@@conalcochranh3274 AND the park service saying it’s impossible that the events are connected given the distance when they literally proved it was easily possible with the help of a ranger. three different agencies displaying extremely bizarre behavior, they were working together to hide something
+Talking_Head 420 did you read that in this obituary? www.legacy.com/obituaries/knoxnews/obituary.aspx?pid=173069814 Can we be sure that this is the same William Martin (father of Denis Martin)?
They called the green berets in because they realized there must be a cave system in the area. Im no expert, but im pretty sure the only people in America we would send into an unknown cave system filled with tremendously strong monsters who can see in the dark would be our most highly trained. Even then, I doubt they ever see or recover anything. I wonder if their job is to exterminate or help protect the creatures
For some reason, the idea of presumably inbred, feral tribes of backwoods people living in the mountains completely unknown to society is more unsettling and spooky to me than Sasquatch.
And utterly a ridiculous theory. I live in this area. The closest to the theory is most likely moonshiners. Probably drunk. Those guys were the equivalent to crack heads in those days. Drunk and making more and selling their brews
There was a boy here in Washington I heard about on the news. The kid went missing in the woods for three days, in pouring, cold, winter rain and survived. He boy evidently travelled something like 25 miles almost entirely up hill. The kid said he slept with a bear that kept him warm and let him ride on it's back. I'd like to see what you think of the story, Bob
@@sakuravodk4803 what man? The boy said bear, not man. Even at that age he can tell the difference between a bear and a man. So what was it? A tamed bear?
An emotion experience that I wish no individual would ever even chance to imagine. I happen to be what now has come to be labeled as an "Empath", defined as one whom is "highly sensitive", and this can actually be quite mis-directing in our era and state if Humans whom are encouraged towards and largely taught "in the Left-brain area", (when the focus us singularly on this area it is: highly 3D Logic only, hard right turns, absence in the creative, feelings, emotions, natural intuitive, etc), Right Brain is the Philosophical, Creative, Melodic, Literature, Art, Curves and free flowing, very much in touch with the emotions and FEELINGS/FEELING OF, thus Intuitive and Physchi energies, that which animals use equally to any learned values). The Empath is better defined as having a noticeable and variable degrees of Feeling, Sensing, Knowing, Seeing, Hearing, and like all humans, with individual uniqueness. Thus they are somehow dieses stronger in their innate natural traits, some call gifts, but all have, just for one reason or another they are at varying degrees and can very much be shut down *"by thought, learned ideas, largely untrue",* the very manner in which everyone creates their reality begins and is highest influenced by Thought - per Quantum Physics"Universal Law of Attraction". Sensitive denotes its the individuals shortcoming, their weakness, somethin they should overcome. It is more correctly, "senses", as Empaths feel "Facts" and can feel a "description of" and for some it can be overwhelming, it requires Knowledge, Understanding, and for greater purpose Mastering. Thus, this subjects scenario is one I would have been best self-advised to avoid. Tragic and truly sad. ❤
@@eypick6987 the government put itself into the picture. If you look up bigfoot corpses at mount st helens you get a theory (a weird one) that the government knows about bigfoot and is trying to keep it under wraps. People may say things and blame the government for everything but that doesn't mean the government isn't actually doing weird stuff
@@DonovanCoffin according to one of the people who saw the bodies and was part of the army during the clean up. They had translators for bigfoot. If they wanted to hide it it must be because they are intelligent. Intelligent enough to change society on a global scale. The government doesn't want change they want to keep things normal
It's because they had no one experienced in search and rescue at this time. They weren't looking for fucking bigfoot. Research shit for fuck sake. Even the park ranger talks about how they weren't prepared and all the people that were so called helping actually fucked shit up.
Russell Cupples Not true If you consider everything relevant then you’ll start to waste time on things that ultimately don’t matter Time is everything and facts come second
What i love about david paulides is that, at least according to him, he never talks to the family members about supernatural links. He respects that the last thing a grieving father needs to hear is "bigfoot stole your baby"
@@salvagemonster3612 yeaaah after following more closely on Twitter, I'm starting to suspect he's not exactly the hero I chalked him up to be. Never (digitally) meet your heroes
@@conalcochranh3274 never heard about that. Everyday I regret my earlier praise more and more. I still think there's weird shit that goes on in the woods
Honestly sounds like an x files episode, I can easily imagine mulder saying “why are the green Barrett’s investigating a missing persons case?” to Scully
Scully would then say because they were asked to help look for a missing kid. They had a unit training not far away and could bring helicopters as well. Dennis Martin report www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/1969_GRSM_DennisMartin_dissapearance_REDACTED.pdf 
Corvo@AZ green berets are unconventional warfare special forces. The fact they called them in, is even more so troubling. If they needed a unit to kill, they’d call in the rangers or even delta. If they needed a unit to track or monitor, they’d call in marsoc recon or maybe even air force CSAR. However we see the ODA called in. That’s the most bizarre fact alone. Forget the rest of the story.
One of my first memories as a child was my father volunteering for this search. This search was his first, I believe, but he would participate in a number over the years until his heath became prohibitive. He was a veteran of WWII and Korea, an avid outdoorsman, but this incident impacted not only his life but shaped my families as well. He passed his love of the outdoors and in particular the Appalachians along to me and I have in turn on to my children. Because of this disappearance my father took and thought me to take special precautions and to be always evaluating my surroundings. I ask for God’s blessings and comfort for the Martin family and all the families involved and effected.
conal cochranh3 My friend do you need to read the book a case for Christ. Not only is there infallible proof that Christ was everything he said he was and his miracles and actions are so documented that to not believe that Christ is the son of man is more of A leap of faith then it is to believe in him with all of your heart and soul and love him and fear him with all of your power and might. When I hear someone doesn’t believe in God the first thought that comes to my mind is here is someone with either an evil mind or a very small mind that does not have the capacity to conceptualize the belief in our maker. God is the reason why you are here and that is just a simple fact. Trying to prove otherwise will make you a believer in God‘s only son, Jesus Christ. I pray for your ability to open your eyes and expand your mind and stop believing in white man has told you because man will always fail but our Lord Jesus Christ will never for sake us or lead us into the pits of hell. God bless you as much as I suspect you hate hearing that.
@@raydraiz1859 It's funny how you say you think someone is evil and doesn't have an open mind just because they don't believe in God, while you have a very closed minded and low view of someone who doesn't believe in God. Hypocrisy is no stranger to religious zealots.
@@mrwestsida12 exactly! The fact that the green berets came in on their own, refused to even enter the woods with anyone from another agency, were there for a full week, and never disclosed what they found or why they were even there in the first place, is beyond weird.
@@williambuck5617 from what i know the key family asked where they could spot wildlife not a bear ... Secondly they reported that it was feral people who attacked and kidnapped people ... For what i would assume food .. I think the special forces that came in where tasked with eliminating the feral community that resided in those woods with success i believe but im not sure ... It could be dogmen it could a sasquctch but i believe it was really dark humans
This story hurts my heart for these poor parents. What a horrible thing to live through. Loosing a child to death is terrible but loosing them and not knowing where they went is unbearable. I hope they are together again on the other side.
I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains of New York State, the house we built from the ground up over a 13 year period was so far removed we had to charge forklift batteries with a generator to have power as NYSEG the power company in that area would not run lines to our land. Living in the mountains you learn the sounds of nature, the calls of animals, and the familiar noises of people. Then there are times where you hear things you know deep down no human or animal that you know of can make, even when dying. It is almost instinctual, like rocks hitting the bottom of your diaphragm when you hear them, that whatever made these sounds are inhuman at best. There were areas I was forbidden by my parents from exploring even with my rottweiler Mandy at my side. They would never tell me why and in my heart, I am glad I never pushed that envelope.
Bill Billinger what puzzles me is how frontiersman of old never seemed concerned about exploring the dark unknown, despite being armed with single shot muskets and woods full of hostile Indians to boot.
Anyway you can ask your parent's what they were afraid you would run into? I'm very curious and would love to know where and what they were so afraid of?
@@damienhughes1996 I would, were they still with us. I had tried talking to my sister about it, however she only ever came to visit and did not live there so she did not know much about it(different fathers). And growing through my late teens into early 20's after they had sold the house it had hardly crossed my mind to call and ask them about it to be honest.
Did you ever have an experience where the woods all around you suddenly went silent? I'm not talking about just the birds and squirrels and chipmunks as if there's a hawk overhead, but the much more unsettling realization that all crickets, locusts, everything, have gone silent all at the same time, and you realize that you're the only animal you can hear making any noise at all? That's happened to me two or three times, and each time it's like my bladder immediately feels heavy, and I just want to hunker down with my head on a swivel and look everywhere at once.
I seriously cannot imagine why anyone would "hate" David Paulides. He's probably saved lives because of the practical advice he gives for people going into the backcountry.
defuse56 people hate him because they claim he’s profiteering off family’s grief. When someone dies, loved ones often feel that there must be more to it than there really is. And some people claim DP feeds into that. I’m not saying that’s what he’s doing, but that’s what many claim.
@@BobGymlan Good point. Paulides is quite respectful about the victims, but of course, I've no business telling someone who's lost a child or other loved one how they ought to feel. Thanks for pointing it out!
@@BobGymlan Everyone has to make a living. If he exposes weirdness that is happening, or raises questions about the government, or spreads awareness about the risks of remote hiking and whatnot, then he's doing a good service. We don't hate on war reporters or disaster relief organizations just because they take our money (whether outright or from advertising), so why would we hate on Paulides for simply deep-dive journalistic reporting, and connecting a few dots that may, or may not, mean something?
For whatever reason, there is a huge, HUGE, number of people out there in the world and on the internet (amateurs and professionals) who will (sometimes angrily and vehemently) disagree with David Paulides and everything he's researched into or tried to shine some truth upon. Or, they will sometimes run smear campaigns against him and those who agree with or reference him and his Missing 411 works. Hell, I've seen a few comments on Bob Gymlan's videos where some random jerkoff or jerkoffs try to make fun of Bob, or try to run some smear campaign against him for merely referencing David Paulides or the Missing 411. To which, the proper response to those people should be; "Well then, what's YOUR fucking explanation as to how and why people go missing without a trace in the mountains, woods and rural areas of North America? Hmm?" I've asked this question to several of the skeptics and nay-sayers, and to this day, I'm still waiting for an answer.
I still come back to listen to this. The most disturbing and haunting thing about this is picturing the hellish scream the Key family heard. Imagining a bloodthirsty Bigfoot darting through the woods with Dennis Martin slumped over his shoulders (most likely dead with his neck snapped already). It probably let that scream out from the euphoria it felt from being able to snatch the kid out from under the watchful eyes of his dad and family. It was so proud of itself. And now it looked forward to the feast he’s carrying. Just gotta get back to the wilderness away from the humans.
50 years. On the day Dennis disappeared I was about 25 miles celebrating my 4th birthday with my cousins. It could have happened to one of us as we often went and played at Cades Cove. My Uncle helped look for Dennis. Peace to his Survivors and RIP Dennis.
I don’t know what happened, Bob. Turns out Dennis was 4 months older than me. I was nearly abducted approximately around the same time in Nebraska. I ran from the three and it was thwarted. Aside from that, the tragedy of Dennis’ tale haunts me to my core. Rest in Peace Dennis. You are loved and not forgotten.
It is amazing that you almost went missing around the same time as Dennis. In so many words, can you explain why you almost went missing? How do you know, or what exactly happened to you? Was it clear as to who or what was attempting to abduct you?
T Low - This is true whenEVER someone gets 'close' to learning the truth about these 'beings'...they really don't want that reality out in the open. These 'beings' are/have been superior to mere military capabilities...
codpieceofjustice doubt they would’ve chanced it. It’s easy to wave off a kids imagination sometimes but with how strange they were acting by calling military in and FBI with search & rescue before being deemed “missing”, they told half the story- they couldn’t let the kid tell the other half.
I start uncontrollably tearing up every time this case is mentioned. Partially because he's just a kid and partially from the creep factory. It's scary and sad and frustrating.
The FBI and Green Berets!! Man that says it all, something was going down that needed serious man power. Really WTH were those groups doing there? Special Forces doing night Ops in a missing boy case?
@@conalcochranh3274 Regardless of what we're willing to believe, you can't help but see that whatever happened was not something typical. Even if we think we deserve to know, the real question is do we even want to? I feel the same about all the recent Area 51 buzz. Some people say it's just base. Others claim this or that. But regardless, the real question is do we want to know? Is it even safe to know? Is the information in question valuable to foreign governments? It's a lot to consider before you say, "Yes. I want to know."
@@conalcochranh3274 The burden of truth is a heavy one to bear. That's why real friends will hurt your feelings if it means telling you the truth. But even if they're looking out for you, that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. Another thing is that we seek answers with an expectation of what that answer is. It's very difficult and even perhaps pointless to bear that weight if you hadn't decided to bear it no matter what in the first place. The point is, take the person stuff and multiply by billions. If you study something long enough, you will be surprised. And you don't get to choose what the twist is. It's why a lot of people choose not to report unbelievable encounters, be it "Bigfoot" or something else. It's so much to take in that it's easier to ignore it and/or convince yourself you're wrong than it is to adjust to something big. Sorry for being verbose, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested. Or if I said I thought anything about the poor kid's disappearance was typical.
Because it's Sasquache and when they take people they hunt them down and kill them. Just like a bear that is killing people. This is why they searched at night with helicopters. They find them with heat sensors.
