The Death of The Disney Channel Popstar
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- everything used to come naturally, now we’re witnessing the start of something new. the disney channel model is proving to be so yesterday 😉
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Olivia Rodrigo choosing not to sign with Hollywwod Records was probably the best decision she could have ever made. Hollywood Records really stunted Sabrina's career. She's ten years in and finally has her first hit.
Feather was a hit I thought? & Nonsense was close.
@@Coco_Loco95 they’re both hits…
@@kevinmichael3371I’m not the one who implied that Espresso is her first hit…
@@Coco_Loco95 barely. i mean a real it. like top 20 on billboard type hit.
@@Coco_Loco95those only came out in 2023 though, so still took a long time.
I find it interesting that when Olivia Rodrigo blew up most people didnt even know she was on Disney cause being on Disney in this day and age is so irrelevant
Most people knew her from a movie called an American girl.
I remember watching her back in 2018 or something. I would've never guess she would blow up this much! Especially since her Disney show was pretty mediocre
@@sugarapple7288heavy on the mediocre Disney show! I was definitely shocked she made it this far
@joshuabutera2734
And the fact that the Paul Brothers were in it was so crazy 😭. It was such a random show
I think it was more about the show, it was such an irrelevant one, but if she had her own show like miley or selena, it would be differente
I feel like Zendaya shouldn’t count as she’s stated that she prefers acting over music. The other Disney popstars gave up acting to pursue music.
That counts she had multiple songs.
@@Cooljohn760 it’s different because all the other Disney popstars wanted a career in music and are still trying to pursue music. They used acting as a stepping stone to launch their career. Zendaya’s case feels more like being forced to do music against her will and dipping the moment she fulfilled her contract with Disney. Can’t call her a popstar when she was always an actress.
@@Cooljohn760not really most of her songs were connected to shake it up. She has one outside song and that’s Replay
Selena still does acting. She’s slowly getting back into it
Nahhh her music career flopped that’s why she chose acting but her acting is mediocre she needs fashion to be relevant
Another reason Disney and Nickelodeon can't push out pop stars like they used to is because fewer people actually are watching their programs on cable. Live viewership has declined from 50% to 70% from a decade ago, and most children's programming is being pushed to streaming services. Viewership used to be measured by millions of viewers but now it's by hundreds of thousands, meaning there are less opportunities to break out a new pop star.
Nonsense, Feather, Espresso, and being an opener on the Eras tour has really helped Sabrina break through!
yet it will never come close to the amount of love and success drivers license, deja vu, traitor, and pretty much every song on sour got..
@@cbhvhgjOmg, stop comparing women. Both Olivia and Sabrina are successful now, making music and doing projects they like. That’s all that matters.
@@juliacaceres733 no
@@cbhvhgj see i would've agreed if you said this a month ago, but espresso is currently at#3 on the global spotify chart. So i think i she's finally got her breakthrough hit.!
@@cbhvhgj I’m an olivia stan but yall need to grow up. Sabrina is at #3 on the charts right now and she’s doing extremely well, she is her own artist. It does not matter what Olivia did because they are not in a competition
Hollywood Records stunted Sabrina’s success. She’s about 5-10 years behind where she should be. Glad that Nonsense, Feather, and Espresso ricocheted her to where she’s at now at least.
"being manufactured isn't always the worst thing for an artist." yes, everybody is not good at everything. In fact, it's actually unusual for popstars to be good at singing, writing, producing, and developing an image/aesthetics all at the same time. I guess people just like the idea of the "started writing songs in my bedroom" popstar, so there's shame attached to the "manufactured" label.
That's why Kpop is popular. The whole point is to spent years manufacturing these talented singers, dancers and some producers.
Rihanna is an amazing example of a good manufactured artist. Almost all of her hits were written by others, she doesn't play any instruments nor produces her music, but she is a decent singer and a good performer. Plus, she developed an image of her own and is an amazing businesswoman.
Part of what helped the OGs succeed was that their young fan bases grew up alongside with them and remained faithful.
