Wouldn't change her even for e1 topaz, she just to synergistic with her, always match her weakness and imaginary and sp factory on top of that and if u have well invested robin march just top up both of topaz and moze easy
Right? That's like my only hangup on pulling for topaz, I have e2 moze too but march has so much utility and drops like 120k casually lutiple times per turn
Very nice video bro! This essentially confirms my initial calcs and testing. I thought the Gap between E1 Topaz and E6 Moze was bigger but even then they are very close. Amazing video🔥
Thanks bro. I shouldve put moze on err I think it’s would’ve pumped his numbers even more with 2 follows and an ult at the very end but him and topaz did even number of attacks so I think it’s fair.
It likely would have been bigger if the enemies were fire weak & electric weak. Gotta remember the numbers are skewed about 10%+ depending on how it averages out towards Moze given the resistances. It's not the end of the world difference but the margin is a bit higher than seen in this video for sure.
the video and the playerbase: Moze or Topaz me: hunt march joke aside, instead of thinking which one is better, i think it better if we just think them all as an option so just switch around depend on enemy weakness/res
@@wyattskyy Help me please, make a MOC video of Feixiao composing with Jiaoqiu, it's funny that I couldn't find any video on RUclips with the two of them together in exchange for robin and making the difference in comparison.
@@HazeOvO i mean with s1 topaz you can just give her lc to moze ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ mine is e0s1 and i'd love to test moze with her lc on a ratio team, but my moze is only e1 after getting my robin to e2😅😅
@@_JoeVer Before e2 he is pretty mediocre at best. But bc he applies debuffs he increases ratio dmg in more ways than Topaz does. Topaz just has more personal dmg with the same build.
@@_JoeVer You could but u just lose consistency with the FUA buffing Moze for Ratio is better than e0s0 Topaz bc of the debuffs he provides but his dmg boost is a bit less + his FUA buffing isn't 100% uptime. If u got Topaz LC then she's just better bc she keeps the bonuses she has over Moze but now she also has an extra debuff for Ratio to use
Getting Topaz LC instead of Topaz herself is better for future investment. E2 Moze is enough to synergize with both Feixiao and Dr. Ratio and you'll spend less compared to getting Topaz E1 and her lightcone. Not only that, he can trigger FUA frequently too to stack up Feixiao's ult. Moze can be SP friendly since triggering his talent gives a total of 3 SP in 1 prey mark cycle, so I don't get why some people kept telling everyone in the comments he's not SP friendly when I don't have any SP problems when using him with Feixiao. Either they're coping or they have no experience on using him along with Feixiao and Dr. Ratio.
Eh... it just depend on the investment. Most tests show that DPS and clear speed is slightly faster with E6 moze than E0 Topaz and E6 7hunt (with Feixiao) due to his personal DPS. Just use whatever you want at this point, the difference is not even noticeable, but if you have E2 Topaz, go with that
I will say, this is one of the more favorable battles for Moze in that it is a 2 phase battle with chunky elites, almost no target switching, and Lightning Weakness. The problem that Moze is generally going to have in a rather significant amount of content is that he simply can struggle to maintain Prey uptime and any need for target switching simply does not work with him. This fight doesn't have to worry about that. In the right scenario, he is obviously very good, but if the battle does anything to disrupt his ideal setup/sequencing he quite literally falls off a cliff.
Agreed, E1 Jade + Feixiao is INSANE. With 150 speed + another 30 from Jade, Feixiao can do 3 turns in each Robin ult, overkill in MoC but very noticeable in DU and Apoc
it would be a more interesting comparison once the enemy starts powercreeping characters since u are more likely to use up all of moze's stacks in those fights. because at the moment where the most random feixiao teams i have seen can still zero cycle kafka its really hard to make accurate investment predictions. it would be interesting to see then if the additional personal damage moze provides will give him the edge over topaz since the enemies right now just die too fast for him to use all stacks
You only need E2 Moze for her to perform similar to E0 Topaz, so getting Topaz is never an upgrade to the team when you could spend the 5 star pull on Fei lc, Fei E1, Aven lc, Robin E1, or Robin lc which are all far better damage increases compared to the 0 getting Topaz does outside of the situation where they are fire weak but not lighting weak. Even in those situations though you would prefer one of the previously stated upgrades instead.
the question was "Topaz or Moze", not Fei S1, not Fei E1, not Robin E1, and not Robin S1. those are different discussion cases and requires separate considerations that are unrelated to the question on hand. that being said, Moze at E2 offers competitive debuffing capability as Topaz, sure, but still not competitive in terms of damage. as about E6, alr stated in my original comment, ain't gonna look for 7 copies of a 4* in a Hoyo game that requires E6 to be competitive on ALL fronts with the one Topaz alr built and good to go, offers more SP flexibility, minimum attention to debuff, flexible in targeting, and even nice on auto. enemy weakness and RES coverage is a different issue altogether, because that's where Topaz and Moze (and Hunt 7th) can coexist: as teammate options for Feixiao, and that shan't be used as an indicator which is better.