Hey Bob Gymlan! I am in the process of producing a Bigfoot documentary and I would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. I am an MIT Graduate with original research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. I am also a practicing attorney. I may be contacted at alinlawoffice@aol.com or (718) 888-9238. I really enjoy your insights and channel. Look forward to speaking with you.
I been born and raised here next to the Everglades all my life and have taken Many trips in, spent days in the swamps and one of the First Rules for myself and friends and family is that we do not go into the swamp without Seriously Severe Firepower, minimum of large caliber sidearm, Rifle, and work knife... If Mr Keyes had had such arms maybe he would have been confident to approach the "shaggy man".... It's when you don't have a gun is when you need it the most.. and a gun in the hand is worth a thousand cops on a phone...
@@koshermoses393rogue8 where do you live? Any person, with any type of self-preservation, would take a weapon in the forest, swamps, Chicago, etc... You are either an idiot or suicidal if you don't consider the risk to yourself. In this case, even if you don't consider yourself, you should consider your child. You don't put them in a situation where their lives could depend on you having a weapon and don't have one.
Dennis Martin was wearing red color shirt. The key family said that they saw something over the shoulder that had the color red. Usually Bob doesn't leave anything out. Thanks for this
This story broke my heart the first time I heard Paulides tell it...im honestly shocked his work hasn't been squashed by the powers that be. Great video and appreciate your channel SO much!!!
They can still discredit it. What would happen to Paulides if the David Icke crowd started choking in their opinions on the topic and supporting Paulides’s work? All “the powers that be” need to do are push the crazies in the right direction and Paulides gets discredited by association. Heck, it’s possible folks in the government simply don’t want all these missing people reports taken seriously because it makes the Parks Services look bad. There might be little to no Bigfoot in the works. Then the feds just have to get us bigfooters involved to discredit Paulides. I mean, I believe in Squatch, but I’m self-aware enough to realize that having the Bigfoot community supporting a cause makes said cause look kooky to most people. It’s an odd thought, but what if we’re the pawns here? Just some late-night ramblings.
yes, I live in the foothills also in Wilkes Co. and I never heard about this until David palates did a story on it. but you did know that the fires you were talking about they say were started by some kids on purpose??
@Little Dorrit_Lisa Yeah, it's always been pricey. I actually grew up off Chapman Highway in South Knoxville. Go up Cumberland Ave. (The Strip), take a right over the Henley Street Bridge....almost there. Was mostly low to middle income. West Knoxville was the wealthy part of town. Haven't been there in a while, so don't know how it is now.
Crying? It downright terrifies me. It probably quickly snapped the boys neck right behind the bush to prevent the boy from screaming and immediately drawing attention. That boy was dead before he left the bush and was carried off into the woods, never to be seen again.
It has been debunked, the witness never seen that at all. There is a radio interview with him on youtube telling his story of that day and he did not see that
@@jarrodbath2375 Looks like they really went all out in searching for Dennis. Up to 1600 searchers, multiple helicopters, dogs, and weeks/months of searching. Really makes you wonder wth happened to the kid.
Well first part is right. Second part..... EHHHHHHJ.... wrong. Their job is not the same as the SEALS. So don’t confuse movies with real life. Ok. Ten years navy my last two years was at a spook base. SEALS, PARA RESCUE AND G green berets. Worked with all. And all three had different jobs.
Wow great document Jarrod Bath, thank you for sharing! It brings even more details about what a huge operation this was and makes it even more unbelievable that this poor kid was never found.
Mr. Gymlan! Proving once again why you are the BEST content creator on RUclips. This is an amazing video sir. Thank you for brightening my morning before a tedious Sunday shift.
Why would you go looking for a bear? Like "Oh yeah, so I got my young son and wife here, do you know where we could find the largest apex predator in North America"?
Honestly man you have cracked the code. You are the best BF related channel on this platform. Lightyears beyond your competition.. one of my favorite subs on RUclips just incredible.
@@drubber007 so all the people he's discovered missing under some of the strangest scenarios imaginable and all the weirdness he's encountered just trying to get FOIA info and being stonewalled left and right is nothing.
@@JJones-cl4dm My point is, he has absolutely no idea as to why any of those people have disappeared. He has just shone a light on the mysteries surrounding them. So yeah it's nothing. No wiser than when he started out.
@@drubber007 I can agree with that. he's definately stumbled across SOMETHING but it's an anomaly with inherently more questions than answers. only questions actually. so I see your point. it's something but it's nothing at the same time. what a mind fuck if you really think on it
I think Bigfoot is real because I had an in counter with one. It goes like this... I live in the north woods of Wisconsin in my cabin deep in the woods. My dog was outside and I was on my bed reading a book. All of a sudden my dog started barking like crazy. It soon turned into wimpiers and yelps soon she was banging at the door trying to get in. When I let my dog in I saw something in the woods. It looked like a bear but it was huge. It stood at 7 feet and had long muscular arms and legs and looked hairy. Three weeks later there was a story of two hunters that saw something about 3 miles from my house they described it like I did.
I remember when bigfoot was so mainstream but the thing is people liked to make up evidence just to support they're stupid claims of bigfoot being seen by them or others. I remember watching "Finding bigfoot" on TV and thinking wow this show is amazing yet I grew up and by growing up I learn to not trust as much and with that I realized how much of a joke the show was. The show was on for year's and they would do the same thing every episode , just to sum it up here is a quick excerpt from what each episode would be. The bigfoot searchers would rally people up and say "who here believes in bigfoot" and after that they would say something like "would you like to tell you're story" and ultimately someone would say yes and blah blah they would tell they're story and after that the bigfoot searchers would go to that location and investigate. Basically every episode was like watching ghosthunters, something would move or yell and they would go to the conclusion that the thing was bigfoot and that's it. No evidence at all, maybe they had a cast of the foot or hair or something but it would never lead to anything. Anyway I want to believe you're story but without proof I can't really say a yes or a no.
Can you describe its facial features? What about its eyes, neck. Chest and shoulders. How was the hair distributed across the body? It would be fascinating to know about any detail you can recall
that random spanner that likes cheese it was hard to make out because of how fast it moved, but it looked like at had a big nose and Large eyes, also the palms of the hands where very define and large.
My dad would always get suowr freaked out when I’d want to go off-trail while hiking when I was a kid and even a teen, especially if we were visiting his parents in Western Carolina. It was always so odd how almost hysterical he’d get and he’s a fairly gruff man unlikely To show much emotion most of the time. One day I asked him if he ever had any weird experiences in the woods after I had my first weird encounter when I was a kid. Then he told me. My dad grew up in the Smokies, and would often go camping near the NC-Tennessee border. It was the 60s and he was like 13 or something when He went off-trail one hike and started to feel uneasy a few miles up into the mountains. There was wood-knocking and something about something peering from behind the trees. Something started to chase him, it caught him, but he’s never been able to tell me the whole story for some reason. The only other detail I ever got is he ran from some cave in the night and was chased again. It was the most he ever ran but he made it back to camp and it didn’t follow him further. He never answers when I ask if that’s why he’d get so worked up if I wanted to off trail or alone, and I’ve always wanted to know what he remembers from those nights, but I know not to push him. Whatever happened was enough to traumatise him so badly he still won’t talk about it almost 60 years later.
@Drake krome well hes not giving any I'll intention, you shouldn't really start bashing his religion Because he wishes the best for someone who has already died long time ago
@Drake krome well of course but it depends how seriously people take their religion that dictates how they will turn out as people, you can say the same thing about atheism and how they would bash any religion Because people choose to believe in a purpose in their lives
@Drake krome well different ways people raise their kids of course but not all religious people are this uptight, I was raised in a religious household but I never try to force my beliefs onto people in fact I see people who preach on the streets angrily saying "god will smithe you all", as idiots. I'm not here to make you believe in religion, all I'm saying is that bashing someone for wishing god to help the person kinda makes it hypocritical, as long as people keep their beliefs to themselves and not push it on to others like the loud extremists you hear everywhere we can actually function as reasonable people. But if someone does go out of their way to force religion like parasites you have the freedom to bash them all you want it's fair game
@Drake krome but the kid is already dead along with the father all people can do now is pray anyways In this situation Because if the entire police force at that time wasnt able to find the kid I'm pretty sure some random dude in the future will not have the same luck
The bringing in of the armed forces definitely indicates an unusual situation with unusual parameters all by itself. Simple fact of the eyewitness of a tall, hair like creature and an accompanying scream seems obvious to us of what it is and in my mind there's no doubt that the Rangers knew exactly what they were dealing with. This is a case that still can be investigated. There's definitely a paper trail and some men in their 70s who are alive today who can still speak to the event.
Philip Berthiaume Not only armed forces, Green Berets. That detail has always been so strange to me. Why call them of all people out on a MP case? There’s another 411 case where they were also called in, and it’s equally lacking a clear explanation. I’ve heard Bigfoot stories where GB are specifically called in related to BF, but those are almost all unsubstantiated beyond the telling of the story itself, this 100% happened and I cannot understand why if we’re talking any known circumstance. BF or not, something strange happened that we have no been told about.
@@Bane_questionmark Perhaps, because Green Berets are army, and probanly the most well-trained for the terrain they were dealing with, which is mountainous. There may still be some Green Berets alive that were sent in during this situation, and others, but good luck finding any that will talk. Still worth looking into, if anyone can figure out who any of them actually were? Also, just because they were dressed like Green Berets, doesn't absolutely mean they were Green Berets. There could very well be a special forces group that deals specifically with situations similar to this particular disappearance.
They certainly could speak out publicly however that would constitute a breach of their security clearance contract and could be imprisoned for the rest of their lives. I was given a security clearance when working at a secret biocontainment bio defense facility and saw something far far more ....interesting than a squatch and ill never talk never id end up with a bullet in the head and what I saw world freak you right the fuck out i still have nightmares about it.
Absolutely excellent. Your narration is spot on with the grisly facts, yet respectful for the life that has been lost. The illustrations enhance the story and keep us on the edge.
I wonder how many times this has happened and if their hunts were successful. Would the government shoot Sasquatch to keep the truth hidden. Yeah, they would.
At the time Mr. Paulides covered this case, he did believe the missing people in his cases were being killed and/or taken by Bigfoot -- he just didn't spell it out. But moving from the Hoopa Project to the Tribal Bigfoot book to the first two volumes of Missing 411, does show a direct pattern. At first, in the Hoopa Project, Mr. P was repeatedly emphatic that the animals or beings he was interviewing the Hoopa tribe about, were non-violent. If I recall correctly (though I may be misremembering), he even excluded tales of any such threatening from his criteria for interviewing eyewitnesses, simply because the tales didn't fit in with most of what he was finding in his initial interviews. This emphasis continued through most of the (much larger) Tribal Bigfoot sequel. But then toward the end, a shift occurs. Mr. P starts running into tribal women who begin hinting that tribal women are being abducted by the creatures and no one wants to talk about it. One of Mr. P's research partners, being a woman herself, was able to get the witnesses to open up more about this topic. This surprised Mr. P greatly. It also bothered his female research partner enough that, if I recall correctly, she quit going out on site inspections (for case research, not to hunt anything), because she felt like she was being targeted. The plan at the end of the Tribal Bigfoot book was to continue this research project with more interviews with other tribes in different national park regions, expanding out from the Pacific Northwest region (which he had already started to some extent). Then that project went dead. And then the Missing 411 series started being released. Wherein Mr. Paulides explained that he got into this topic because while researching on a different topic (of a category unstated) in National Park systems, he was approached by a pair of rangers who had heard about his unstated research on this other topic (i.e. the Tribal Bigfoot interview project), and wished he would put his skills into considering National Park disappearances, too. From which he segued into the core material for what became his Missing 411 research. Now, it's true that Mr. P no longer thinks (thanks to very varying results from his Missing 411 research) that Bigfoot is exactly the answer -- he claims his original (unstated) theory for the disappearances simply doesn't add up with the data, usually. I like to quip, only half-joking, that by now his theory must be fairy Bigfoot aliens! But once upon a time, there was a definite trajectory that led from the Hoopa Project to the first Missing 411 books. And his latest book (after the recent Missing 411: L.A.W.), which I haven't gotten yet, saving it for a free slot in my reading schedule later this year, is a thorough collection of wild-man / ape-man / clearly bigfoot-like stories from pre-modern newspaper accounts in North America. So the topic is certainly still on his mind. And while I have a few critiques of his (Missing 411) methodology, I do appreciate his work, and I think it's important. And I honestly hope someone alerts him of your fine video, and points him to it, as I think he'll like it.
People don't attack someone because they don't believe in something,everybody is entitled to their opinion.The people that have seen bigfoot no the truth,I believe something exists that would shock us all.but it's ok if the next person doesn't believe .
OMG You covered this one! This is the creepiest of the bigfoot stories i've ever heard. I'm so excited to listen to your take!!!!! YOU'RE THE BEST Update: Just listened to all of it. This is the detailed breakdown i was desperately needing for this case. You are way better than Paulides in your logic, breakdowns, and analysis. You covered all the questions that were in my mind, especially the more unlikely theories like the 'feral people' one, which always bothered me. It's just hard to believe that what took Dennis could have been human. You need a patreon or some kind of real funding, we NEED you in this field. You're light years more advanced, objective, and intelligent than anyone out there. Just paypal'ed you for providing your amazing analysis on this most unsettling case.
Totally Agree! I think Bob deserves his own TV/Netflix Series! His approach is far superior to anyone else I have ever seen, read, or listened to. NetFlix will be hearing from me with this suggestion. Please do the same...