I still wish Bridgit Mendler’s second album was released. Deeper Shade of Us is SO good 😩
The second album she did back in 2014 got leaked months ago. ☺️
@@damiendemaxofficial4496 Really? 😮What's the name of that album?
@@madame__bizarre supposedly it was Timeless or Catalyst. I'll send you the link. The songs are also available solo to Google and listen to. ☺️
@@madame__bizarre ruclips.net/video/yMJsuZgJIPw/видео.htmlsi=mWwCdbvp0ZgBQI-y
@@madame__bizarre ruclips.net/video/yMJsuZgJIPw/видео.htmlsi=xKG8ZzXmn_zsYOlg
Sad that Ariana Grande was the only successful Nickelodeon pop star.
BTR was pretty successful
@@shhh5743who?
@@kimendablebig time rush
@@shhh5743ohh sorry u mean big time rush im horrible with abbreviations😭😭 yeah they were quite popular but it just hasn’t held up like Ariana has
I’d argue Ariana did it more on her own than with the help of Nickelodeon, if anything Nickelodeon pushed Victoria Justice and to an extent Miranda Cosgrove more than Ariana as far as record deals and playing their solo records on the network etc.
i think that olivia rodrigo is the last disney girlie to break the bubble and go mainstream. like, no one really watches disney now like we did back in the day, times have changed. our childhood is different than today's childhood, we didn't have social media back then. we need to give raven her flowers. she's the OG, like, for real. and she's still as relevant as she was back then, which is incredible. i think that miley, selena and demi were able to maintain their relevancy and success because their audience was the same and we all grew up with them, and so their work matured with their audience, which is smart.
They were also white.
Thank you for giving a spotlight to Raven Symone! To have worked since birth, to have handled the weight standards of early Y2K aesthetics, to maneuvering coming out in the public. To even being Lindsay Lohan’s roommate!
She is truly the GOAT of Disney!
@maxpower3... I SECOND THAT RAVEN SYMONE PRAISE IDK ABOUT LINDSAY LOHAN WAS HER ROOMATE... BUT THAN AGAIN I DO REMEMBER HEARING N WATCHING LINDSAY LOHAN SAY IT ON RUclips AFTER SHE GOT OUT OF REHAB
Hilary, Raven, Miley, Selena and Demi.... the golden era
I loved Raven so much
Disney never fully pushed African American stars sadly
Because disney is passive aggressive progressive
I think they’re lowkey racist
They have only made one black Disney princess so far (and I can’t even remember the girl’s name) I don’t count the “Princess And The Frog” one really (because that character was race-swapped as well too) but if you REALLY want to count the girl from “Princess And The Frog” you can Disney should do better (as I stated before) I definitely feel like they’re lowkey racist
Like I heard this interview once that Zendaya did where she said she had a publicist or something who said “just be glad that you’re getting to do this as a black girl on Disney” (or something along those lines) and I was like damn 😭
@@abbied yup they also failed Corbin blue musically and I heard never pushed raven as they did Hilary I love both girls tho
sabrina carpenter was that girl in 2016 on disney channel ! so proud she's mainstream now
Between Nonsense, Feather & Espresso… she’s been on repeat for me!
not even close. people love olivia more.
@@cbhvhgj yeah this is the most important for everyone !! thank u for your intervention
@@cbhvhgjbut sabrina is more talented
@@Arianator805 LOL
The fact that you forgot to mention Dove Cameron and Sophia Clarkson
*Sophia carson
@@youtubeobserver-vj4bp Sofia Carson !! 😂
@@youtubeobserver-vj4bpI was like Clarkson? (I thought it was Sofia Carson) 😩😂
Who? Never heard of them.
@@deenaprice1524 then look them up?
Your statement about the manufactured music of some of the disney kids being better is so real and I’m very happy you said it. I don’t like the new pop scene because not many labels wanna support new artists. Was some of the music generic? Sure, but it was produced wonderfully with really talented people working on it behind the scenes. I WANT HIGH QUALITY POP MUSIC BACK!
It’s not hard to understand why several singers who came from Disney don’t want to stick to that popstar mold due to them not wanting to be stuck in that box 😊
Disney singers don't really have mystique or style.
