glad you broguht this up. Like I've seen people complain in global in my sever ir TINY things. Like last week I've seen people complaining that SSO won't add something, i can't remember exactly what it was
I've been playing Star Stable for 9 years. I am not against the changed of the graphics, horse models or even the quality of life updates. I am however against how much they are neglecting the game. For instance half of the gen 3 horses cant wear half of the tack in the game although they are supposed to be able too. The game would rather favoratize making new horses and tack over what they should be focused on right now. Retrofitting tack to the preexisting horses. Once again, I love the graphics, all the recent horses have been beautiful and amazing. But for gods sake I just want to wear newer tack on my Gen 3 horses. Their favoritizing select horse breeds when releasing items (Arabians, Andalusians) Instead of taking a few weeks to retrofit the preexisting gen 3 horses into tack (Gotland Pony's, Jorvik Wild horses, Knabstrapers, Welsh Pony's, Jorvik Pony's) Even the Jorvik Warmbloods cant wear some of the tack. Especially free sets being added in that anyone can claim that beginners cant use. Not to mention the fact that they removed the ability to wear items that you own when your not the proper level gap, FORCING people into either buying membership or waiting until they release the next free star rider codes. The birthday shirt was for only lvl 7 people and above. Realistically most beginning players arent going to be farming levels and would want to read the dialog and all it has to offer which takes a lot longer than 3 days to complete. Call me a complainer if you want, But we NEED more retrofitting and less new items to RETROFIT, that they probably wont later on. Thank you if you read this. Edit: Another topic of interest, They need to either update the chat system or completely get rid of it. The reality of it is, SSO IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS. Their are immature people getting away with Sluring, Cursing and Pervertively talking in the chats and the most we get out of the SSO team is a written apology and no real changes or updates to stop what is repeatedly happening. Lets all be honest, The hashtag system was better at protecting kids than this new system is. Not to mention simple and innocent messages are being blocked rather than the bad stuff that is released to the public.
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to write a well thought out response! I loved reading your side of things, and I actually completely agree with everything you said! I was looking at it from a very narrow approach but the bigger picture of tack etc IS frustrating and is clearly a money grab. I mean the stable customisation being 90 star coins for one thing is a clear indication of this 🥲🫶
@@leahspringspoon I'm pretty sure that they have stated in one of their on-site blog posts that they are currently working on retrofitting *all* the gen 3 horses and are planning to have retrofitted all G3 horses before the summer of 2025. (I looked it up, it's in their March game blog and in the August part 1 gameblog). They have been hard at work to refactor their retrofitting so it will be easier to retrofit items going forward, instead of the more difficult manual process that they were using that meant retrofitting was going slower. Genuinely, I don't think there's enough people who know about the game development blogs they release, I think if they read it they would have some answers to the questions I see super often.
I agree so much omg. As much as I love the older graphics, they kind of have no choice other than to update them. They have to stay caught up with today's technology in order to stay in business. I mean, if you think about it, imagine the old graphics compared to other games? They would probably go bankrupt. That's just my opinion, but I think it's a fact as well. Keep up with the awesome content! 👏❤
omg i saw you in a server, and i decided to subscribe, and i love your vids already! you’re so open and real about this because a lot of the players are a bit toxic about the progression of the game so thanks for speaking up about it!
Honestly, im pretty biased bc I also prefer the old graphics but for some reasons.. Games like Minecraft, WoW and others either stay with theyr "old" graphic or have whole classic servers dedicated to keep the old graphic intact. Thats because its fitting, its nostalgic, and in all irony its the thing that nowadays differentiates your game from others. If every game is gonna have these polished smooth fortnite graphics its not gonna have any alone-standing factor. The kind of weird edgyness was fitting for the game and the story - it wasnt just another horsegame for your 9 your old daughter, it managed to hold up a much wider demographic (just how I feel about it and very cut down.) Theres a certain charm that simply gets.. lost. Plus, this new design just.. isnt good. It just doesnt fit or transfer as well as it should be. A great example is League of Legends - it desperately needed a new design and the new one got such good feedback and is still fitting the games style without making it look like a fortnite version of another game genre. Games like for example Overwatch fit the new round soft kind of design as well, but I dont think starstable profits off of this. Point is, changing your graphics isnt bad, and it is a must if you want to keep your game running and selling well, but you have to make it fitting to the game you already have established for years. Make it FIT not make it NEW.