With ALL the strangeness of chance involved 1 example of interest went unmentioned. The Key family ask where they could go to view a bear and the ranger sent them to an area where they just HAPPENED to view someone or something on 2 legs carrying an object on it's shoulders. What are the chances that the ranger wouldn't say "Any place is as good as the next" is weird given that in that area any place is in fact as good as the next. The FACT that the Key family seemingly witnessed an obduction in progress by chance is bizarre alone from the fact that they, the Key family, were instructed as to WHERE to go for the purpose of viewing a bear when factually speaking viewing a bear is common throughout the smokies. Thanks again Bob for another outstanding look into the world of the unexplainable.
Not to mention the other 'Martins,' I dont believe in coinscidence, nor do I believe it was chance. Give Me a Fucking break, 3 sets of 'Martin' families? ...Please. The other 'Martins' were likely plants or military themselves to guide the situation? Why?
I made the journey to spence field from Massachusetts i had to see the area.a lot of people don't know there is a network of tunnels under the smoky mountains
Deorr Kunz Jr. was a young boy who vanished from a remote camp in Idaho a couple years ago. The parents were attacked pretty harshly but I’ve researched the case fairly extensively and I found nothing to support the idea that the parents were responsible. It reminds me a lot of this case.
Bob, your greatest work! Congratulations. I will become a sponsor. I met Dave Paulides at a conference on paranormal stuff. Clearly a good man. And I have read several of his books and his account of poor Dennis Martin. I also read a book sold at Cades Cove by someone at the CC shelter near the parking lot to the entrance to Cades Cove's loop road (a book of the 6 missing persons stories in GSMNP. Paulides is a former police officer/investigator. His reputation is grounded, fortunately, in that work. The minute - the second - he strays into the speculative world he risks undermining his well-rooted-in-facts background. I applaud him for sticking to the facts and let us spectators speculate until the cows come home. Finally someone (Bob G) has spoken the full truth about poor Dennis Martin and his sad family. Feral people does seem a stretch. But in 1977 I dated a girl who grew up in east TN and "Deliverance" (movie) had come out in 1972. So I asked her if there was some truth and she was adamant that one did not go driving or God forbid hiking in certain areas. I ended up visiting her home and it was remote. I wish I knew what town it was near but I don't recall. Then I might be able to connect the dots to the Dennis Martin case. I am extremely well read on Bigfoot to the point of my many siblings thinking I have "lost it" in my old age. Here are the only things I could "add" to Bob's excellent compilation. One of the Search and Rescue (SNR) people was a guy named McCarter who was considered one of the best human tracker's around and he really knew the Park. He characterized the Dennis Martin case as the most perplexing cases and (in my words) caused him much grief. He believed that it was a feral mountain man. But did he, like Paulides and just about everyone involved in SNR have to "be careful". After all anyone back in 1969 or after, that would have started speaking in public about an (e.g.,) 8 foot tall Bigfoot (and remember this is 2 years after the filming of "Patty" by Patterson/Gimlin) abducting a child would have been vilified and lost his job. Imagine, if this had caught on and built up a full head of steam in the public's eye what this would have done to the entire national and state park systems. Today there is a BF researcher, Scott Carpenter, who is still getting incredible but admittedly somewhat odd pictures of BF in east TN. I camp almost annually in CC and go hiking alone and it is not without an element of fear NOR without several cans of bear spray repellent. Just in case. What's not hypothesized here is the possible use of infra-sound. Maybe Mr. Martin didn't take his eyes off of his son. After all there were a lot of pairs of eyes involved and unless we explore the supernatural possibilities or underground caves/tunnels as an escape route, how did such a large creature take a child in a seemingly open area (from behind a bush). I believe that BF does have infrasound capabilities and simply makes "sounds" that we don't hear that temporarily confuse people - thus there is a blip in their perception of reality that doesn't stand out as anything. Kind've like the time I passed out cold, due to an inflammation in my brain. There was no warning. I was conscious/normal then I was on the floor with people trying to help. I had no awareness of how I got from "here to there". A perfect mechanism for capturing a prey. Finally, it is fairly well documented that indigenous American Indian's would kill or kidnap European settlers. This was likely for slavery or for sex/reproduction. For example, the story of Sacagawea who accompanied Lewis and Clark was one of abduction by Indians of another Indian. One true story I read from early 1800' where a young boy and others were kidnapped. His mother eventually escaped. That boy was raised as an Indian and that was pretty much all he knew. Years later contact was made with him by his family and it wasn't like he immediately wanted to go back "home". Home was with the Indians. Some American Indians viewed the Sasquatch as just another Indian Tribe. I recently met an American Indian and when he was much younger (Oklahoma) his elders talked about BF as being human and that they interacted years ago and had a common speech. Others had said the same. And of course, Bob has reported that the minister Elkanah Walker recorded (1841) that the Indians in the Washington State area had a "myth" about giants who were "men (women and children) stealers" - for food? companionship? reproduction? There are other stories in Mr Paulides amazing collection that indicate where a child was taken and apparently not for food or by a human. The one were a couple sees a child in a cliffed area that no human could have reached without technical climbing equipment and just like in the Martin case this couple later recognized this was the child reported to have gone missing at the same time and was in the same color of clothing. They were stunned to see a young child in such a precarious place and then suddenly the child was quickly moved back (how ?) away from the cliff and out of sight. Is it possible that BF like other species knows not to inter-breed and so it kidnaps a close species for breeding purposes like human's have done? American Indians, I have read, would marry outside of their tribe to avoid inter-breeding. Is it possible that poor Dennis Martin is actually still alive today living somewhere with a BF "family" - he would be about 56 years old. Much stranger than fiction. Too unbearable to fathom. Proof of anything? No. But a wonderfully interesting set of dots that connect easily and mysteriously - presenting still more questions than answers. Clearly the government knows about BF. Clearly the park service people knew to keep their mouths shut. Isn't it clear that if my girl friend who grew up in that area knew about mysterious dangers in the woods might it be that rangers and other employees tell their stories and hand down stories from the past. That is why they sent the Green Beret, armed via helicopters and searched primarily in the night. Keep up the great work Bob.
Little O , I think one of the reasons those deep woods hillbilly types are so dangerous, especially back then, were the moonshine stills they had going. (now it's pot plants)As a kid I lived 80 miles NE of where Dennis Martin went missing. They'd display the stills the police busted up on the front lawn of the courthouse back then. Looking back now I shudder to think of the countless hours I spent wandering all alone in the woods of those hills, I was a extra small kid for my age, but I never told anyone where I was going. I never saw a deer, much less a bear, come to think of it, never saw or heard any wildlife. But at CC we were surrounded by skunks, they were use to visitors feeding them. I think sometimes BF may take kids if a female can't have one or lost one, although the chances they'd survive long in those conditions wouldn't great. P.S. No one, no matter how inbred backwoods they are, would be wearing FUR in June there!
Little O, I think you're on to something and I agree with you. However, I also believe that not all of the disappearances are due to BF. I think that's limiting and rules out other possibilities. Remember the story of the farmer who disappeared in his field while his family watched from the front porch of their house? They never found him, yet at the spot where he disappeared, they could hear him until day by day his voice became weaker and weaker until one day it was gone and he was never heard from again. And we all know of sick individuals in our society that prey on the vulnerable and the strange ways they may use to disguise their crimes. I do believe that the Key family saw a BF that day and submit that was the purpose of the green beret's presence. I think that may have been the FBI's reason for being there, also. Because it may have been true and they have their own agendas, as we have painfully discovered (in today's world).
The most unsettling thing about this whole story is the fact that the other family that approached them said they were also named "Martin", after they were asked. What are the odds of that being true and why would they suddenly want to hang out..
I always thought that was suspicious too, but I'm generally less social than the average person. If it were the human predator angle this could have been a clue. Predators work in groups and often use women and other "safe" people like families to lure people into a false sense of security.
I believe thats exactly what it was... a meal that would put up NO fight. This is the one case of sasquatch i believe could be authentic. The green berets being there says it all.... i believe the park rangers knew it was there and dont want to admit it. I also believe they're the ones who called in heavy hitters to get rid of it. National guard, fbi, green berets...... all for a missing child but park rangers dont tell the father about details that are extremely important and refuse to meet the key family to go to the exact location the "thing" was seen carrying something? Bullshit! They knew he wasnt gonna be found! Something without a doubt was going on and being covered up. I just hope if dennis did meet his untimely death out there that the boy didnt suffer. Very sad
Though the passive nature of the creature in the Keys' account is a tad questionable. It could be an instance of unstable fostership, like a real life Tarzan. Creature loses offspring, takes child as surrogate.
It happens in the wild, almost all predators attack young. Big cats are known to attack offspring, sometimes as they are just born espc. if it is desperate. Its the same thing, easy prey, one that wont put up a big fight and is light enough to carry quickly away from the scene. Typical predatory behaviour. They look for the weaker prey first e.g. the sick, wounded or young. No need to expel more energy than necessary; besides if you release more energy than gaining from a kill, it isnt all too beneficial or worth it isnt it? Is it because its a human thats its sickening to you? You wouldnt bat an eye if it was another animal. Its nature friend. It aint Zootopia or Lion King. Its just how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Sometimes you gotta realize we arent always at the top of the food chain.
Bob, this was an excellent episode!! I've read/watched several takes on this sad, confusing story, but yours was the most comprehensive!! Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
Ive been waiting for you to do some kinda coverage on this for a while now. I'm a Aboriginal Native of british Columbia living on Vancouver island(Ape island) for my whole life now. We live @ the base of a mountain & these things make their stick structures right in our back yard & throw rocks nd stuff @ our house nd windows. our tribe and most others know these creatures as child and women stealers
you havn't? well many bigfoot reseachers & historians call it ape island because of the bigfoot sightings & interactions that have been recorded since the early 1800's@@fredflintstone6338
@@fredflintstone6338 tis what I've known it as. My family has similar happenings in their property on western Washington. Wet (dew) prints on the covered deck, slaps on the side of the home, predictable vocalizations, for example.
... Are they more likely to bring up the boy, as one of their own, latter breeded with etc. Or indeed, a food source, depending on circumstance etc :( ?.
@@DJJAW11 Deer and other wild life creatures are harder to catch than a small boy but why risk it for food? These creatures must know if they take one of us the woods are full of us for the next few weeks at least. They also know that some of us can find and kill them. The boy must have been very important to them to risk giving up their location and risking the tribe or family. These creatures are not stupid.
I've lived in the area all my life and been in these woods all my life I'm forty years old and I will tell you I will never go into these woods unarmed ever and nobody else should either
The narrative here is substantially different than that presented by The Missing Enigma here on RUclips. Anyone who watches this should check out the alternative narrative. I am a fan of this channel but I am fairly certain that David Paulides has omitted crucial information from his work, he is an author in the business of selling books after all.
Ever since first hearing this story from David and every time since I can’t help but thinking that this is one of most horrific abductions I’ve ever heard of. Nothing adds up outside that Dennis was abducted and whatever did it was likely not of the usual suspects due to the way it was handled by “investigators” and the eyewitness accounts. I mean it just breaks my heart seeing that young mans photo knowing he likely met a ghastly end. Thank god for David Paulides and you too for getting this info out in such a thorough way as their is no time limits on the relevancy of child abductions and failures of our Park Rangers in sufficiently protecting and/or looking for that little guy. I just cant imagine .....
I know the Dennis Martin Story was over 50 years ago in 1969 , but here I am in 2023 with A 7 year old Son , and it makes my heart ache hearing this sad sad story my Stomach wrenches thinking of little Dennis Martin Story I send Prayers 🙏🏼for little Dennis & his Dad and Family …
Bob... I think the agencies (parks, FBI and the army) were working together. Consider that Green Beret hunter/killer squad... it's 1969... they are fresh Vietnam vets. They know how to track and how to kill. It's compartmentalized. The parks dept had their role. The FBI had their role and the hunter/killers had their role. They didn't intermingle. They were orchestrated to suppress a story that would've shook a nation and kill a creature that was now revealed as a child killer. The father had to be kept in the dark. The witness needed to be delayed and quarantined and the media had to mollify the facts into something that was digestible to the public. I could go on... but this took a maestro and a lot of specifically worded NDAs. They did find it. They did kill it and routed out the others and destroyed the evidence. And all the involved agencies now have plausible deniability.
Rob, I believe you're right. And, unfortunately, that poor little boy was probably already dead (whether it was intentional or not) when he was found. Wonder what the government did with him?
@@winniewiggins3518 I "speculate" that they conducted a standard clean up operation and cremated his remains. I agree that the boy was (probably) dead before he was removed (stolen) from the scene. From a governmental point of view... they needed to suppress it entirely. (Speculation)
They wouldn't have had to kill the Sasquatch nor would the child have been taken if they just told to public to take precautions in areas where these creatures live. This may be obvious but it almost sounded like you were implying what they did was right, which it clearly wasn't.
This is one of the most frightening true stories l have ever heard. That poor frightened little boy and the suffering his family went through and are probably still going through. It sounds awfully like a Bigfoot but l wonder would they kill a child, from watching videos about Bigfoot they seem to run and hide from people. My heart goes out to the family, not knowing what has happened to there son.
This has many similarities to the boy most recently found but was taken care of by a bear 🐻. The difference is the little boy was found alive. Bob can you look into doing a piece on this recent case?
I have looked into it. There’s nothing there that you haven’t heard. Plus, I have no desire to drag the boy into this world forever. Perhaps he’ll return to it once he’s old enough to make that decision.
Paulides describes quite a number of young kids who have similar experiences. If you are to open to the possibility of a large bipedal woodape, these are not especially surprising. Yet it doesn't explain many other strange disappearances in the Missing 411 books. Bigfoot might explain some. But no where all these odd disappearances.
