I've never understood the mindset of selling physical gold to turn a profit. I buy physical to sell only when and if I need it. If you're in it to make a profit buy paper gold and skip having to store and look after the physical
I wouldn't even try it with paper gold. The best investment results I ever had was when I looked at my portfolio once per year. For the vast majority of people, trading is a losing game.
@@JoeBtfzplk I've traded stocks and done well with 18-25% returns on my trades in 4-8 weeks time. But it's just not satisfying. I don't feel as if I am building anything of real value. It's just a way to extract capital from a market that needs a lot of capital working at building something really important. So, yes, I CAN do it, but should I? No, not really. Same with trading options and futures, IMO.
Would be a gamble but if the market collapses. Gold is going down too. Like those who sold a bit at 32.45 earlier and are now buying back or waiting to. Be nice to know how much it would fall. Would t sell your collective pieces but generic bars ect for the profit would be fine. Danger of that tho is if the price is cut by half doesn’t do ya any good if there isn’t product to purchase. Then your caught with your pants down 😮
I stack metals to supplement my retirement. When that happens a few years from now I will slowly start selling to do the extra things I want to do. Ideally I'd like to be down to my last coin just before I take the long dirt nap.
This time of year last year I started stacking gold, I just bought my 16th ounce last week. I don't see myself selling ever unless I can finally get a big enough stack together to convert it into land or real estate.
Gold was a global product on the global market despite what was happening in the US. US was still only priced by the US at $35 in the 1960s , while the global price was much higher.
@@peterbedford2610 There was a slight difference. Any more than slight would have created a much bigger arbitrage than there was. It is the same today between the Shanghai and COMEX prices. Shanghai spot price is 10 percent higher than COMEX, but physically moving that much silver is cost prohibitive. Let the Shanghai spot price get to 25% + and you will see tons of silver move (and I do mean tons). Just as you would have seen a good chunk of US gold leave if it was worth that much more elsewhere.
I have been getting some of my friends and family into stacking gold and silver. And the real fun thing about that is we buy from the same dealers so we know it's the real deal, if any of us need cash we can just trade the gold or silver for spot price, no premiums involved. This is so good. We basically have savings that while we hold it theres no risk unlike having savings in a bank and can convert it back into cash at spot prices at any time we want.
If it’s a short term holding yes. Now is the best time to sell. If it’s an emergency fund, yes now is the the time to hold. Or the second best time to buy (the best time was when the price was lower).
Just bought two more gold buffalo's on Monday.... I'm in for the long haul! Started buying when gold was under a thousand. Allowed me to pay off that mortgage when I sold my graded coins. Be kind to gold and it will take care of you! (Funny aside - as a college kid on an Archaeological trip to Mexico when Nixon took us off the gold standard, a young man on the crew bragged about buying a 1 ounce+ Mexican gold coin for $35.00... to this day I wonder if that kid kept that gold coin or sold it)
"... to this day I wonder if that kid kept that gold coin or sold it" I had the very same feeling when I watched a couple of men argue in a coin shop about buying a St. Gaudens $20 gold coin back in the day. One of them said, "Why pay $100 for a $20 coin?" while the other said, "Man that coin is gorgeous and should become more valuable in time." Dad and I left the book store / coin shop before they made a decision, so I've long wondered whether or not that coin was purchased that day and if so whether one of them kept it for a son or a grandson.
Great video and thanks for the shoutout. I think you're spot on when you say that end of year price up trend may be playing out this year. If you factor in rate cuts, it looks like that is lining up perfectly.
I think it depends on how you treat it, as an investment, as a commodity or an emergency fund. A dealer will take a cut, the market can get flooded when the price is high, online auction sites will take a fee. I have sold to a dealer and took the hit, put the money in my pension and got the hit back in tax benefits. War and national disasters will make prices high, supply and demand principal.
@@ItsEverythingElse Silver has always had a "lot of potential" but the REAL question is, "Will it ever realize its potential or not?". Other than for the past several months, it hasn't done a lot of realizing.
Still picking up gold on or ahead of schedule...no silver...also added a couple cases of pew pew food as that stuff's as cheap and available as it's ever going to be.
@@__Ryan_ 2012 was my wake-up call on ammo, so I stack ammo when it's cheap. It's cyclic, so buying cheap isn't that difficult. Same for reloading supplies, although the timing might be somewhat different.
I've been stacking for roughly 30 years, the one time I sold was in early 2012 because I was putting up a machinery shed and I still regret selling gold but the platinum sales are still looking good to this day.
Anybody who thinks it's a good idea to sell their gold hasn't been paying attention to the bond market lately. The reaction of the long term yields to Friday's PCE was a bit of a shock and yes, I know people came up with a bunch of narratives to justify the yield spike after the fact but the Friday's trading timeline shows these narratives are just garbage. When we look back a year or two from now, gold at $2300 will be considered cheap IMO.
actually, after having waited for the prices to calm down since March 4, I was going to buy. Prices have settled enough, they clearly aren't going far from what they did in the last week. However, starting from September, we might be facing an unknown rollercoaster: US elections, first rate cut?, second rate cut?, plus Gaza/Lebanon and Ukraine. So I'm planning to buy 5 coins between now and the end of August. Then, in the worst case, I'll wait January to see how things go and if prices settle again.
After 36 years of buying gold and silver, I sold 10 oz of random gold that just didn’t fit into my “collection” and 300 oz of generic silver. I did this over several weeks in April and May. It was a surreal feeling. The rest I will save for a later day. Maybe never…
If you’re in a situation where your forced to sell, you over invested and didn’t have an emergency plan. Selling should only be done of your own volition.
