Just to say that I'm loving your reviews. They're one of the few fly rod reviews I trust on youtube because the moment someone takes the time to learn to cast well they should then realise that many reviews are done by charlatans who can't really cast to a hight standard. Enjoy your reviews and your unselfconscious proficient casting.
How does the Scott Centric 9’ 6wt compare to the Helios 3d 6wt? They reason I ask is I have experience with the 3d 6wt and was looking for a comparison if you could be of any assistance, it would be really appreciated. Thanks the videos are great
If you've ever considered doing 9'6" 6wt shootout between Centric, Nam Ren, Sage R8 and whatever you happen to find in that size, this would be the moment. Nam and Scott have both geared theirs for underhand casting for trout and light salmon angling in Iceland and similar places. So exactly what I'd like. Especially testing all of them with long overhead taper for distance, presentation and accuracy, maybe comparison between SA Trout and Infinity tapers as well as pushing the limits with underhand casting steramers with GL Bullet type line and finding out if there are differences in ideal line weight between different 6wt rods.
Daniel, I just brought home a new 9ft. 7wt. Centric today because your 3 rod test cleared the air for me, showed me just what this rod is. It is a 35 to 105 foot rod with tip control finesse inside 45 and the backbone for 105. I have the 9'6" 6wt Radian (my do-everything freshwater rod) and 8, 9 and 10wt Meridians but had a hole at 7wt. It's too hard to find a 7wt. Meridian anymore so I was looking at NRX+, Sage X and Burkheimer. Your review showed me the Centric has just what I was looking for in a 7wt. Yes, I'm a Scott guy but for good reason, right? You are a 100% dedicated fly fisherman and I would love to bring this rod over and hunt sea trout with you one day. Cheers from CA, USA.
Like your reviews I own both 5 & 6 in the Radian outstanding rods recently purchased Centric in 6 wt have fished with this rod all I can say is WOW 😮 was blowed away this will be my favourite New Zealand South Island rod you have to get the the 6wt centric you will not be disappointed.
Met a fellow angler yesterday, on his way back to his vehicle with his brand new Scott Centric, which had broken off it's tip while casting. Luckily he had his Kilwell Innovation with him, which he was able to use to land a couple of nice brown trout, without any problem!
Is there a big difference between the 5 and 6 weight for the Centric in your opinion. Will buy rod that can do both river and some coastal fishing (90 procent river and 10 procent coastal) //Thanks S
What line are you throwing on your radian? I own a radian 10’ 7wt, it’s my salmon & sea trout rod for rivers, also doubles as an excellent still water rod from the belly boat. However i think im going to pick up a Scott sector 9’ 8wt for coastal sea trout, and a big streamer rod for trout, and a light pike rod lol
Great review, as always. If you were selling cars or life insurance you'd make a fortune. Could you please tell me what S.A. line you're using there as I can't quite make out the name when you mentioned it. I have the Igniter 905 and haven't really found a suitable line for it yet for throwing large hoppers and cicada patterns a fair distance. Thanks.
Hello zeissOholic. I use the Volantis 14 gram. that is the #5. This line is produced for Flyfisheurope from Scientific, so it is avaible in Eu, but i dont think you can get it outside Eu Here is a link: nordicanglers.com/en/fly-fishing/fly-lines-shooting-heads-and-more/wf-fly-lines/kystliner.html
@@NordicAnglers 14 grams is comparable to a heavy 8 weight line! I can understand using such a heavy line (a shooting head basically) for coastal fishing where you want to cast as far as possible to cover lots of water but acclaiming that the rod (rated as a 5 weight) casts nice using this line (almost a 9 weight) is a bit strange to say the least...
@@ibookje 14g almost a 9wt line? What are you talking about. The ancient system of line weights you are referring to is no longer relevant in the real world. Todays modern rods and lines are different. Welcome to the future.
Your enthusiasm is very catching, but a few critical notes. 1) How can you say it's accurate while pounding 18-20 meters of line? Show us with the fly landing on a target! 2) Why not cast short to medium distances (6-10 m) and see/show how the rod feels. Does it give feedback at these distances to say it's also suitable for fishing small to medium size rivers?
Hello ibookje. Those are good points. When you do a video like this often it takes several take to get the best possible speak. I could have done an better job at showing it cast precisely in the video. However I did use it specifically with dryfly and it is quite accurate. I am sorry it that does not show properly in the video
@@NordicAnglers I can understand that making a video is always complicated. Rods like the Centric 'invites' a caster to throw a mile and that's what I ALWAYS see at fly shows. How can one decide to buy a rod (doesn't mind if it's $1000 or $100) by just casting 20m?...
