans on a video with a medley of the tasting reviews? I look forward to the bonus at the end. Always makes me smile watching your expressions after first tasting.
Great channel! I have the same server and I have replaced the fan with 5x Noctua NF-A4x20 PWM (you can control the fan speed - the FLX model doesn't allow you to do so), and it is nearly silent. I need to change the one in the power supply and it is super quiet. Keep up with the excellent job! Ciao!
No way I have the same server and could find 0 information on it. Am very glad I found your Chanel
That Oatmeal Stout has been my beer of choice lately
quad channel setup is a MUST to have
Thank you. I was miffed at the lack of measurements last time
I do enjoy your videos but I wish you would add a watt meter and just mentioned idle and max power draw. Would be appreciated! Cheers
@@isaackvasager9957 or one could just opt lower TDP xeons
@@isaackvasager9957 Should put dual E5-2648Lv2, put in ssd, 128gb ram, and it will happily run a LOT of vm especially in not-so-demanding workload environment. So no, it is not useless. But yes, it does not fit in processing power scenario. We cannot talk about cheap and processing power in the same place, I think.
Power consumption at idle and under indicated load would be a nice addition. A Kill A Watt meter makes easy work of it. Or some of those little smart outlets have energy meter built in. So it gives you power draw at any given time and a remote power off/on if needed.
You would love the area that I live in. We have a property disposition center that is part of the local university. There they sell off all the old office/lab/computer equipment. 1 or 2 generation old servers, computer and equipment are all there. Pretty darn cheap as well, all in good condition and I've never gotten a bad item. =)
Looking forward to that iSCSI content!
So I have a few of these and decided to check out the video because the nice blue color caught my eye. I personally ran everything from 2630L v1 to a 2695v2 and never really had much of an issue with heat on more intensive workloads. That said, my rack is in a basement that gets to about 70f in the summer. I wanted to upgrade to v3/v4 chips so I grabbed a pair of X10DRD boards and it was a near perfect swap. The back IO was a little off going from RJ45 to SFP but still worked fine.
Having downsized my setup for efficiency I can say the with the limited capacity of the board, going to the X10 series let me increase the density ALOT. 256GB of ram, e5 2640v3 and a ssd for boot, only idles at 70 watts.
ahh ya a good ol ninkasi oatis. Huge fan. The vanilla oatis is one of the best stouts IMHO
I have fun with old server stuff. My actual media server is a dual socket Xeon X5677's with 24gb of RAM. I used to keep it in a 4U chassis, but actually moved it to a Cooler Master HAF lanbox.
Since I host things like Minecraft, I need server processors that are fast, and it's still hard to find affordable upgrades beyond what I have at the moment.
I know that feel, last year bought a used server for 300 euros including shipping to other side of EU
HP ProLiant DL360 G7 with Dual X5690 CPU's and 144GB DDR3. tossed out the sas drives and put in used Samsung SSD 840 Pro drivesi had laying around.
Best 300 euros i have spent on ebay purchase. hosting mail/web and game servers with VMware ESXi
Jeff. Have you looked to see if Supermicro has a BIOS update that would allow you to do hardware pass-through? Keep it up. Thanks
As overkill as this would be I'm sure this server would make a great firewall/router box ala pfSense/opnSense. I run a QOTOM MiniPC for my OPNsense needs and it works great, but having more power would be nice too. haha. Great video Jeff!
Another great video. What you call a server addiction I call another video for our vewing pleasure. As for the Beer. I love a good Coffee/Chocolate Stout/Porter beer. To me the color looked great and the bitter and sometime sweet notes(depends on how the Brewer decided to make) is one of my favorite styles of beer. You should try High Tower Brewery Coffee Stout brewed with real coffee beans its really good and almost feels like a meal in a glass.
Another great video, Jeff!
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I just realized I'm not subscribed. Fixed it. To be fair, your videos has always showed up on my feed (which is why I thought I was subscribed)
Hi Jeff, love your videos!
I used to pick up older HP DL300 models from a local school on eBay.
G5-G7, sometimes as little as a couple dollars. Usually with at least most of the parts. Not all would have two CPUs or coolers, some with RAM, some without, always PSUs but never drives.
Made some decent cash off them after tinkering and setting them up. I used a few for game servers a while and still made a profit. I still actually have one with a pair of 6c/12t and 32gb of RAM collecting dust.
Intel VT-x is virtualization extensions, while VT-d is the "PCI-E" passthrough equivalent.
You'd think after 10 years as a server admin, I'd stop confusing those acronyms every other day.....
@@CraftComputing Nope, the confusion is part of the intention in the naming process.