Well, my Topaz is E1S1 and Moze is only E4 so I guess the answer is always going to be her for me. That sure isnt going to stop me from using Moze though! Dude's a badass!
I think you missed one Numby attack by Robin ulting before numby's turn 5:39 , which would have generated more energy for Topaz plus generating 1 more stack for Feixiao. Again at 8:24, if you had just done topaz turn and let numby attack then cast topaz and robin ult. It would have allowed Numby attack one more time overall, generating one more point for Feixiao. These are small differences, but I think they are meaningful if the fight was actually tough. Thank you for video.
@@lucyvalentine8026 It is literally one free extra attack. Missed. It would not deal less damage to have 2 extra free attacks. Yes, they would deal less dmg than with Robin ult, but Robin ult resets Numby's position back to bottom so only thing that happens is that Numby loses one free attack.
@@AnastasiaPhantom Robin's ult doesn't reset numby's position back to bottom she just advances forward the team, so all she does is delay numby's action for 1 action of the team because normally one attack is enough for numby to act immediately and this time with robin's ult buffs, which is exactly what happened, if he had let numby act she would indeed go back to bottom, and she would need more attacks than 1 to act so he did end up winning damage that way
@@lucyvalentine8026 It is true that Numby would need 1 more attack to advance back to top but Fexiao generates 3 attack and Fu xuan 1 and topaz advances Numby by 100% each action under the ultimate. And since Topaz acts last of the 3. We end up with Numby at bottom, Fei Skil 50% > Fei Fua 50% > Numby attack > Fu xuan 50% > Fei Fua 50% > Numby Attack > Topaz 50% if we use Numby attack before Robin Ult. Exact same position if we use it before as Topaz only has 2 stack of her ultimate.
This is very interesting. I’m not a master at topaz rotations lol. My idea to help get the hits enhanced at 0av but I get what you’re saying if you can advance enough to get back it doesn’t matter you can still get the hits but more. I need to test around more and get all of her complexities understood. Thanks for the comment!
March is broken with fei, bug on moze’s argument the only issue with moze is its only really pheasable on a boss because since his debuff doesnt transfer itll only be useable on a big target or else youll just kill the prey and he will just leave for a while lol
IMO I think Moze (at least rn) is the best option mainly because he's featured on Feixiao and Robin's banner. If someone pulled for both they probably already have an E2 - E6 Moze (unless you're hella unlucky or super lucky). I think he's strong enough at E2, arguably stronger than E0 Topaz and requires less pulls in general imo.
no hes not as strong as topaz at e6 hes comparable but otherwise no topaz is just too good. Entirely sp positive, huge 50% vulnerability debuff, can consistently follow up in quick succession and not just at most 4 times like moze and DIRECTLY benefits from follow ups
@@fancymustache3793 I was saying arguably stronger with Dr Ratio in mind (where he's better because he applies enough debuffs for dr ratio). I forgot this was a feixiao video lol.
E2 Moze will amp Feixiao's damage more, and generate a bit more stacks for her. E6 March will probably do a bit more in terms of personal damage, and will generate more SP. She can also help deplete enemies weakness even if she's off element. Moze E2 will probably still result in higher team damage for 2 reasons: 1, amping your main damage dealer. Feixiao is the main DPS, making her do more damage is more valuable. 2, because he attacks more often, that not only means more stacks for Feixiao, but also more Robin damage. However, March is comfier thanks to her SP generation. I'd say Moze wins in most scenarios, but it's not that far off. Use whoever you like more. If Moze was E6 (or even E4) that'd be different.
E1 topaz vs e6 is truly not fair and she still got beaten in dmg which is embarrassing for her , yeah am not going to use her ever again and she can stay in the void
@@Hannvibal and acting like e1 character is easy to get🤷🏻♂️ wasting 360 pulls for a 10% better dmg is really dumb lol , yall wanna convince your grandma is still meta after 2 four star took her place AND DID IT BETTER 🤡 she’s still completely useless to my account lmao
because she's the worst option among all of them in terms of stack generation and damage, with only being the most sp positive as her only pros against them as shown by other cc's guides but the comment section is not yet ready to hear this
@@gepardlandau04weakness break better + always match feixiao, stack generation on 161+ spd with er rope better, more attacks for dps robin, don't need to worry u run out off sp, dmg distribution don't focus on 3 units like with moze making 0 cycle easier, idk man, to much comfort compared to those 2
@@gepardlandau04 mine 172 spd, with decent crit ratio just to proc robin dmg more often and give fei stacks, its easy to build spd on her and she work very synergistic with fei+robin duo, especially if u have invested robin,only way to upgrade her would be topaz lc
By the time I have e1 Robin and e1 Topaz, is Fei's light cone just overkill? I like to get my DPS units their LC's generally but the team already seems so strong and I know there are more good characters coming up...