My theory is that I never want the market to decide when I sell something. I remember a lot of stock investors bailing out of shares at or near the bottom in very early 2009. At that time, I was buying up shares hand over fist. When the market recovered in March of 2009 and on into 2010-11, those cheap shares really zoomed. Those who sold then compounded their mistake by not being able to find a suitable entry point, so many of them never participated in the recovery for a double smack upside the head.
I'm right there with you for physical assets with higher premiums it is better to buy and hold until you absolutely need to sell. If you want to play a speculative game go to stocks where you basically can buy and sell commission free most places today.
The fact that spot gold is holding relatively steady over $2,300 in the face of the Fed saying they’re not ready to cut yet should speak volumes about the strength of gold and the rally ahead when they finally do. Just my personal opinion. Thanks for the video 👍
Fat stackers and slim stackers meaning tightening budgets slow or stop ability to stack physical and force a sale at times of emergency for some when absolutely cash on hand to take care of that is short. Only been in stacking a couple years so way behind compared to some decades stackers however thanks to channels like this I feel much more secure with g & s stacks vs paper. Nothing in system of fiat seems safe and questioned if you withdraw it. Stack on best you can physical assets gives that warm and fuzzy feeling of your own bank. Thanks for sharing your insight.
I recently rediscovered my stacks. I would only consider selling the broken 14k jewelry if thought I sold at peak price in 2011, and any 14k jewelry my wife has stashed. I have a 1-gram gold bar that was freed from it's assay card that I want to try to pound into a ring. Great video on an excellent subject. Thank you.
One thing I learned the hard way in the 11 years I've been buying gold: gold is something you buy and don't sell. I'm now just waiting, though, for the ATH again to sell a tiny portion of bars with brown spots that bug me a lot 🤦♀️
Well, well, well I buy and sell me gold everyday but I'll never sell me pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Thanks for the Time to SELL Your Gold video 2 is1 👍.......Happy 4th of July........Life is good.......God Bless
Love your set up btw, with a different classic read in your background. Agree with your not selling unless there is an urgent need... I plan on collecting with the purpose of never selling for any reason, and leaving it to pass on to my kids. Keep up all the great information! Enjoy looking at your stacks, and you have very listenable voice modulation. We appreciate your time as well in making these videos! ~ See you in Valhalla! 🗡
@2is1 would you be interested in engaging in some kind of debate or maybe a panel discussion with some of the silver stackers? We normally hear monologues of what people think of the “other” side. It would be great to get a live of “both” sides. It could be a great event for the viewers and offer lots of knowledge.
I offloaded some silver two weeks back because some assets I wanted went on sale. I hope to sell/offload every single ounce. Why? Because silver spends and I picked mine up to be in the best position to buy when the time comes. It's worked out this far. P.S. I WILL buy more in the future. My assets are bought with the intention to generate more silver for me.
No longer buying physical silver, have enough. Still buying pre 1933 gold coins, will not sell until we get hyperinflation and then only if I had to sell for a catastrophe.
Everyone please keep in mind saving in gold does have risk. For instance the last time gold topped to around 1700$ it dropped for the next 4 years for a total decline of around 40%. This is okay as long as you're informed. If you had to sell down 40% that would suck, but if you had a proper cash emergency fund and other assets besides gold, then you wouldn't need to sell your gold in a downturn. Just don't fall for the whole, it's safer to save in gold than cash. It's not, cash doesn't go down 40% in 4 years.
Miney has been tight for me recently and selling has seemed appealing but it goes against the fundamental reason i bought gold and silver. Im going to hold out as ling as i can but if i must sell then i will
You should have an exit strategy on things, even if that strategy is handing it down to kids or grandkids. but there is NOOO WAYY I would be selling my gold right now... We're just getting started on the climb up.
Glad to hear that. All too many people skip over the exit strategy via getting hung up on the never sell idea. I have an exit strategy for every single asset I buy and I have that *before* actually buying the asset.
Very useful charts presented to us. So thank you for fhat. I bought a couple of ounces in January of 2023. One ounce was from nationwide for $1875. I haven't been adding much since that, but I'm holding what.I have gotten in the past 5 years.
Not selling any gold because there is no need to sell at this time. I would sell silver and put that cash into gold if the numbers were favorable but currently they are not. I'm not one of those "never-sell" folks. I see their point but for me silver and gold are financial tools and tools are meant to be USED, not just stuck in a drawer or cabinet somewhere. It's basically about use case, so when the appropriate use case comes along, I'll sell. But the need to sell would have to be considerable and not just me wanting to spend some cash.
Robert Taylor is the best Ivanhoe watch that movie and remember king Richard’s ransom was 100,00 marks of silver a kings ransom interesting a true classic “I choose the Axe” He defies all 5 ❤ awesome movie 🎥
I sold 5 oz's at its peek a little bit ago. That was the rest of the funds needed to pay cash for my 2024 Z71 chev. I'm now in the process of buying back those 5 oz's. 1/4 oz at at time. Price in fiat doesn't matter to me unless I have to sell.
Ahh yes sell your wealth to buy a massive gas guzzling suv. That's the most usa thing I've ever heard I take my words back if you primarily use it for your job.
@Karim-ik5ij I didn't have a vehicle and I wanted one with warranty and no previous owner. I saved up for a year, then used some of my many oz's of gold, which the 5 sold, were bought specifically for this purpose. You do you, I'll do me. I did not want debt. I have no mortgage, no monthly payment on anything. Getting back those 5 oz's is no problem for me.