Well i would like to try that one out :) However I must say that i am always sceptical when ever a company proclaims they have designed there rod from a new almost magic material :) All the high end rod companies have access to the same materials and technologies. It is how they shape, taper and cross the fibres that makes up the difference of the high end rods, not some some new magic material that is only one atom thick and only one company have access to. :)
@@NordicAnglers Beulah the innovators of spey...have been using it to great acclaim and mackenzie was using it before them. Its not a proprietary material used by "Vision"
Some great perspectives! And, I love that this review comes from a very good caster (which you are). I see so, so, so many rod reviews here on RUclips where the reviewer is perhaps, at best, a mediocre caster so, to me, it's difficult to have their reviews provide much merit about the rod's performance. Thank you! Scott really has been kicking out some fine rods. I love the beauty and quality of Winston rods but, for me, but the top Scott rods are nearly as nicely finished as the Winstons, and perform (in my opinion) much better. This is not to disparage Winston, but why not buy beauty AND performance with a Scott? That Sage igniter action sounds and personality sounds similar to the old TCR; I remember casting that rod in local competitions, and that rod was a very particular and demanding mistress. It was not very forgiving, but when you found the sweet spot, oh boy were you rewarded! I appreciate your perspectives on the Radian and the Centric. To me it sounds like back in the day when the XP was Sage's #1 rod and then Sage introduced the Z Axis. The XP was much stiffer than the Z, and the Z was smoother and would flex more easily into the blank. My buddies and I, when casting for distance, thought the Z Axis would fold, but it did not! We would be able to eke out a few more feet with the Z than we could with the XP., and the Z was an 'easier' rod to cast, kind of like how you compare the Radian and the Centric. Of note is how much you love your Radian, that you have fished for years, and sum up your review that, if given a choice between these three rods, all things being equal you would take the Centric. That says it all. Thanks so much for putting together this video! P.S. When practicing on the grass, like where you are, I put down on the ground a small 5'x7' plastic tarp I keep in my car for emergency purposes (say, to put down on the ground if I need to change a tire, or put down on the grass as a line catcher, or many things for which a tarp can be handy!). IT folds flat and virtually takes up no space and has been super handy to have available, when needed. :-)
@nordicanglers I'm looking to purchase a Scott centric 9ft/5 and looking to pick up a really nice reel also. Is the centric front heavy as the radian. Beacuse I'm looking on einarsson 5plus vs nautilus x 5-6. It's 30 g more on the einarsson and wanting a well balanced flyrod is wery important to me.
Would Centric 904 be a good choice for a dry fly rod. I wanna be able to cast dries att all distances, even far out long. I was thinking on G Series but i read that they lack on power for long cast when u need it. And btw, can u rekomend a 904 dry fly rod if u just need to pick only 1? Ty for nice videos👌👌👌
For dry fly and dry fly only rod, depending on the size of fish you are targeting of course, 8'6" #4 will be better. The Centric is amazing rod, you won't be disappointed.
Having tested back to back Radian 1005 and Centric 1005 i totally disagree the Centric is faster. It isn't. Centric is slower. Make no mistake tho-it is a fantastic rod. For real life distances-short and medium it is more precise than the Radian. Radian is better at long distances-the entire line plus some backing out distances. Centric lacks the sonic boom Radian has when loaded properly with lots of line. It is however in my view the better rod for daily use. The difference is not big enough to sell your Radian and buy a Centric but in any other scenario I can wholeheartedly recommend the Centric. It is fantastic rod.
have the radian in 6wt, great rod... bought the centric in 9' 4wt and it's a beautiful flyrod, casts very well with SA infinity . However my favorite rod is a sage x in 4wt , I can roll cast that thing about 10ft farther than the centric using the same line
Very enthustiastic review :-) Why is it that most fly rod reviews always end up beeing some sort of distance competition? A fly rod has to do much more than beeing some sort of rocket launcher.
There will always be uncovered aspects in a review. We are covering the rod, as we would use it. And that is mostly fishing at a distance (coastal, foam ect) OC there will other properties in the short game :)
DO NOT buy a scott rod the tips brake to easy!!! I have two radian rods one rod the tip broke twice and the other one broke once! Comment me and I'll tell you how ! You won't believe it!!!