@@KrisBryant99 several do but it’s mostly about not wanting to be put in that teeny bop box
@@dasiareed2708Which ones would you say do then? (Just asking)
@@abbied they aren’t any “ singers” on Disney anymore I can’t really name them but Zendaya definitely had it,The cheetah girls,Raven,Emily osment
@@dasiareed2708 But those are the ones you were saying had mystique though (right?) ://
I will never forgive Hollywood records for stunting Sabrina's growth, however even if she hates the songs she made with them I'll always love them
RIGHT LOL how is it possible that selena made better music under the Disney machine . Its kinda embarrassing
and the only think that keeps her relevant till this day is how she always managed to attach herself with the biebers, but when it comes to her career it's pure silence
When I saw a video of toddle Raven giving an award to Muhammad Ali I was like damn this girl has done it all, she deserves her flowers!!
I was waiting for a Bridget Mendler cameo
I just noticed something. So, Zendaya and them didn’t grow up in that era of scandals and whatnot. Like Selena, Miley, Demi and the Jonas Brothers were all like a clique and had they little scandals. But one thing I noticed, Selena would appear on Hannah Montana as would the Jonas Brothers as cameos. But Demi never appeared on anybodies shows to do a cameo 💀 Like Selena and Demi did the Princess Protection Program but dang I kinda wanted to see Demi rival Miley on Hannah Montana! Wonder why that never happened…
Most likely bc of the drama going on w them. I’d like to think that’s why Miley and Selena didn’t interact in the suite life/wizards/hannah montana crossover ep. I’m surprised sonny w a chance was never included in any of the crossovers during the show. Like the show was based in LA, same for HM (in Malibu I think but still). Oh yeah Jonas wasn’t either, that’s crazy
@@beebeevids6851 Exactly! Demi wasn’t included in any of the crossovers or cameos, just by herself 😭 apart from Princess Protection Program and Camp Rock. That’s like the only thing that linked her to them lol
It seems like sunny with chance was taking place in reality. You know what I mean? Like Selena Gomez is playing herself on that show
@@beebeevids6851joe jonas was on an episode of sunny with a chance and sang a song with demi in the so random segment
Also they all collabed for friends for change after the drama 🤣 so sing a song about coming together to make a greener planet
Sabrina Carpenter makes some pretty dope pop songs
Too much pressure for them
While Hilary Duff did work with the Hollywood Records.
Hilarious thing is that she did her albums after being on Disney Channel.
People always talk about Hilary Duff’s Metamorphosis like it came out when she was still on Disney Channel when truly that wasn’t the case at all. Lol
Disney Channel did play out commercials of her growing up and moving on and how entirely proud of her they were playing some of her So Yesterday music video.
But, honestly, that was pretty much it. Lol
Heck, Hilary Duff begged to be a singer but they actually, believe it or not, refused.
Yet, it was due to the fact that she became a singer and made it huge afterwards after being a Disney Channel actress that made Disney Channel completely change their minds.
So then they started making pop stars out of everybody. Lol
Hilary Duff was the start of it all.
Yet, it’s absolutely hilarious that it had to happen after she left the channel unlike a lot of the others who came after her.😂😅
I also want to add in that I always often wonder if Demi Lovato actually started off her own way with music.
Would she be the first Olivia Rodrigo?
I could so imagine that it really could have happened for sure.😂😅
Although Disney created a great launch pad for Olivia's career after she wrote a song (All I Want) for one of the shows she was on and it blew up, I'm glad she's done her best to distance herself from that Disney girl image. I mean her first song "drivers license" was explicit and she was still on Disney at that point. She doesn't even say the names of the shows she was on, it's always "this one show that I was on" 😭
My man, you have forgotten talk about Lindsay Lohan career. She rose the fame to Disney she was a little girl before she reached her teenage years that when she became a Pop/Rock singer.
disney was sort of at its peak in the 90s-2000s. that's why they pushed their stars to branch out and kept them stuck in contracts.
the rise of social media has changed the game. teens are finding that same relation and entertainment from influencers and streaming sites over tv channels.
trends have changed aswell and unfortunately disney is stuck in the past with their marketing. the more doors that open, the less amount of artists looking for big breaks through labels and businesses.
it's good. disney pop stars are iconic but they were all abused and shoved in boxes that stunted their growth. disney was a starting point, the whole fascination was focused on what they'd do afterwards. we just get to skip ahead now.