When the ratio was 90:1, I had never sold either metal before. So for obvious reasons, it felt like a good time to get my feet wet. Good choice, as I ended up with some surprise coins in a $100 bag of mercury dimes. I felt like I did good selling that gold, and switching to silver at that time. For me, silver is a no brainer at 90:1 as historically it doesn't hold for too long (forgetting the outlier of the pandemic). Generally, I don't sell my Gold though. Gold is a 'Hands off' retirement fund. Silver is speculative. But I firmly believe a 60:1 is well within the cards, and my Silver cost average is excellent. What I traded was of zero importance, so no regrets. But also understand that I believe 650 ounces of silver to be insufficient for me. I believe 1,500 I'll begin to feel heavy. I don't 'Sell' my metals, unless it REALLY feels like a blow off top(or an investment opportunity). But I suspect I won't even be interested there. ~20 years to retirement, and this is my nest egg.
I wonder where you're finding a 5% buy-sell spread, of +1% buy, +6% sell. As of this moment in time, today, July 3rd, the buy-sell spreads I find, both online and at my best local shop, range from the lowest at a 6% spread to mostly 7% and above, for a 2024 1oz American Gold Eagle: Kitco, 6% spread: +0.5%, +6.5% SD Bullion, 7.5% spread: +0.4%, +7.9% GoldSilver, 10.6% spread: +0.6%, +11.2% my best local shop, 7% spread: -1.5%, +5.5%
Interesting about SD Bullion's tight 3% spread on the 1oz Maple Leaf. Thanks for sharing that. I'm just starting out, looking to get into this, and have primarily been focusing on the 1oz Gold Eagle. Great channel you have; I've been learning a lot from it. Trying to get a feel for the buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot (for a 2024 1oz American Gold Eagle, paying by cash or check), and the spread between them, I have been logging on a spreadsheet the buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot for Kitco, SDBullion, GoldSilver, and my best local shop, about once a week, simultaneously at a specific moment in time (since the spot price is constantly moving). I just started this 3 weeks ago. I am not logging some of the other large online dealers like JM Bullion and APMEX that require you to set up an account with them in order to reveal their buy-side prices to you. I wouldn't consider buying from any dealer that isn't open and transparent with their buy-side prices, as Kitco, SD Bullion, and GoldSilver are. Speaking of GoldSilver, it's a great educational resource and I've learned a lot from Mike Maloney, but GoldSilver consistently has the most expensive pricing by far on its sell-side premiums. It's interesting watching these buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot slightly shifting over time, reflecting market conditions of supply and demand dynamics in the US. My local shop told me that he's usually at around spot or just slight over on the buy-side, but this year he's been below spot, currently at -1.5%, because he's seen no demand this year. Everyone is selling gold; that's all he's seeing and has been the entire story this year. It seems that people are selling their gold to free up needed cash, to pay their expenses, pay down debt, pay off their credit cards, etc. That is consistent with what has been seen over the course of this year with the massive outflows from the gold ETFs by both American institutional investors and American individuals, and is also consistent with what is typically seen in the early stages of a recession, where people sell some of their gold to free up cash. That can be seen in the US levels of credit card delinquencies and consumer bankruptcies that are climbing back up towards their 2008 highs. But despite the massive selling of gold from all quarters in the US, the gold price has increased 18% this year and is holding steady for the last 3 months above $2300, buoyed and propped up by all the buying in Asia, from central banks, institutions, and individuals. What this says is that the spot price of gold is largely determined and set in Asia, as the flows in Asia swamp and overwhelm those in the US. So I look at the spot price to tell me what the market conditions of supply and demand dynamics are in Asia, while I look at the buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot of US dealers, and how they change over time, to tell me what the market conditions of supply and demand dynamics are in the US. I'm a noob, just starting into this, so I'm not sure if my understanding and analysis is correct, but that's kind of how I'm seeing it. Love your channel!
Addendum ... Oops, I didn't read your reply carefully enough. OK, I see the quasi arb (at least narrowing the buy-sell spread) between SD Bullion and your local shop. Yeah, obviously that's the best way to go -- to separate the buying and selling transactions according to where you get the best price for each. Makes sense, good point. Thanks.
However, not to imply that I would potentially consider physical gold as a short-term (< 1 year) or even medium term (1-3 years) trading vehicle, for flipping, trading in and out of. I see it as I think you do, as being a long-term savings asset, store of wealth and hedge against inflation, not an investment per se but rather an alternative to cash, money market/T-bills. The way I have been looking at and analyzing it, with a 6 to 7 percentage point spread between buying and selling, the round-trip transaction costs result in my losing the first two years of inflation-protection appreciation, if inflation is around 3 to 3.5 percent a year. But if one can narrow that buy-sell spread to 3% by separating the buying and selling transactions to where one gets the best price for each, as you have pointed out with one current example, then that essentially brings the round-trip transaction cost down to just losing only the first year of inflation-protection appreciation, if inflation is around 3%. In any case, what these transaction costs show is that 1oz physical gold coins are clearly best suited as a long-term inflation-protecting hedged saving vehicle and asset, really meant to be held for 10 years and longer. Giving up the first year or two of inflation-protection appreciation due to the round-trip buy/sell spread will end up being a pittance, a negligible drop in the bucket and rounding error over a much longer term, out beyond 10 years. If one wants a short-term trading vehicle, there are ETFs like GLD and PHYS for that.
If you need to sell then you take what you can. Being in a very fortunate position I haven't had to sell a single ounce and keep adding nearly every month for the last seven years. The dips and highs come and go and just keep adding to the stack. When I can't put food on the table, fill the car up or enjoy a beer or two then I will revert to Plan B......not sure what Plan B is but it doesn't include giving up the Beer!!! Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
I'm not selling my precious gold just because the sooth sayers tell me it's "a good month". Gold and silver may only be about 10 - 15% of my financial assets, but as far as I'm concerned it's the bedrock of my wealth.
