Just imagine if it got combined with the Light Speed Transmission from Koenigsegg... If u wanna compare any transmission sounds, then I would say none can beat that one... So in my opinion the light speed transmission could be paired well with the massive thrust produced by the Bugatti V16... That's if these 2 can put their rivalries aside😅😂
@@pmudri I don’t think there are any 2000hp cars that have half of that power available instantaneously. I suppose any car with that much power is going to be acceleration limited by available traction tho.
@@IAG369still the fastest car with more than 2people is McLaren Speedtail...delivered to all few years ago...Gemera is far from production...and Bugatti doesnt bother with 4seaters
Just imagine if it got combined with the Light Speed Transmission from Koenigsegg... If u wanna compare any transmission sounds, then I would say none can beat that one... So in my opinion the light speed transmission could be paired well with the massive thrust produced by the Bugatti V16... That's if these 2 can put their rivalries aside😅😂
Just saw your video from 11 years ago explaining the hemi. Read the comments where you were talking about being an engineer and i decided to check to see if youre still making videos, and you are! Glad you stuck with it!
It's not so much that the downsides don't matter, it's that they aren't even downsides. This is a vehicle for which being excessively expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, expensive to drive, and insanely complicated is an advantage. It will make the vehicle more desirable. It is an exceptionally large peacock tail, in vehicle form.
If I buy a rusted car with a dying engine for huge money and repair holes on chassis one by one when a place cracked. And repair engine only cylinder by cylinder so that it become expensive to maintain. Does it becomes a peacock tail?
It was nearly impossible to get insurance to drive the Veyron or Konegg. Nobody will insure this for the road. Amazing engineering, complete showoff design, and useless for anything but "drive it" date on a closed track. Drive it a few laps then it's back to the shop for $100K in maintenance and new tires.
Cizeta Moroder V16T had a V16 in the 1990s. Depends if you consider 13 units "production". It was 4 banks of 4, so 32 valve, octo-cam engine. Claudio Zampolli was nuts.
Hi, i have done my calculi, and i have concluded that each bank (which, as you said, is kind of a straight8 cross-X plane, with all the pistons evenly distributed every 45 degrees) has a primary rocking couple. Option 1: If they didn't phase the V8 called A and the one called B by 45 degress and they actually mirrored it, they could have really balanced EVERYTHING, primary and secondary forces and moments. But if they did this, 2 pistons would have fired at the same time. Maybe the problem is the torsional stress on the crankshaft, so they opted to balance things by adding weight to the cranskshaft in order to have a smoother firing. Option 2: Another option would have been two inline8 banks with a 90 degrees angle (i suppose they didn't want to have a 45 degrees like the cadillac, because of its shape), but in that case, they would have had the same problem of 2 pistons firing at the same time. In this last case, the only difference with option 1 is that we are switching piston 3 with piston 4, so it's the same. Is it correct? PS, the cadillac V16 is actually a "more pefect" mechanic object. PPS, nothing is better than a V12, which is designed by God himself.
There are a lot of companies „keeping engineering marvels alive”. Everyone is just doing that in their own field. Maybe you are biased against that and are therefore not recgnizing it.
Love you, love your videos, love engineering and learning. My Croatian buddies want me to tell you that Mate Rimac is pronounced Ma-tay Ree-match. The way you said it makes him sound like an Australian bloke clearing his throat.
I was trying to read that phonetically at first, then I double read it and realized "hold up, it's Croatian, I just have to sound it out like a heterosexual Slovenian" 😂
Man that was an awesome video. I was really glued to the screen. Especially how the firing order is mirrored. It makes so much sense when you understand it. Thank you.
In 1938, Cadillac completely re-engineered the V-16, brought out a flathead design on a 135-degree plan. It was nearly an opposed 16, gave much lower silhouette, put most accessories on top. Two downright carbs helped give 185 hp. Only 514 L-head V16s were sold. A V-12 wasn't made during this time, and Cadillac dropped this 431-inch V-16 completely by end of 1940.
@@Prestiged_peck I'm fairly sure the straight-8 Duesenberg* was making 250+ (in NA form) the best part of a decade earlier. Mind you those 2 carbs in the Cadillac must have been working hard to supply 8 cylinders each! *also around 430 ci IIRC...
@@The1trueDaveDusenberg was 420ci 6.9L 265hp N/A, it was DOHC, the 430ci Cadillac 135deg V16 was flat head and it made the same 185hp as the late 452ci OHV 45deg V16 and it started at only 165hp. The V16s were significantly less expensive, low rpm engines designed to effortlessly at low rpms move around a huge limousine with only 3 gears in a time where it was uncommon to travel faster than 70mph, more of a truck engine, where the Dusenberg was like a double Offenhouser I4 or an aero engine that ran at higher rpms and depended upon breathing to make the 265 and 300 gross HP while still being acceptably tractable down low in a heavy vehicle.
Jason, thank you very much for taking the time to explain this. It is very interesting. Your explanations of the firing order of the cylinders & how they balance each other reminded me of counterpoint in the music of JS Bach. Thank You.
@@EngineeringExplained74.4 lb per liter is extremely solid. i’m curious to know as well if it indeed is naturally aspirated. you always do a phenomenal job breaking down the details.