Does ANYONE remember KSM? They were an all girl Disney poppunk band in the late 2000s with songs like I Want You To Want Me and Read Between The Lines. They made a song for wizards of waverly place called Magic Carpet Ride. Their sound is similar to Avril and Paramore and they even opened up for Demi Lovato on tour. They only ever released one album but the rhythm guitarist, Katie Cecil, had another band where she sung in the mid-late 2010s called Wayfarers (about three songs from Wayfarers made it into The Kissing Booth, including “Swimming In Stars” when at the kissing booth Elle and Noah kiss for the first time)
I remember them. Another forgotten Disney band is College 11
@@TheJosmani bought a KSM cd on eBay and it arrived a few days ago and it healed my childhood heart (I’m a older gen z not a millennial so i listened to KSM as a kid and preteen as opposed to a teen)
Selena is still doing pretty good. Except music she hasn’t released an album for 4 years. Her revival era and droplet era was soo good. But I’m soo glad she’s going back into acting. She’s really good in “only murders in the building”
I read "Pornstar". My brain is rotten lol.
Literally same 😂
My favorite Disney pornstar is the dad in wizards of waverly place
and you clicked on the video thinking it was that? 🤣
@@hasibrahim Yes 😔
Hi Honest Can we get a Eternal Sunshine review please & a video on George Michael and his impact on the music industry similar to a documentary & a video on Prince & his impact as well. 😊
Honestly I don’t necessary consider Olivia Rodrigo as a Disney pop star simply because she never made music behind their label. Unlike all the others, she signed to an entirely different label which allowed her artistic freedom and she was not restricted to what she had to make music about. Also, some did not know she was a Disney star when DL came out. She was not connected to Disney in any way unless you knew her from her shows. She blew up with the help of TikTok since her first single went viral on there, not with the help of Disney. I feel like out of everyone, she was the one who got out of Disney in the best way possible without any restrictions or forced into a box. Thus, I don’t think she should even be considered part of the Disney pop star machine. Even Sabrina Carpenter had to make certain number of albums before she can cut ties with them and I honestly think she might be the last former Disney star to make it big within music.
What about Dove Cameron or Sofia Carson?
sabrina carpenter is THAT girl
so true
She predicted to go #7-8, she deserves it, she has great music also.
no, olivia rodrigo is THAT girl.
@@cbhvhgjgirly why are you on every comment stop being a hater 🗿
@@flyingbird_8584 why do you care
I feel like Olivia is the only one who didn’t get popular in the music industry for being in Disney. She blew up thanks to TikTok
miley cyrus THEEEEE disney popstar .
What about Hilary Duff?
@@abbiedshe doesn’t have the musical talent as Miley even if she was Miley’s model for HM. I mean Disney made Miley performed live even before the show premiering when she was nobody and she still pulled it off. That’s how early she started her music career. Without her talent she wouldn’t even be cast for the role, let’s alone became the biggest franchise of the channel
@@Kayvid002 I still loved Hilary Duff growing up ❤️💕
@@Kayvid002 Wbu? 😌
Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Ryan Gosling (not a singer but a major hollywood actor) are also big popstars that came out of Disney
The Disney machine is the devil…
Nah that’s all of Hollywood (because Hollywood is the devil’s playground) 👍🏻👌🏻
@@abbied Agree.
Sabrina is the only pop star from disney that is authentic, not giving industry plant material
Literally so true
I would argue dove Cameron feels very genuine, especially her new stuff
olivia is authentic bc she was never signed to hollywood records
@@user-zc9mr5iv1q girl... Olivia is such an industry plant. The growth of her music career was so inauthentic
@@user-zc9mr5iv1q no she isn’t. Just another copy of Taylor swift
💖💖💖watchin all that stuff on tv back then lol it really felt like those times would never end
Thank you for highlighting Raven!! She is a Disney Channel icon that gets overlooked a lot!!