@@johngower2345 nope just stringing your line up .they must of had a bad spot in the graphite paper and when they rolled it. I have two rods with different serial numbers and the both did it in the very same spot on both rods . Sent them in to get fixed and they gave me a hassle about it . Got them back and one of them never did it agin and the other did it agin a week later. I told them that they may have a spot in the graphite paper may have gotten creased some how and that's why they were braking in the same spot . Jimmy said I was crazy and I told him he is full of shit right to his face at the denver show. His girlfriend had to defuse the situation because he a asshole. So no not a car door smart ass.
Absolutely amazing review! Love the level of detail. Thank you for your honest take.
Someone who is actually casting the rod and giving a review - what a concept! Thanks
Just to say that I'm loving your reviews. They're one of the few fly rod reviews I trust on youtube because the moment someone takes the time to learn to cast well they should then realise that many reviews are done by charlatans who can't really cast to a hight standard. Enjoy your reviews and your unselfconscious proficient casting.
How does the Scott Centric 9’ 6wt compare to the Helios 3d 6wt? They reason I ask is I have experience with the 3d 6wt and was looking for a comparison if you could be of any assistance, it would be really appreciated. Thanks the videos are great
If you've ever considered doing 9'6" 6wt shootout between Centric, Nam Ren, Sage R8 and whatever you happen to find in that size, this would be the moment. Nam and Scott have both geared theirs for underhand casting for trout and light salmon angling in Iceland and similar places. So exactly what I'd like. Especially testing all of them with long overhead taper for distance, presentation and accuracy, maybe comparison between SA Trout and Infinity tapers as well as pushing the limits with underhand casting steramers with GL Bullet type line and finding out if there are differences in ideal line weight between different 6wt rods.
Daniel, I just brought home a new 9ft. 7wt. Centric today because your 3 rod test cleared the air for me, showed me just what this rod is. It is a 35 to 105 foot rod with tip control finesse inside 45 and the backbone for 105. I have the 9'6" 6wt Radian (my do-everything freshwater rod) and 8, 9 and 10wt Meridians but had a hole at 7wt. It's too hard to find a 7wt. Meridian anymore so I was looking at NRX+, Sage X and Burkheimer. Your review showed me the Centric has just what I was looking for in a 7wt. Yes, I'm a Scott guy but for good reason, right? You are a 100% dedicated fly fisherman and I would love to bring this rod over and hunt sea trout with you one day. Cheers from CA, USA.
Thank you :) Happy that i could help :) Scott FTW
What is the name of the line that casts on the Scott Centrix in the Video on RUclips?
Like your reviews I own both 5 & 6 in the Radian outstanding rods recently purchased Centric in 6 wt
have fished with this rod all I can say is WOW 😮 was blowed away this will be my favourite New Zealand
South Island rod you have to get the the 6wt centric
you will not be disappointed.
The Centric is just a solid rod! Period (y)
Hej Daniel.
Ved du hvordan centrik er i forhold til orvis Helios 3D.
Er på jagt efter en ny 5’er og tænkte på en af de 2
Hej Mathias. Det er længe siden jeg har prøvet Helios desværre så det kan jeg ikke sige noget konkret om desværre
Thank you for the video! What size of the nautilus reel do you use with the 5weight centric, is it the XL? killer looking Combo...
Hello I use the Xm for a 5wt and Xl for a 6wt :) you could use the Xl on a 5 also
Met a fellow angler yesterday, on his way back to his vehicle with his brand new Scott Centric, which had broken off it's tip while casting. Luckily he had his Kilwell Innovation with him, which he was able to use to land a couple of nice brown trout, without any problem!
My 5 weight centric tip broke as i was threading the line up it and pulling it out of the rod. 3 months for a new tip ffs.
Hello !
What do you think about Scott radian 9’ #4 ? 😬
Hello from France !
Is there a big difference between the 5 and 6 weight for the Centric in your opinion. Will buy rod that can do both river and some coastal fishing (90 procent river and 10 procent coastal) //Thanks S
What line are you throwing on your radian? I own a radian 10’ 7wt, it’s my salmon & sea trout rod for rivers, also doubles as an excellent still water rod from the belly boat. However i think im going to pick up a Scott sector 9’ 8wt for coastal sea trout, and a big streamer rod for trout, and a light pike rod lol
Great review, as always. If you were selling cars or life insurance you'd make a fortune. Could you please tell me what S.A. line you're using there as I can't quite make out the name when you mentioned it. I have the Igniter 905 and haven't really found a suitable line for it yet for throwing large hoppers and cicada patterns a fair distance. Thanks.
