Why I Use LaTeX to Write Professionally And You Should Too
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- What is the best editing tool to write a thesis, a dissertation or a paper? NOT Word or Pages! It's LaTeX.
In today's video I show you why I decided to use LaTeX to write my data engineering cookbook.
I used it before for my diploma thesis and I am in love again :)
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Thank you so much for the cheat sheet! I'm trying to read and understand some LaTeX and it's helping a ton
Use a reference book ... google Latex filetype:pdf
To Lorentari: First, CONGRATULATIONS on earning your Masters in Chem Engineering! I'm a fellow Chem E: a BChE (1986) U of Del. Secondly, AGREED to all else you said.
thank you for sharing! i've never tried latex, but your video made me want to give it a try!
After watching half of this video, the way to use LaTex gives me flashbacks to WordPerfect for DOS when thinking of user friendlyness. That was the time before windows, so you had to push F7(?) to get a preview.
Making Table of contents automagically, managing citations and sources...word does this. I must be missing something.
When i got my Certificate of Apprenticeship, I used Word to write my exam. Lightyears away from a diploma thesis or something like that :D
But I felt using word to write it felt like a breeze. I saw in real time what it would look like, and that is a good thing.
I wonder why the teachers back in high school didn't teach us how to use LaTex.
They never learnt it probably.
Emacs Org mode is routinely used to build and manage complex workflows. It does this using an elegantly simple syntax that scales from basic markup to full LaTeX typesetting and from plain text notes to literate programs.
I was curious why so many people love Latex rather than word, that's why I'm here, but my impression is that people that says latex is better than word does not really know all the functions of word,. Word does exactly the same things and many more, the only real difference is that you can see the final look of the paper while working on it, I can not see how having to bake the result to see the preview every time is better in any way :D.
For larger and more complex documents, Latex can be faster and less tedious than MS Word.
Yeh I was thinking the same tbh word can do this all automatically
Word's native formatting is horrible. If you move a picture sometimes the whole document goes to shits. Word has so many "features" that are just a nuisance. Writing formulae is significantly faster in Latex. Whenever I search something in word, I have to search for minutes on end where to find it. Referencing figures is so much easier in Latex than it is in word.... And much more.
@@Vinzmannn And in LaTeX you need to know all of these 'commands' and to be honest just casually typing in word is more comfortable and faster than writing your text and also write the correct commands
@@erokex for someone who has experience in latex all these “commands” are more comfortable. There’s certainly a steep learning curve, but for those who learn it having complete control and all the formatting verbatim makes life easier.
The main issue I have with LaTeX is people's reluctance to adopt it as their standard document app. My PhD advisor refuses to use it, so all of my manuscripts are in Word. Otherwise, LaTeX is far superior to any word processor I've ever used.
Word ist just horrible 🤷🏻♂️
Dude, even my backward university still use Latex for scientific paper.
You and your supervisor might both consider switching to TeXmacs; you'll both be better off :-)
It’s unfortunate that latex does have a learning curve for those that are not tech savvy is very annoying. honestly, for me remembering which package to have for a documents makes setting it up at first kinda annoying, but that’s more a problem with overleaf
Same story =]]
Why I Use Word to Write Professionally And You Should Too:
1) Change your font of Word and it will be nicer than the ugly default font of Latex.
2) If it has to be as ugly as Latex, but userfriendly as in Word, use Wordtex within word.
3) If you still really should use Latex, use Overleaf which also provides a way of seeing what you do (rich text).
4) Latex can get clumsy to read and it is horrible to read it without nice captions. I understand you should read the pdf, but sometimes you want to edit the latex source. It is just easier to read the real formula (² instead of \sup{2})
5) If you want to, you can insert formula’s latex-wise.
6) Don’t search half an hour on the internet to do the most simple things.
7) Use Zotero in combination with Word: just click the article you want and the references are taken care of by Zotero/Word.
Spoiler alert: In video #113 he abandons LaTeX for Markdown.
Regarding using Word for Professional writing---at least for scientific papers---everyone uses Word these days.
