I had the gut feeling the one who should have left G2 was Hans and not Mikyx. Hans has been underwhelming for a long time now, I don't think they'll miss having Hans. Caps had the best synergy with Mikyx and they let it go once again.
In all fairness, they probably tried that via acquisition of Caliste, but failed. You gotta keep in mind that you need to replace the person you're removing. If you can't get Caliste and maybe Carzzy or Upset, are you really comfortable letting a fine Adc go? He's proven to be alright internationally too. That is quite rare unfortunately. Support on the other hand probably has less to do with innate talent, so maybe they feel it's easier to replace or teach the replacement guy what they want from him. All speculation of course, but yeah, you can't always just replace the person who you'd be most comfortable letting go.
loving Thorin and Yamato combo ! great episode! wish we could get monte in here too and have the 3 of them on. The new background graphics looks sick too!
Thorin and Yamato complement eachother well. I really enjoy this dynamic! IMO the old combo (although legendary) sometimes got a bit of "angry men yells at clouds"-vibe.
If we're talking old school references (Kate Upton/Clearlove), I absolutely loved the pizza references when talking about EU players just ballin out of control in NA in terms of girls/nightlife. I remember one specific episode about Froggen and his smokin hot, but ofc crazy Asian girl?
Glad that finally someone put the spotlight over Hans. Imo Hans performance on fearless draft will make or break G2. He has been a passenger since msi. I was absolutely mind blown when i saw miky was the one being replaced over Hans. He has s lot to prove this season and he has shown that he breaks easily under pressure
Hans is eu doublelift. Mechanically talented but generally one dimensional and very demanding as an adc. Not to mention the similar streak of usually being terrible against international competition. G2 would honestly be better with a “shut up and play” adc like massu or caliste imo that have better awareness in fights
Hans is underwhelming and BB is only useful on Ksante and sometimes he becomes TSM BB and becomes a kda player cameraman while Canna is outperforming him. G2 is just different not only because of Skewmond and Labrov. The other 3 carries are playing wildly different sometimes good sometimes bad and G2 was supposed to have the best carries.
To me hans was really really good in some phases on that rogue roster for example in worlds group stage he had some insane games. Before and after than that he was 80% of this peak or much less imo.
Wow testo shot and a half. What a motivator for any players watching. This really hit all the right spots. I really like the dynamic and this transition even if I enjoyed it with monte.
Thorin, no Rekkles fan has ever said that Rekkles was better than Smash in that Challengers roster. Every Rekkles fan glazes Smash. "Stfu Rekkles fans" has no basis, you are literally just attacking them for no reason because you don't actually know what you are talking about
Man im T1 fan myself and i don’t understand this if guma is playing not in his standard and smashie is playing crazy good why not give him a chance a give guma a little bit competition and maybe motivation and what yamato said about faker last year summer is true he played really bad and im not delusional or crazy and yes he played bad i can’t attack yamato cuz he didn’t insult he spoke facts and for guma situation yes that happenes in every game in the world if u are not in form and someone else in ur team is then ofc they subb you but its for both sides good
Thanks for the Factor Meals code! Been listening since Thorin was wearing those famous winter coats, so I'm happy to be in a position now to contribute to the best esports/podcast network out there. Barely even watch esports anymore but SI is eternal (and the LFN Culture shows are excellent too). P.S. Big shoes to fill but Yamato is killing it!
the thing is Noah wasn't kicked he actively chose to leave. And he did stop using social media for a while when he realised it was hurting him. He did have skin in the game and punished himself for failing unlike what Thorin is saying
Came here for the Smash/Guma take. Based as always. These new fans have been insufferable when we should be glad that Smash (who is currently in Guma's position back in 2021) is absolutely killing it.
@alvinohlsson5986 bro if you dont like Xmithie in 2018/19 you dont like league of legends. Xmithie is the NA Jankos, he elevated every player he played with and was the best jungler in the west at playing the smart pathing game and just finding the openings. Yes he had hands issues, hed miss some easy ults, but that is such a small part of the game he brought. He is the goat jungler of NA and is waaaay better internationally and as a team player than blaber ever has been. An NA player that could out think a korean is unheard of.