Hello zeissOholic. I use the Volantis 14 gram. that is the #5. This line is produced for Flyfisheurope from Scientific, so it is avaible in Eu, but i dont think you can get it outside Eu
Here is a link: nordicanglers.com/en/fly-fishing/fly-lines-shooting-heads-and-more/wf-fly-lines/kystliner.html
@@NordicAnglers 14 grams is comparable to a heavy 8 weight line!
I can understand using such a heavy line (a shooting head basically) for coastal fishing where you want to cast as far as possible to cover lots of water but acclaiming that the rod (rated as a 5 weight) casts nice using this line (almost a 9 weight) is a bit strange to say the least...
@@ibookje 14g almost a 9wt line? What are you talking about. The ancient system of line weights you are referring to is no longer relevant in the real world. Todays modern rods and lines are different. Welcome to the future.
@@NordicAnglers Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm in New Zealand but have a son living in France so I might try to get that line through him.
@@ibookje If it works, it works.
The SA Volantis line head is 14g for the 5 weight, so is probably a bit heavier than a standard 5 rating. Good review.
We often like to over power a bit, and this rod can easily handle it…
What a great caster you are 👍🎣
Super video Daniel.. 👍😁🎣
Hej Vilken lina skulle du rekommendera till ett Sector 9" #6 för Svenska kusten ?
Den her: nordicanglers.com/da/rio-premier-coastal-seatrout-slickcast-s1-hover.html
What’s your thoughts on the Tidal? How does that compare to the centric/rad?
How does the centric 906 compare to the sector 906?
Well the Setor have more power, but not as much finess
Your enthusiasm is very catching, but a few critical notes.
1) How can you say it's accurate while pounding 18-20 meters of line? Show us with the fly landing on a target!
2) Why not cast short to medium distances (6-10 m) and see/show how the rod feels. Does it give feedback at these distances to say it's also suitable for fishing small to medium size rivers?
Hello ibookje. Those are good points. When you do a video like this often it takes several take to get the best possible speak. I could have done an better job at showing it cast precisely in the video. However I did use it specifically with dryfly and it is quite accurate. I am sorry it that does not show properly in the video
@@NordicAnglers I can understand that making a video is always complicated.
Rods like the Centric 'invites' a caster to throw a mile and that's what I ALWAYS see at fly shows. How can one decide to buy a rod (doesn't mind if it's $1000 or $100) by just casting 20m?...
@@ibookje well as i said, I did just that. I fished it and it is very accurate both at 8 and 20 meters :)
@@ibookje get inspired, try one, buy it if you like it, dont if not. Pretty simple.
Do you still have your Scott Radian 9' 5wt?
Nope, its been replaced with the Scott Centric
@@NordicAnglers Good deal and thanks for the quick reply. Trying to find one if you know anyone looking to upgrade like you did. 😊
You should test new Vision Merisuola Graphene released last week...
Well i would like to try that one out :) However I must say that i am always sceptical when ever a company proclaims they have designed there rod from a new almost magic material :) All the high end rod companies have access to the same materials and technologies. It is how they shape, taper and cross the fibres that makes up the difference of the high end rods, not some some new magic material that is only one atom thick and only one company have access to. :)
@@NordicAnglers Beulah the innovators of spey...have been using it to great acclaim and mackenzie was using it before them. Its not a proprietary material used by "Vision"
Excellent review.
Nice review. I love my Radians.
The Radians are magnificent rods
Some great perspectives! And, I love that this review comes from a very good caster (which you are). I see so, so, so many rod reviews here on RUclips where the reviewer is perhaps, at best, a mediocre caster so, to me, it's difficult to have their reviews provide much merit about the rod's performance. Thank you!
Scott really has been kicking out some fine rods. I love the beauty and quality of Winston rods but, for me, but the top Scott rods are nearly as nicely finished as the Winstons, and perform (in my opinion) much better. This is not to disparage Winston, but why not buy beauty AND performance with a Scott?
That Sage igniter action sounds and personality sounds similar to the old TCR; I remember casting that rod in local competitions, and that rod was a very particular and demanding mistress. It was not very forgiving, but when you found the sweet spot, oh boy were you rewarded!