I got lucky enough to pull Moze E6 so I’ll stick with him and use my jades for Lingsha. Btw I’ve heard from another youtuber that ERR rope gives much better overall team dmg on Moze than ATK. Did you test that ?
Yeah err seems to outperform atk%. Especially with no hit dmg since he leaves. I probably would’ve been able to ult and follow twice extra at the end of the run if it was err.
@@wyattskyy thanks! Love your videos btw. Do you think I should maybe just skip Topaz and Aventurine altogether? Have Feixiao, Robin, Fu Xuan and as mentioned E6 Moze
Topaz is still probably better for Ratio (I'm skipping Feixiao cause I wanted to S1 Robin) so she's definitely not without use. And Ratio's damage is still nothing to scoff at so it's still a viable team, just not *the best*
I have Topaz and Moze and this is what I kept telling my friends that E6 moze is a lot better than e0 Topaz in terms of DPS. 😂 This is already an E1 Topaz in comparison so this proves my point, they kept hating because I like Moze character design and playstyle a lot. 😂
I always felt there's not much difference with moze and felt his dmg is even better than her at E4 or E6 I think I'll build him did u manage to 0 cycle aventurine with her follow up team (Aven topaz Robin) the closest I got was 4% remaining health but my feixiao has ratio's cone and E1 Aven and was using 4pc wind set
it depends on your feixiao who is better. need help killing the enemy? moze is nice for that. u can oneshot elites or are close? topass is then better. e2 feixiao? topass just better. moze is better with dr ratio tho.
Everything same as moze except on speed boots. I should’ve put it up on screen. I thought I did in the end oops. Cruising lc stats around 90/130. Mozes traces are crazy so his crit dmg starts a lot higher.
Well, I was gonna start building my Moze since I got him E4, and I thought he was better than Topaz. But just because I already have my Topaz E2S1, Im staying with her for now
Sorry topaz, i would use u alot if your animation is good, but it just numby doing the job and it kinda boring ngl. Moze animation is more satisfying alongside with Feixiao back to back.
@@wyattskyy I would like to see the comparison d^_^. I personally want to use Moze. He's just so cool, but I only have one copy. March is already leveled and has her eidolons, so she's hard to ignore.
Everytime a new fua unit gets released topaz copers come out in droves claiming about how she's "high value" or "meta" and then she ends up not being BIS or a sidegrade to other options.
I mean she is though. Did you watch the video? Lol. She's still ahead. More damage, more sp, more buffs an the same amount of debuffs. Her an moze are the best fua side pair an before moze topaz was still the best. Are you saying topaz is worse than himeko, herta, march 7th, xueyi an jade for supports? What calcs have you seen that verify that?
@D4C_267 but that's not what I asked. Is she not clearing every other fua unit in damage, sp, buffs, and debuffs? Who exactly is she a side grade too? Because one would have to be better than her. Not just as good or good enough. You also said every fua unit that came out aswell which is why I asked which unit is surpassing her in every metric? Because from what calcs have shown nobody is an the closest is moze who JUST came out.
Having E4 Topaz, I can tell I go with her in this Duo. She is just the character with the most frequent attacks in the game, together with great buffs for crit damage and FUas. But having Topaz E1 with active Robin and Fu Xuan, 80k Numby in ult seams a bit low
@@Raigana0203. Maybe it's curiosity. Most people are saying e2 moze is better than march regardless when paired with feixiao, but honestly I don't think this applies to most content. March 7th is the more versatile character, so I would imagine, she would be overall better. But that's just me.
@@Raigana0203 depends on who you’re pairing her up with. you can’t just straight up say that e6 free character >>> e2 moze at any given scenario bc that’s just spreading misinformation/your own agenda lol.
The gap only may differ if your Feixiao is e2 and you are aiming for a 161 spd topaz, then she could outperform Moze e6 due to the frequent FuA. But at that point you could clear any content with ease now and no need to pull Topaz🫡
Getting Topaz LC instead of Topaz herself is better for future investment. E2 Moze is enough to synergize with both Feixiao and Dr. Ratio and you'll spend less compared to getting Topaz E1 and her lightcone. Not only that, he can trigger FUA frequently too to stack up Feixiao's ult. Moze can be SP friendly since triggering his talent gives a total of 3 SP in 1 prey mark cycle, so I don't get why some people kept telling everyone in the comments he's not SP friendly when I don't have any SP problems when using him with Feixiao. Either they're coping or they have no experience on using him along with Feixiao and Dr. Ratio.