David Paulides' books and interviews always seem honest and straightforward too me. His lack of conclusion is troubling but I have heard him say he understands how it is for his readers. Someone knows the answers so we need to determine who would be the most likely is these cases , locate them and "encourage" them to spill the beans.
You can't conclude what you don't know. Paulides is very honest about that. He is willing to rule out. He isn't willing to rule in. That is the proper position.
Paulides' list of commonalities from all disappearances: Abductions always occur during days or nights of the week. Often victims are not wearing gloves, earrings, or long underwear Victims always have hair or a lack of hair All abductions occur on a day of the month that is a multiple of 1 or 2 89% of the cases involve syrups (including honey and molasses) and or cassette tapes Most victims have a family member or friend named Robert, James, or Karen Many victims last names contain the letters E S F and less commonly but still worth mentioning: W All of the victims did or did not have shoes on when found Some of the victims had visited Europe at some point and the ones that didn't would have liked to Most of them were standing, sitting or walking when last seen And most strikingly: Every single one off the victims were of below average, average or above average intelligence
I always found this case to be both intriguing and disturbing. From everything we know or have heard about this case it does seem that something out of the ordinary occurred. Thank you so much, Bob, for covering these types of stories with such professionalism and compassion. Keep up the great work, my friend!
I watched this video a few days ago, listened to Paulides talk about it and then went to some sceptic channels. What strikes me about the expanded Keys account is that Mr Key says he heard a child shout for help, followed by the scream then a dishevelled man went by himself and his family and got into a White car that was parked next to the road. Seems rather odd that one he didn't say anything to the dishevelled man and two that this account is made years/decades later. It also struck me particularly strange that Mr Key's daughter, during one of the interviews, stated that her father was a brave war era guy and served in the military and if he thought a child was in danger he'd have been straight to them. Something does not add up and the emphasis they put on this made it seem like guilt to me. Could be reading to much into it.
The treatment of the Key's report is really strange. My first thought within the "normal" spectrum of possibilities was that the figure they saw could have been someone wearing a ghillie suit. That's also how someone could have been very close to the Martins without being visible, since a good ghillie can make someone completely undetectable at very close range. There's also the possibility that someone could have snatched the boy and had some sort of faster transport such as a bike to cross a greater distance more quickly. So the dismissal of the sighting seems very strange and irresponsible to me.
I thought about camo as well but why would someone in camo be screaming in the woods....unless it was Martin boy screaming....this case drives me crazy
Bob, this is an extremely well done presentation. We'll probably never get the answer to the boy's disappearance; but the coincidences of poor record-keeping and lack of obvious investigation and cooperation show too much is hidden 'on purpose'. Keeping people 'dumbed down' Does happen.
How about the ginseng hunter who said he saw bones he believed to be from the Martin boy. He didn't initially report it because he didn't want to be arrested for what he was doing and when he did tell about it, the bones he saw were gone.
@@judywoodard4944 There's not much to tell more than what I said. He was hunting ginseng illegally and found the skeletal remains of a small child in Tremont, he didn't say anything until 1985 for fear of prosecution when they went to investigate, nothing was found, probably because of the time that had passed. He reportedly found the remains a few years after Dennis Martin disappeared.
@@BobGymlan I with you on this one Bob! I think it was awlful cowardly of the man not to come forward sooner, especially when it was a small child involved.
@@OfficialFedHater THANKS for replying back. I still think it was horrible what he did, but I can also understand his concern at that time in our judicial system. We didn't have all the technology that we now have so he probably would have been charged with the kidnapping & murder of that child back then. Even tho it was still an unjust way he went about it. I'm sure he's heard of the word anonymously. Thanks again!!
@@BobGymlan if he was worried about prosecution don't you think he would obviously try to explain why he was out there? No shade bob im an absolute avid fan of your work, some of your videos blow me away but im dissapointed you aknowledge David P's ridiculous claims. If you really look into it he is just obscuring natural events and connecting absurd dots together to make them seem more mysterious than they really are! People go missing in the woods. It just happens.
Baffling points about the case mentioned in the book: After the agencies left (green berets and FBI), the national park authorities called off the civilian search claiming the hundreds of individuals looking for Dennis were "disrupting wildlife" and "damaging the underbrush". When Mr. Martin confronted them stating he still had 200 men waiting to search for Dennis he was told he would only be allowed to bring in 25 people for the search party. Apparently the state of the park is more important than a six year old boy missing. Mr. Keyes said that, after the scream they heard, his son (still covering his years) pointed to a hill covered with tall trees and said "look, dad, a bear!", Mr. Keyes then says he was sure it wasn't a bear, and it immediately started to run up the hill on two legs, carrying something on it's back. Bears can indeed stand on two legs, but run up a hill using only two legs while carrying something over their shoulder as if it was nothing? bears don't do that kind of thing, the way their legs are oriented limits that type of movement.
+Bob Gymlan Brilliant work as always! Your channel just gets better with every single upload. The new artwork is a great addition to your quality research & narration. By far the best RUclipsr dealing with this subject. xxx
Great to see you again Bob Yesterday I got into a car wreck our new Escalade totalled so yeah you uploading a new video is helping brightening up my day
Hey Bob, I have heard and read several versions of this story and Mr. Key was interviewed when he was about 93 and said that he never saw a bear and neither did his daughter or two sons and that he was farther ahead than they were but he and one of his sons heard a scream. He also said he saw a white car when they came up and that there was a man who was walking out of the woods, never said it was carrying anything and he never said he was shaggy or a moonshiner but he was very sweaty. There were also GBs in the area doing training and one of the rangers called them to see if they could assist. It’s NOT uncommon for GBs to help out with searches for missing people or children ESPECIALLY if they are doing training in the area. I love your videos but I feel like this one might have been a little conspiracy theory like than what actually happened. It seems pretty clear from all the information that the guy the was walking to the car had something to do with the boy but we could only speculate since nobody ever got the plate number or make and model. I’d definitely like to talk to you more about this video if you’re open to it.
William Martin passed away oct 31 2014, may he walk with his son once again
@@conalcochranh3274 how does that explain everything else including the bizarre actions of the fbi and berets
@@conalcochranh3274 AND the park service saying it’s impossible that the events are connected given the distance when they literally proved it was easily possible with the help of a ranger. three different agencies displaying extremely bizarre behavior, they were working together to hide something
+Talking_Head 420
did you read that in this obituary? www.legacy.com/obituaries/knoxnews/obituary.aspx?pid=173069814
Can we be sure that this is the same William Martin (father of Denis Martin)?
@@conalcochranh3274 Wait..what are talking about? Did you just write a reply comment to the wrong person?
@@conalcochranh3274 I never mentioned either of those people or the work you're talking about. XD ahaha
"They promised not to speak about their boy to reclaim their lost lives."
People, this is the saddest thing you can hear.
Praying for All the Taken ones...and that any who may somehow be still living...to come back to their family. God only knows. Amen ❤❤❤
Southsideman it’s like he died twice.. once for real and then not to be spoken off 💔
g'dog .... sad very sad...
They said not to talk about him to the press! I’m sure they still talked of him.....don’t be stupid and listen
No it's not the saddest thing ever, not even close.
I think the reason why the Park service didn't suspect foul play was because they already knew what happened.
They called the green berets in because they realized there must be a cave system in the area. Im no expert, but im pretty sure the only people in America we would send into an unknown cave system filled with tremendously strong monsters who can see in the dark would be our most highly trained. Even then, I doubt they ever see or recover anything. I wonder if their job is to exterminate or help protect the creatures
Yeah it’s possible I think a lot of Park service rangers get more reports than a lot people realize.
For some reason, the idea of presumably inbred, feral tribes of backwoods people living in the mountains completely unknown to society is more unsettling and spooky to me than Sasquatch.
And utterly a ridiculous theory. I live in this area. The closest to the theory is most likely moonshiners. Probably drunk. Those guys were the equivalent to crack heads in those days. Drunk and making more and selling their brews
Doesn't Deliverance come to mind?
Oh hell yes.
TheWingmakers 😖
It's just the Murfree Brood
There was a boy here in Washington I heard about on the news. The kid went missing in the woods for three days, in pouring, cold, winter rain and survived. He boy evidently travelled something like 25 miles almost entirely up hill. The kid said he slept with a bear that kept him warm and let him ride on it's back. I'd like to see what you think of the story, Bob
Grimmm 258 and it is there that one discovers that the supposed "bear" is in fact a man. End of the story.
@@sakuravodk4803 what man? The boy said bear, not man. Even at that age he can tell the difference between a bear and a man. So what was it? A tamed bear?
Mark M it was joke dude
Not all men are bad men, not all hairy men are bad hairy men? Id love to read about this...
@@sakuravodk4803 BWA-HAHAHA, that was good.
Let's not forget that it was also Father's Day Weekend. How crushing for him.
@@conalcochranh3274 u ok ?
@@conalcochranh3274 why did your original reply have nothing to do with the comment
@@conalcochranh3274 you need to be medicated
policeeee!
@@tylerperry9517 Jesus...another clown online that wants attention... That dude is pathetic:(
The hell that father went through after it, had to be crushing.
da folker
Exactly!!!
@@conalcochranh3274 Can your provide a source for that story about the little girl?
@@conalcochranh3274 If she was never found them how does anyone know the events leading up to the disappearance? was someone watching her
I feel bad for him but aleast he gets to see his son cause he’s dead
An emotion experience that I wish no individual would ever even chance to imagine.
I happen to be what now has come to be labeled as an "Empath", defined as one whom is "highly sensitive", and this can actually be quite mis-directing in our era and state if Humans whom are encouraged towards and largely taught "in the Left-brain area", (when the focus us singularly on this area it is: highly 3D Logic only, hard right turns, absence in the creative, feelings, emotions, natural intuitive, etc), Right Brain is the Philosophical, Creative, Melodic, Literature, Art, Curves and free flowing, very much in touch with the emotions and FEELINGS/FEELING OF, thus Intuitive and Physchi energies, that which animals use equally to any learned values).
The Empath is better defined as having a noticeable and variable degrees of Feeling, Sensing, Knowing, Seeing, Hearing, and like all humans, with individual uniqueness. Thus they are somehow dieses stronger in their innate natural traits, some call gifts, but all have, just for one reason or another they are at varying degrees and can very much be shut down *"by thought, learned ideas, largely untrue",* the very manner in which everyone creates their reality begins and is highest influenced by Thought - per Quantum Physics"Universal Law of Attraction".
Sensitive denotes its the individuals shortcoming, their weakness, somethin they should overcome.
It is more correctly, "senses", as Empaths feel "Facts" and can feel a "description of" and for some it can be overwhelming, it requires Knowledge, Understanding, and for greater purpose Mastering.
Thus, this subjects scenario is one I would have been best self-advised to avoid.
Tragic and truly sad.
❤
The Green Beret wouldn't be brought in for bear hunting.
Yeah I don’t get the obsession with dragging the government into these cryptids
@@eypick6987 the government put itself into the picture. If you look up bigfoot corpses at mount st helens you get a theory (a weird one) that the government knows about bigfoot and is trying to keep it under wraps. People may say things and blame the government for everything but that doesn't mean the government isn't actually doing weird stuff
@@DonovanCoffin according to one of the people who saw the bodies and was part of the army during the clean up. They had translators for bigfoot. If they wanted to hide it it must be because they are intelligent. Intelligent enough to change society on a global scale. The government doesn't want change they want to keep things normal
It's because they had no one experienced in search and rescue at this time.
They weren't looking for fucking bigfoot.
Research shit for fuck sake.
Even the park ranger talks about how they weren't prepared and all the people that were so called helping actually fucked shit up.
Brilliant!
“This world is strange and you can’t deny” - my grandpa
The Pagan Owl Intelligent man, your grandpa.
Wise, indeed.
That's why I love talking to the elderly...wisdom .
@@conalcochranh3274 why you gotta be an ass
@@conalcochranh3274 what are u talking about, tfs the rats
When a child is missing everything is relevant
Russell Cupples
Not true
If you consider everything relevant then you’ll start to waste time on things that ultimately don’t matter
Time is everything and facts come second
Except logic. Fuck this is lame. Read my post. You'll delete your entire life of wrong.
yea like maybe they made it up and did it themselves??
666 likes?
Imma bump that up a bit
@@conalcochranh3274 oh they're out there...just because you don't choose to believe doesn't make it less real.
What i love about david paulides is that, at least according to him, he never talks to the family members about supernatural links. He respects that the last thing a grieving father needs to hear is "bigfoot stole your baby"
Ahhh that is what he says. Most cases the families are deceased or he can’t track them down. It will come out old Dave is committing fraud again
@@salvagemonster3612 yeaaah after following more closely on Twitter, I'm starting to suspect he's not exactly the hero I chalked him up to be. Never (digitally) meet your heroes
@@conalcochranh3274 I haven't heard of that, just thay he was a cop
@@conalcochranh3274 never heard about that. Everyday I regret my earlier praise more and more.
I still think there's weird shit that goes on in the woods
Even if bigfoot stole the baby.
Honestly sounds like an x files episode, I can easily imagine mulder saying “why are the green Barrett’s investigating a missing persons case?” to Scully
Scully would then say because they were asked to help look for a missing kid. They had a unit training not far away and could bring helicopters as well.
Dennis Martin report
www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/1969_GRSM_DennisMartin_dissapearance_REDACTED.pdf

@@jarrodbath2375 Then Mulder would rebuke and say ''Then why would they refuse to work with local search and rescue to coordinated their efforts?''