Exactly this.. If they wanted to completely change the UI and character designs they should have just made a whole new game, or at least have tried to make the new UI and characters fit with the old ones. (The characters especially soul/dark riders may look similar but they lost all their charm with the new models) it's even worse considering a lot of npcs and areas aren't updated. I understand how it'd take a LOT of time to update hundreds of npcs and large areas but I think they should have released when everything was done rather than with things still old. I'm biased to say I'd prefer no update at all and a new game but that's just my opinion.
Player from 2014 here that quit a little while ago. I left the community due to being bullied by little kids saying things like adults and LGBTQ people shouldn’t play sso. I experienced so many little kids that just had so much hate in their hearts whether it be about the editing side of the community or just the game as a whole. Kids started to full on report the sso pride event and tbh that was the last straw. Starstable is a very welcoming game they have made me feel very welcome over my teenage years, and I am very happy others get to grow up with it too. People need to be greatful and if they want to be hateful towards other groups of people they need to find a new horse game because sso is not hateful. Thank you I left behind my account with nearly 500 horses since I just couldn’t take the hate
im so glad someone said this out loud, every single sso related video i see theres always the comments being FILLED with the old players saying how much they “miss the old sso” and how much “sso is ruined” when in reality its not ruined, its just changed
I totally agree w u, people who haven’t been playing the game for a long period of time. I’ve been playing for 4-5 years so not as long as Leah but still a long time. Star stable if they didn’t have changed the graphics the clientel (excuse my spelling) would be very different. There target market is 9 year olds and above, sso is not just made for adults but kids, they would have to change the graphics otherwise they would have terrible clientele and wouldn’t get any money from new people. As Leah said it is a company they do it for money like every company, every company has to change the graphics so it’s good for new players and not just new players but for the old players as well
I agree 💯. I started playing since 2014-2016? I’m an adult now yet I still play this game. I rarely have issues with the constant changes (with the exception of a fact they keeping the medieval thing in the game fsr) the reason is because everything changes as time goes on and I really like the new looks of the locations. And they finally fixed the friesian horses! Hearing all these people complaining now is just a bore…
I love the new look of SSO my issue is the price of everything makes me not want to play the game anymore because a lot of things cost star coins now. Also for being lifetime you don’t get anything different.
Just a heads-up I'm also an adult player. I play for about 10 years and this is just the way I feel about things. The problem isn't that they're changing, but the way they're doing it. For example, personally, I can't entirely agree with the new look that was chosen for Soulriders for me it was like they lost the vibe they had as idols for young and to the original story (from ssl and sso till 2017). For example, Lisa went from an emo, rockstar type of girl to a sweet, kind country girl. I'm not saying they did a bad job on them, I just don't feel like they fit the original vibe. Changing the story and removing quests, is a bit difficult. For the main questline or those that are closely related to it, I don't think removing was a good choice it would probably be better to rewrite it + change to new graphics. As for small questlines that aren't that important world-building, It's okay to do with them whatever they would see fitting. No matter what, You(the game) want to tell a story (outside of selling items) and it shouldn't matter what graphic you use. The tale you(the game) are telling should be the same. Sure here and there you need to make small changes so things would make sense and connect to each other. But removing a big chunk of the story isn't the best choice. Also, you need to write it in language that is comprehensible to children and interesting for them, without themes that aren't for especially 9-year-old kids. With a lot of quests that were originally for teens, it must be difficult to make it for children. But they chose to focus on children as an easier way to make money. I don't like the current trend of releasing items and horses, Sure it gets them quick money but long term it's not good for them. I like to think of SC as short-term money, You buy SC, buy an item in the game and that is where it ends. They also need to focus also for gaining more memberships -SR. I think of those as long-term money because it can be locked as repetitive payment, it goes on for days and unlocks content, so it's more valuable for players and for sse investors, the players' playtime. So it gives more to the players than just cosmetics. And saying that SR players constantly getting content isn't as true anymore. With the current trend, it might seem more likely to spend more SC and sometimes even heavy SC. One of the main reasons why people buy SR is the content and open map to explore. Also, I know that for some cosmetics might be the reason they play more, and that's true. The events, there isn't done anything to improve them or change things a bit. Thou the events are the time when they have most players on, they don't use those opportunities.