The march weakness break is just so damn good
Wouldn't change her even for e1 topaz, she just to synergistic with her, always match her weakness and imaginary and sp factory on top of that and if u have well invested robin march just top up both of topaz and moze easy
Right? That's like my only hangup on pulling for topaz, I have e2 moze too but march has so much utility and drops like 120k casually lutiple times per turn
Honestly, I just love March with feixiao
"It takes about E2 5* investment to get an E6 4*"
Me, who got Moze E6 before getting Feixiao: 😅😭
me who got e2 feixiao and is still stuck on e4 moze
i got gepard and feixiao and robin and still stuck at e5
I got E3 Topaz before E6 Xueyi, and now I aim for E4
Idk how people have such good luck that they can E2 before E6 an 4 star. I always get at least 8 4* before a 2nd 5 star
same, himeko and bailu will not stop screwing my 50/50 lmao
Very nice video bro! This essentially confirms my initial calcs and testing. I thought the Gap between E1 Topaz and E6 Moze was bigger but even then they are very close. Amazing video🔥
Thanks bro. I shouldve put moze on err I think it’s would’ve pumped his numbers even more with 2 follows and an ult at the very end but him and topaz did even number of attacks so I think it’s fair.
It likely would have been bigger if the enemies were fire weak & electric weak. Gotta remember the numbers are skewed about 10%+ depending on how it averages out towards Moze given the resistances. It's not the end of the world difference but the margin is a bit higher than seen in this video for sure.
I will never get tired hearing the little root town bgm
the video and the playerbase: Moze or Topaz
me: hunt march
joke aside, instead of thinking which one is better, i think it better if we just think them all as an option so just switch around depend on enemy weakness/res
Yeah especially if the points for Fei comes out roughly the same
@@wyattskyy Help me please, make a MOC video of Feixiao composing with Jiaoqiu, it's funny that I couldn't find any video on RUclips with the two of them together in exchange for robin and making the difference in comparison.
I don’t have feixiao but moze has been doing wonders for my ratio as a topaz replacement
Yea Moze having 2 debuffs without LC is really good so he's BiS unless u got e1/s1 for Topaz
@@HazeOvO i mean with s1 topaz you can just give her lc to moze ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mine is e0s1 and i'd love to test moze with her lc on a ratio team, but my moze is only e1 after getting my robin to e2😅😅
@@_JoeVer
Before e2 he is pretty mediocre at best. But bc he applies debuffs he increases ratio dmg in more ways than Topaz does.
Topaz just has more personal dmg with the same build.
@@_JoeVer You could but u just lose consistency with the FUA buffing
Moze for Ratio is better than e0s0 Topaz bc of the debuffs he provides but his dmg boost is a bit less + his FUA buffing isn't 100% uptime. If u got Topaz LC then she's just better bc she keeps the bonuses she has over Moze but now she also has an extra debuff for Ratio to use
The 3rd gen Pokémon music meme continues! Great video by the way. I hope we get a 4 star selector next patch.
It s March 7th, the apex heroine, the best girl in sight.
For me the most comfortable partner for Feixiao is March and she deals really good dmg and buffs
And I also don’t have e6 Moze( but I got 9 copies of Asta which is e30 by now
@@dmytrokapshuk6183 dawg I got like 12 lukas and 7 astas, only 3 moze. Pain
Try march 7 with moze its really fun
Feixiao does more damage with Topaz but the Moze run 0 cycled anyway. So I guess you really just swap between them depending on enemy weaknesses.
Getting Topaz LC instead of Topaz herself is better for future investment.
E2 Moze is enough to synergize with both Feixiao and Dr. Ratio and you'll spend less compared to getting Topaz E1 and her lightcone. Not only that, he can trigger FUA frequently too to stack up Feixiao's ult.
Moze can be SP friendly since triggering his talent gives a total of 3 SP in 1 prey mark cycle, so I don't get why some people kept telling everyone in the comments he's not SP friendly when I don't have any SP problems when using him with Feixiao. Either they're coping or they have no experience on using him along with Feixiao and Dr. Ratio.
Topaz keeps winning.
Truly one of investing in victory moment.
Eh... it just depend on the investment. Most tests show that DPS and clear speed is slightly faster with E6 moze than E0 Topaz and E6 7hunt (with Feixiao) due to his personal DPS. Just use whatever you want at this point, the difference is not even noticeable, but if you have E2 Topaz, go with that
@@pooof6605 E0 ftw
My march actually allows my fei to run attack boots, ive got 125 spd on fei without spd boots and march brings her up to the breakpoint.
Still 2 turn MoC 1st cycle?
@@aomafura3374yeah, you need 134 speed for two turns, 125 + 10% from March is around 137-138
I will say, this is one of the more favorable battles for Moze in that it is a 2 phase battle with chunky elites, almost no target switching, and Lightning Weakness. The problem that Moze is generally going to have in a rather significant amount of content is that he simply can struggle to maintain Prey uptime and any need for target switching simply does not work with him. This fight doesn't have to worry about that. In the right scenario, he is obviously very good, but if the battle does anything to disrupt his ideal setup/sequencing he quite literally falls off a cliff.