The way I see it every gain of gold I buy will either pass it on to my kids or use it as barter on a SHTF scenario... otherwise I just buy, bury and "forget".
If you can't trade in volume, speculating is pointless. Yeah you can make a couple grand if you're snappy about it, but you're gonna eat that down the road when you re-up, guaranteed.
If someone wants to invest and doesn't want their money tied up for 2 or 3 years. Then They should be in crypto. Hold for repricing which should put it above 3k in the next year or two.
I’ve just bought an ounce of gold after selling all my gold last year out of stupidity, probably stupidity buying now too 😂, it would be great to hear your opinion on me buying an ounce now and what you think I should do (plan is to start stacking as you and many others do)
I dont have much gold but for me its insurance, hope I never need it. Plus Im afraid it will go to 20-30k tho the circumstances we'd be under if that happened prolly wouldn't be fun so I hope it doesn't happen. And if all my other assets collapse then maybe gold will go so high I feel even. Maybe... lol
Just asking from those of you that has been stacking a long time. If you are already 70 yrs old, is gold or silver a better place to put your extra cash
I never worried about the gold or silver question. I started with silver at age 61. Three years later, I bought both. Six years later I called my silver stack complete, although I do buy a little when I see something really attractive to me at a decent price. I continue to buy gold because I haven't met my gold stacking goal. Hope to do that by sometime in 2025.
I gotta get that gold proof 2014 Libertad 1/10oz at $400 😱 Mintage 250 😱 In original capsule. Sending to NGC. Hoping for PF70 To flip or hold, that is the question.
Still have my first piece of gold from 1967... I'm pretty much a NO sell guy. Ever.
Nice!
And you still alive !!! Damn you must be at least 80
Must be a Krugerrand.
Bought my first Krugerrand in 1977.
@@coltharwood494 About when I bought my first... for $300!
I've never understood the mindset of selling physical gold to turn a profit. I buy physical to sell only when and if I need it. If you're in it to make a profit buy paper gold and skip having to store and look after the physical
Same.
I wouldn't even try it with paper gold. The best investment results I ever had was when I looked at my portfolio once per year. For the vast majority of people, trading is a losing game.
@@JoeBtfzplk I've traded stocks and done well with 18-25% returns on my trades in 4-8 weeks time. But it's just not satisfying. I don't feel as if I am building
anything of real value. It's just a way to extract capital from a market that needs a lot of capital working at building something really important. So, yes, I CAN do it, but
should I? No, not really. Same with trading options and futures, IMO.
When the crash happens your gold crashes too
Am I starving to death? No. Then I'm not selling.
hold gold sell silver
Exactly....emergencies only
@@hulitumhansen352 Got land. Got physical gold. Got physical silver. Got garden. Got orchard. Got God. Got dry powder. Got happiness. Will hold.
What will you do when the crash happens?
@@gianthills already have a self sufficient farm for food.
If you aren’t buying gold, you should be buying seeds.
Hold or get more Gold is the question
Gold is wealth,why would I sell my wealth
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Are you selling for free?😂 People flip houses, day trade, start up companies then sell, lots of people sell!
Amen! I didn't buy mine too make money, I bought it to protect my wealth.
Would be a gamble but if the market collapses. Gold is going down too. Like those who sold a bit at 32.45 earlier and are now buying back or waiting to. Be nice to know how much it would fall. Would t sell your collective pieces but generic bars ect for the profit would be fine. Danger of that tho is if the price is cut by half doesn’t do ya any good if there isn’t product to purchase. Then your caught with your pants down 😮
Jeeeee Ami bring to the grave
I stack metals to supplement my retirement. When that happens a few years from now I will slowly start selling to do the extra things I want to do. Ideally I'd like to be down to my last coin just before I take the long dirt nap.
This time of year last year I started stacking gold, I just bought my 16th ounce last week. I don't see myself selling ever unless I can finally get a big enough stack together to convert it into land or real estate.
You're already there depending on where. Nicely done!
Started 5 months ago. I’m up to 13 oz.
Unreal effort guys
In the last 91 years Gold has gold has risen 12,400% I’ll stick with historical figures…. Hold
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HODL
Gold price was fixed until 1971, so I would only count the increase since Nixon.
Gold was a global product on the global market despite what was happening in the US. US was still only priced by the US at $35 in the 1960s , while the global price was much higher.
@@peterbedford2610 There was a slight difference. Any more than slight would have created a much bigger arbitrage than there was. It is the same today between the Shanghai and COMEX prices. Shanghai spot price is 10 percent higher than COMEX, but physically moving that much silver is cost prohibitive. Let the Shanghai spot price get to 25% + and you will see tons of silver move (and I do mean tons). Just as you would have seen a good chunk of US gold leave if it was worth that much more elsewhere.
I have been getting some of my friends and family into stacking gold and silver. And the real fun thing about that is we buy from the same dealers so we know it's the real deal, if any of us need cash we can just trade the gold or silver for spot price, no premiums involved. This is so good. We basically have savings that while we hold it theres no risk unlike having savings in a bank and can convert it back into cash at spot prices at any time we want.
Smart.
Excellent move on your part - a family banking system. 👍
I'm not selling, my kid is waiting for his quiet untaxible inheritance. I would only sell in an emergency.
Exactly the reason i only buy. I wont sell unless worst case scenario.
Thanks for that tidbit JohnPower... I didn't know PM was untaxable!!
@@stevexracer Thanks Steve!
@@stevexracerthis is exactly right. Also according to the constitution it’s money.