British Empire read the report from that link. There was no refusals ???
Corvo@AZ green berets are unconventional warfare special forces. The fact they called them in, is even more so troubling. If they needed a unit to kill, they’d call in the rangers or even delta. If they needed a unit to track or monitor, they’d call in marsoc recon or maybe even air force CSAR. However we see the ODA called in. That’s the most bizarre fact alone. Forget the rest of the story.
@@conalcochranh3274 Gertrude Bramble?
One of my first memories as a child was my father volunteering for this search. This search was his first, I believe, but he would participate in a number over the years until his heath became prohibitive. He was a veteran of WWII and Korea, an avid outdoorsman, but this incident impacted not only his life but shaped my families as well. He passed his love of the outdoors and in particular the Appalachians along to me and I have in turn on to my children. Because of this disappearance my father took and thought me to take special precautions and to be always evaluating my surroundings.
I ask for God’s blessings and comfort for the Martin family and all the families involved and effected.
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Damn I’d always keep my kids very close and guns on me and or them
conal cochranh3 My friend do you need to read the book a case for Christ. Not only is there infallible proof that Christ was everything he said he was and his miracles and actions are so documented that to not believe that Christ is the son of man is more of A leap of faith then it is to believe in him with all of your heart and soul and love him and fear him with all of your power and might. When I hear someone doesn’t believe in God the first thought that comes to my mind is here is someone with either an evil mind or a very small mind that does not have the capacity to conceptualize the belief in our maker. God is the reason why you are here and that is just a simple fact. Trying to prove otherwise will make you a believer in God‘s only son, Jesus Christ. I pray for your ability to open your eyes and expand your mind and stop believing in white man has told you because man will always fail but our Lord Jesus Christ will never for sake us or lead us into the pits of hell. God bless you as much as I suspect you hate hearing that.
@@raydraiz1859 It's funny how you say you think someone is evil and doesn't have an open mind just because they don't believe in God, while you have a very closed minded and low view of someone who doesn't believe in God. Hypocrisy is no stranger to religious zealots.
conal cochranh3 I am your second worst nightmare
Green berets and fbi are you kidding me. I’m not a conspiracy kinda guy but you would be foolish to not think about a cover up
And none of them were working together either.......
@@mrwestsida12 exactly! The fact that the green berets came in on their own, refused to even enter the woods with anyone from another agency, were there for a full week, and never disclosed what they found or why they were even there in the first place, is beyond weird.
@@isitoveryet9525 they were hunting it and someone does not want us to know it even is
@@williambuck5617 from what i know the key family asked where they could spot wildlife not a bear ... Secondly they reported that it was feral people who attacked and kidnapped people ... For what i would assume food .. I think the special forces that came in where tasked with eliminating the feral community that resided in those woods with success i believe but im not sure ... It could be dogmen it could a sasquctch but i believe it was really dark humans
This is the only case I’ve heard of the FBI or Special Forces were deployed to search for anyone missing in the wilderness.
This story hurts my heart for these poor parents. What a horrible thing to live through. Loosing a child to death is terrible but loosing them and not knowing where they went is unbearable. I hope they are together again on the other side.
The father and son are with each other now in the afterlife
I grew up in the Appalachian Mountains of New York State, the house we built from the ground up over a 13 year period was so far removed we had to charge forklift batteries with a generator to have power as NYSEG the power company in that area would not run lines to our land. Living in the mountains you learn the sounds of nature, the calls of animals, and the familiar noises of people. Then there are times where you hear things you know deep down no human or animal that you know of can make, even when dying. It is almost instinctual, like rocks hitting the bottom of your diaphragm when you hear them, that whatever made these sounds are inhuman at best. There were areas I was forbidden by my parents from exploring even with my rottweiler Mandy at my side. They would never tell me why and in my heart, I am glad I never pushed that envelope.
Bill Billinger what puzzles me is how frontiersman of old never seemed concerned about exploring the dark unknown, despite being armed with single shot muskets and woods full of hostile Indians to boot.
Robert Olin ignorance is bliss
Anyway you can ask your parent's what they were afraid you would run into? I'm very curious and would love to know where and what they were so afraid of?
@@damienhughes1996 I would, were they still with us. I had tried talking to my sister about it, however she only ever came to visit and did not live there so she did not know much about it(different fathers). And growing through my late teens into early 20's after they had sold the house it had hardly crossed my mind to call and ask them about it to be honest.
Did you ever have an experience where the woods all around you suddenly went silent?
I'm not talking about just the birds and squirrels and chipmunks as if there's a hawk overhead, but the much more unsettling realization that all crickets, locusts, everything, have gone silent all at the same time, and you realize that you're the only animal you can hear making any noise at all?
That's happened to me two or three times, and each time it's like my bladder immediately feels heavy, and I just want to hunker down with my head on a swivel and look everywhere at once.
I seriously cannot imagine why anyone would "hate" David Paulides. He's probably saved lives because of the practical advice he gives for people going into the backcountry.
defuse56 people hate him because they claim he’s profiteering off family’s grief.
When someone dies, loved ones often feel that there must be more to it than there really is. And some people claim DP feeds into that.
I’m not saying that’s what he’s doing, but that’s what many claim.
@@BobGymlan Good point. Paulides is quite respectful about the victims, but of course, I've no business telling someone who's lost a child or other loved one how they ought to feel. Thanks for pointing it out!
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@@BobGymlan Everyone has to make a living. If he exposes weirdness that is happening, or raises questions about the government, or spreads awareness about the risks of remote hiking and whatnot, then he's doing a good service. We don't hate on war reporters or disaster relief organizations just because they take our money (whether outright or from advertising), so why would we hate on Paulides for simply deep-dive journalistic reporting, and connecting a few dots that may, or may not, mean something?
For whatever reason, there is a huge, HUGE, number of people out there in the world and on the internet (amateurs and professionals) who will (sometimes angrily and vehemently) disagree with David Paulides and everything he's researched into or tried to shine some truth upon. Or, they will sometimes run smear campaigns against him and those who agree with or reference him and his Missing 411 works.
Hell, I've seen a few comments on Bob Gymlan's videos where some random jerkoff or jerkoffs try to make fun of Bob, or try to run some smear campaign against him for merely referencing David Paulides or the Missing 411.
To which, the proper response to those people should be;
"Well then, what's YOUR fucking explanation as to how and why people go missing without a trace in the mountains, woods and rural areas of North America? Hmm?"
I've asked this question to several of the skeptics and nay-sayers, and to this day, I'm still waiting for an answer.
I still come back to listen to this.
The most disturbing and haunting thing about this is picturing the hellish scream the Key family heard. Imagining a bloodthirsty Bigfoot darting through the woods with Dennis Martin slumped over his shoulders (most likely dead with his neck snapped already).
It probably let that scream out from the euphoria it felt from being able to snatch the kid out from under the watchful eyes of his dad and family. It was so proud of itself. And now it looked forward to the feast he’s carrying. Just gotta get back to the wilderness away from the humans.
@kvn1031smh so close minded
@kvn1031 you haven’t seen any evidence at all that’s why
sadly... I think this is exactly what happened..
If wiki leaks / various hacking groups want to do something useful then please get hold of any info releating to this case.
The Kovacs
Exactly!!
The Kovacs this was back in the sixties what exactly are they gonna hack lol?
M481M your dad
but would you believe them if they did
@@luism8612 they could hack the case file's on their version of the missing 411 victims
50 years. On the day Dennis disappeared I was about 25 miles celebrating my 4th birthday with my cousins. It could have happened to one of us as we often went and played at Cades Cove. My Uncle helped look for Dennis. Peace to his Survivors and RIP Dennis.
My dad helped look for him as well he was a Townsend native the town right outside the national park..
I don’t know what happened, Bob. Turns out Dennis was 4 months older than me. I was nearly abducted approximately around the same time in Nebraska. I ran from the three and it was thwarted. Aside from that, the tragedy of Dennis’ tale haunts me to my core. Rest in Peace Dennis. You are loved and not forgotten.
It is amazing that you almost went missing around the same time as Dennis.
In so many words, can you explain why you almost went missing? How do you know, or what exactly happened to you?
Was it clear as to who or what was attempting to abduct you?
From the three What?
Your new illustrator does such a fantastic job 👍
That is a computer . But, yes , they are neat .
IETCHX69 what do you mean?
murlimewes he sure does. I literally couldn’t draw a cloud.
@@IETCHX69 I'm going to second that. What do you mean?
I believe he means that *he* believes that the images are computer generations. Now whether he knows that either way, someone made them, I can't say.
You just don’t get a military response for nothing. They were after the creature for sure. The child, unfortunately, was not the priority.
T Low kid was desd
T Low - This is true whenEVER someone gets 'close' to learning the truth about these 'beings'...they really don't want that reality out in the open. These 'beings' are/have been superior to mere military capabilities...
Makes you wonder what would have happened to the kid if the Govt found him alive
codpieceofjustice doubt they would’ve chanced it. It’s easy to wave off a kids imagination sometimes but with how strange they were acting by calling military in and FBI with search & rescue before being deemed “missing”, they told half the story- they couldn’t let the kid tell the other half.
@@lindavalencia6849 I feel like the soldiers with dogs could merk a bigfoot
I start uncontrollably tearing up every time this case is mentioned. Partially because he's just a kid and partially from the creep factory. It's scary and sad and frustrating.
The FBI and Green Berets!! Man that says it all, something was going down that needed serious man power. Really WTH were those groups doing there? Special Forces doing night Ops in a missing boy case?
@@conalcochranh3274 Regardless of what we're willing to believe, you can't help but see that whatever happened was not something typical. Even if we think we deserve to know, the real question is do we even want to?
I feel the same about all the recent Area 51 buzz. Some people say it's just base. Others claim this or that. But regardless, the real question is do we want to know? Is it even safe to know? Is the information in question valuable to foreign governments? It's a lot to consider before you say, "Yes. I want to know."
@@conalcochranh3274 The burden of truth is a heavy one to bear. That's why real friends will hurt your feelings if it means telling you the truth. But even if they're looking out for you, that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt.
Another thing is that we seek answers with an expectation of what that answer is. It's very difficult and even perhaps pointless to bear that weight if you hadn't decided to bear it no matter what in the first place.
The point is, take the person stuff and multiply by billions. If you study something long enough, you will be surprised. And you don't get to choose what the twist is. It's why a lot of people choose not to report unbelievable encounters, be it "Bigfoot" or something else. It's so much to take in that it's easier to ignore it and/or convince yourself you're wrong than it is to adjust to something big.
Sorry for being verbose, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested. Or if I said I thought anything about the poor kid's disappearance was typical.
@@conalcochranh3274 You raise a good point. I'll have to check that out.
Because it's Sasquache and when they take people they hunt them down and kill them. Just like a bear that is killing people. This is why they searched at night with helicopters. They find them with heat sensors.
@@conalcochranh3274 Whatever you need to tell yourself. Now scurry on along to your FLAT EARTH CONVENTION.
YES!! Drop everything! Bob uploaded a new video!!
Clackamas Sasquatch Merry Clackamas!
@@BobGymlan.. lol.. that's what it feels like everytime I see a new post from you!
Hey Bob Gymlan! I am in the process of producing a Bigfoot documentary and I would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. I am an MIT Graduate with original research published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. I am also a practicing attorney. I may be contacted at alinlawoffice@aol.com or (718) 888-9238. I really enjoy your insights and channel. Look forward to speaking with you.
Andrew Lin I'll have him contact you as soon as possible and no funny stuff👌.
I have no idea how many times I’ve listened to this. God bless you Bob
tminus543 thank you so much. God bless you too.
I been born and raised here next to the Everglades all my life and have taken Many trips in, spent days in the swamps and one of the First Rules for myself and friends and family is that we do not go into the swamp without Seriously Severe Firepower, minimum of large caliber sidearm, Rifle, and work knife... If Mr Keyes had had such arms maybe he would have been confident to approach the "shaggy man".... It's when you don't have a gun is when you need it the most.. and a gun in the hand is worth a thousand cops on a phone...
Fucking pussy... Scared of the woods...born and raised in Florida and u sound like a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiotch
@@koshermoses393rogue8 Even David Paulides suggests going armed into the woods.
@@koshermoses393rogue8 where do you live?
Any person, with any type of self-preservation, would take a weapon in the forest, swamps, Chicago, etc...
You are either an idiot or suicidal if you don't consider the risk to yourself.
In this case, even if you don't consider yourself, you should consider your child. You don't put them in a situation where their lives could depend on you having a weapon and don't have one.
and you're a Martin......... get a grip, a gun wasnt gonna help that guy go up to Sasquatch!
@@koshermoses393rogue8 I guess they don't have bears in Florida..
These drawings are awesome, it breathes life into visuals and helps inmerse the viewer. Props to whoever made them!
Voivoda Dracula ain’t he Amazing? Dreadfunn is his channel. Found him on RUclips.
Dennis Martin was wearing red color shirt. The key family said that they saw something over the shoulder that had the color red. Usually Bob doesn't leave anything out. Thanks for this
This story broke my heart the first time I heard Paulides tell it...im honestly shocked his work hasn't been squashed by the powers that be. Great video and appreciate your channel SO much!!!
Laura AKA ZacZgurl 77 the only reason it isn’t quashed is because he never gives an opinion as to what he thinks happened.