I miss the OG disney signed music artists like Jordan Pruitt 😢
Yes (I loved her too!) But sadly she decided she didn’t want to keep making music anymore but she was iconic (I forgot all about her till you commented this so I’m so glad you commented this tbh) 💕
@@abbied she was my favorite omfg
@@acroyryn She was amazing tbh 😭💕
List of Disney Channel actresses/singers who didn't sign to Hollywood Records: Lindsay Lohan (Casablanca Records), Olivia Rodrigo (Geffen Records) & Ashley Tisdale (Warner Bros. Records)... Are there any other Disney Channel singers who did not sign to Hollywood Records? (Please answer me if someone knows 😅😅😅)
tbh i kinda think sabrina carpenter is having her breakthrough moment and im happy coz shes deserved this for the longest time mainstream now
It was only a matter of time. Losing it’s relevance
So glad Olivia Rodrigo & Sabrina Carpenter & Dove Cameron are all having multiple hit songs & albums!
Doves team is doing her so dirty 😭👊
Dove has no hit albums lol tho Boyfriend is a bop
Def agree on Sabrina & Olivia but I can't forgive Dove for deleting all her past music that I loved! Yes, I will forever be bitter about it😭.
LOVE UR VIDS!
I love my Disney pop girlies.. but the only one I will ride for, 100%, till the very end, is Bridgit Mendler.
I loved the radio Disney radio channel when I was in my teens (mid 00s) I even won a few competitions on it!
I miss that era lol
Do you think we’ll ever get an era like that again?
@@FunFactswithAmani Absolutely not. I think because of social media, but this is my unprofessional opnion.
@@DamagedYasa yeah I don’t so either because I’m what world we will ever get Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Demi lovato, zendaya, Raven Symone, Hillary Duff, etc again.
I think sabrina has potential though !
I love that Sabrina Carpenter got her first top 10 hit w/ Espresso. I honestly think it could be the song of the singer & a number hit & make her grammy nominated next year ... I mean like she could possibly win a grammy next year. I agree w/ everything Honest said about The death of Disney stars & I think Sabrina is the last one. I also like Honest's breaksown of the good & bad things of Disney popstars.
I think the best thing a star could do is to not sign with Hollywood Records. I definitely think the Disney Machine is dying, but it's not done yet. I think 1 or 2, maybe 3 more "Artist" might come out of Disney, but I think Only one of those would be a "superstar" in the likes of Demi Lovato. Olivia Rodrigo is the newest edition. I think Kylie Cantrall will see success in some form in the music world. She has been releasing music while on Disney, on its decent music. I think she might have a chance because I don't think she's signed to Hollywood Records, most of her promotions seems to be self-driven. Most of the promotion Disney gives her is for her acting projects, not her music. She has the vocal talent and seems to have good songwriting abilities (or a good team of writers), and she seems to have a "princess of pop" type of energy which could translate into mainstream pop very well. However, because she's not getting the major musical promotion, she might not blow up until after her Disney days, or if she does blow up while on Disney, she might have stunted success. Dove Cameron has already moved into her mainstream pop era, and I feel like she will continue to grow, but she won't ever be "Demi Lovato's Level" of Stardom. She's still acting too (not on Disney), so she might be one of those stars who is known for both, but I'm not sure if her music will be "icon status" anytime soon, she's having more of a slow rise in popularity. Sofia Wylie will probably be another Zendaya because she's done some music and it's good, but she doesn't seem too focused on the music, but she also hasn't done much acting outside of her Disney work, so only time will tell where she goes.
selena is the most successful out of all of them loll girl has a multi bill company, record breaking music career, award winning shows...
Bro I thought somebody died 😭
Biggest stars who began their careers are Britney and Christina ❤❤
I can say one thing about them all… they all had bops!