Same
If it’s a short term holding yes. Now is the best time to sell. If it’s an emergency fund, yes now is the the time to hold. Or the second best time to buy (the best time was when the price was lower).
Do not sell UNLESS EMERGENCY, just keep stacking.
Just bought two more gold buffalo's on Monday.... I'm in for the long haul! Started buying when gold was under a thousand. Allowed me to pay off that mortgage when I sold my graded coins. Be kind to gold and it will take care of you! (Funny aside - as a college kid on an Archaeological trip to Mexico when Nixon took us off the gold standard, a young man on the crew bragged about buying a 1 ounce+ Mexican gold coin for $35.00... to this day I wonder if that kid kept that gold coin or sold it)
Nice!
"... to this day I wonder if that kid kept that gold coin or sold it"
I had the very same feeling when I watched a couple of men argue in a coin shop about buying a St. Gaudens $20 gold coin back in the day. One of them said, "Why pay $100 for a $20 coin?" while the other said, "Man that coin is gorgeous and should become more valuable in time." Dad and I left the book store / coin shop before they made a decision, so I've long wondered whether or not that coin was purchased that day and if so whether one of them kept it for a son or a grandson.
He's holding it forever, He knew the value of getting it for $35 enough to brag about it
Great video and thanks for the shoutout. I think you're spot on when you say that end of year price up trend may be playing out this year. If you factor in rate cuts, it looks like that is lining up perfectly.
I don’t even know what could change it. (I don’t want to know. 😄)
Precious metals are preservation of wealth. I'll hold as long as I can!
I bought a NGC MS61 1895 $20 Gold eagle in 2007 for $430. Market value todays is $2470. I'm not selling. Wished I had bought more back then.
I think it depends on how you treat it, as an investment, as a commodity or an emergency fund. A dealer will take a cut, the market can get flooded when the price is high, online auction sites will take a fee. I have sold to a dealer and took the hit, put the money in my pension and got the hit back in tax benefits.
War and national disasters will make prices high, supply and demand principal.
Just my thoughts. Now is not a good time to sell just because the entire formula for "what's next?" is not looking great for anything right now.
No intentions of selling gold. Slowly selling almost all of my silver for AU
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At a GSR near 80?? That makes no sense.
You mean in the future when silver runs?
@@ItsEverythingElse Silver has always had a "lot of potential" but the REAL question is, "Will it ever
realize its potential or not?". Other than for the past several months, it hasn't done a lot of realizing.
It should hit fourty not soon but around the corner. When 32 becomes the resistance we will see the run up to 40. According to Kitco latest analysts
Hold until recession hits buy real estate
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My strategy, instead of holding cash
Yes and keep the gold and take out loan against it
I used to like that idea. But, the taxation of property is a YUGE issue in my state. No taxes on money in our state. Just hold.
Great video 2is1. Thank you for your perspective.
Still picking up gold on or ahead of schedule...no silver...also added a couple cases of pew pew food as that stuff's as cheap and available as it's ever going to be.
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I loaded up on ammo a while back when it was actually cheap.
@@__Ryan_ 2012 was my wake-up call on ammo, so I stack ammo when it's cheap. It's cyclic, so buying
cheap isn't that difficult. Same for reloading supplies, although the timing might be somewhat different.
Gold isn't an investment for me. It is an emergency fund.
Good plan.
Exactly
And savings.
Gold for Savings, cash should be for emergencys
I invest in Pokémon cards and it has performed better than all of my other investments 😊
Why sell what will be the last man standing.
I've been stacking for roughly 30 years, the one time I sold was in early 2012 because I was putting up a machinery shed and I still regret selling gold but the platinum sales are still looking good to this day.
It's funny. Uncle Warren always poo-poos on gold as an asset but inadvertently defined the desired holding period as "forever." Gotta love it! 😊
Anybody who thinks it's a good idea to sell their gold hasn't been paying attention to the bond market lately. The reaction of the long term yields to Friday's PCE was a bit of a shock and yes, I know people came up with a bunch of narratives to justify the yield spike after the fact but the Friday's trading timeline shows these narratives are just garbage. When we look back a year or two from now, gold at $2300 will be considered cheap IMO.
That's the most likely case for sure.
actually, after having waited for the prices to calm down since March 4, I was going to buy. Prices have settled enough, they clearly aren't going far from what they did in the last week. However, starting from September, we might be facing an unknown rollercoaster: US elections, first rate cut?, second rate cut?, plus Gaza/Lebanon and Ukraine. So I'm planning to buy 5 coins between now and the end of August. Then, in the worst case, I'll wait January to see how things go and if prices settle again.
Yeah, lots of potential news later this year. Cheers!
After 36 years of buying gold and silver, I sold 10 oz of random gold that just didn’t fit into my “collection” and 300 oz of generic silver. I did this over several weeks in April and May. It was a surreal feeling. The rest I will save for a later day. Maybe never…
I have some random stuff I’ll sell at some point too. Not a bad idea to move less popular stuff when spot is high. Cheers!
If you’re in a situation where your forced to sell, you over invested and didn’t have an emergency plan. Selling should only be done of your own volition.
My theory is that I never want the market to decide when I sell something. I remember a lot of stock investors bailing out of shares at or near the bottom in very early 2009.
At that time, I was buying up shares hand over fist. When the market recovered in March of 2009 and on into 2010-11, those cheap shares really zoomed. Those who sold
then compounded their mistake by not being able to find a suitable entry point, so many of them never participated in the recovery for a double smack upside the head.
I'm right there with you for physical assets with higher premiums it is better to buy and hold until you absolutely need to sell. If you want to play a speculative game go to stocks where you basically can buy and sell commission free most places today.