Yeah agreed. Him and topaz seem very similar but their differences favor towards big bosses vs mobs and target switching.
I was very curious about this topic, thank you! Very informative.
the correct answer is march 7th
The video is about topaz and Moze, they are compared to see the numbers. March is not in the conversation 😂
@@lilieakgae actually, this is about moze and topaz if you’re not reading the video’s title. Hope that helps
Jokes on you its all three at the same time (march included)
Meta: March or Moze or Topaz
Me: Jade
It is actually fun to play with her with Feixiao.
I read did thinking u meant stellar jades lol
!!! I love jade fei. It was like my second fei video and is my top 3 duos for Fei.
Agreed, E1 Jade + Feixiao is INSANE. With 150 speed + another 30 from Jade, Feixiao can do 3 turns in each Robin ult, overkill in MoC but very noticeable in DU and Apoc
Great to hear for me cuz I probably only have enough for Topaz lightcone since I want Aventurine too.
Based on you being you
I say we use both and put a robin on the 4th slots
Let’s just clear the enemies before they even got a chance to touch us 🥰💪
I busted out the wallet…
But E2 Fei, March, Robin, E4 Bronya is so fun
that hoen ost going huge
ong am I really first? coincidence op 😂❤
it would be a more interesting comparison once the enemy starts powercreeping characters since u are more likely to use up all of moze's stacks in those fights. because at the moment where the most random feixiao teams i have seen can still zero cycle kafka its really hard to make accurate investment predictions. it would be interesting to see then if the additional personal damage moze provides will give him the edge over topaz since the enemies right now just die too fast for him to use all stacks
The debates in comments are so nice ☕️
Topaz because getting 7 copies of the same 4* is hell in any Hoyo game
DAMN RIGHT
You only need E2 Moze for her to perform similar to E0 Topaz, so getting Topaz is never an upgrade to the team when you could spend the 5 star pull on Fei lc, Fei E1, Aven lc, Robin E1, or Robin lc which are all far better damage increases compared to the 0 getting Topaz does outside of the situation where they are fire weak but not lighting weak. Even in those situations though you would prefer one of the previously stated upgrades instead.
the question was "Topaz or Moze", not Fei S1, not Fei E1, not Robin E1, and not Robin S1. those are different discussion cases and requires separate considerations that are unrelated to the question on hand.
that being said, Moze at E2 offers competitive debuffing capability as Topaz, sure, but still not competitive in terms of damage. as about E6, alr stated in my original comment, ain't gonna look for 7 copies of a 4* in a Hoyo game that requires E6 to be competitive on ALL fronts with the one Topaz alr built and good to go, offers more SP flexibility, minimum attention to debuff, flexible in targeting, and even nice on auto.
enemy weakness and RES coverage is a different issue altogether, because that's where Topaz and Moze (and Hunt 7th) can coexist: as teammate options for Feixiao, and that shan't be used as an indicator which is better.
Well, my Topaz is E1S1 and Moze is only E4 so I guess the answer is always going to be her for me. That sure isnt going to stop me from using Moze though! Dude's a badass!
I’m building Moze regardless considering he’s my only Lightning DPS outside of Serval, lighting being my fav element in games.
lol add march 7th then u have 3 lightning dps
And here I am hoping E0 moze is enough for most endgame content. I sort of gave up on the lightning element, before him.
Idk man after that March training arc event I fell in love with her❤. I can't not use her now 😂
Meanwhile I got 2x Robin and 1x Clara but only 2x Moze lmao
I think you missed one Numby attack by Robin ulting before numby's turn 5:39 , which would have generated more energy for Topaz plus generating 1 more stack for Feixiao. Again at 8:24, if you had just done topaz turn and let numby attack then cast topaz and robin ult. It would have allowed Numby attack one more time overall, generating one more point for Feixiao. These are small differences, but I think they are meaningful if the fight was actually tough. Thank you for video.
If that was the case she would've dealt even less damage
@@lucyvalentine8026 It is literally one free extra attack. Missed. It would not deal less damage to have 2 extra free attacks. Yes, they would deal less dmg than with Robin ult, but Robin ult resets Numby's position back to bottom so only thing that happens is that Numby loses one free attack.
@@AnastasiaPhantom Robin's ult doesn't reset numby's position back to bottom she just advances forward the team, so all she does is delay numby's action for 1 action of the team because normally one attack is enough for numby to act immediately and this time with robin's ult buffs, which is exactly what happened, if he had let numby act she would indeed go back to bottom, and she would need more attacks than 1 to act so he did end up winning damage that way
@@lucyvalentine8026 It is true that Numby would need 1 more attack to advance back to top but Fexiao generates 3 attack and Fu xuan 1 and topaz advances Numby by 100% each action under the ultimate. And since Topaz acts last of the 3. We end up with Numby at bottom, Fei Skil 50% > Fei Fua 50% > Numby attack > Fu xuan 50% > Fei Fua 50% > Numby Attack > Topaz 50% if we use Numby attack before Robin Ult. Exact same position if we use it before as Topaz only has 2 stack of her ultimate.