Ughh
Latex, markdown, rmarkdown >>>> word
Personally, I think Latex is incredibly beautiful, it provides a lot of control and looks more professional than word. If you get used to latex you can write documents fast. Though if you wish to use Latex for one-time use only for some project I recommend using something easier like word so you don't have to spend additional time to learn latex. If however you are in for example a maths department or computer science department it is an absolute must to know latex (at least in my university).
So we start off by demonstrating using WORD incorrectly... So with a false opening premise, the rest of the video is invalidated.
the problem of overleaf is that when you make a mistake or delete a text for example, you cannot go backwards to recover it
I don't get the urgent point to use latex, maybe if what is done is a formula related to latex mathematics, it still looks better. However, considering all the features offered, word and similar softwares are much more suitable for mass use because of their ease of use which is much better than latex. Or maybe some people can't move on from latex?
Exactly
Hi Andreas, Thanks for this great video. Currently I want to decide if I will use Latex or Word for my thesis and this makes it easier. Also I fully agree on what you wrote about outsourcing based on my expirience... :) greetings from Vienna
Good luck with your thesis 👍
Thank you. I will also look into your book which seems to cover or will be covering a lot of interesting topics in a compact way.
@@SonicEldorado I am currently in the same position as you were 8 months ago. Would you recommend Latex for a thesis? Did you have any problems regarding citations and your bibliography?
The video is fun, but I hope that Andreas will consider TeXmacs for his next video!
If you have equations and you want them to look nice, Word is a no-no. Likewise Libreoffice. If you have bibliographies, then bibtex manages everything nicely for you. I'd recommend using a git repo for version tracking. And separating your defs into separate files. And possibly chapters too (much like you separate stuff when coding, or having external .css and .js with web pages.
I just had a really hard time with Word and started to finally look into LaTeX today. I'm very confused, though. I thought it would be something like html+css, where you keep the structure and content in one file, and the styling and formatting in another.
All the examples I've seen so far include both on the same file, which seems really weird, to me (it was something about centering, no indent, width of an image, vpace, hspace etc). Equivalent of setting fonts and sizes, etc inside the html (which makes no sense imo) instead of the css file, for example.
Ok, nice, I get to TYPE my formatting, but I'm still thinking about my formatting. A lot. And then I see people teeling other people to use some whatever extra thing so they can have access to more fonts... !?
And then I saw someone using a website to generate the code for a simple table. A very simple table....
It just does'nt make any sense to me, unless you're writing lots of maths, perhaps?
What am I missing here?
It may be hard in the beginning, mainly if you don't have an engineering-math-programming background (I'm from the philosophy-literature side of the spectrum). But it pays off, once you've learnt. It saves you a lot of time and headaches, and there's a big community willing to help to solve problems.
Plus, if you work on the same kind of document repeatedly, you just reuse the same template you've configured and formatted. It's definitely worthwhile the effort. It looks professional, elegant and everything is always on its place.
You could also try TeXmacs.
You just format ONCE in latex, and then just focusing on the content. You should not overpopulate the preamble of the document. Just make a sty file and it will be more like html+css but simpler, and your wouldn't care about the formatting anymore. Just learn to write sty, your own commands, own formatting, so you have to do it just once and you are done !
This is the way with software people. Everything is so simple*.
*if you use specific add-ons (half of which won’t be maintained in 2 years), and specific versions of dependencies, and are willing to come up with absurdly hacky ways to do some specific but incredibly simple tasks, and if something does break then you should just be able to write the fix yourself
Some of the advantages apply to markup languages in general, like having a completely free choice of text editor. Other advantages show up more with larger documents as well as academic contexts, like splitting up the document into discreet files, integrations with several programming languages, and compatibility with git-style versioning. In general it's better suited to larger scale work where you have multiple people working on a document/text or just even one person working on a single large document/text.
This all being said, you can get a lot of the benefits of LaTeX with markdown without the same weight. Markdown syntax is designed to be easy and still give you access to the a features that LaTeX provides like math, the Pandoc version of Markdown is great in this way. Markdown is usually better than either Word or LaTeX at least if we're looking at common use cases.
tldr; it's nice for big projects, but might not be worth it for everyone: use markdown if that's you.