Laura AKA ZacZgurl 77 I appreciate you too :)
They can still discredit it. What would happen to Paulides if the David Icke crowd started choking in their opinions on the topic and supporting Paulides’s work? All “the powers that be” need to do are push the crazies in the right direction and Paulides gets discredited by association. Heck, it’s possible folks in the government simply don’t want all these missing people reports taken seriously because it makes the Parks Services look bad. There might be little to no Bigfoot in the works. Then the feds just have to get us bigfooters involved to discredit Paulides. I mean, I believe in Squatch, but I’m self-aware enough to realize that having the Bigfoot community supporting a cause makes said cause look kooky to most people. It’s an odd thought, but what if we’re the pawns here? Just some late-night ramblings.
I'm surprised Paulides hasn't come up "missing".
I live in the foothills of these mountains and I’ve never heard this story, thank you. There’s something not right about our recent fires either.
yes, I live in the foothills also in Wilkes Co. and I never heard about this until David palates did a story on it. but you did know that the fires you were talking about they say were started by some kids on purpose??
@@findingout8688 Yes it was intentional. Children of very astute wealthy people. They hardly got a smack on the hand.
Yeah, I'm from Knoxville and have heard a couple Bigfoot stories but not this one. Hope Gatlinburg grows back...man, that was something.
@Little Dorrit_Lisa Hey! Bearden! Beats Farragut huh? Hahaha!
@Little Dorrit_Lisa Yeah, it's always been pricey. I actually grew up off Chapman Highway in South Knoxville. Go up Cumberland Ave. (The Strip), take a right over the Henley Street Bridge....almost there. Was mostly low to middle income. West Knoxville was the wealthy part of town. Haven't been there in a while, so don't know how it is now.
Dude when he said it was carrying something I couldn’t help but start crying, I don’t cry much but this hit me in some way.
I agree. We all have a good idea what it was carrying and probably why
The bigfoot was carrying the boy
Crying? It downright terrifies me. It probably quickly snapped the boys neck right behind the bush to prevent the boy from screaming and immediately drawing attention. That boy was dead before he left the bush and was carried off into the woods, never to be seen again.
It has been debunked, the witness never seen that at all. There is a radio interview with him on youtube telling his story of that day and he did not see that
@@cutekanjii it was an entire family not just one guy
Always excited to see a new video from Mr. Gymlan. Thanks bob keep up the great work.
As a great grandpa this what a true Horror story is. Fiction can't come close.
His father and grandfather died, never knowing exactly what happened, and most likely outliving him. They never got to bury him.
This happened in the 60s.. do you not comprehend?
@@scheide17 Were you born dumb or you did a course?
Because it is half truth half fiction
The green berets don’t come in to find a. Missing boy they come in to kill something or someone
macgrubber100 not true in this event.
www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/1969_GRSM_DennisMartin_dissapearance_REDACTED.pdf
@@jarrodbath2375 Looks like they really went all out in searching for Dennis. Up to 1600 searchers, multiple helicopters, dogs, and weeks/months of searching. Really makes you wonder wth happened to the kid.
Well first part is right. Second part..... EHHHHHHJ.... wrong. Their job is not the same as the SEALS. So don’t confuse movies with real life. Ok. Ten years navy my last two years was at a spook base. SEALS, PARA RESCUE AND G green berets. Worked with all. And all three had different jobs.
Wow great document Jarrod Bath, thank you for sharing! It brings even more details about what a huge operation this was and makes it even more unbelievable that this poor kid was never found.
@@salvagemonster3612 So you think they were just search and rescue? Or there to hunt and destroy?
BOB HAS POSTED... LIFE ON HOLD FOR 27 MINUTES...
PS: No sarcasm intended. Dead serious.
I will continue to work, but yes, Bob posts, I click. His story telling is impeccable.
@@youKnowWho3311 Absolutely!
haha same
I feel the same way
Mr. Gymlan! Proving once again why you are the BEST content creator on RUclips. This is an amazing video sir. Thank you for brightening my morning before a tedious Sunday shift.
Why would you go looking for a bear? Like "Oh yeah, so I got my young son and wife here, do you know where we could find the largest apex predator in North America"?
Lol
Hahaha
It would be a stretch to call black bears as "the largest apex predator in North America". To humans, blakc bears are mostly giant raccoons.
Honestly man you have cracked the code. You are the best BF related channel on this platform. Lightyears beyond your competition.. one of my favorite subs on RUclips just incredible.
83Henno high praise indeed. Thank you so much!
At first I thought you meant boyfriend by BF.
Because I can oh boy.
Agreed, Henno, this is the only channel of this type I subscribe to. Bob does a great job and is entertaining to boot.
Try Bedtime Stories as well
David paulides is definitely on to something I've been following him for awhile
The fact is that he isn't. He's nowhere near getting "on to something" than he was when he started. He would be the first to admit that.
@@drubber007 so all the people he's discovered missing under some of the strangest scenarios imaginable and all the weirdness he's encountered just trying to get FOIA info and being stonewalled left and right is nothing.
@@JJones-cl4dm My point is, he has absolutely no idea as to why any of those people have disappeared. He has just shone a light on the mysteries surrounding them. So yeah it's nothing. No wiser than when he started out.
@@drubber007 I can agree with that. he's definately stumbled across SOMETHING but it's an anomaly with inherently more questions than answers. only questions actually. so I see your point. it's something but it's nothing at the same time. what a mind fuck if you really think on it
Same
I think Bigfoot is real because I had an in counter with one. It goes like this... I live in the north woods of Wisconsin in my cabin deep in the woods. My dog was outside and I was on my bed reading a book. All of a sudden my dog started barking like crazy. It soon turned into wimpiers and yelps soon she was banging at the door trying to get in. When I let my dog in I saw something in the woods. It looked like a bear but it was huge. It stood at 7 feet and had long muscular arms and legs and looked hairy. Three weeks later there was a story of two hunters that saw something about 3 miles from my house they described it like I did.
I remember when bigfoot was so mainstream but the thing is people liked to make up evidence just to support they're stupid claims of bigfoot being seen by them or others. I remember watching "Finding bigfoot" on TV and thinking wow this show is amazing yet I grew up and by growing up I learn to not trust as much and with that I realized how much of a joke the show was. The show was on for year's and they would do the same thing every episode , just to sum it up here is a quick excerpt from what each episode would be.
The bigfoot searchers would rally people up and say "who here believes in bigfoot" and after that they would say something like "would you like to tell you're story" and ultimately someone would say yes and blah blah they would tell they're story and after that the bigfoot searchers would go to that location and investigate. Basically every episode was like watching ghosthunters, something would move or yell and they would go to the conclusion that the thing was bigfoot and that's it. No evidence at all, maybe they had a cast of the foot or hair or something but it would never lead to anything.
Anyway I want to believe you're story but without proof I can't really say a yes or a no.
Whereabouts in Northern Wisconsin? I heard something strange outside of Hayward one September night a year ago.
Can you describe its facial features? What about its eyes, neck. Chest and shoulders. How was the hair distributed across the body? It would be fascinating to know about any detail you can recall
that random spanner that likes cheese it was hard to make out because of how fast it moved, but it looked like at had a big nose and Large eyes, also the palms of the hands where very define and large.
gxtmfa I live a little north of Hayward near Nelson lake
No matter what happened, multiple government entities know whats going on, nobody has covered this subject as well as you.
Yep...that park brings in over 800 million dollars a year, we'll never what happened.
That poor boy was taken by Sasquatch. His father never got to see what the outcome was and died never knowing. He was a broken man.
And the anniversary is coming up
What year did the boy's disappearance occur?
@@blainwilson7937 1969
We can only hope they are reunited now.
@Black Cherubim Fictional events don't leave multiple eyewitness
My dad would always get suowr freaked out when I’d want to go off-trail while hiking when I was a kid and even a teen, especially if we were visiting his parents in Western Carolina. It was always so odd how almost hysterical he’d get and he’s a fairly gruff man unlikely
To show much emotion most of the time. One day I asked him if he ever had any weird experiences in the woods after I had my first weird encounter when I was a kid. Then he told me. My dad grew up in the Smokies, and would often go camping near the NC-Tennessee border. It was the 60s and he was like 13 or something when He went off-trail one hike and started to feel uneasy a few miles up into the mountains. There was wood-knocking and something about something peering from behind the trees. Something started to chase him, it caught him, but he’s never been able to tell me the whole story for some reason. The only other detail I ever got is he ran from some cave in the night and was chased again. It was the most he ever ran but he made it back to camp and it didn’t follow him further. He never answers when I ask if that’s why he’d get so worked up if I wanted to off trail or alone, and I’ve always wanted to know what he remembers from those nights, but I know not to push him. Whatever happened was enough to traumatise him so badly he still won’t talk about it almost 60 years later.
I need bob to look into that story 😮
JUST A TERRIBLE EVIL THING THAT HAPPENED TO THAT FAMILY.MAY GOD GIVE THEM THE HOPE AND LOVE THEY NEED TO CONTINUE LIFE.
He died a broken man so at this point pretty much to late
@Drake krome well hes not giving any I'll intention, you shouldn't really start bashing his religion Because he wishes the best for someone who has already died long time ago
@Drake krome well of course but it depends how seriously people take their religion that dictates how they will turn out as people, you can say the same thing about atheism and how they would bash any religion Because people choose to believe in a purpose in their lives
@Drake krome well different ways people raise their kids of course but not all religious people are this uptight, I was raised in a religious household but I never try to force my beliefs onto people in fact I see people who preach on the streets angrily saying "god will smithe you all", as idiots. I'm not here to make you believe in religion, all I'm saying is that bashing someone for wishing god to help the person kinda makes it hypocritical, as long as people keep their beliefs to themselves and not push it on to others like the loud extremists you hear everywhere we can actually function as reasonable people. But if someone does go out of their way to force religion like parasites you have the freedom to bash them all you want it's fair game
@Drake krome but the kid is already dead along with the father all people can do now is pray anyways In this situation Because if the entire police force at that time wasnt able to find the kid I'm pretty sure some random dude in the future will not have the same luck
Love the artwork on this video. Really aids the story told. THANKS BG!
ybmagpye thank you kindly. You Sneaky bird you!
Rest in peace little guy. This is a hard one for a dad to listen to.
The bringing in of the armed forces definitely indicates an unusual situation with unusual parameters all by itself. Simple fact of the eyewitness of a tall, hair like creature and an accompanying scream seems obvious to us of what it is and in my mind there's no doubt that the Rangers knew exactly what they were dealing with. This is a case that still can be investigated. There's definitely a paper trail and some men in their 70s who are alive today who can still speak to the event.
Philip Berthiaume
Not only armed forces, Green Berets. That detail has always been so strange to me. Why call them of all people out on a MP case? There’s another 411 case where they were also called in, and it’s equally lacking a clear explanation. I’ve heard Bigfoot stories where GB are specifically called in related to BF, but those are almost all unsubstantiated beyond the telling of the story itself, this 100% happened and I cannot understand why if we’re talking any known circumstance. BF or not, something strange happened that we have no been told about.
@@Bane_questionmark Perhaps, because Green Berets are army, and probanly the most well-trained for the terrain they were dealing with, which is mountainous. There may still be some Green Berets alive that were sent in during this situation, and others, but good luck finding any that will talk. Still worth looking into, if anyone can figure out who any of them actually were? Also, just because they were dressed like Green Berets, doesn't absolutely mean they were Green Berets. There could very well be a special forces group that deals specifically with situations similar to this particular disappearance.
@@Bane_questionmark I'm
They certainly could speak out publicly however that would constitute a breach of their security clearance contract and could be imprisoned for the rest of their lives. I was given a security clearance when working at a secret biocontainment bio defense facility and saw something far far more ....interesting than a squatch and ill never talk never id end up with a bullet in the head and what I saw world freak you right the fuck out i still have nightmares about it.
@@jjay4017 Awe comon man, did you see a scary bacteria? Are you talking about andromeda movie like stuff?
Absolutely excellent. Your narration is spot on with the grisly facts, yet respectful for the life that has been lost. The illustrations enhance the story and keep us on the edge.
You know something is wrong when the Green Berets and FBI are sent for a Bear Hunt.
I wonder how many times this has happened and if their hunts were successful. Would the government shoot Sasquatch to keep the truth hidden. Yeah, they would.
How completely devistating this is! My heart and prayers go out for this family!
At the time Mr. Paulides covered this case, he did believe the missing people in his cases were being killed and/or taken by Bigfoot -- he just didn't spell it out. But moving from the Hoopa Project to the Tribal Bigfoot book to the first two volumes of Missing 411, does show a direct pattern.
At first, in the Hoopa Project, Mr. P was repeatedly emphatic that the animals or beings he was interviewing the Hoopa tribe about, were non-violent. If I recall correctly (though I may be misremembering), he even excluded tales of any such threatening from his criteria for interviewing eyewitnesses, simply because the tales didn't fit in with most of what he was finding in his initial interviews.
This emphasis continued through most of the (much larger) Tribal Bigfoot sequel. But then toward the end, a shift occurs. Mr. P starts running into tribal women who begin hinting that tribal women are being abducted by the creatures and no one wants to talk about it. One of Mr. P's research partners, being a woman herself, was able to get the witnesses to open up more about this topic. This surprised Mr. P greatly. It also bothered his female research partner enough that, if I recall correctly, she quit going out on site inspections (for case research, not to hunt anything), because she felt like she was being targeted.
The plan at the end of the Tribal Bigfoot book was to continue this research project with more interviews with other tribes in different national park regions, expanding out from the Pacific Northwest region (which he had already started to some extent).