@@EngineeringExplained hey mate cheers, why haven't you done the Chiron 300+ video calculations huh? I wonder why, well, I made them myself 😁 and is a complete lie I hope you do a video on it, if you really don't care about views... "The Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ did indeed achieve a record speed of 304.773 mph (490.484 km/h) during a test run in 2019. However, the customer version of the Chiron Super Sport 300+ is electronically simited to a top speed of 273 mph (440 km/h) for safety and regulatory reasons. To determine if the Chiron Super Sport 300+ could theoretically achieve 305 mph (493 km/h) without the electronic limiter, we need to consider the factors involved: 1. Aerodynamic Drag: Drag Coefficient: Approximately 0.35 Frontal Area: -2.4 square meters Alr Density: 1.225 kilograms per cubic meter 2. Power Output: 1,577 horsepower (1,176 kilowatts) Calculations: Using the drag equation: Power of Drag = Air Density x Drag Coefficient × Frontal Area × Velocity For 306 mph (138.62 meters per second): Power of Drag = x 1.225 x 0.36 x 2.4 x (136.62) Power of Drag 674, 198 Watts Power of Drag 2,078 kiloWatts Comparison with Available Power: The Chiron Super Sport 300+ engine produces 1,176 kilowatts. For achieving 306 mph, the car would need approximately 2,078 kilowatts, which is significantly higher than the engine's output Conclusion: The calculations show that while the Chiron Super Sport 300+ can achieve very high speeds, reaching 306 mph (493 km/h) would require more power than the car's engine can provide. This Implies that without additional power and overcoming other practical limitations (such as tire Integrity and safety concerns), the Chiron Super Sport 300+ cannot achieve 306 mph. Therefore, the 304.775 mph achieved during the test run was a significant accompitshment under highly controlled conditions, but pushing beyond this to 306 mph is not feasible with the current power and design constraints of the vehicle."
During the early days of the Veyron's development they considered using an 18 cylinder engine before deciding "nah, that's too much" and so they decided on a far more sensible 16 cylinder engine instead.
They're certainly knocking it out of park at the moment. Two amazing *emissions compliant* NA V12s for Aston Martin and Gordon Murray. Why not sling 4 more pots on for Bugatti?! It'd be interesting to see the inlet plenum in detail; I think that's where their combustion witchcraft is hidden.
@@jamescorderjr1274 certainly is, but they're surely in a golden age right now. Makes me wonder what Ferrari will do, they'd love an engine like these (the V12 certainly) in one of their cars, but can they do it or would they too have to make the pilgrimage to Northampton and Cosworth's reception desk?
When Mate Rimac said they were developing something unique and new I was hoping for a star engine 😅. Laid on its side, with like 9 cylinders at least, turbocharged and electrical valves
A V16 engine nowadays is like a super rare powerful horse when the model T was mass produced. There comes a point when the limiting factor are the tires, not the engine.
I can imagine trade schools and university engineering courses seriously using your videos in their curriculum. I'm an armchair mechanic myself, but it's information like this that allows me to understand and geek out even more about this stuff. I'd love more information about motorcycle and industrial power plants as well. Armed with a whiteboard, nothing can stop you! Also, have you thought about a collaboration with Mark Rober?
I am studying chemical engineering, and I absolutely love your videos man! If you don't mind, I would be glad to see some more chemistry related stuff :D I really enjoyed your videos about the Li-ion batteries.
@EngineeringExplained :: Not sure if anyone pointed this out already, but as a native speaker of Serbo-Croatian, I can tell you two things - 1) Mate Rimac is pronounced as Muh-teh Ree-mah-ts ; 2) The phrasing Mate used in conjunction with the emoticon may actually translate to something along the lines of "oh, that's rich...", as that specific phrasing is very often used sarcastically, much more so than its direct meaning as a praise. Just thought I'd throw a spanner in the works :D
Thanks! I included the original comment because translations often aren't directly accurate, so appreciate you chiming in! Were you to guess, does the language sound affirmative or more like "no way"? Because I think even sarcastically you might say "oh wow now THAT would be cool ;)" in a way that's like hey please don't spill all the details just yet.
@@EngineeringExplained I added a separate comment, but in most cases it translates to something like a playful "nice try, although you're wrong". BTW your numbers were very conservative. 1000+1000 is much too low. They'll probably push for 2x electric 750hp each, plus 1500 combustion. They have to make a crazier car than Koenigsegg's ~2300 HP.
@@EngineeringExplained I had posted a follow-up, but it contained a link to another comment on Facebook, which might be why RUclips mods (or even you) deleted it. Anyway, the gist of it was that Mate Rimac seems to be very stingy with responding to comments on his posts, and the response I had linked was one confirming the engine is N/A with a simple "Yep." to one of the commenters in an earlier post Rimac had made. The only other direct response he gave to commenters about any of this was along the lines of "all shall be revealed in due time". This all leads me to believe that the commenter you pointed out (Heinz Schenk) was onto something, and the snarky sarcastic handwave was probably a misdirection attempt. I can't be sure about the electric engine(s) power figure(s), but I do think you're just about correct; something tells me Bugatti-Rimac didn't go through the trouble of designing such an elaborate ICE powertrain just to have it play second fiddle to the electric subsystem - I doubt they'd want it overshadowed by the electric motors. @randomnik70 :: I doubt Jason overestimated the engine power, given how simple the intake manifolds and the valvetrain look; to get much more efficiency without traditional forced induction, they'd have to have an elaborate variable valve timing and duration system with some huge valves/ports and also probably rammed air (scooped from the front and inducted into the manifolds), as what Jason proposes is already pushing it in terms of volumetric efficiency.
Personally, I think it would be cool to see something like this be able to have distinctive modes. A 100% full blown push the brain into the back of your skull mode and a mode that could get you 40 mpg. Imagine having a green and a red key for your Bugatti so you could also get 400 miles to the tank if you were so inclined... just because you could.
@@Slizzo82 They haven't been represented anywhere I or most other car enthusiasts care about until recently. No Cosworth in Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Porsche, et al. Whatever niche area you're referring to no one cares about.
@joe13c00l2 with engines that use pistons, there is a lot of reciprocating mass and with the omega 1 it spins in one direction, making it a more efficient motor. Thus more power for the same amount of work.