Nothing you've said seems like something I couldn't do faster or easier using Word (Windows) with the Mendeley reference manager plugin.
I've just graduated my Chemical Engineering Master's, and all 10 semester-projects I've used Word. People tell me I should use LaTeX but I still don't see the point. The setup, the packages, the lack of immediate feedback when formatting, the apparent need for a "cheat sheet" to learn how I make stuff
YOU: cross references acting weird if moved around; ME: CTRL+A then F9 = Done all dynamic fields updated
YOU: Equations; ME: There is a VERY intuitive equation editor in word that even a 6th grader can use. For the one or two cases I've dealt with were I couldn't use the UI and shortcuts I just did it in VBA (which is pretty much the LaTeX experience (correct me if I'm wrong).
YOU: Tables, bulletpoints and numbered headings ; ME: Ehm... Yeah word does that too?
YOU: Dynamic figure text and cross references to figures and headings; ME: Yep word is excellent at that too.
YOU: Citations; ME: Okay... Granted Word's own citation manager sucks. But... 3rd party plugins like Mendeley exists that keep all your references (along with their PDFs) in a free-text searchable (also within the PDFs themselves) online database to which you can add complete citations from various journals with 2 clicks with their Chrome extention. This again seems quite a lot easier that LaTeX.
I don't think MS Word has a "VERY intuitive" equation editor. Don't get me wrong, It is intuitive, but that's all. It is a poorly designed function, barely usable, equation formatting could improve a lot and it doesn't really handles all kinds of equations, just the simple ones. Even though it dresses itself like It could be an equation editor, It's not pratical.
You'd think MS Word would be able to handle just about anything you'd throw at It. Most of the times you'd be right, but there always were a handful of features that never were much useful, properly designed, fleshed out, or behaved as intended.
Those can make MS Word feels a bit on the bloated side, and it gets worse when you start adding 3rd party software to fill for the editor's shortcomings.
Latex can edit mathematical equations like no other software, It's sleek, lightweight, and extremely powerful, as long as you bother learning It's syntax, of course. Honestly, It's a novel and niche product for a niche group of people. It does things quite differently than MS Word and most other text editors do.
Learning a new tool like Latex shouldn't be too difficult, we all had to learn Word and/or Excel at some point, I don't see much difference in that regard.
The main problem with this video is, that there is no real WYSIWYG editor involved - or the author just doesn't know, how a real writing program looks and/or works like - to me, as a non-mac-guy, it looks like a better version of M$ notepad. If you're bad at Word, it is as if you're bad at LaTeX (like I am bad at english :/). You just aren't able to compare them then - and if you have created many papers, like the author claims, you should actually know, what comparison really is about. In my opinion - which is also approved by some studies involving LaTeX beginners, LaTeX pros and Word beginners - LaTeX has lost its right to existence nowadays and is now(!) obsolete. Its main reason was typography, but today Word and Libre can do the same with less effort, faster, "nicer" and with more reliability: Using packages in LaTeX will create incompatabilities sometimes you will never ever experience in a program like Word, since it is from one factory: every part of the software (≙ packages) is meant to work with each other, especially when software is created by a large company who is interested in - who guesses? - money (and user-data).
You just have to learn to use your software like you previously had to learn designing text with the LaTeX language. The difference is: Getting good results with Word / Libre / OO is much faster and easier (for everyone), than with LaTeX (even if you are a programmer or markup language designer or IT-nerd) - and that's what new technology is about and how many people (GUI designers and so on) earn a lot of money with.
First, CONGRATULATIONS on earning your Masters in Chem Engineering! I'm a fellow Chem E: a BChE (1986) U of Del. Secondly, AGREED to all else you said.
I couldn’t agree more. One can even add formula's in Latex-style in Word nowadays and if you don’t like Mendeley, Zotero is a nice alternative.
Thank you for good introduction on latex !!
Thanks man!
Check out Luke Smith's LaTeX playlist.
Can LaTeX print in boustophedon or bi-directional text?
looks great, how you change font? if you want impact for example?