Then that project went dead. And then the Missing 411 series started being released. Wherein Mr. Paulides explained that he got into this topic because while researching on a different topic (of a category unstated) in National Park systems, he was approached by a pair of rangers who had heard about his unstated research on this other topic (i.e. the Tribal Bigfoot interview project), and wished he would put his skills into considering National Park disappearances, too. From which he segued into the core material for what became his Missing 411 research.
Now, it's true that Mr. P no longer thinks (thanks to very varying results from his Missing 411 research) that Bigfoot is exactly the answer -- he claims his original (unstated) theory for the disappearances simply doesn't add up with the data, usually. I like to quip, only half-joking, that by now his theory must be fairy Bigfoot aliens!
But once upon a time, there was a definite trajectory that led from the Hoopa Project to the first Missing 411 books. And his latest book (after the recent Missing 411: L.A.W.), which I haven't gotten yet, saving it for a free slot in my reading schedule later this year, is a thorough collection of wild-man / ape-man / clearly bigfoot-like stories from pre-modern newspaper accounts in North America.
So the topic is certainly still on his mind. And while I have a few critiques of his (Missing 411) methodology, I do appreciate his work, and I think it's important.
And I honestly hope someone alerts him of your fine video, and points him to it, as I think he'll like it.
@Ferdinand Vardas what happened ?
I think he does believe that it is some kind of bigfoot creature. But he doesn’t want to ruin his credibility by announcing it
People don't attack someone because they don't believe in something,everybody is entitled to their opinion.The people that have seen bigfoot no the truth,I believe something exists that would shock us all.but it's ok if the next person doesn't believe .
Debbie Wing I agree completely!
OMG You covered this one! This is the creepiest of the bigfoot stories i've ever heard. I'm so excited to listen to your take!!!!! YOU'RE THE BEST
Update: Just listened to all of it. This is the detailed breakdown i was desperately needing for this case. You are way better than Paulides in your logic, breakdowns, and analysis. You covered all the questions that were in my mind, especially the more unlikely theories like the 'feral people' one, which always bothered me. It's just hard to believe that what took Dennis could have been human.
You need a patreon or some kind of real funding, we NEED you in this field. You're light years more advanced, objective, and intelligent than anyone out there. Just paypal'ed you for providing your amazing analysis on this most unsettling case.
tminus543 Bob has an Etsy account to purchase his items, look at his previous videos to learn how to contribute.
Patrick E Yes I sent money through PayPal to him for this episode.
Totally Agree! I think Bob deserves his own TV/Netflix Series! His approach is far superior to anyone else I have ever seen, read, or listened to. NetFlix will be hearing from me with this suggestion. Please do the same...
Beverly DeVry I absolutely agree he deserves one. That’s a great idea, Beverly. Will do, thanks for the suggestion!!
@@beverlydevry6985 This would be the only way I could justify a Netfilx account.... Would be totally worth it though.
So Bizarre...I live just an hours drive away from there. Chilling.
Beautiful country.i hiked up to Spence field when i was visiting the smokies.16 mile hike there and back
*gulp
Those things live underground just like that movie time machine
Michael...
Are you a Sasquatch?
what do you think ? the poor kid really got abducted by " something " ?
This video was so well done. What a tragedy. My condolences to the family.
Im actually the reason his videos are so good
With ALL the strangeness of chance involved 1 example of interest went unmentioned. The Key family ask where they could go to view a bear and the ranger sent them to an area where they just HAPPENED to view someone or something on 2 legs carrying an object on it's shoulders. What are the chances that the ranger wouldn't say "Any place is as good as the next" is weird given that in that area any place is in fact as good as the next.
The FACT that the Key family seemingly witnessed an obduction in progress by chance is bizarre alone from the fact that they, the Key family, were instructed as to WHERE to go for the purpose of viewing a bear when factually speaking viewing a bear is common throughout the smokies.
Thanks again Bob for another outstanding look into the world of the unexplainable.
John Booker's Full spectrum a good point really
@@BobGymlan Good point indeed, one more odd little thing. Put all the oddities together and the situation becomes very very odd.
@@BobGymlan hey Bob you want to kill a sasquatch with me or a moth man bring flamenwerfers light machine guns grenades and a katana I live in NC state
Not to mention the other 'Martins,' I dont believe in coinscidence, nor do I believe it was chance.
Give Me a Fucking break, 3 sets of 'Martin' families? ...Please.
The other 'Martins' were likely plants or military themselves to guide the situation? Why?
@@Mr.8.7.8USCH 2 sets of martins*
I made the journey to spence field from Massachusetts i had to see the area.a lot of people don't know there is a network of tunnels under the smoky mountains
D saint are these tunnels man made or natural caves? Do you have any idea where they are?
@@MrRugercat45 they are moonshiner caves
D saint, sounds like a place to hide
WhaT
Lee Bello, it’s possible for something to hide inside of the tunnels contained inside the Smokies
😭 losing a child. Worst having no closure.
Military father must suspect conspiracy.
How cruel.
Deorr Kunz Jr. was a young boy who vanished from a remote camp in Idaho a couple years ago. The parents were attacked pretty harshly but I’ve researched the case fairly extensively and I found nothing to support the idea that the parents were responsible. It reminds me a lot of this case.
Bob, your greatest work! Congratulations. I will become a sponsor. I met Dave Paulides at a conference on paranormal stuff. Clearly a good man. And I have read several of his books and his account of poor Dennis Martin. I also read a book sold at Cades Cove by someone at the CC shelter near the parking lot to the entrance to Cades Cove's loop road (a book of the 6 missing persons stories in GSMNP. Paulides is a former police officer/investigator. His reputation is grounded, fortunately, in that work. The minute - the second - he strays into the speculative world he risks undermining his well-rooted-in-facts background. I applaud him for sticking to the facts and let us spectators speculate until the cows come home.
Finally someone (Bob G) has spoken the full truth about poor Dennis Martin and his sad family. Feral people does seem a stretch. But in 1977 I dated a girl who grew up in east TN and "Deliverance" (movie) had come out in 1972. So I asked her if there was some truth and she was adamant that one did not go driving or God forbid hiking in certain areas. I ended up visiting her home and it was remote. I wish I knew what town it was near but I don't recall. Then I might be able to connect the dots to the Dennis Martin case.
I am extremely well read on Bigfoot to the point of my many siblings thinking I have "lost it" in my old age.
Here are the only things I could "add" to Bob's excellent compilation. One of the Search and Rescue (SNR) people was a guy named McCarter who was considered one of the best human tracker's around and he really knew the Park. He characterized the Dennis Martin case as the most perplexing cases and (in my words) caused him much grief. He believed that it was a feral mountain man. But did he, like Paulides and just about everyone involved in SNR have to "be careful". After all anyone back in 1969 or after, that would have started speaking in public about an (e.g.,) 8 foot tall Bigfoot (and remember this is 2 years after the filming of "Patty" by Patterson/Gimlin) abducting a child would have been vilified and lost his job. Imagine, if this had caught on and built up a full head of steam in the public's eye what this would have done to the entire national and state park systems.
Today there is a BF researcher, Scott Carpenter, who is still getting incredible but admittedly somewhat odd pictures of BF in east TN. I camp almost annually in CC and go hiking alone and it is not without an element of fear NOR without several cans of bear spray repellent. Just in case.
What's not hypothesized here is the possible use of infra-sound. Maybe Mr. Martin didn't take his eyes off of his son. After all there were a lot of pairs of eyes involved and unless we explore the supernatural possibilities or underground caves/tunnels as an escape route, how did such a large creature take a child in a seemingly open area (from behind a bush). I believe that BF does have infrasound capabilities and simply makes "sounds" that we don't hear that temporarily confuse people - thus there is a blip in their perception of reality that doesn't stand out as anything. Kind've like the time I passed out cold, due to an inflammation in my brain. There was no warning. I was conscious/normal then I was on the floor with people trying to help. I had no awareness of how I got from "here to there". A perfect mechanism for capturing a prey.
Finally, it is fairly well documented that indigenous American Indian's would kill or kidnap European settlers. This was likely for slavery or for sex/reproduction. For example, the story of Sacagawea who accompanied Lewis and Clark was one of abduction by Indians of another Indian. One true story I read from early 1800' where a young boy and others were kidnapped. His mother eventually escaped. That boy was raised as an Indian and that was pretty much all he knew. Years later contact was made with him by his family and it wasn't like he immediately wanted to go back "home". Home was with the Indians. Some American Indians viewed the Sasquatch as just another Indian Tribe. I recently met an American Indian and when he was much younger (Oklahoma) his elders talked about BF as being human and that they interacted years ago and had a common speech. Others had said the same. And of course, Bob has reported that the minister Elkanah Walker recorded (1841) that the Indians in the Washington State area had a "myth" about giants who were "men (women and children) stealers" - for food? companionship? reproduction?
There are other stories in Mr Paulides amazing collection that indicate where a child was taken and apparently not for food or by a human. The one were a couple sees a child in a cliffed area that no human could have reached without technical climbing equipment and just like in the Martin case this couple later recognized this was the child reported to have gone missing at the same time and was in the same color of clothing. They were stunned to see a young child in such a precarious place and then suddenly the child was quickly moved back (how ?) away from the cliff and out of sight.
Is it possible that BF like other species knows not to inter-breed and so it kidnaps a close species for breeding purposes like human's have done? American Indians, I have read, would marry outside of their tribe to avoid inter-breeding. Is it possible that poor Dennis Martin is actually still alive today living somewhere with a BF "family" - he would be about 56 years old. Much stranger than fiction. Too unbearable to fathom.
Proof of anything? No. But a wonderfully interesting set of dots that connect easily and mysteriously - presenting still more questions than answers. Clearly the government knows about BF. Clearly the park service people knew to keep their mouths shut. Isn't it clear that if my girl friend who grew up in that area knew about mysterious dangers in the woods might it be that rangers and other employees tell their stories and hand down stories from the past. That is why they sent the Green Beret, armed via helicopters and searched primarily in the night.
Keep up the great work Bob.
Little O , I think one of the reasons those deep woods hillbilly types are so dangerous, especially back then, were the moonshine stills they had going. (now it's pot plants)As a kid I lived 80 miles NE of where Dennis Martin went missing. They'd display the stills the police busted up on the front lawn of the courthouse back then. Looking back now I shudder to think of the countless hours I spent wandering all alone in the woods of those hills, I was a extra small kid for my age, but I never told anyone where I was going. I never saw a deer, much less a bear, come to think of it, never saw or heard any wildlife. But at CC we were surrounded by skunks, they were use to visitors feeding them. I think sometimes BF may take kids if a female can't have one or lost one, although the chances they'd survive long in those conditions wouldn't great.
P.S. No one, no matter how inbred backwoods they are, would be wearing FUR in June there!
Little O, I think you're on to something and I agree with you. However, I also believe that not all of the disappearances are due to BF. I think that's limiting and rules out other possibilities. Remember the story of the farmer who disappeared in his field while his family watched from the front porch of their house? They never found him, yet at the spot where he disappeared, they could hear him until day by day his voice became weaker and weaker until one day it was gone and he was never heard from again. And we all know of sick individuals in our society that prey on the vulnerable and the strange ways they may use to disguise their crimes. I do believe that the Key family saw a BF that day and submit that was the purpose of the green beret's presence. I think that may have been the FBI's reason for being there, also. Because it may have been true and they have their own agendas, as we have painfully discovered (in today's world).
Nemo-Nova Blimey! What an event. Why did they kidnap Mary? :(
The most unsettling thing about this whole story is the fact that the other family that approached them said they were also named "Martin", after they were asked. What are the odds of that being true and why would they suddenly want to hang out..
I always thought that was suspicious too, but I'm generally less social than the average person. If it were the human predator angle this could have been a clue. Predators work in groups and often use women and other "safe" people like families to lure people into a false sense of security.
Superb as usual, i love that you go the extra mile to be very thorough in your research. Well done.
The thought of him being food for this creature makes me sick to my stomach.
I seriously doubt that was the purpose but sadly the only one probably still alive who knows for sure isn't human...and ain't talking.
What else would it take him for
I believe thats exactly what it was... a meal that would put up NO fight. This is the one case of sasquatch i believe could be authentic. The green berets being there says it all.... i believe the park rangers knew it was there and dont want to admit it. I also believe they're the ones who called in heavy hitters to get rid of it. National guard, fbi, green berets...... all for a missing child but park rangers dont tell the father about details that are extremely important and refuse to meet the key family to go to the exact location the "thing" was seen carrying something? Bullshit! They knew he wasnt gonna be found! Something without a doubt was going on and being covered up. I just hope if dennis did meet his untimely death out there that the boy didnt suffer. Very sad
Though the passive nature of the creature in the Keys' account is a tad questionable. It could be an instance of unstable fostership, like a real life Tarzan. Creature loses offspring, takes child as surrogate.
It happens in the wild, almost all predators attack young. Big cats are known to attack offspring, sometimes as they are just born espc. if it is desperate. Its the same thing, easy prey, one that wont put up a big fight and is light enough to carry quickly away from the scene. Typical predatory behaviour. They look for the weaker prey first e.g. the sick, wounded or young. No need to expel more energy than necessary; besides if you release more energy than gaining from a kill, it isnt all too beneficial or worth it isnt it? Is it because its a human thats its sickening to you? You wouldnt bat an eye if it was another animal. Its nature friend. It aint Zootopia or Lion King. Its just how the cookie crumbles sometimes. Sometimes you gotta realize we arent always at the top of the food chain.
The Green Berets weren’t “called in”. They were already doing training exercises very nearby and so they helped.
This is such a sad and disturbing story. Thank you for telling thoroughly but respectfully.