This is very interesting. I’m not a master at topaz rotations lol. My idea to help get the hits enhanced at 0av but I get what you’re saying if you can advance enough to get back it doesn’t matter you can still get the hits but more. I need to test around more and get all of her complexities understood. Thanks for the comment!
E1 jade is my favorite and it’s not even close
Instead of comparing… why not just use them ALL?! MMFT FOR THE WIN 🎉🎉
March is broken with fei, bug on moze’s argument the only issue with moze is its only really pheasable on a boss because since his debuff doesnt transfer itll only be useable on a big target or else youll just kill the prey and he will just leave for a while lol
I just use March. Don't have Top Ass and Numby and didn't build Moze yet. Besides she's free and very very cute. Should I build Moze?
If he’s e2 worth building
@@wyattskyy ok but i have e6 moze and e6 march the hunt so which one?
Moze is probably better dmg wise. That being said, I am still gonna use March, even with E6 Moze
@@wyattskyy ah, okay thanks
Yeah. I use march 7th for feixiao too. But I am building moze as well, since I don't have any good lightning dps. E0 moze. My luck is sh*t like that.
I am with e1 moze and topazless....Hunt march 7th do the job well already, but damn moze dont want to come home😢
Your Feixiao is so similar to mine. I'm at 2.7k atk (but my lc is lvl 60), 139 speed, 96% crit rate, 150% crit dmg and I'm using the exact same sets
Me with E1S1 Topaz and only E3 Moze after going E1 Feixaio, plan to put them both together, looking very forward, luv my FUA characters
FUA spam is always fun even if it's not the best team
My fav rn is Topaz, E1 Jade, Feixiao, Aventurine just for the constant hits
march it is
I just switch based on weaknesses, but I lean torwards Moze since mine is E6 and my Topaz is E0.
Why not both?
Feixiao Topaz Moze for some fua shenanigans!
next Moze vs March 7?
I got E5 moze with about 70 pulls for Feixiao and don’t own topaz and loving moze
March And Feixiao is My Shing Shing 😂
IMO I think Moze (at least rn) is the best option mainly because he's featured on Feixiao and Robin's banner. If someone pulled for both they probably already have an E2 - E6 Moze (unless you're hella unlucky or super lucky). I think he's strong enough at E2, arguably stronger than E0 Topaz and requires less pulls in general imo.
no hes not as strong as topaz at e6 hes comparable but otherwise no topaz is just too good.
Entirely sp positive, huge 50% vulnerability debuff, can consistently follow up in quick succession and not just at most 4 times like moze and DIRECTLY benefits from follow ups
@@fancymustache3793 I was saying arguably stronger with Dr Ratio in mind (where he's better because he applies enough debuffs for dr ratio). I forgot this was a feixiao video lol.
i also want to ask the same question but for ratio instead of feixiao
I'm extremely conflicted about whether i should build E6 hunt march or E2 moze for my feixiao
If u dont plan to pull for more Moze Eidolons, then use E6 March
E2 Moze will amp Feixiao's damage more, and generate a bit more stacks for her. E6 March will probably do a bit more in terms of personal damage, and will generate more SP. She can also help deplete enemies weakness even if she's off element. Moze E2 will probably still result in higher team damage for 2 reasons: 1, amping your main damage dealer. Feixiao is the main DPS, making her do more damage is more valuable. 2, because he attacks more often, that not only means more stacks for Feixiao, but also more Robin damage.
However, March is comfier thanks to her SP generation. I'd say Moze wins in most scenarios, but it's not that far off. Use whoever you like more. If Moze was E6 (or even E4) that'd be different.
just build both, both are fun
I'll personally run HMarch because more SP is always good. Moze can't really generate any because he rarely basic attacks.