There is an updated bios from supermicro. Could you do a video on updating the Bios Craft?
@@CraftComputing could you do a video on updating the bios? There is an updated bios from supermicro.
I have no idea if the updated bios will fix the pci problem. But I hope it does. I have the same server, and want to install a 10g pci card. However with the card in the slot, the server will not even boot up. Card is an HP NC523sfp / QLE3242-HP
Thermal compund can dry up after a few years of use, so you could try to remove the heatsinks and check if it is still ok.
Cool video, feed the server addition.
surely a few noctua fans and a tweak in supermicro's IPMI can help the fan noise! I just bought one of these to replace one of my servers.
I was thinking about the same thing with the fans. Are the headers on the motherboard 3pin or 4pin? My desk is right next to my server rack, so I don't want to hear loud fans. How did the noctua change out end up for you? Is this thing quiet then?
@@mattscheurman1616 MUCH more quiet. What a difference! Only thing is, you will need to adjust fan speeds in the IPMI or have some air from a standing fan blowing on or around it since the fans run pretty slow speeds at idle. Even then, the noise is practically non-existent. They only fan not replaced is the power supply fan which upon further investigation, is wired pretty far into the unit. Not going near the death caps lol. That one is decently quiet. The fan connectors are 4-pin.
I really like your videos man! You show the low budget side of things. Thanks to you I’ve build a pretty dialed truenas machine. I was just wondering if you checked the thermal compound on those CPUs. Given the temperature delta between the 2 I would just double check for peace of mind.
The Christmas wreath made of ram sticks is a nice touch.
This is going to fit great in my skb case
Thanks for this. I was oh so close to ordering one of these servers. My rack is next to my desk in my home office. I cannot imagine competing with those fans on conference calls. I will continue to look for other budget rack alternatives. I have a small (depth) rack so I need short servers. Might just have to build my own with new desktop gear. I wanted a 2 cpu build so bad. Thanks!
Do you think replacing the fans with noctua fans would help the sound issue?
I would love to have a text label edited in, whenever you mention those long part names like E5 2698. Maybe even for all parts? I tend to pause the video and need to listen twice or listen very carefully the whole time... which i usually dont do. Anyways: love your content. I really enjoy these budget server builds
I came across a free Craigslist Special Barracuda Web Filter 310. I've been in the process of setting up pfSense. Having come with 2 Intel Gigabit nics this will work pretty good for replacing my primary router. I had originally planned to configure an old computer (6-core amd FX6100) as a router with 3Com Giganics, the Barracuda will offload the OpenVPN, firewall, and various other basic things. That way I won't have to worry about goofing up the server and shutting everything down.
It's been a struggle configuring, mostly due to my lack of knowledge of setting up pfSense, but getting there.
I bought one of these, it is a great server and my first server.
Some cases did have "air guides" to push the air into needed locations. if you need that full spee, maybe a makeshift "air guide" woudl improve temps on that second CPU.
Still, that is one nice ifnd.
I'm guessing your rack is in a different room, but do you think replacing the fans with Nocuta fans would proivde some benefits? or would that be a dissaster on temps?
Just got mine and its awesome
Finally a good cheap pc and room heather for winter
The warning stickers are for Jason (Byte my bits) benefit. If you have seen his new video about battery replacement...You will understand.
There is nothing wrong in feeling excited every 4 days.
In 2020 we need little things like that
Big like for the metric measurements
VT-x is hardware virtualization support. PCIe passthrough requires *VT-d*. Some hardware that has VT-x is missing VT-d, especially 1st and 2nd gen Core era parts.
If the one processor was running hotter, wouldn't you want to go ahead and remove the heatsinks and clean off the old thermal grease and apply some fresh stuff to see if that helps? Might go ahead and do both while you are under there!
Nice to see a fellow Oregonian who is also a PC nerd :)
Nice vídeo !!!
couple of days ago i've gought a DellR620 with dual E5-2620, 16GB of ram and Dual 750W PSU. All for 130€ shipped
Great information ✊🏾 I'm new to home lab setups. What's the practical use scenario for a serve like this? Can it be used as a Plex server? Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Out of curiosity, with these servers you buy, do you replace the thermal paste under the CPU heatsinks? Just wondering if that might help with your temperatures in case the reseller didn't do any kind of refurbish on the system before selling them.
good video
The RTX voice part, 10/10.
oooooo , have a nice week, sad vt3 is not ok but great prize !!!
I suppose it'd make more sense to go dual 2650v2 on there. Decent clock speeds, easier to manage heat output. In virtualisation, the CPU is rarely the bottleneck.