Man, time and time again you prove yourself to be one of the best channels on RUclips. Having access to information like this is one of the few ways the internet contributes positively to the world, in my opinion.
One of my all-time favorite engineers! It takes real genius to be able to digest the computation and physics of engineering, and turn it into something genuinely enthusiastic. Well done, Jason!
I can confirm from my friend who works at Bugatti it’s a 1000hp na motor with 1000hp duel electric hub motors at each front wheel. I got to see a video of the first start up at cossworths engine Dyno over a year ago
In all the years I’ve seen your videos this one is really really well made. Your knowledge and ability to explain is incredible. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰
the enthusiast are gonna absolutely LOVE this thing. all the benefits of that raw, n/a predictability. with the linear power of a 16 cylinder engine only Bugatti can provide. mixed with the instant torque of the Rimac hybrid powertrain. and a sound so magnificent the Gods themselves will weep. it's gonna be marvelous. i wonder what the fuel economy will be like....
THANK YOU for another high-quality, old-style, whiteboard video instead of a not-so-well-sounding unmounted vlog :D (the explanations are crystal-clear, great work)
Right off the bat, it would be significantly more efficient to simply build a very large V8, second it would be much easier to make a V16 with a crankshaft on 2 axis that operates as a pair of V8 firing simultaneously instead of the 4 axis crankshaft with the 45 degree firing order due to complexity of making the crank and the increase in the chance that there could be flaxs that make the crank throws even a few degrees imperfect on one plane and the fact that there is no power advantage to making the engine in this oberly complex way compared to a large V8 or 90 degree double V8 of the same displacement, this is the same reason why manufacturers refuse to give us large cross plane I4s that would give is better balance, beautiful tq curve and a luscious sound.
That's pretty sweet. I have wanted to build a paired V8 V16 out of Ford 460s for a while now, just something about a 15L V16 that's appealing. It's interesting that they are doing this this way, my first choice plan was to run the front one in standard rotation but the rear one in reverse rotation, butted together, with the power going aft via a shaft slung underneath from the flywheel end. Hopefully they aren't going to have too much of an issue with crankshaft flex in that, or with block shifting.
It would be nice to compare diameter of bearings for this V16 with a high-revving V12. One of the reasons why V16s are unpopular is that longer crankshaft is less stiff and as a result has a natural resonance at lower frequency. If the engine were revved to the rpm at which resonance occurs, crankshaft will break. Thus, the more cylinders there are in a V, the lower the limit on rpm is. 9,000 is very high for a V16, which makes me think that they either found a way to make crankshaft stiffer (by making it thicker or playing with the quality of metal), or they have implemented some very effective vibration dampening mechanism or both.
You can give so much more knowledge using a whiteboard and a few pictures - than (maybe) all of the animated videos here on YT! Love your channel, but this video is absolut outstanding. Thank you so much! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹!
I don’t think most will understand this level of explanation and ability to switch this level of thought process between each matrix is just mind bending.
I would assume whatever future car Bugatti will put the V16 in won’t be specifically designed for top speed because the hybrid system wouldn’t work when trying to reach the highest possible speed since there would be no regenerative braking and the engine would be better suited to just send all of its power straight to the wheels.
Imagine how much simpler it is to package and cool a NA v16//electric combo. Vs. Quad turbo v16. Not to mention how beautiful that new motor will be NA.
Bugatti is the internal combustion engine champion i hope they keep this going and do a W20, and W30 and beyond like those rich guy cars from the 20s and 30s 😂
GM should have bought the Dusenberg name in the mid 2000s and made the Cadillac Sixteen as a Dusenberg with the double 6.2L LS3 or 7L LS7, 12.4-14.0L V16 with 900-1000hp.
My god Jason how are you so smart? Your pattern recognition, car knowledge and math work are UNBELIEVABLY GOOD. Also, I live how now Hybrids mean that we can go back to N/A engines because we don't need Turbos to assist engines anymore and therefore we regain great sounding engines 🥰🔥
9,000 rpms is really high revving for such a large engine, so wow! Secondly, I really want to know how much power can come out of that engine if it were charged vs the hybrid setup
I love this video! Good stuff Maynard. As for the Engineering the Veyron, at this point an aircraft gas turbine would be lighter and have more horsepower, and I bet that it would cost less. For example Jay Leno built a gas turbine car based on a corvette chassis.
I dont understand why this makes sense to me, the way he explains things just makes sense it's great 🙌🏽 as long as you have a basic understanding of engines, this video is perfect
the most beautiful torque curve I ever had the pleasure to experience was that of the V10 in the R8. When I first drove that I said to my co driver: „If you don’t love that you‘re surely dead“ Though the V10 Biturbo in the RS6 has significantly more torque and horsepower it felt to me much more „boring“ it’s like power on/off. I just love the characteristics of a naturally aspirated engine because the torque increases with the revs it makes and that feels so….zoooom 😂
The crank and camshaft harmonics would be an interesting thing to see as well. An engine that long is sure to pose some challenges with torsional vibration and I'd love to see what they did. Also, exhaust manifold pics please. Eliminating blowdown interference and meeting emissions don't typically happen at the same time on crossplane V8s, so it will be cool to see how they did it (I mean, they could use 8 cat converters on cylinder pairs with a 270 degree firing separation, but that would be the easy way).
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Doing the math to prove it’s a 90 degree V8 when pictures already exist is peak Jason
Bro doesn’t need eyes to see the world, just numbers
"THE NUMBERS M̶A̶S̶O̶N̶ JASON!!! WHAT DO THEY MEAN?"
A necessary precaution to silence the loud ignorant trolls who live by the Dunning Kruger Effect.