E1 topaz vs e6 is truly not fair and she still got beaten in dmg which is embarrassing for her , yeah am not going to use her ever again and she can stay in the void
Acting like an e6 4* character easy to get🤷♀️ its completely fair and the first enemys had light weaknesses so he got the advantage lol
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Very brainless
@@Hannvibal and acting like e1 character is easy to get🤷🏻♂️ wasting 360 pulls for a 10% better dmg is really dumb lol , yall wanna convince your grandma is still meta after 2 four star took her place AND DID IT BETTER 🤡 she’s still completely useless to my account lmao
@@SadJab-qy7erholy cope lmao
did 80 pulls on the banners and got 3 LCs 6 lukas and 2 astas I'm cooked I just want one moze 😭
lol march mains crying in the comment section bc her name did not even get uttered for comparison
Bahahha
Why no March in comparison?
because she's the worst option among all of them in terms of stack generation and damage, with only being the most sp positive as her only pros against them as shown by other cc's guides but the comment section is not yet ready to hear this
Finaly a gentlema with brain@@gepardlandau04
@@gepardlandau04weakness break better + always match feixiao, stack generation on 161+ spd with er rope better, more attacks for dps robin, don't need to worry u run out off sp, dmg distribution don't focus on 3 units like with moze making 0 cycle easier, idk man, to much comfort compared to those 2
@@greenvega im not sure if needing 161 spd just to catch up with the others sounds comfortable to other players but whatever floats your boat
@@gepardlandau04 mine 172 spd, with decent crit ratio just to proc robin dmg more often and give fei stacks, its easy to build spd on her and she work very synergistic with fei+robin duo, especially if u have invested robin,only way to upgrade her would be topaz lc
Sigh another video and another cc robin ulting before numby's turn😑
It’s to make sure the enhanced ult hit is buffed by concerto.
@@wyattskyy hmm makes sense, I'm just think pure stack generation in general
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By the time I have e1 Robin and e1 Topaz, is Fei's light cone just overkill? I like to get my DPS units their LC's generally but the team already seems so strong and I know there are more good characters coming up...
is that bgm from Pokémon ? it feels very familiar but i'm not sure
e6 moze just cause he's cooler but march is good enough
I got lucky enough to pull Moze E6 so I’ll stick with him and use my jades for Lingsha. Btw I’ve heard from another youtuber that ERR rope gives much better overall team dmg on Moze than ATK. Did you test that ?
I use that on Moze to charge Fei ult. I don't know about damage. I think it should be better, because Moze get faster ULT under Robin ult.
Yeah err seems to outperform atk%. Especially with no hit dmg since he leaves. I probably would’ve been able to ult and follow twice extra at the end of the run if it was err.
why not all three no robin no sustain, its just so satisfying
Hmmm wait a minute….
@@wyattskyy 😏
"The enemy can't kill me if they're already dead" ahh strat
Neither…E1 Jade is better🤗
I love all these e1 jade comments.
I was lucky and got E6 Moze while pulling for Feixiao and Robin. Still want to get Topaz but might just build Moze and go for Aventurine instead
That’s awesome!
@@wyattskyy thanks! Love your videos btw. Do you think I should maybe just skip Topaz and Aventurine altogether? Have Feixiao, Robin, Fu Xuan and as mentioned E6 Moze
e1 Jade is BiS
I got 4 5 star in this banner and not a single moze, wtf mihoyo
My condolences. Wtf
I put em all in one team FTMM
You're running Pokemon's music in background?
Nice! Now I wonder who Moze's best partner is... Topaz or Feixiao? 🙃
I don’t have topaz, but I got E6 Moze, I really like her but maybe is better to get someone else. I don’t know what to do 😂
Who do you think is better for ratio, if running them at all is better than a dedicated debuffer?
At e0s0 topaz only has 1 debuff. Moze at e2 has 2. Other than that prob just like this video either work interchangeably.
So E6 Moze is better than Topaz E0 S0 and Topaz E1 S1 is better than Moze E6 ?
Now the question, moze or harmony?, i dont have topass, and last slot is sustain
harmony, the best for feixiao is either robin or bronya
Use march instead, most harmonies don’t attack enough to stack Feixiao
@@catch_c I mean fei + march + (moze/harmony) + sustain
@@Sqq33-L ok, harmony better then
@@gem_ola6642 oops misunderstood your question. Definitely harmony
Topaz is still probably better for Ratio (I'm skipping Feixiao cause I wanted to S1 Robin) so she's definitely not without use. And Ratio's damage is still nothing to scoff at so it's still a viable team, just not *the best*
Yh not really, moze is better for ratio and topaz is better for fei.
I have Topaz and Moze and this is what I kept telling my friends that E6 moze is a lot better than e0 Topaz in terms of DPS. 😂 This is already an E1 Topaz in comparison so this proves my point, they kept hating because I like Moze character design and playstyle a lot. 😂
his dps is only higher than her against fire resist enemies or lightning weak enemies so there's that
I always felt there's not much difference with moze and felt his dmg is even better than her at E4 or E6 I think I'll build him
did u manage to 0 cycle aventurine with her follow up team (Aven topaz Robin) the closest I got was 4% remaining health but my feixiao has ratio's cone and E1 Aven and was using 4pc wind set
Yeah 0 cycled aven with Fei, Jade, Robin, aventurine. You can put a bunch of characters in the jades slot and it’s good.moze is best bc of lightning
it depends on your feixiao who is better. need help killing the enemy? moze is nice for that. u can oneshot elites or are close? topass is then better. e2 feixiao? topass just better. moze is better with dr ratio tho.