I love the bottle on the beleaguered FBI agent's desk. And the fact I finally got to use beleaguered in a sentence.
I think my xwife is one of those.
Will Andrews
Lol!
Bob, this was an excellent episode!! I've read/watched several takes on this sad, confusing story, but yours was the most comprehensive!! Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
Ive been waiting for you to do some kinda coverage on this for a while now. I'm a Aboriginal Native of british Columbia living on Vancouver island(Ape island) for my whole life now. We live @ the base of a mountain & these things make their stick structures right in our back yard & throw rocks nd stuff @ our house nd windows. our tribe and most others know these creatures as child and women stealers
I have never heard of vancouver island being called ape island
you havn't? well many bigfoot reseachers & historians call it ape island because of the bigfoot sightings & interactions that have been recorded since the early 1800's@@fredflintstone6338
@@fredflintstone6338 tis what I've known it as.
My family has similar happenings in their property on western Washington. Wet (dew) prints on the covered deck, slaps on the side of the home, predictable vocalizations, for example.
... Are they more likely to bring up the boy, as one of their own, latter breeded with etc. Or indeed, a food source, depending on circumstance etc :( ?.
@@DJJAW11 Deer and other wild life creatures are harder to catch than a small boy but why risk it for food? These creatures must know if they take one of us the woods are full of us for the next few weeks at least. They also know that some of us can find and kill them. The boy must have been very important to them to risk giving up their location and risking the tribe or family. These creatures are not stupid.
I've lived in the area all my life and been in these woods all my life I'm forty years old and I will tell you I will never go into these woods unarmed ever and nobody else should either
Why? You just said youve been in them all your life?
I can only imagine how Dennis Martin felt in his last moment..
R.I.P Dennis
That statement, "People either love him, hate him, or don't know him." that can pretty much apply to any person.
@Keith M you talk like a man with the way you said boy
BYype13X2 I don’t love, hate, or haven’t hear of you.
Lolz, well that's weird cuz I know alot of ppl but neither love or hate them. And like I said, I know them
Meh there’s a lot of basic people out there ppl have no opinion on lol
You know the illustrations really helped me understand the story line, good work bro
Omar Martinez thanks man! I appreciate it.
The narrative here is substantially different than that presented by The Missing Enigma here on RUclips. Anyone who watches this should check out the alternative narrative. I am a fan of this channel but I am fairly certain that David Paulides has omitted crucial information from his work, he is an author in the business of selling books after all.
Basically, Paulides is a grifter. The Missing Enigma is a hundred times better than this or DP's account.
Missing Engima is top tier for this sort of thing with the Lore Lodge following closely behind.
Bob, my gosh... Thank you, man.
This is pretty much the best account and summary of the whole case found anywhere, in one comprehensive analysis.
Otto Beumelburg you’re very welcome sir.
Great video Mr. Gymlan. I look forward to your content. Thanks an awful lot for producing.
Sean Hackley you’re very welcome Sean.
Ever since first hearing this story from David and every time since I can’t help but thinking that this is one of most horrific abductions I’ve ever heard of. Nothing adds up outside that Dennis was abducted and whatever did it was likely not of the usual suspects due to the way it was handled by “investigators” and the eyewitness accounts. I mean it just breaks my heart seeing that young mans photo knowing he likely met a ghastly end. Thank god for David Paulides and you too for getting this info out in such a thorough way as their is no time limits on the relevancy of child abductions and failures of our Park Rangers in sufficiently protecting and/or looking for that little guy. I just cant imagine .....
Holy shit!! Bob!! Been waiting for something new from you!! Danke!!
Bob you kick ass with narrating. No one comes close to you. Thank you so much for the effort you make.
I know the Dennis Martin Story was over 50 years ago in 1969 , but here I am in 2023 with A 7 year old Son , and it makes my heart ache hearing this sad sad story my Stomach wrenches thinking of little Dennis Martin Story I send Prayers 🙏🏼for little Dennis & his Dad and Family …
My boy turns 4 in a 3 weeks. I am exponentially more careful with knowledge of where he is due to these stories
Bob... I think the agencies (parks, FBI and the army) were working together.
Consider that Green Beret hunter/killer squad... it's 1969... they are fresh Vietnam vets. They know how to track and how to kill.
It's compartmentalized. The parks dept had their role. The FBI had their role and the hunter/killers had their role. They didn't intermingle. They were orchestrated to suppress a story that would've shook a nation and kill a creature that was now revealed as a child killer.
The father had to be kept in the dark. The witness needed to be delayed and quarantined and the media had to mollify the facts into something that was digestible to the public.
I could go on... but this took a maestro and a lot of specifically worded NDAs.
They did find it. They did kill it and routed out the others and destroyed the evidence. And all the involved agencies now have plausible deniability.
Speculative. We don't know the child was killed.
Of course it's speculative.
No kidding.
That's what I'm doing, speculating based on my own experience.
If you don't agree, then, great.
Rob, I believe you're right. And, unfortunately, that poor little boy was probably already dead (whether it was intentional or not) when he was found. Wonder what the government did with him?
@@winniewiggins3518 I "speculate" that they conducted a standard clean up operation and cremated his remains.
I agree that the boy was (probably) dead before he was removed (stolen) from the scene.
From a governmental point of view... they needed to suppress it entirely. (Speculation)
They wouldn't have had to kill the Sasquatch nor would the child have been taken if they just told to public to take precautions in areas where these creatures live. This may be obvious but it almost sounded like you were implying what they did was right, which it clearly wasn't.
This is one of the most frightening true stories l have ever heard. That poor frightened little boy and the suffering his family went through and are probably still going through. It sounds awfully like a Bigfoot but l wonder would they kill a child, from watching videos about Bigfoot they seem to run and hide from people. My heart goes out to the family, not knowing what has happened to there son.
From what I'VE heard, some are "good" some are "bad". Plus, there could be other malevolent hominid like creatures out there other than "Bigfoot"
Maybe an accident?! 🤷🏾♀️
The artistic prowess of this video is phenomenally accurate, spot on , and top shelf...❤
This has many similarities to the boy most recently found but was taken care of by a bear 🐻. The difference is the little boy was found alive. Bob can you look into doing a piece on this recent case?
Yes, the boy was found alive but some of the 'facts' are quite strange. Perhaps Bob would investigate it further?
I have looked into it. There’s nothing there that you haven’t heard. Plus, I have no desire to drag the boy into this world forever. Perhaps he’ll return to it once he’s old enough to make that decision.
Paulides describes quite a number of young kids who have similar experiences. If you are to open to the possibility of a large bipedal woodape, these are not especially surprising. Yet it doesn't explain many other strange disappearances in the Missing 411 books. Bigfoot might explain some. But no where all these odd disappearances.
@@BobGymlan Mighty decent of you there.
Robert Mullenax here here I agree 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻✌🏼
David Paulides' books and interviews always seem honest and straightforward too me. His lack of conclusion is troubling but I have heard him say he understands how it is for his readers. Someone knows the answers so we need to determine who would be the most likely is these cases , locate them and "encourage" them to spill the beans.
You can't conclude what you don't know. Paulides is very honest about that. He is willing to rule out. He isn't willing to rule in. That is the proper position.
Paulides' list of commonalities from all disappearances:
Abductions always occur during days or nights of the week.
Often victims are not wearing gloves, earrings, or long underwear
Victims always have hair or a lack of hair
All abductions occur on a day of the month that is a multiple of 1 or 2
89% of the cases involve syrups (including honey and molasses) and or cassette tapes
Most victims have a family member or friend named Robert, James, or Karen
Many victims last names contain the letters E S F and less commonly but still worth mentioning: W
All of the victims did or did not have shoes on when found
Some of the victims had visited Europe at some point and the ones that didn't would have liked to
Most of them were standing, sitting or walking when last seen
And most strikingly: Every single one off the victims were of below average, average or above average intelligence
I laughed a little at first but then a lot. Well said.
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Yeah I started out listening to some of that 411 stuff and it just got silly to me, the leaps he was making
synchronicty seems absurd til you experience it, and even during or after, it confounds perception
I always found this case to be both intriguing and disturbing. From everything we know or have heard about this case it does seem that something out of the ordinary occurred. Thank you so much, Bob, for covering these types of stories with such professionalism and compassion. Keep up the great work, my friend!
I watched this video a few days ago, listened to Paulides talk about it and then went to some sceptic channels. What strikes me about the expanded Keys account is that Mr Key says he heard a child shout for help, followed by the scream then a dishevelled man went by himself and his family and got into a White car that was parked next to the road. Seems rather odd that one he didn't say anything to the dishevelled man and two that this account is made years/decades later. It also struck me particularly strange that Mr Key's daughter, during one of the interviews, stated that her father was a brave war era guy and served in the military and if he thought a child was in danger he'd have been straight to them. Something does not add up and the emphasis they put on this made it seem like guilt to me. Could be reading to much into it.
Great to see a new vid Bob! Thanks for all the hard work. THE best channel on the topic! 👍🏻
The treatment of the Key's report is really strange. My first thought within the "normal" spectrum of possibilities was that the figure they saw could have been someone wearing a ghillie suit. That's also how someone could have been very close to the Martins without being visible, since a good ghillie can make someone completely undetectable at very close range. There's also the possibility that someone could have snatched the boy and had some sort of faster transport such as a bike to cross a greater distance more quickly. So the dismissal of the sighting seems very strange and irresponsible to me.
There would be tracks discovered. There wasn't
Yeah a ghillie suit is definitely a possibility it was relevant information no matter how you look at it and they acted like it was nothing
I thought about camo as well but why would someone in camo be screaming in the woods....unless it was Martin boy screaming....this case drives me crazy
Bob, this is an extremely well done presentation. We'll probably never get the answer to the boy's disappearance; but the coincidences of poor record-keeping and lack of obvious investigation and cooperation show too much is hidden 'on purpose'. Keeping people 'dumbed down' Does happen.
How about the ginseng hunter who said he saw bones he believed to be from the Martin boy. He didn't initially report it because he didn't want to be arrested for what he was doing and when he did tell about it, the bones he saw were gone.
What! I didn't hear about that one. Please tell me about it in more detail?
@@judywoodard4944 There's not much to tell more than what I said.
He was hunting ginseng illegally and found the skeletal remains of a small child in Tremont, he didn't say anything until 1985 for fear of prosecution when they went to investigate, nothing was found, probably because of the time that had passed.
He reportedly found the remains a few years after Dennis Martin disappeared.
@@BobGymlan I with you on this one Bob! I think it was awlful cowardly of the man not to come forward sooner, especially when it was a small child involved.
@@OfficialFedHater THANKS for replying back. I still think it was horrible what he did, but I can also understand his concern at that time in our judicial system. We didn't have all the technology that we now have so he probably would have been charged with the kidnapping & murder of that child back then. Even tho it was still an unjust way he went about it. I'm sure he's heard of the word anonymously. Thanks again!!
@@BobGymlan if he was worried about prosecution don't you think he would obviously try to explain why he was out there? No shade bob im an absolute avid fan of your work, some of your videos blow me away but im dissapointed you aknowledge David P's ridiculous claims. If you really look into it he is just obscuring natural events and connecting absurd dots together to make them seem more mysterious than they really are! People go missing in the woods. It just happens.
Best bigfoot related channel on all of RUclips
+Mike Thomas Best *Cryptid* channel on the RUclips
Fair enough haha
Mike Thomas The 411 :)
@@thedoruk6324 check Trey the Explainer's Cryptid videos
Baffling points about the case mentioned in the book:
After the agencies left (green berets and FBI), the national park authorities called off the civilian search claiming the hundreds of individuals looking for Dennis were "disrupting wildlife" and "damaging the underbrush". When Mr. Martin confronted them stating he still had 200 men waiting to search for Dennis he was told he would only be allowed to bring in 25 people for the search party. Apparently the state of the park is more important than a six year old boy missing.
Mr. Keyes said that, after the scream they heard, his son (still covering his years) pointed to a hill covered with tall trees and said "look, dad, a bear!", Mr. Keyes then says he was sure it wasn't a bear, and it immediately started to run up the hill on two legs, carrying something on it's back. Bears can indeed stand on two legs, but run up a hill using only two legs while carrying something over their shoulder as if it was nothing? bears don't do that kind of thing, the way their legs are oriented limits that type of movement.
+Bob Gymlan Brilliant work as always! Your channel just gets better with every single upload. The new artwork is a great addition to your quality research & narration. By far the best RUclipsr dealing with this subject. xxx
Great to see you again Bob
Yesterday I got into a car wreck our new Escalade totalled so yeah you uploading a new video is helping brightening up my day
Hope you are ok after ur accident. Take care.
Hopin for a speedy recovery, god bless
Tivi Birch thanks
cryptozoologist investigator Wow hope u r able to recover soon!
Hey Bob,
I have heard and read several versions of this story and Mr. Key was interviewed when he was about 93 and said that he never saw a bear and neither did his daughter or two sons and that he was farther ahead than they were but he and one of his sons heard a scream. He also said he saw a white car when they came up and that there was a man who was walking out of the woods, never said it was carrying anything and he never said he was shaggy or a moonshiner but he was very sweaty. There were also GBs in the area doing training and one of the rangers called them to see if they could assist. It’s NOT uncommon for GBs to help out with searches for missing people or children ESPECIALLY if they are doing training in the area. I love your videos but I feel like this one might have been a little conspiracy theory like than what actually happened. It seems pretty clear from all the information that the guy the was walking to the car had something to do with the boy but we could only speculate since nobody ever got the plate number or make and model. I’d definitely like to talk to you more about this video if you’re open to it.