I laughed@@CyanRooper
Dudes like neo see's every thing in code
Company : "We're not currently releasing the official specs to the public"
Jason, equipped with a promo image and a whiteboard : "You absolute fools"
😂😂
can't beat physics lol
8.3 V16 built by Cosworth.
He is ALWAYS two steps ahead
To be fair, the insider information given by the customers was also helpful.
I’m glad they numbered the cylinders so it will be super easy for my local mechanic to work on
This is not soup for you!
Hell, might as well work on it yourself at this point really
Laughed out loud when I read this 😂
Just imagine if it got combined with the Light Speed Transmission from Koenigsegg... If u wanna compare any transmission sounds, then I would say none can beat that one...
So in my opinion the light speed transmission could be paired well with the massive thrust produced by the Bugatti V16... That's if these 2 can put their rivalries aside😅😂
You sure you can afford it bud?
2:25 "69% larger, nice"
Not even a smirk. Amazing.
Nice
He's not a man of culture, he's a gentleman of culture.
Nice
Nice
Nice
I own a BMW i5 M60 and the 600 hp is more than I have ever experienced. A Bugatti with 1000hp aspirated PLUS 1000hp electric will be unimaginable.
exactly
unimaginable? there are 2000hp cars already.
@pmudri no there's 2000hp machines not cars. This car has AC name another 2000hp car with AC
@@pmudri That's not what he meant. The experience is unimaginable for someone who has never driven a car that powerful.
@@pmudri I don’t think there are any 2000hp cars that have half of that power available instantaneously. I suppose any car with that much power is going to be acceleration limited by available traction tho.
2:21 - that "nice" was so casual, yet so effective, i love it
Let's get this on a tray
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed
Bugatti took the creation of the Koenigsegg Gemera personally 💀
This doesn't aim to be a practical hypercar that can be used as a daily driver just as easily as a raceway rocket, though...
Not the same buyers target
@@alexluke84 Not the point. They did not want to be outdone at any cost.
Only thing left is to make a 4 seat vehicle..
@@IAG369still the fastest car with more than 2people is McLaren Speedtail...delivered to all few years ago...Gemera is far from production...and Bugatti doesnt bother with 4seaters
It looks sooooo good. And sounds too😍
Did Mate give any sneak peeks off camera?
will you be driving one on the ring soon? 😲
tell Rimac to let you drive one in the green hell
Waiting for your ring lap ❤
Just imagine if it got combined with the Light Speed Transmission from Koenigsegg... If u wanna compare any transmission sounds, then I would say none can beat that one...
So in my opinion the light speed transmission could be paired well with the massive thrust produced by the Bugatti V16... That's if these 2 can put their rivalries aside😅😂
Bro, gotta say, the neatness, precision, layout and use of colour on your whiteboard display is as impressive as your engineering knowledge
no cap!
Lecturer/ teacher spotted
Just saw your video from 11 years ago explaining the hemi. Read the comments where you were talking about being an engineer and i decided to check to see if youre still making videos, and you are! Glad you stuck with it!
Ha - things worked out okay! Appreciate the kind words! :)
@EngineeringExplained didn't rolls make this v16 engine back in the early 2000s they put it in a rolls in a film rowin Atkinson where he played a spy
“The turbos are 69% larger…nice” 😂
Totally caught me off guard 😂😂
snuck it in there 😂
guy’s a legend
I just love how saying "...nice" whenever the number 69 comes up has become such a widespread thing, it's hilarious.
Nice.
thats a very good number 😂
“Was all this a waste…. Maybe.”😂😂😂 this guy is brilliant and subtlety hilarious. Awesome job.
Now we need a W 24 engine.
Just 8 more.
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It'd be a lot easier to just buy two of these V16s and put them together. Play your cards right and you could make it a W32
at that point, we should use 2 engines only to power a generator, just like with the Belaz 75710
or rotate 3 of them to get a Radial-48
why not a 2 stroke opposed piston inline 12?
Accidentally synchronized our “nice” out of instincts. I’m dying 😂💀 @2:26
I was like "jinx". 😁
I think we _all_ said it out loud at the same time 😂.
His timing was perfect.
And the nonchalant delivery was 🤌.
That smirk after "Maybe." was just saying "because I can". 😁🤟
I had no idea 2 came after 1. I think that's an underrated discovery from this video, thank you! Putting your degree to WORK
Carefull you'll get called racist
@@snowgorilla9789mathist
U think ur better than us cuz ur white ?
I got a laugh out of that line too!
It's not so much that the downsides don't matter, it's that they aren't even downsides. This is a vehicle for which being excessively expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, expensive to drive, and insanely complicated is an advantage. It will make the vehicle more desirable. It is an exceptionally large peacock tail, in vehicle form.
Yep, exactly.
If I buy a rusted car with a dying engine for huge money and repair holes on chassis one by one when a place cracked. And repair engine only cylinder by cylinder so that it become expensive to maintain. Does it becomes a peacock tail?
@@inevespaceDoes it have a Bugatti badge and cost over a million to buy?
@@inevespace Vintage cars are like that and some go for huge amounts of money
It was nearly impossible to get insurance to drive the Veyron or Konegg. Nobody will insure this for the road. Amazing engineering, complete showoff design, and useless for anything but "drive it" date on a closed track. Drive it a few laps then it's back to the shop for $100K in maintenance and new tires.
Cizeta Moroder V16T had a V16 in the 1990s. Depends if you consider 13 units "production". It was 4 banks of 4, so 32 valve, octo-cam engine. Claudio Zampolli was nuts.
Rare cars are still considered production vehicles even when they are made in single digit numbers.
I used to own a Cizeta Moroder V16T
In Gran Turismo 4
It's contentious whether that's even a proper V16 - had two cranks, four cams, and central power shaft. It's more like 2 V8s in one block.