I appreciate your perspectives on the Radian and the Centric. To me it sounds like back in the day when the XP was Sage's #1 rod and then Sage introduced the Z Axis. The XP was much stiffer than the Z, and the Z was smoother and would flex more easily into the blank. My buddies and I, when casting for distance, thought the Z Axis would fold, but it did not! We would be able to eke out a few more feet with the Z than we could with the XP., and the Z was an 'easier' rod to cast, kind of like how you compare the Radian and the Centric.
Of note is how much you love your Radian, that you have fished for years, and sum up your review that, if given a choice between these three rods, all things being equal you would take the Centric. That says it all.
Thanks so much for putting together this video!
P.S. When practicing on the grass, like where you are, I put down on the ground a small 5'x7' plastic tarp I keep in my car for emergency purposes (say, to put down on the ground if I need to change a tire, or put down on the grass as a line catcher, or many things for which a tarp can be handy!). IT folds flat and virtually takes up no space and has been super handy to have available, when needed. :-)
You have a nice casting stroke, well done.
@nordicanglers I'm looking to purchase a Scott centric 9ft/5 and looking to pick up a really nice reel also. Is the centric front heavy as the radian. Beacuse I'm looking on einarsson 5plus vs nautilus x 5-6. It's 30 g more on the einarsson and wanting a well balanced flyrod is wery important to me.
Well I would go for the Nautilus, unless you need the fullframe for mono shootingline
Would Centric 904 be a good choice for a dry fly rod. I wanna be able to cast dries att all distances, even far out long. I was thinking on G Series but i read that they lack on power for long cast when u need it. And btw, can u rekomend a 904 dry fly rod if u just need to pick only 1? Ty for nice videos👌👌👌
For dry fly and dry fly only rod, depending on the size of fish you are targeting of course, 8'6" #4 will be better. The Centric is amazing rod, you won't be disappointed.
I had to laugh at your boyish enthusiasm during the start of this review! They look a great rod, maybe Santa might be kind!!!!
You have a very beautiful cast!
I am not giving up my Radians any time soon :):)
Just made me happy I purchased a 6 weight Centric to go with my Radian & 5 weight Sage Xt! Wish they made a 2 weight for my twig water. 👌🙏
Your videos are the best!
Thanks man :)
Having tested back to back Radian 1005 and Centric 1005 i totally disagree the Centric is faster. It isn't. Centric is slower. Make no mistake tho-it is a fantastic rod. For real life distances-short and medium it is more precise than the Radian.
Radian is better at long distances-the entire line plus some backing out distances.
Centric lacks the sonic boom Radian has when loaded properly with lots of line. It is however in my view the better rod for daily use.
The difference is not big enough to sell your Radian and buy a Centric but in any other scenario I can wholeheartedly recommend the Centric. It is fantastic rod.
have the radian in 6wt, great rod... bought the centric in 9' 4wt and it's a beautiful flyrod, casts very well with SA infinity . However my favorite rod is a sage x in 4wt , I can roll cast that thing about 10ft farther than the centric using the same line
Very enthustiastic review :-) Why is it that most fly rod reviews always end up beeing some sort of distance competition? A fly rod has to do much more than beeing some sort of rocket launcher.
There will always be uncovered aspects in a review. We are covering the rod, as we would use it. And that is mostly fishing at a distance (coastal, foam ect)
OC there will other properties in the short game :)
I love this cat
DO NOT buy a scott rod the tips brake to easy!!! I have two radian rods one rod the tip broke twice and the other one broke once! Comment me and I'll tell you how ! You won't believe it!!!
Tell the thousands of very happy Scott owners. Im sure they will sell all their Scott rods hearing your powerful statements :-)
@@goswo LMAO yes yes
What in your car door
@@johngower2345 nope just stringing your line up .they must of had a bad spot in the graphite paper and when they rolled it. I have two rods with different serial numbers and the both did it in the very same spot on both rods . Sent them in to get fixed and they gave me a hassle about it . Got them back and one of them never did it agin and the other did it agin a week later. I told them that they may have a spot in the graphite paper may have gotten creased some how and that's why they were braking in the same spot . Jimmy said I was crazy and I told him he is full of shit right to his face at the denver show. His girlfriend had to defuse the situation because he a asshole. So no not a car door smart ass.
@@jamesbrede8700 😂😂you yanks have thin skin