I try them both and they still 0 zero cycles with feixiao only , the dmg boost between the e2 and topaz skill , topaz won in the dmg boost 😇
How'd they work together tho
Your rotations are really weird I won’t lie
Specifically with Topaz
I was trying to match the moze run specifically. Maybe that’s why some actions were out of order.
This is essentially a test which character is 2nd best to hunt march lol
I'm new don't have Fei Xiao or Topaz but I'm pulling for Robin, is he good with Clara? She is my 5 star from beginner
yes
Yes. Robin is best in slot in every team aside from break. Clara's kit revolves around FUAs so the synergy is even better.
Robin is good with every single dps. Even blade who is HP scaling 😂😂
The timestamps are not correct for the two team
Don't worry topaz just changed her name and became edgy emo.
Thank you
I got E6 mozes just getting one copy of feixiao no pity
That’s insane. I’m jealous lol
wait, what lightcone is topaz using and her stat?
Everything same as moze except on speed boots. I should’ve put it up on screen. I thought I did in the end oops. Cruising lc stats around 90/130. Mozes traces are crazy so his crit dmg starts a lot higher.
Well, I was gonna start building my Moze since I got him E4, and I thought he was better than Topaz. But just because I already have my Topaz E2S1, Im staying with her for now
Me 😈
Sorry topaz, i would use u alot if your animation is good, but it just numby doing the job and it kinda boring ngl. Moze animation is more satisfying alongside with Feixiao back to back.
Who is better for Feixiao, Topaz or Moze?
True Answer: Bronya.
Shouldn't March 7th be in this mix?
You know what. 100% I think I’m going to make a follow up video. I was really focused on topaz vs moze bc of their similarities with debuffs.
@@wyattskyy I would like to see the comparison d^_^. I personally want to use Moze. He's just so cool, but I only have one copy. March is already leveled and has her eidolons, so she's hard to ignore.
Robin or feixao lc ?
ROBIN robin ROBIN
@@wyattskyy hahah thx man ❤️
Everytime a new fua unit gets released topaz copers come out in droves claiming about how she's "high value" or "meta" and then she ends up not being BIS or a sidegrade to other options.
I mean she is though. Did you watch the video? Lol. She's still ahead. More damage, more sp, more buffs an the same amount of debuffs. Her an moze are the best fua side pair an before moze topaz was still the best.
Are you saying topaz is worse than himeko, herta, march 7th, xueyi an jade for supports? What calcs have you seen that verify that?
@@crowing3886 My feixiao easily zero cycled with march this moc. TOpaz would have not made a diffrence
@@D4C_267 feixiao can easily 0-cycle with arlan on the team, but that doesn't make arlan as good as topaz or moze ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@D4C_267 but that's not what I asked. Is she not clearing every other fua unit in damage, sp, buffs, and debuffs?
Who exactly is she a side grade too? Because one would have to be better than her. Not just as good or good enough.
You also said every fua unit that came
out aswell which is why I asked which unit is surpassing her in every metric? Because from what calcs have shown nobody is an the closest is moze who JUST came out.
??? She literally makes the team do more damage overall while being easier to play how is that not an upgrade
Having E4 Topaz, I can tell I go with her in this Duo. She is just the character with the most frequent attacks in the game, together with great buffs for crit damage and FUas. But having Topaz E1 with active Robin and Fu Xuan, 80k Numby in ult seams a bit low
E2 Moze or E2 M7?
Why wouldn't you just have E6 M7, she's free
@@Raigana0203. Maybe it's curiosity. Most people are saying e2 moze is better than march regardless when paired with feixiao, but honestly I don't think this applies to most content.
March 7th is the more versatile character, so I would imagine, she would be overall better. But that's just me.
@@Raigana0203 depends on who you’re pairing her up with. you can’t just straight up say that e6 free character >>> e2 moze at any given scenario bc that’s just spreading misinformation/your own agenda lol.
The gap only may differ if your Feixiao is e2 and you are aiming for a 161 spd topaz, then she could outperform Moze e6 due to the frequent FuA. But at that point you could clear any content with ease now and no need to pull Topaz🫡
Moze bc he's my type - case closed
My e6 hunt March
Getting Topaz LC instead of Topaz herself is better for future investment.
E2 Moze is enough to synergize with both Feixiao and Dr. Ratio and you'll spend less compared to getting Topaz E1 and her lightcone. Not only that, he can trigger FUA frequently too to stack up Feixiao's ult.
Moze can be SP friendly since triggering his talent gives a total of 3 SP in 1 prey mark cycle, so I don't get why some people kept telling everyone in the comments he's not SP friendly when I don't have any SP problems when using him with Feixiao. Either they're coping or they have no experience on using him along with Feixiao and Dr. Ratio.