@@tomkandyso they were bonkers enough to fit two engines in one car... Legendary!
It where 2 Lamborghini 4.0 V8 uraco engines and mated together the gearbox was in the middle ..
Hi, i have done my calculi, and i have concluded that each bank (which, as you said, is kind of a straight8 cross-X plane, with all the pistons evenly distributed every 45 degrees) has a primary rocking couple.
Option 1: If they didn't phase the V8 called A and the one called B by 45 degress and they actually mirrored it, they could have really balanced EVERYTHING, primary and secondary forces and moments. But if they did this, 2 pistons would have fired at the same time. Maybe the problem is the torsional stress on the crankshaft, so they opted to balance things by adding weight to the cranskshaft in order to have a smoother firing.
Option 2: Another option would have been two inline8 banks with a 90 degrees angle (i suppose they didn't want to have a 45 degrees like the cadillac, because of its shape), but in that case, they would have had the same problem of 2 pistons firing at the same time.
In this last case, the only difference with option 1 is that we are switching piston 3 with piston 4, so it's the same.
Is it correct?
PS, the cadillac V16 is actually a "more pefect" mechanic object.
PPS, nothing is better than a V12, which is designed by God himself.
Love your videos Jason! A while ago you inspired me to get more into engineering and for that I am very grateful. Another excellent video
The instant torque of electric and that gorgeous sound of that v16. Pretty hyped to see what this car will look like!
@AudreyH48 maybe a road-legal Bolide complying with emissions and stuff?
It will be lenght of the Titanic probably
@@XXXPUBLICENEMY sounds great to me, give me the land yacht
So short, this thing is gonna be a beast
@Harrappathat would be quite the achievement if they managed to shove a v16 into roughly the same sized hole as a w16
V16 in this day and age? I see the VW Group is being adventurous.
Yippie! I’m tired of some of these boring cars!
It can be tough when you're still living in an era where Bugatti owns VW Group. Try to update your dataset.
@@Dqtube
You need to read and _understand_ what I wrote.
@@Dqtubei thought VW owned Bugatti, and not the other way around
@@crackedemerald4930 VW group owned Bugatti, but they sold it to Rimac. There isn't a car company on this planet that could buy VW group.
I wonder if that would fit in my Fiat 500?
If your mounts start at the dash maybe
VAG parts in Stellantis???
@@feedbackzaloopeuro beat gives access to powers unknown
It will as long as u gon drive it from the outside😂
There's always a chance!
Excellent video Jason. Was feeling underwhelmed waking up today, but this made my day, great content, perfectly presented.
You have no idea how happy I am. Bugatti are singlehandedly keeping engineering marvels alive.
You have never heard of Koenigsegg? 😅😅😅
@@pietskiet42-_ Yeah, building 3-cylinder cars... 🥱
Koenigsegg is
There are a lot of companies „keeping engineering marvels alive”. Everyone is just doing that in their own field. Maybe you are biased against that and are therefore not recgnizing it.
Or Cosworth
@@pietskiet42-_
Love you, love your videos, love engineering and learning. My Croatian buddies want me to tell you that Mate Rimac is pronounced Ma-tay Ree-match. The way you said it makes him sound like an Australian bloke clearing his throat.
This comment is 10/10, thank you! And appreciate the correction.
It's Ree-matz
I was trying to read that phonetically at first, then I double read it and realized "hold up, it's Croatian, I just have to sound it out like a heterosexual Slovenian" 😂
It's not "ree-match" it's "ree-mah-ts" as it doesn't have an accent on the c at the end
Man that was an awesome video. I was really glued to the screen. Especially how the firing order is mirrored. It makes so much sense when you understand it. Thank you.
Very happy to hear it, appreciate ya watching!
In 1938, Cadillac completely re-engineered the V-16, brought out a flathead design on a 135-degree plan. It was nearly an opposed 16, gave much lower silhouette, put most accessories on top. Two downright carbs helped give 185 hp. Only 514 L-head V16s were sold. A V-12 wasn't made during this time, and Cadillac dropped this 431-inch V-16 completely by end of 1940.
A 430 inch engine making 185 horsepower is absolutely depressing
@@Prestiged_peck Not back then.
@@Prestiged_peck I'm fairly sure the straight-8 Duesenberg* was making 250+ (in NA form) the best part of a decade earlier. Mind you those 2 carbs in the Cadillac must have been working hard to supply 8 cylinders each!
*also around 430 ci IIRC...
The Cadillac V16 wasn't so much about outright power, but supreme smoothness.
@@The1trueDaveDusenberg was 420ci 6.9L 265hp N/A, it was DOHC, the 430ci Cadillac 135deg V16 was flat head and it made the same 185hp as the late 452ci OHV 45deg V16 and it started at only 165hp. The V16s were significantly less expensive, low rpm engines designed to effortlessly at low rpms move around a huge limousine with only 3 gears in a time where it was uncommon to travel faster than 70mph, more of a truck engine, where the Dusenberg was like a double Offenhouser I4 or an aero engine that ran at higher rpms and depended upon breathing to make the 265 and 300 gross HP while still being acceptably tractable down low in a heavy vehicle.
Jason, thank you very much for taking the time to explain this. It is very interesting. Your explanations of the firing order of the cylinders & how they balance each other reminded me of counterpoint in the music of JS Bach. Thank You.
"Why go with this V16 Hybrid strategy?" Because it's badass?
Because no other car manufacturer is using a 16 Cylinder engine.
You are maturing as a lecturer Young Man. Congratulations. That was one of the best I ever saw on my favorite subject.
Thanks for the kind words!
thanks for the thorough overview with your signature explanation process.
You haven't even watched it yet.
Thanks for watching!