The fact that spot gold is holding relatively steady over $2,300 in the face of the Fed saying they’re not ready to cut yet should speak volumes about the strength of gold and the rally ahead when they finally do. Just my personal opinion. Thanks for the video 👍
Agreed. Price has reason to fall, but it hasn’t.
Fat stackers and slim stackers meaning tightening budgets slow or stop ability to stack physical and force a sale at times of emergency for some when absolutely cash on hand to take care of that is short. Only been in stacking a couple years so way behind compared to some decades stackers however thanks to channels like this I feel much more secure with g & s stacks vs paper. Nothing in system of fiat seems safe and questioned if you withdraw it. Stack on best you can physical assets gives that warm and fuzzy feeling of your own bank. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Cheers!
I recently rediscovered my stacks.
I would only consider selling the broken 14k jewelry if thought I sold at peak price in 2011, and any 14k jewelry my wife has stashed.
I have a 1-gram gold bar that was freed from it's assay card that I want to try to pound into a ring.
Great video on an excellent subject.
Thank you.
One thing I learned the hard way in the 11 years I've been buying gold: gold is something you buy and don't sell. I'm now just waiting, though, for the ATH again to sell a tiny portion of bars with brown spots that bug me a lot 🤦♀️
Well, well, well I buy and sell me gold everyday but I'll never sell me pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Thanks for the Time to SELL Your Gold video 2 is1 👍.......Happy 4th of July........Life is good.......God Bless
Happy 4th!
Love your set up btw, with a different classic read in your background. Agree with your not selling unless there is an urgent need... I plan on collecting with the purpose of never selling for any reason, and leaving it to pass on to my kids. Keep up all the great information! Enjoy looking at your stacks, and you have very listenable voice modulation. We appreciate your time as well in making these videos! ~ See you in Valhalla! 🗡
Thank you - cheers!
@2is1 would you be interested in engaging in some kind of debate or maybe a panel discussion with some of the silver stackers? We normally hear monologues of what people think of the “other” side. It would be great to get a live of “both” sides. It could be a great event for the viewers and offer lots of knowledge.
💯 to you all .
Holding and trying to stack more when able .
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Not stacking for investment, stacking for when SHTF, so not selling.
As long as you trade paper for Gold any price is a steal 😊
I offloaded some silver two weeks back because some assets I wanted went on sale. I hope to sell/offload every single ounce. Why? Because silver spends and I picked mine up to be in the best position to buy when the time comes. It's worked out this far.
P.S. I WILL buy more in the future. My assets are bought with the intention to generate more silver for me.
I’ve sold to open up capital for other things a few times. Cheers!
No longer buying physical silver, have enough. Still buying pre 1933 gold coins, will not sell until we get hyperinflation and then only if I had to sell for a catastrophe.
Sell in May and go away didn’t work out well with Apple and Tesla. Mercy!!
Glad I ignored the AAPL advice I got from my pro. 😂 🚀
@@2is1gold yeah bro I’ve been buying steadily for the past few years.
Everyone please keep in mind saving in gold does have risk. For instance the last time gold topped to around 1700$ it dropped for the next 4 years for a total decline of around 40%. This is okay as long as you're informed. If you had to sell down 40% that would suck, but if you had a proper cash emergency fund and other assets besides gold, then you wouldn't need to sell your gold in a downturn. Just don't fall for the whole, it's safer to save in gold than cash. It's not, cash doesn't go down 40% in 4 years.
Great vid as always and fantastic analysis! I just dont plan on sellin for another 5-10 years anyway.
Thanks!
It's too much a part of the family to sell unless I need to buy food. I can't imagine that ever happening.
I’m also buying gold for savings, it makes no sense to trade it back for fiat. That’s what stocks are for.
Hey... , why are you eavesdropping on my calculator boss😂😂😂... Jk, hope you are well, thought I'd drop somthing for the youtube algorithm 😎✌️
Ha, thanks!
As soon as Gold hit $2k per oz, I switched over to stocks and investing. I don’t like how slow gold is moving. It should be a minimum of $2500 per oz
Miney has been tight for me recently and selling has seemed appealing but it goes against the fundamental reason i bought gold and silver. Im going to hold out as ling as i can but if i must sell then i will
Planning to build a house, might sell withing 6 months if prices keep rolling higher. Baught in at 1700 so might lock in returns.
I'm not selling and I can't imagine a scenario where I would. I'm waiting for the price to drop.
When the price of my position has doubled i would sell 25%, and be very relaxed thereafter.
My goldbacks have gone up and i can always sell back to them, but thats not its purpose. It is for transactional use during the currency collapse.
Great video brother thanks for the info 🥃🥃🥃
Thanks Nate! 🥃
I'd only sell if i absolutely needed to or if there was another asset that has dropped and is under valved that ive been waiting to buy.
You should have an exit strategy on things, even if that strategy is handing it down to kids or grandkids. but there is NOOO WAYY I would be selling my gold right now... We're just getting started on the climb up.
Glad to hear that. All too many people skip over the exit strategy via getting hung up on the never sell idea.
I have an exit strategy for every single asset I buy and I have that *before* actually buying the asset.
@@edb3877 totally agree
I’m still buying. Still got goals to accomplish
Very useful charts presented to us. So thank you for fhat. I bought a couple of ounces in January of 2023. One ounce was from nationwide for $1875. I haven't been adding much since that, but I'm holding what.I have gotten in the past 5 years.
Cheers!
I hold precious metals to hedge against fiat itself. Not selling, but not buying either. Waiting a bit for a sale. 😅
Yes, sell your gold
So I can buy it
Hold until price goes up, then keep holding until it goes up more.
That's my plan, anyway.
Ha. Good plan.