So basically a plugin for maths equations, and Word will be just fine. Obviously the learning curve for finding "indexing" in word is just the same as Latex. So what are the real advantages? Ps. your cookbook should be great!
Niet hardop zeggen, maar met TeXmacs is de friet lekkerder!
Why not just use Microsoft Word?
I know, right?
is it now renamed as overleaf?
i wisdh my company used this instead excel and word for the thing that arent efficiant for the work we do :c
Edit: You don't even use Latex anymore, okay, well this isn't that good of a software if you stopped using it after only one year.
I don't get the point of Latex.
And you say it's simple, but you're showing a double page filled with commands or whatever, doesn't look simple.
Plus I struggle to understand what Word cannot do that you just showed in that video.
What i use latex for: Taking some black latex, setting it next to me, and praying that it comes alive and transfurs me. Yes i know. I am weird.
Why do you hate yourself?
Wait this isnt Latex. Its LaTeX. Wtf
You need energy drink. .. 😰
I will never use this. I have word and zotero for my scientific papers. It is hard enough to write complex scientific literature why would I want a coding screen as well. I will let publishers figure out the process of formatting. Bye.
Tex heads do not care about actually doing any math. All they want to do is spend their entire lives worrying about typesetting.
It's ok software. But you can't compare it to Word and in no way it can replace it. This text editor for *very* specific/limited style and content, and I really don't see how not seeing preview real time would be an pro.
While I understand people not liking Word/MS office products because it's not open source and it's from Microsoft. It's undeniable it's intuitive and superior product for writing documents of pretty much any kind. LibreOffice for example is already many times better than LaTeX.
libre office sucks
Damn, this looks so dumb and inefficient
i recommend coda and you?
That's because it IS dumb and inefficient.
Latex is so lame and low efficienct compared with MS-Word when it comes to arrange tables and figures.
True, but it takes care of typesetting automatically and allows integration of programming languages like R. You can directly import R graphs in Latex without losing quality of images as you would with word. And 1 major bonus point is that there is a huge community behind Latex which will help you with many questions you have.
@@Tntpker Word and Excel are able to handle Stata and R exported graphs and tables perfectly and efficiently. It's totally nonsense to use programming codes for texts. What a ridiculous software.😂😂😂
@@harrisonsituationroom Thats fine I can understand programming (I dont consider latex programming) is hard for some people. But I mean hundreds of thousands of researchers use it for a reason, so it is not ridiculous. I personally use it because it just looks more professional than Word (I havent seen any Word thesis look better than a thesis written in latex), easier citations and version control (gl doing that with Word lol)
@@harrisonsituationroom The point of LaTeX is that it produces better typography, can automate much of the formatting required for a paper, is more stable, and is much better for tasks required in academic writing (especially with math and science e.g. writing equations). There are even options to use LaTeX more like a word processor (like LyX). If you don't like that, fine.
@@Tntpker Citing in Word is just type sthg like "...(Chomsky, 1985)...". I see no benefit by citing with a made-up nickname and doing staff like \citet{...} or \cite{...}. Plus editing tables and figures in Word in so easy and editing a complex table takes forever in Latex by doing staff like cl cl cl ... 😂😂😂
Laytech. LMAO!
He must be German. Accent speaks.
Yes he is ;)
COMPLETE tutorial with Customizable THESIS LATEX TEMPLATE!
ruclips.net/video/JMwLr-cocMc/видео.html
It will be VERY HELPFUL! Please watch!
You need to make this more clear. I gave up on you at 8 minutes.
You're far better than me! I gave up after 1 minute.
Word can do as much as Latex...
Obviously. Agreed
No.
@@3nt3_ Could you elaborate in that?
@@matheusnb99 you can have vim keybindings
@@3nt3_ well, if you use vim, sure why not. But I assure you that you can do the same things in word, it will just take a bit more of time.
I wont "Ulysses" on windows i dont have mac and i hate all apple product...
You're not mother tounge of english, aren't u?
He's german.
I'm reading your line with Borat accent! 😂
Hi Andreas
Great video on the Latex app usage.
It would be great if you could compare latex app with notion.so? How are both different or similar per se?? That would be very helpful for us 🙏