@@EngineeringExplained74.4 lb per liter is extremely solid. i’m curious to know as well if it indeed is naturally aspirated. you always do a phenomenal job breaking down the details.
shut up. dude got a like and heart-thingy and followed up afterwards. go weep,@@JSFGuy
@@EngineeringExplained hey mate cheers, why haven't you done the Chiron 300+ video calculations huh? I wonder why, well, I made them myself 😁 and is a complete lie
I hope you do a video on it, if you really don't care about views...
"The Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ did indeed achieve a record speed of 304.773 mph (490.484 km/h) during a test run in 2019. However, the customer version of the Chiron Super Sport 300+ is electronically simited to a top speed of 273 mph (440 km/h) for safety and regulatory reasons.
To determine if the Chiron Super Sport 300+ could theoretically achieve 305 mph (493 km/h) without the electronic limiter, we need to consider the factors involved:
1. Aerodynamic Drag:
Drag Coefficient: Approximately 0.35
Frontal Area: -2.4 square meters
Alr Density: 1.225 kilograms per cubic meter
2. Power Output:
1,577 horsepower (1,176 kilowatts)
Calculations:
Using the drag equation:
Power of Drag = Air Density x Drag Coefficient × Frontal Area × Velocity
For 306 mph (138.62 meters per second):
Power of Drag = x 1.225 x 0.36 x 2.4 x (136.62)
Power of Drag 674, 198 Watts
Power of Drag 2,078 kiloWatts
Comparison with Available Power:
The Chiron Super Sport 300+ engine produces 1,176 kilowatts. For achieving 306 mph, the car would need approximately 2,078 kilowatts, which is significantly higher than the engine's output
Conclusion:
The calculations show that while the Chiron Super Sport 300+ can achieve very high speeds, reaching 306 mph (493 km/h) would require more power than the car's engine can provide. This Implies that without additional power and overcoming other practical limitations (such as tire Integrity and safety concerns), the Chiron Super Sport 300+ cannot achieve 306 mph. Therefore, the 304.775 mph achieved during the test run was a significant accompitshment under highly controlled conditions, but pushing beyond this to 306 mph is not feasible with the current power and design constraints of the vehicle."
How much more cylinders do you want?
Bugatti: Yes. 😂
its the same tho. 16. Just in a V config.
During the early days of the Veyron's development they considered using an 18 cylinder engine before deciding "nah, that's too much" and so they decided on a far more sensible 16 cylinder engine instead.
@@notsafefortorque9060 Classic VW over complicating a 16 cylinder.
@@CyanRooper10 is the limit. Anything above that is over complicating.
17 please
Beautiful engineering its not until i watched this video that i truly got to understand the complexity of these engines
I remember seeing videos from Mate about starting modding cars in his garage, he's now presenting Bugatti cars.
Crazy.
No way are Cosworth making another insane engine... GOATs
They're certainly knocking it out of park at the moment. Two amazing *emissions compliant* NA V12s for Aston Martin and Gordon Murray. Why not sling 4 more pots on for Bugatti?! It'd be interesting to see the inlet plenum in detail; I think that's where their combustion witchcraft is hidden.
I mean Cosworth making insane engines is kinda their MO
@@jamescorderjr1274 certainly is, but they're surely in a golden age right now.
Makes me wonder what Ferrari will do, they'd love an engine like these (the V12 certainly) in one of their cars, but can they do it or would they too have to make the pilgrimage to Northampton and Cosworth's reception desk?
Are there other engine builders other than cosworth? It seems to me they're the only ones mentioned when people talk about dedicated engine builders
@@falcongamer58 Because they're the best. Go google other ones.
When Mate Rimac said they were developing something unique and new I was hoping for a star engine 😅. Laid on its side, with like 9 cylinders at least, turbocharged and electrical valves
I believe what you are describing as a star engine is formally known as a radial engine. They were popular in aviation in the 1940s and 50s.
That also sound like something Christian would make and not Mate
At approx 10 minutes in I experienced a subtle transition from incomprehensible to hypnotic. Couldn’t stop watching - love your videos Jason.
A V16 engine nowadays is like a super rare powerful horse when the model T was mass produced.
There comes a point when the limiting factor are the tires, not the engine.
Him: "The turbo chargers were 69% larger."
Me: Nice
Him: Nice
Me 😄
No idea why you are talking about turbos. The Cosworth V16 is naturally aspirated.
Also Me: Nice
@@v4skunk739 jason was comparing the W16 engines from the Veyron/Chiron
I see what they did there, they wanted not just forced induction, but rizz induction too....
twin oversized turboes are actualy quad turboes . i think imhop if you want the best output just use a good old fashoned charger
I can imagine trade schools and university engineering courses seriously using your videos in their curriculum. I'm an armchair mechanic myself, but it's information like this that allows me to understand and geek out even more about this stuff. I'd love more information about motorcycle and industrial power plants as well.
Armed with a whiteboard, nothing can stop you!
Also, have you thought about a collaboration with Mark Rober?
I'm really happy you are still putting out content. I've been watching your channel since the beginning!
That firing order breakdown was a work of art!
Not a waste of time at all Jason ! Actually super entertaining and very informative!! Loved it!!👍👌
I could listen to you talking about engines all day long man!! Just pure bliss.
Half way through and I'm lost!! Better start over!!
I am studying chemical engineering, and I absolutely love your videos man!
If you don't mind, I would be glad to see some more chemistry related stuff :D I really enjoyed your videos about the Li-ion batteries.
Chemistry has always been tough for me! I've got a battery video going on in the background, and the chemistry is ooof!