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Why sell now as prices will come up in late autumn? And in a world with geopolitics like these???
I picked up two recently and plan on picking up two Flowing Hair Gold ones from the US Mint when they’re available
Why would I sell gold unless I needed to money for something urgent or to invest in real estate?
Thank you for the video.
Thanks for watching!
currently buying gold futures for the swing
Not selling any gold because there is no need to sell at this time. I would sell silver and put that cash into gold if the numbers were favorable but
currently they are not. I'm not one of those "never-sell" folks. I see their point but for me silver and gold are financial tools and tools are meant to
be USED, not just stuck in a drawer or cabinet somewhere. It's basically about use case, so when the appropriate use case comes along, I'll sell.
But the need to sell would have to be considerable and not just me wanting to spend some cash.
I see it similarly.
@@2is1gold I think that we probably have quite a bit in common, especially as regards gold. 😄
I don't sell normally. The deal has to be pretty good for me to take a hit.
Long term stacking FTW.
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Not even wishful thinking, every oz I don't sell is more of an increase in my pension year over year! 😅
Year end promises to be interesting. Better hold that Au and see what happens.
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Robert Taylor is the best Ivanhoe watch that movie and remember king Richard’s ransom was 100,00 marks of silver a kings ransom interesting a true classic “I choose the Axe” He defies all 5 ❤ awesome movie 🎥
I've never sold gold but would like to just for the experience to see how it goes see if I made any mistakes etc.
Nothing wrong with a trial run, just be sure to call around to see what prices you can get. A 1/4 oz. coin would make a good trial.
I sold 5 oz's at its peek a little bit ago. That was the rest of the funds needed to pay cash for my 2024 Z71 chev. I'm now in the process of buying back those 5 oz's. 1/4 oz at at time. Price in fiat doesn't matter to me unless I have to sell.
Ahh yes sell your wealth to buy a massive gas guzzling suv. That's the most usa thing I've ever heard
I take my words back if you primarily use it for your job.
@Karim-ik5ij I didn't have a vehicle and I wanted one with warranty and no previous owner. I saved up for a year, then used some of my many oz's of gold, which the 5 sold, were bought specifically for this purpose. You do you, I'll do me. I did not want debt. I have no mortgage, no monthly payment on anything. Getting back those 5 oz's is no problem for me.
When the ratio was 90:1, I had never sold either metal before.
So for obvious reasons, it felt like a good time to get my feet wet. Good choice, as I ended up with some surprise coins in a $100 bag of mercury dimes. I felt like I did good selling that gold, and switching to silver at that time. For me, silver is a no brainer at 90:1 as historically it doesn't hold for too long (forgetting the outlier of the pandemic).
Generally, I don't sell my Gold though. Gold is a 'Hands off' retirement fund. Silver is speculative. But I firmly believe a 60:1 is well within the cards, and my Silver cost average is excellent. What I traded was of zero importance, so no regrets.
But also understand that I believe 650 ounces of silver to be insufficient for me. I believe 1,500 I'll begin to feel heavy.
I don't 'Sell' my metals, unless it REALLY feels like a blow off top(or an investment opportunity). But I suspect I won't even be interested there. ~20 years to retirement, and this is my nest egg.
Just holding it until I’m desperate or dead. No need to sell figure I’ll just keep stacking.
Sell? Heck no! I'm buying!!! My gold is like my firearms. Never sold one of them either.
I'm worried if I don't have any chance to buy them back after sale. 😅
I wonder where you're finding a 5% buy-sell spread, of +1% buy, +6% sell. As of this moment in time, today, July 3rd, the buy-sell spreads I find, both online and at my best local shop, range from the lowest at a 6% spread to mostly 7% and above, for a 2024 1oz American Gold Eagle:
Kitco, 6% spread: +0.5%, +6.5%
SD Bullion, 7.5% spread: +0.4%, +7.9%
GoldSilver, 10.6% spread: +0.6%, +11.2%
my best local shop, 7% spread: -1.5%, +5.5%
SDBullion has 1oz Gold Maple Leafs for 3% premium. My local shop will buy them from me for spot. So there’s a 3% spread. 🤷
Interesting about SD Bullion's tight 3% spread on the 1oz Maple Leaf. Thanks for sharing that. I'm just starting out, looking to get into this, and have primarily been focusing on the 1oz Gold Eagle. Great channel you have; I've been learning a lot from it.
Trying to get a feel for the buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot (for a 2024 1oz American Gold Eagle, paying by cash or check), and the spread between them, I have been logging on a spreadsheet the buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot for Kitco, SDBullion, GoldSilver, and my best local shop, about once a week, simultaneously at a specific moment in time (since the spot price is constantly moving). I just started this 3 weeks ago. I am not logging some of the other large online dealers like JM Bullion and APMEX that require you to set up an account with them in order to reveal their buy-side prices to you. I wouldn't consider buying from any dealer that isn't open and transparent with their buy-side prices, as Kitco, SD Bullion, and GoldSilver are.
Speaking of GoldSilver, it's a great educational resource and I've learned a lot from Mike Maloney, but GoldSilver consistently has the most expensive pricing by far on its sell-side premiums.
It's interesting watching these buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot slightly shifting over time, reflecting market conditions of supply and demand dynamics in the US.
My local shop told me that he's usually at around spot or just slight over on the buy-side, but this year he's been below spot, currently at -1.5%, because he's seen no demand this year. Everyone is selling gold; that's all he's seeing and has been the entire story this year. It seems that people are selling their gold to free up needed cash, to pay their expenses, pay down debt, pay off their credit cards, etc.