Heck, even the E3 class E2136 in my Dell T140 will do fine, beating the Xeon Silver 4110 in multi core.
The seller is very easy to work with he does sometimes take a bit for him to get back to you. Have bought 3 storage servers through him.
Question, I have bought a server rack that is identical to the one that you had before your current one, and I need to mount 3x 4U servers on it, but they didn't come with a rail and I am unsure how to buy one that fits them. Nice video mate!
So is there any slight chance that the rails from the server fit the NR12000? I know they will not let the server fully extend out, but it would be nice to know. Keep up the awesome videos?
What model rack are you using, and where did you get it? It looks particularly nice, and I am looking to replace my old 42U rack which has threaded screw holes for one which uses rack nuts to fit my Dell server rails, which I may also go for something a little shorter.
I use these HYVE Zeus servers as Untangle router boxes, I have one at home right now :)
Baby blue front bezel?? Who in the world would rock that? Flys away.
I'd be really interested in how you do your home network. I'm going to expand mine this upcoming year and looking to see how.
You should look into trying to find a modded or custom bios for that board to see if you can get those features enabled.
Hi man!
Did you reapply the thermal paste on the xeons ? i think it would help the performance, by a lot :D
Eyyyy a 2690 V0, I have one of those in my daily driver desktop :D
If you dropped the CPUs to more low power ones and replaced those fans with something like Noctua’s 40mm it might be usable in a home setting. The base kit on eBay would make a pretty decent firewall if you don’t do VMs
In this video you note the lack of VT-x3 in the bios but in a later video you build 3 of these with video cards for pass through. Did you find a way to activate the VT-x3 support on the motherboard?
on the front is pretty much nothing but a bunch of...."SPEED HOLES"... BRILLIANT!!!!
Great review, I was looking for this server a while back. Is there a chance you can test PCI Bifurcation for NVME Drives on the pcie bay? Thanks
I bought one of these jet engines a year ago. Only complaint is the sound. It's great for Proxmox and the best price to performance ratio I could find.
Great !!! Did you create vms and cts with out any issue ?
@@giovannipena2663 yep, no issues. I'm using 2 500 gb ssds with ZFS for storage and loaded it with 128gb of memory.
If you need to replace the PSU keep the existing cables so if the new one doesn't have them you do!!
Put a 10gig or 25gig NIC in that open slot and that thing would make an OK secondary virtualization server connected to a fast NAS. although I would prefer a 2011-3 platform.
The beer potentially being knocked over gives me anxiety 🤣.
regarding that psu - your alternative would be buying any fitting one and using an 300€ molex crimp tool to crimp the connectors yourselve - yes the tool costs money, but having one myself, it just does what it is supposed to do, not like 12€ ones...
@Craft Computing, Do you think the server could become more "home friendly" by replacing the factory fans with Noctua NF-A4x20 fans or would they be inadequate for cooling purposes?
I am wondering this same thing myself.
the RTX on is a nice touch with the noise suppression on
I picked one up just recently, mainly to use as a third system in a Proxmox cluster just to play around with cluster/HA abilities. Two L-series CPUs and 64GB ECC RAM. I 3d printed my own adapters to swap out the fans for Noctuas. If I was really pressing the CPUs then it really wouldn't be enough, but at the minimal use I put on it they work fine. Mine had the drive cage, but had to buy the riser and rails separately. The main nuisance is the outdated IPMI relying on the garbage Java console.
any plans to release the STL's on thingiverse?
Would love a iSCSI tutorial, trying to get that up and running on my server and having nothing but issues
hope i find one of those too, its like gold in my place, had always been dreaming to build my own server,
btw, how's the power consumption so far?
What is the plan with the DIY server that you pulled from the rack?
All of the recent servers are to be able to tinker with. It'll go back in at some point :-)
weirdly liking the baby blue front
a tour of your servers and their purposes would be a good gap filler video, what do you need them all for? :)
Oh, I don't know if I am late to the party, was that a mechanical keyboard? If so can you give some info on it. I have been thinking of buying / DIY (but more leaning to buying).
I was watching your last Chinese x99 video and was wondering if you had thought about setting up steamcache. With the downloads you do often, including this machine, this would reduce the time you'd have to wait for windows updates, steam, etc.
In the video you talk about the PCI pass through not working. I'm assuming that's for just vms? Would the pci slot for a gpu would work normally then?
Just got one of these.
Lucky! Can’t find one of these anywhere. Want one bad
Might try updating the bios to most recent: 3.3 according to super micro. May fix the ability to enable VT-X
Yeah I really need to know this before I jump.