Haha, I know the feeling! For me it has always been statics and dynamics that have been challenging @@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained :: Not sure if anyone pointed this out already, but as a native speaker of Serbo-Croatian, I can tell you two things - 1) Mate Rimac is pronounced as Muh-teh Ree-mah-ts ; 2) The phrasing Mate used in conjunction with the emoticon may actually translate to something along the lines of "oh, that's rich...", as that specific phrasing is very often used sarcastically, much more so than its direct meaning as a praise.
Just thought I'd throw a spanner in the works :D
Thanks! I included the original comment because translations often aren't directly accurate, so appreciate you chiming in! Were you to guess, does the language sound affirmative or more like "no way"? Because I think even sarcastically you might say "oh wow now THAT would be cool ;)" in a way that's like hey please don't spill all the details just yet.
@@EngineeringExplained I added a separate comment, but in most cases it translates to something like a playful "nice try, although you're wrong". BTW your numbers were very conservative. 1000+1000 is much too low. They'll probably push for 2x electric 750hp each, plus 1500 combustion. They have to make a crazier car than Koenigsegg's ~2300 HP.
@@EngineeringExplained I had posted a follow-up, but it contained a link to another comment on Facebook, which might be why RUclips mods (or even you) deleted it.
Anyway, the gist of it was that Mate Rimac seems to be very stingy with responding to comments on his posts, and the response I had linked was one confirming the engine is N/A with a simple "Yep." to one of the commenters in an earlier post Rimac had made. The only other direct response he gave to commenters about any of this was along the lines of "all shall be revealed in due time".
This all leads me to believe that the commenter you pointed out (Heinz Schenk) was onto something, and the snarky sarcastic handwave was probably a misdirection attempt. I can't be sure about the electric engine(s) power figure(s), but I do think you're just about correct; something tells me Bugatti-Rimac didn't go through the trouble of designing such an elaborate ICE powertrain just to have it play second fiddle to the electric subsystem - I doubt they'd want it overshadowed by the electric motors.
@randomnik70 :: I doubt Jason overestimated the engine power, given how simple the intake manifolds and the valvetrain look; to get much more efficiency without traditional forced induction, they'd have to have an elaborate variable valve timing and duration system with some huge valves/ports and also probably rammed air (scooped from the front and inducted into the manifolds), as what Jason proposes is already pushing it in terms of volumetric efficiency.
Máté is a Hungarian name, as well.
Personally, I think it would be cool to see something like this be able to have distinctive modes. A 100% full blown push the brain into the back of your skull mode and a mode that could get you 40 mpg. Imagine having a green and a red key for your Bugatti so you could also get 400 miles to the tank if you were so inclined... just because you could.
this guy actually got the horsepower bang on wow
Cosworth is on fire lately. Making some of the best engines out there. The GMA T50… 🤤😍
Lately? Man that's always been their game.
@@Slizzo82 They haven't been represented anywhere I or most other car enthusiasts care about until recently. No Cosworth in Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Porsche, et al. Whatever niche area you're referring to no one cares about.
@@NinjaRunningWild maybe not in your country but worldwide they have for a very long time (since at least the 80s)
Can you make a video on the pistonless engine omega 1? Would love to have your take on this.
What has the world come to..... Pistonless engines? Wtf man
@joe13c00l2 with engines that use pistons, there is a lot of reciprocating mass and with the omega 1 it spins in one direction, making it a more efficient motor. Thus more power for the same amount of work.
@@joe13c00l2It's called a Wankel Rotary, not a piston in sight. 80 year old tech.
Shoot...I forgot about rotary engines...i always thought of the dorito as a piston tho...@@PrinceAlhorian
Turbines are technically piston less internal combustion engines too...
Man, time and time again you prove yourself to be one of the best channels on RUclips. Having access to information like this is one of the few ways the internet contributes positively to the world, in my opinion.
So so warming to read - means a lot to me, thank you!!
One of my all-time favorite engineers! It takes real genius to be able to digest the computation and physics of engineering, and turn it into something genuinely enthusiastic. Well done, Jason!
3x Electric motors , BEAT any ICE Engine.
I can confirm from my friend who works at Bugatti it’s a 1000hp na motor with 1000hp duel electric hub motors at each front wheel. I got to see a video of the first start up at cossworths engine Dyno over a year ago
In all the years I’ve seen your videos this one is really really well made. Your knowledge and ability to explain is incredible. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰
Cheers, thanks for watching and appreciate the kind words!!
@13:31 Cool to see where "5252" comes from, and that it's more specifically 33,000/2π.
The full story is actually really interesting, if, you know... you're interested! ruclips.net/video/gC2-JKO0c2I/видео.htmlsi=5oC5Sfz8dpUupw_a
Today, Bugatti revealed the specs and maths are all correct
the enthusiast are gonna absolutely LOVE this thing. all the benefits of that raw, n/a predictability. with the linear power of a 16 cylinder engine only Bugatti can provide. mixed with the instant torque of the Rimac hybrid powertrain. and a sound so magnificent the Gods themselves will weep. it's gonna be marvelous.
i wonder what the fuel economy will be like....
GREAT VIDEO! NICE NUMBERS!
2:26 very nice
The review of this Bugatti need to be Jason² !
Oohh, I'd love that!
That'd be really cool. Those two have such a good dynamic
THANK YOU for another high-quality, old-style, whiteboard video instead of a not-so-well-sounding unmounted vlog :D
(the explanations are crystal-clear, great work)
Right off the bat, it would be significantly more efficient to simply build a very large V8, second it would be much easier to make a V16 with a crankshaft on 2 axis that operates as a pair of V8 firing simultaneously instead of the 4 axis crankshaft with the 45 degree firing order due to complexity of making the crank and the increase in the chance that there could be flaxs that make the crank throws even a few degrees imperfect on one plane and the fact that there is no power advantage to making the engine in this oberly complex way compared to a large V8 or 90 degree double V8 of the same displacement, this is the same reason why manufacturers refuse to give us large cross plane I4s that would give is better balance, beautiful tq curve and a luscious sound.