That is consistent with what has been seen over the course of this year with the massive outflows from the gold ETFs by both American institutional investors and American individuals, and is also consistent with what is typically seen in the early stages of a recession, where people sell some of their gold to free up cash. That can be seen in the US levels of credit card delinquencies and consumer bankruptcies that are climbing back up towards their 2008 highs.
But despite the massive selling of gold from all quarters in the US, the gold price has increased 18% this year and is holding steady for the last 3 months above $2300, buoyed and propped up by all the buying in Asia, from central banks, institutions, and individuals.
What this says is that the spot price of gold is largely determined and set in Asia, as the flows in Asia swamp and overwhelm those in the US. So I look at the spot price to tell me what the market conditions of supply and demand dynamics are in Asia, while I look at the buy and sell premiums/discounts over/under spot of US dealers, and how they change over time, to tell me what the market conditions of supply and demand dynamics are in the US.
I'm a noob, just starting into this, so I'm not sure if my understanding and analysis is correct, but that's kind of how I'm seeing it. Love your channel!
Addendum ... Oops, I didn't read your reply carefully enough. OK, I see the quasi arb (at least narrowing the buy-sell spread) between SD Bullion and your local shop. Yeah, obviously that's the best way to go -- to separate the buying and selling transactions according to where you get the best price for each. Makes sense, good point. Thanks.
However, not to imply that I would potentially consider physical gold as a short-term (< 1 year) or even medium term (1-3 years) trading vehicle, for flipping, trading in and out of. I see it as I think you do, as being a long-term savings asset, store of wealth and hedge against inflation, not an investment per se but rather an alternative to cash, money market/T-bills.
The way I have been looking at and analyzing it, with a 6 to 7 percentage point spread between buying and selling, the round-trip transaction costs result in my losing the first two years of inflation-protection appreciation, if inflation is around 3 to 3.5 percent a year.
But if one can narrow that buy-sell spread to 3% by separating the buying and selling transactions to where one gets the best price for each, as you have pointed out with one current example, then that essentially brings the round-trip transaction cost down to just losing only the first year of inflation-protection appreciation, if inflation is around 3%.
In any case, what these transaction costs show is that 1oz physical gold coins are clearly best suited as a long-term inflation-protecting hedged saving vehicle and asset, really meant to be held for 10 years and longer. Giving up the first year or two of inflation-protection appreciation due to the round-trip buy/sell spread will end up being a pittance, a negligible drop in the bucket and rounding error over a much longer term, out beyond 10 years.
If one wants a short-term trading vehicle, there are ETFs like GLD and PHYS for that.
I just don’t see selling my gold or silver….i can’t imagine not having it
If you need to sell then you take what you can. Being in a very fortunate position I haven't had to sell a single ounce and keep adding nearly every month for the last seven years. The dips and highs come and go and just keep adding to the stack. When I can't put food on the table, fill the car up or enjoy a beer or two then I will revert to Plan B......not sure what Plan B is but it doesn't include giving up the Beer!!! Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Ha!
I'm not selling my precious gold just because the sooth sayers tell me it's "a good month". Gold and silver may only be about 10 - 15% of my financial assets, but as far as I'm concerned it's the bedrock of my wealth.
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And then wat jou buy
Why would i trade in my SHTF insurance for fiat currency?
Do you think it'll ever come close to where it was around the beginning of this year?
I'd be surprised if we saw a dip below $2k any time soon.
The way I see it every gain of gold I buy will either pass it on to my kids or use it as barter on a SHTF scenario... otherwise I just buy, bury and "forget".
If you can't trade in volume, speculating is pointless. Yeah you can make a couple grand if you're snappy about it, but you're gonna eat that down the road when you re-up, guaranteed.
Sell for what? Exchanging back into fiat, unless you are talking about another type of commodity.
Im going to skip the video and just SELL EVERYTHING! Thanks for the reminder!
Happy to help.
I was pondering the other day. Twenty years from now what'll be worth more. An ounce of gold or 1,250 units of 556... dunno
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Units of 62 gr armor piercing should do very well.
If someone wants to invest and doesn't want their money tied up for 2 or 3 years.
Then
They should be in crypto.
Hold for repricing which should put it above 3k in the next year or two.
Selling now would be dumb it's about to go to 3,000 by the fall. I will not sell any until I must. And I'll sell all the silver first
I’ve just bought an ounce of gold after selling all my gold last year out of stupidity, probably stupidity buying now too 😂, it would be great to hear your opinion on me buying an ounce now and what you think I should do (plan is to start stacking as you and many others do)
DON'T OWN IF YOU CANT AFFORD, KEEP IT SIMPLE
Yeah, good rule.
By Gold do you refer to Bullion or Collectables? Different Strategies apply . Cheers!
I dont have much gold but for me its insurance, hope I never need it. Plus Im afraid it will go to 20-30k tho the circumstances we'd be under if that happened prolly wouldn't be fun so I hope it doesn't happen. And if all my other assets collapse then maybe gold will go so high I feel even. Maybe... lol
Just asking from those of you that has been stacking a long time. If you are already 70 yrs old, is gold or silver a better place to put your extra cash
I never worried about the gold or silver question. I started with silver at age 61. Three years later, I bought both. Six years later I called my silver stack complete,
although I do buy a little when I see something really attractive to me at a decent price. I continue to buy gold because I haven't met my gold stacking goal. Hope
to do that by sometime in 2025.
I was just looking at my 18" tall stack of doubble eagles im just gonna keep them
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I gotta get that gold proof 2014 Libertad 1/10oz at $400 😱
Mintage 250 😱
In original capsule.
Sending to NGC.
Hoping for PF70
To flip or hold, that is the question.
If there is a crash your gold drops