DONT BE MAD AT ME FOR BEING A NEW PLAYER PLZ ) im pretty new to sso ive been playing for a few months now and i get very annoyed when i see people hating on the game i mean yes star coins and stuff are wa to much money thhat is one thing i agree with but i dont get why people hate on the graphics and the horses and even te stable costumization look people games are ganna change no one cares that about the fact u want the old game back games are ganna change over year and yall just gotta fricken deal with it there are some things i dislike about the game but im not going to complain if u are going to complain then just dont play the game now i have seen old sso bc i watch youtubers playing and ya i do miss seeing the old stuff in the videos but the game looks better and i didnt care about the change bc again what do u expect games are going to change
Didn't see old sso I've only played it a year not long started before the characters changed hehe n igree they need to change it the game will stop as it be boring if they keep it the same
Im a new-ish player, I only started playing this year despite being level 20 (proves sso is the best), and when i see old footage of old SSO, i cant help but think ewwwwwwwww. I dont get how so many people prefer old sso over new sso.
If you enjoy the new graphics and new horses that's great for you but as someone who's been playing this game for years I grew up with the old graphics. So yes you could blame things fully on nostalgia but my personal preference would always be the old graphics gen1 horses and old soul/dark riders. You probably wouldn't be able to understand why we love old sso if you didn't grow up with that experience! (Even my friends/bf who have never played sso prefer the old style so I believe it comes down to personal preference
tbh people have been butthurt about every new thing as long as I've played this game so almost 10 years. Niche game genre gamers and horse people can be whiny little brats sometimes.
Honestly all I've seen is people bitching and moaning about the new update with the home stable about how "costly" it is and I think people forget that stuff like that takes a lot of time, effort and money and SSO as stated in the video NEEDs to make money to keep the game running. It's a business and sadly to say business need to make money to spend money. I understand that it does suck that most of themes do cost SC's but there are some very beautiful choices of the themes you can buy with shillings and I think it's about time people need to stop complaining and acting like SSO owes them free stuff. Heck sso gave out a 150sc code before the update dropped :L
Sorry, but in 2011 when this game was new they weren’t doing such a scummy practices. And now they need money? XD It only shows that this game is dying, even if white knights like you say otherwise
Please watch the whole video before commenting 🥲💕
I don't get why they expect games to not develop over the years? Every game does it LOLL
I think it's definitely a vocal minority
I played the game back in 2017 too, and I only started playing again because it looks nice now 💀
Yey, beautiful graphics and nothing else xd Just like in the sims 4
glad you broguht this up. Like I've seen people complain in global in my sever ir TINY things. Like last week I've seen people complaining that SSO won't add something, i can't remember exactly what it was
I agree with you spoony, literally the second i voice my opinions, everyone starts attacking me. It’s just annoying at this point.