That's pretty sweet. I have wanted to build a paired V8 V16 out of Ford 460s for a while now, just something about a 15L V16 that's appealing. It's interesting that they are doing this this way, my first choice plan was to run the front one in standard rotation but the rear one in reverse rotation, butted together, with the power going aft via a shaft slung underneath from the flywheel end.
Hopefully they aren't going to have too much of an issue with crankshaft flex in that, or with block shifting.
Cosworth are the masters of NA engines in this era, if you want a good NA engine go to Cosworth.
Or Judd.
2:27 "69% larger, nice" - quote of the year.
that crank must be heavy af
imagine the crank wobble, such a long boi must wobble like crazy.
i'm sure they thought of that
1 meter long😅
Crankshafts on my last ship were like 30' long. They can figure it out 😂
@JoshuaTootell sure but it was probably also as wide as ur mom, that makes it less wobbly
It would be nice to compare diameter of bearings for this V16 with a high-revving V12. One of the reasons why V16s are unpopular is that longer crankshaft is less stiff and as a result has a natural resonance at lower frequency. If the engine were revved to the rpm at which resonance occurs, crankshaft will break. Thus, the more cylinders there are in a V, the lower the limit on rpm is. 9,000 is very high for a V16, which makes me think that they either found a way to make crankshaft stiffer (by making it thicker or playing with the quality of metal), or they have implemented some very effective vibration dampening mechanism or both.
You can give so much more knowledge using a whiteboard and a few pictures - than (maybe) all of the animated videos here on YT! Love your channel, but this video is absolut outstanding. Thank you so much! Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹!
the cizeta moroder was a v16 in 91
Was it a prodcution car though?
I mean 8 production vehicles is it really a production car ? Those early 20th century v16s has hundreds of examples
Rare cars are considered production vehicles even when they are made in single digit numbers.
Cadillac made a V16 in 1930. They made 4000 of them.
Nah not really @@CyanRooper they're not series production vehicles. More homologated concept cars
@2:27 Nice
All that explanation and failed to actually say that the engine was developed by Cosworth
About the Turbo from the Chiron
Aint this setup causing more stress on the two turbos that are always in use then the ones which are turning on later?
I don’t think most will understand this level of explanation and ability to switch this level of thought process between each matrix is just mind bending.
CIZETA MORODER V16T 1995
I would assume whatever future car Bugatti will put the V16 in won’t be specifically designed for top speed because the hybrid system wouldn’t work when trying to reach the highest possible speed since there would be no regenerative braking and the engine would be better suited to just send all of its power straight to the wheels.
wow this was so much fun to watch! thanks for the awesome video
Wow, finally a new engine! Looks stunning! That Mate Rimac guy is the best!
The sound of this engine will be amazing.
I think we all appreciated that 😂 2:28
2:27 Ah a man of culture I see. Very nice.
Imagine how much simpler it is to package and cool a NA v16//electric combo. Vs. Quad turbo v16. Not to mention how beautiful that new motor will be NA.
Finally a Bugatti that will potentially sound good
EB110 wasnt bad
Bugatti is the internal combustion engine champion i hope they keep this going and do a W20, and W30 and beyond like those rich guy cars from the 20s and 30s 😂
Damn, it has the torque curve of an electric car!
This guy , is just music to my ears ❤
GM should have bought the Dusenberg name in the mid 2000s and made the Cadillac Sixteen as a Dusenberg with the double 6.2L LS3 or 7L LS7, 12.4-14.0L V16 with 900-1000hp.
11:30 just for the flex AND I LOVE IT😂❤
I’m glad you know about ‘32. Some videos have called v16 cars a new thing
My god Jason how are you so smart? Your pattern recognition, car knowledge and math work are UNBELIEVABLY GOOD.
Also, I live how now Hybrids mean that we can go back to N/A engines because we don't need Turbos to assist engines anymore and therefore we regain great sounding engines 🥰🔥
Car conpanies: we’re moving to clean energy low footprint electric and hybrid vehicles
Bugatti: look at this sick new V16 engine we just made 😁
holy grail of enginez
Just brilliant….and insane!
9,000 rpms is really high revving for such a large engine, so wow!
Secondly, I really want to know how much power can come out of that engine if it were charged vs the hybrid setup
I love when car manufacturers do things outside the norm...big props to bugatti
I love this video! Good stuff Maynard. As for the Engineering the Veyron, at this point an aircraft gas turbine would be lighter and have more horsepower, and I bet that it would cost less. For example Jay Leno built a gas turbine car based on a corvette chassis.
I dont understand why this makes sense to me, the way he explains things just makes sense it's great 🙌🏽 as long as you have a basic understanding of engines, this video is perfect
the most beautiful torque curve I ever had the pleasure to experience was that of the V10 in the R8. When I first drove that I said to my co driver: „If you don’t love that you‘re surely dead“
Though the V10 Biturbo in the RS6 has significantly more torque and horsepower it felt to me much more „boring“ it’s like power on/off. I just love the characteristics of a naturally aspirated engine because the torque increases with the revs it makes and that feels so….zoooom 😂
The crank and camshaft harmonics would be an interesting thing to see as well. An engine that long is sure to pose some challenges with torsional vibration and I'd love to see what they did.
Also, exhaust manifold pics please. Eliminating blowdown interference and meeting emissions don't typically happen at the same time on crossplane V8s, so it will be cool to see how they did it (I mean, they could use 8 cat converters on cylinder pairs with a 270 degree firing separation, but that would be the easy way).
“The turbos are 69% larger… nice” 😂😂