It's the fall off of Hollywood records
that thumbnail is giving weezer
can you provide the sources for your references?? Im interested in the part where selena gomez hates her old albums under hollywood
So much nostalgia
zendaya could be a main pop girl if she wanted to be in present day, shes literally zendaya. she's openly said that she doesn't like how strict and flawed the music industry is, and only likes making music when she wants to, and lately only makes music for the shows and movies shes in.
True. But Zendaya the movie seems to be the main priority over Zendaya the popstar.
@@Senate300 I’m just saying if she ever wanted to be a main pop girl, it wouldn’t be that hard, especially compared to most people.
@@Ilovebrushingmyhorse No doubt. From her Nickelodeon days she had the foundations set for that route, But Z went down the path of a serious actress and thanks to Euphoria, people started to take notice.
@@Senate300 yeah I agree about euphoria, I think her portrayal on that really helped build how she’s perceived in the public eye. I think she’s a rare case as a celebrity. Most people who keep up with her consider her an icon at this point. If not as an actress, as a person, if neither, they consider her a fashion icon. She’s classy, smart, talented and unproblematic. She’s perceived how a lot of celebrities and influencers strive to be perceived as, and does it effortlessly. So given the status she’s developed, I have no doubt she’d dominate the music industry, and would end up as popular as Taylor swift tbh. Btw it was Disney, not Nickelodeon lol
@@Senate300 basically, I feel like everything zendaya is good at doing, she somehow manages to make a name for herself when she does it. I think she’d fit right in the music industry.
Since you weren’t huge on Demi Lovato’s mainstream pop stuff, what did you think of her more recent pop rock material? Or even their relaxed music from 2021?
The golden era of Disney Channel ❤ I just wish they weren't so miserable off-screen. They literally sacrificed their own teenage years/mental health for our entertainment.
I honestly feel like the Disney machine is still very much in use but instead of the company being the main factor what direction a stars career goes now it’s more in the stars hand especially with Disney plus being basically the replacement of caple disney and how Olivia rodrigo came up and how we have social media I feel like disney can still make stars staring in whatver popular on disney plus and If the project Involves music I feel like a lot of the stars will use Disney as a stepping stone to get known and in the industry and then they will be smart to sign to a separate music label so they can have that freedom and not be boxed in a just child music genre and since caple tv irrelavent now and we have social media You can be 17 year old star and post and make music that can cater to your age audience and older and not have to worry about if your music and identity and the way you dress has to go with ur character and ur 7-11 year old audience unless u want to like jojo siwa
That schedule miley had was crazy. Of course she acted out it (her child life) was WAYYY too restrained
Thank you for referencing Fiona Apple. The music that Fiona wrote and composed as a teenage girl, with Tidal, remains some of the most poetic, wisdom-abundant, and otherworldly music that I have ever heard and that has perhaps ever been made.🖤
i would argue against putting avril lavigne here. she’s said before how she had to fight to get creative control for her debut album and to get the rock influenced sound she wanted. if anything she had less control as an adult with goodbye lullaby due to her label. her fighting for the “let go” sound definitely paved the way for artists like hilary duff who used the same producers and subsequently every disney channel star afterward.
I believe that Disney started "creating singers" after they saw Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, JC Chasez and Hilary Duff slip through their fingers. That's when they really tried to push their "Disney popstars" plan. Btw, I believe that they also tried to replicate the *NSYNC and Britney formula often, because their female singers were soloists most of the time , while their male singers were almost always a part of a mostly male band.
I mean when your entire childhood is based around not having a childhood, then that becomes a losing fade overtime. Its the equivalent of discovering that religion isnt what it's cracked up to be so you stop going to church.
olivia is a disney star tho?
THE BEST THING THAT I LOVE ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕 💘 LOVE ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕 💘 LOVE ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕 💘 ABOUT DISNEY CHANNEL STAR TURNED INTO PRO SINGER'S IS THE FACT THAT THAT ALL BUT ONE OF THE SHOWS DIDN'T/WEREN'T EFFECTED BY DAN SCHNIDER OR ANYONE ELSE LIKE DAD SCHNIDER ❤🎉😮😊
Its Child slavery not entertainment
Olivia is from Disney channel though
yea in acting but music wise she never signed with hollywood records which is the label of all disney popstars so she isn't really a disney popstar
@@angelizespino6776 gotcha
I love Avril Lavigne.