I've been playing Star Stable for 9 years. I am not against the changed of the graphics, horse models or even the quality of life updates. I am however against how much they are neglecting the game. For instance half of the gen 3 horses cant wear half of the tack in the game although they are supposed to be able too. The game would rather favoratize making new horses and tack over what they should be focused on right now. Retrofitting tack to the preexisting horses. Once again, I love the graphics, all the recent horses have been beautiful and amazing. But for gods sake I just want to wear newer tack on my Gen 3 horses. Their favoritizing select horse breeds when releasing items (Arabians, Andalusians) Instead of taking a few weeks to retrofit the preexisting gen 3 horses into tack (Gotland Pony's, Jorvik Wild horses, Knabstrapers, Welsh Pony's, Jorvik Pony's) Even the Jorvik Warmbloods cant wear some of the tack. Especially free sets being added in that anyone can claim that beginners cant use. Not to mention the fact that they removed the ability to wear items that you own when your not the proper level gap, FORCING people into either buying membership or waiting until they release the next free star rider codes. The birthday shirt was for only lvl 7 people and above. Realistically most beginning players arent going to be farming levels and would want to read the dialog and all it has to offer which takes a lot longer than 3 days to complete. Call me a complainer if you want, But we NEED more retrofitting and less new items to RETROFIT, that they probably wont later on. Thank you if you read this.
Edit: Another topic of interest, They need to either update the chat system or completely get rid of it. The reality of it is, SSO IS NOT SAFE FOR KIDS. Their are immature people getting away with Sluring, Cursing and Pervertively talking in the chats and the most we get out of the SSO team is a written apology and no real changes or updates to stop what is repeatedly happening. Lets all be honest, The hashtag system was better at protecting kids than this new system is. Not to mention simple and innocent messages are being blocked rather than the bad stuff that is released to the public.
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to write a well thought out response! I loved reading your side of things, and I actually completely agree with everything you said! I was looking at it from a very narrow approach but the bigger picture of tack etc IS frustrating and is clearly a money grab. I mean the stable customisation being 90 star coins for one thing is a clear indication of this 🥲🫶
@@leahspringspoon
I'm pretty sure that they have stated in one of their on-site blog posts that they are currently working on retrofitting *all* the gen 3 horses and are planning to have retrofitted all G3 horses before the summer of 2025. (I looked it up, it's in their March game blog and in the August part 1 gameblog).
They have been hard at work to refactor their retrofitting so it will be easier to retrofit items going forward, instead of the more difficult manual process that they were using that meant retrofitting was going slower.
Genuinely, I don't think there's enough people who know about the game development blogs they release, I think if they read it they would have some answers to the questions I see super often.
I agree so much omg. As much as I love the older graphics, they kind of have no choice other than to update them. They have to stay caught up with today's technology in order to stay in business. I mean, if you think about it, imagine the old graphics compared to other games? They would probably go bankrupt. That's just my opinion, but I think it's a fact as well. Keep up with the awesome content! 👏❤
They are bankrupt right now XD See Rattle video about this
omg i saw you in a server, and i decided to subscribe, and i love your vids already! you’re so open and real about this because a lot of the players are a bit toxic about the progression of the game so thanks for speaking up about it!
Honestly, im pretty biased bc I also prefer the old graphics but for some reasons.. Games like Minecraft, WoW and others either stay with theyr "old" graphic or have whole classic servers dedicated to keep the old graphic intact. Thats because its fitting, its nostalgic, and in all irony its the thing that nowadays differentiates your game from others. If every game is gonna have these polished smooth fortnite graphics its not gonna have any alone-standing factor. The kind of weird edgyness was fitting for the game and the story - it wasnt just another horsegame for your 9 your old daughter, it managed to hold up a much wider demographic (just how I feel about it and very cut down.)
Theres a certain charm that simply gets.. lost. Plus, this new design just.. isnt good. It just doesnt fit or transfer as well as it should be. A great example is League of Legends - it desperately needed a new design and the new one got such good feedback and is still fitting the games style without making it look like a fortnite version of another game genre. Games like for example Overwatch fit the new round soft kind of design as well, but I dont think starstable profits off of this.