Sabrina tryna be Bratz coded and it won’t work. And Selena needs to release her album already
It is working though..she has a top 10 hit right now. and she does look like a bratz doll, the bratz franchise wants her to play chloe in a live action. your just a hater😂
@@makayla03333WAIT NO WAY THEY WANT HER TO PLAY CHLOE IN THE LIVE ACTION?? i would love that
Once they get up to 18 they aged out and usually want to have more freedom from the Disney label.
Who else watched this video just to hear him talk about Britney, honest never disappoints, he knows to at least mention Britney when talking about Disney pop girls
Thank god. It was fake and gross behavior occurred.
Hilary duff and raven syringe are the two actress I think of Disney channel
Some of these Disney/Nickelodeon stars have good songs but are not good singers. But somehow kept going due to their popularity. Mostly Selena Gomez. But luckily for Selena, she was atleast nominated for a Grammy.
- Hilary Duff gain more creative control over her music by time she released her Dignity album in 2007 (but was also writing her own music as well)
- Aly & AJ had gain creative control with their music and are still successful and writing their own music
- Demi Lovato learned at an early age to write her own music and later gain creative control of her music control. And has been nominated for 2 Grammys
- Miley Cyrus got lucky because her Bangerz Era could've ended her music career. But luckily for her she changed her ways and came back with better music. And now she's a 2 time Grammy winner.
Avril included in this list? LOL 😂😂😂
My single nitpick. Sabrina is still massive, and imo really just starting. Not fair to compare her career of 8 years so far with the now almost 20 years Miley and Demi have been in the game, I’m sure if we give our currently younger artists another decade they’ll be fully different people, let alone artists by then.
Did Lindsay Lohan not count?
Wheres the tortured poets review ?? (Pls dont be scared of the swifties)
It's so bad he is scared the swifties be sending 💀threats to people who say it's bad 😭💀
Hilary Duff is my fav ❤
Same
Miley, Selena & Demi are the golden trinity❤❤❤ i also love the JoBros and Hilary
Fiona Apple? I mean, what else to say. Just her. Done
Backstreet boys ❤❤❤
I mean working a child for 13 hours a day is criminal
Im glad that teen music stars have more creative control but at the same time it sucks that younger peoole/tweens dont have any role models. A lot if what tweens are listening to now is x-rated stuff which speed runs their own sexualization / adulthood and its sad
honestly,
I need to get my brain out of the gutters
Hot take: Demi's Disney music was better
Many people are blaming K-pop for this becasue while Disney songs and style are pretty much the same, K-pop gives more variety, giving the young generation more options.
Im torn because I want tweens to have better role models but overall I dont think children should have jobs especially at that maginitude/ schedule
they are/were all INDUSTRY PLANTS
Early Avril Lavigne hit harder because of her "not like the other girls" persona which needed others to exist prior to her. At some point, she'd call herself the anti-Britney.
she never called herself Anti-britney,and she never hated her.
@@dariarock9754 She called herself the anti-Britney in an interview and shaded Britney Spears several times.
Hilary Duff is my favorite Disney girl besides Christy Carlson Romano, Aly Michalka, Ashley Tisdale and Anneliese van der Pol
Disney Channel aside, I'm afraid we've strayed too far away from the explicitly manufactured elements of being a pop girl. Everyone wants to be the "raw" singer-songwriter and walk the very narrow path Taylor, Lana, Billie, Olivia, etc are on because they're what's popular at the moment. It's not everyone's forte and that's okay! Sabrina and Tate stand out for this reason alone.
sabrina is more up and coming
Sabrina started making music before Olivia
@@mazvitaselemani ok? and... she still is up and coming and still hopefully isn't in her prime YET even though atm she is in her prime
@@user-zc9mr5iv1qshe is in her prime she has potential