Point is, changing your graphics isnt bad, and it is a must if you want to keep your game running and selling well, but you have to make it fitting to the game you already have established for years. Make it FIT not make it NEW.
Exactly this.. If they wanted to completely change the UI and character designs they should have just made a whole new game, or at least have tried to make the new UI and characters fit with the old ones. (The characters especially soul/dark riders may look similar but they lost all their charm with the new models) it's even worse considering a lot of npcs and areas aren't updated. I understand how it'd take a LOT of time to update hundreds of npcs and large areas but I think they should have released when everything was done rather than with things still old. I'm biased to say I'd prefer no update at all and a new game but that's just my opinion.
Player from 2014 here that quit a little while ago. I left the community due to being bullied by little kids saying things like adults and LGBTQ people shouldn’t play sso.
I experienced so many little kids that just had so much hate in their hearts whether it be about the editing side of the community or just the game as a whole. Kids started to full on report the sso pride event and tbh that was the last straw.
Starstable is a very welcoming game they have made me feel very welcome over my teenage years, and I am very
happy others get to grow up with it too. People need to be greatful and if they want to be hateful towards other groups of people they need to find a new horse game because sso is not hateful.
Thank you
I left behind my account with nearly 500 horses since I just couldn’t take the hate
im so glad someone said this out loud, every single sso related video i see theres always the comments being FILLED with the old players saying how much they “miss the old sso” and how much “sso is ruined” when in reality its not ruined, its just changed
I totally agree w u, people who haven’t been playing the game for a long period of time. I’ve been playing for 4-5 years so not as long as Leah but still a long time. Star stable if they didn’t have changed the graphics the clientel (excuse my spelling) would be very different. There target market is 9 year olds and above, sso is not just made for adults but kids, they would have to change the graphics otherwise they would have terrible clientele and wouldn’t get any money from new people. As Leah said it is a company they do it for money like every company, every company has to change the graphics so it’s good for new players and not just new players but for the old players as well
I agree 💯. I started playing since 2014-2016? I’m an adult now yet I still play this game. I rarely have issues with the constant changes (with the exception of a fact they keeping the medieval thing in the game fsr) the reason is because everything changes as time goes on and I really like the new looks of the locations. And they finally fixed the friesian horses! Hearing all these people complaining now is just a bore…
love your content leah 🥰
This made me cry but I also agree with you 🫶
I met you on CV. It made my day 🥹 Thank you for letting me take some pictures with you! You're amazinggg
Omgg same I did that too what’s your username?
@@Sofia_firesea Mia woodlund🤣 I was poking Leah
@@Lucille_ili OH I REMEMBER U XDD IM SOFIA FIRESEA idk if u saw me xd
@@Sofia_fireseaYes!! I saw you, and I see you quite often too😁🫶
@@Lucille_ili ah lol I’m normally very active lol
I love the new look of SSO my issue is the price of everything makes me not want to play the game anymore because a lot of things cost star coins now. Also for being lifetime you don’t get anything different.
I 100% agree with you on everything
Spoony uploaded again 😊
Just a heads-up I'm also an adult player. I play for about 10 years and this is just the way I feel about things.
The problem isn't that they're changing, but the way they're doing it. For example, personally, I can't entirely agree with the new look that was chosen for Soulriders for me it was like they lost the vibe they had as idols for young and to the original story (from ssl and sso till 2017). For example, Lisa went from an emo, rockstar type of girl to a sweet, kind country girl. I'm not saying they did a bad job on them, I just don't feel like they fit the original vibe.
Changing the story and removing quests, is a bit difficult. For the main questline or those that are closely related to it, I don't think removing was a good choice it would probably be better to rewrite it + change to new graphics. As for small questlines that aren't that important world-building, It's okay to do with them whatever they would see fitting.
No matter what, You(the game) want to tell a story (outside of selling items) and it shouldn't matter what graphic you use. The tale you(the game) are telling should be the same. Sure here and there you need to make small changes so things would make sense and connect to each other. But removing a big chunk of the story isn't the best choice. Also, you need to write it in language that is comprehensible to children and interesting for them, without themes that aren't for especially 9-year-old kids. With a lot of quests that were originally for teens, it must be difficult to make it for children. But they chose to focus on children as an easier way to make money.
I don't like the current trend of releasing items and horses, Sure it gets them quick money but long term it's not good for them. I like to think of SC as short-term money, You buy SC, buy an item in the game and that is where it ends. They also need to focus also for gaining more memberships -SR. I think of those as long-term money because it can be locked as repetitive payment, it goes on for days and unlocks content, so it's more valuable for players and for sse investors, the players' playtime. So it gives more to the players than just cosmetics. And saying that SR players constantly getting content isn't as true anymore. With the current trend, it might seem more likely to spend more SC and sometimes even heavy SC. One of the main reasons why people buy SR is the content and open map to explore. Also, I know that for some cosmetics might be the reason they play more, and that's true.
The events, there isn't done anything to improve them or change things a bit. Thou the events are the time when they have most players on, they don't use those opportunities.
Really interesting read! Thank you for taking the time to explain things from another perspective 💕
Whyy am I not subscribed to this amazing youtuber hold on let me fix that *subscribers* Better. And I 100% agree with you too.
Best comment ever 💪💪 welcome to the team 🫶
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it needed to be said imo
THIS OMGGG
DONT BE MAD AT ME FOR BEING A NEW PLAYER PLZ ) im pretty new to sso ive been playing for a few months now and i get very annoyed when i see people hating on the game i mean yes star coins and stuff are wa to much money thhat is one thing i agree with but i dont get why people hate on the graphics and the horses and even te stable costumization look people games are ganna change no one cares that about the fact u want the old game back games are ganna change over year and yall just gotta fricken deal with it there are some things i dislike about the game but im not going to complain if u are going to complain then just dont play the game now i have seen old sso bc i watch youtubers playing and ya i do miss seeing the old stuff in the videos but the game looks better and i didnt care about the change bc again what do u expect games are going to change
Didn't see old sso I've only played it a year not long started before the characters changed hehe n igree they need to change it the game will stop as it be boring if they keep it the same
Im a new-ish player, I only started playing this year despite being level 20 (proves sso is the best), and when i see old footage of old SSO, i cant help but think ewwwwwwwww. I dont get how so many people prefer old sso over new sso.
Look at the sims 2 and 4. Maybe you would understand
If you enjoy the new graphics and new horses that's great for you but as someone who's been playing this game for years I grew up with the old graphics. So yes you could blame things fully on nostalgia but my personal preference would always be the old graphics gen1 horses and old soul/dark riders. You probably wouldn't be able to understand why we love old sso if you didn't grow up with that experience! (Even my friends/bf who have never played sso prefer the old style so I believe it comes down to personal preference
tbh people have been butthurt about every new thing as long as I've played this game so almost 10 years. Niche game genre gamers and horse people can be whiny little brats sometimes.
Because they don’t love everything star stable does? XD You probably like being fucked by companies. Just like half of this community
Honestly all I've seen is people bitching and moaning about the new update with the home stable about how "costly" it is and I think people forget that stuff like that takes a lot of time, effort and money and SSO as stated in the video NEEDs to make money to keep the game running. It's a business and sadly to say business need to make money to spend money. I understand that it does suck that most of themes do cost SC's but there are some very beautiful choices of the themes you can buy with shillings and I think it's about time people need to stop complaining and acting like SSO owes them free stuff. Heck sso gave out a 150sc code before the update dropped :L
Sorry, but in 2011 when this game was new they weren’t doing such a scummy practices. And now they need money? XD It only shows that this game is dying, even if white knights like you say otherwise
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