Why I respect Thorin so fucking much. He just goes, here is someone else on my kill list, Bwipo! But then says a whole bunch of things he does well. Thorin always gives credit where it's due.
fearless has made the LCK crazy good to watch. DK has had some insane drafts that work so well. the Pantheon Zilean combo was sooooooo clean and sooo good man.
29:57 thorins point on hans sama here is played out in data too. In 2023, the jinx/zeri meta all year, hans sama played 35 ish "pressure" games in elimination games domestically or international games. Of those, he did the most damage on his team in only 9, and 5 of those were vs mad lions (the one with carrzy nisqy)
Thorin forgets not everyone can access the deep dives of their memories as fast as he can 😂 maybe Thorin take the lead on some of the viewer questions so Yamato has time to think
Loving the new SI so much more already. I like Monte but he too often talks down to the audience as if we are infants. I understand the average league viewer might need everything laid out like that, but let’s be honest, the morons don’t watch SI. Also loving that there is WAY more talk about the LPL now, whereas previously it had always been brushed aside to talk about NA. Loving the actual conversations about the LPL games.
I think Thorin misunderstood the scrim dodge comments. G2 didnt dodge the scrims they dodged the draft. That can also be annoying but is much more common than dodging/ragequitting the whole scrim..
@@itsjustgod9034 I'm only guessing but it sounds like they want to play the same draft multiple times over. Still, if you want to do that be polite and mention that ahead of time.
@@itsjustgod9034 It means that G2 was unhappy with their draft, so they dodged after champ select and re-did the draft. Sounds a bit fucked up but happens more often than people think.
yeah idk about the lane swap thing. i dont like them no because they did make last years worlds kinda boring overall so i dont want them to be the ONLY thing. but i want them to be a small part. and then LIQUID AND FLYQUEST were like the best teams in the world last year at lane swaps. lol it was why Liquid had leads against LNG and WBG. they just lost crucial fights. so yeah flowers comment was weird. but he also does the "america" thing as a gimmick.
T1 fighting! Lets go either smash, smash em over the head and K.O. em or Hope (not likely) Guma gets put in and mercs from the solo queue practicing ezreal. Either way, let's go T1.
and yet again thorin is talking about some "fans" that "say something" but it acually never happened or 1 brainless person said it on some dark net forum ... this guy is absurd
Rarely heard such a shitty and toxic way to manipulate and twist Romain's move with the scrims stuff since 2 years, npt everyone think like you, luckily
idkw g2 keep gambling on the rookie jungler i agree they needed to move on from yike but why move on from it if youre just going to repeat the same process hoping the new guy becames the guy you just kicked? also hans sama and bb will never ever accomplish internationally what g2 claims they want to achieve, much rather have seen the naak nako or the myrwn move on top lane g2s whole thing is being creative bb can only perform on ksante or poppy and same goes for hans sama varus kalista draven and now you kick micky for labrov a rell blitz 2 trick this team maybe still wins europe but its another flop in groups at worlds for sure, one last point on adc why has the carzzy or the upset move never happened?
Noah is a young and emotional person. Why is he attacking him like that? I don't think that tweet was such a big deal. I think it's good that Noah left Fnatic. Bc the expectations were high in Fnatic so he couldn't play well under pressure. But in a team like GX he can play much better. GX is a strong team rn bc of Noah and Jun
Appreciate the shout-out on the Miky interview, a bit surreal hearing my name mentioned on SI!
Wp, u did a great job. Keep it up
The Noah segment has to be one of the Thorin moments of all time - fucking killed it mate 😂
I thought the other 3hours left would be the continuation of this rant 😂
Yamato fitting like a glove this guy just has the gift of gab and not afraid to speak his mind when he disagrees
An almost 4 hour episode??? My body is ready
I had the gut feeling the one who should have left G2 was Hans and not Mikyx. Hans has been underwhelming for a long time now, I don't think they'll miss having Hans. Caps had the best synergy with Mikyx and they let it go once again.
In all fairness, they probably tried that via acquisition of Caliste, but failed.
You gotta keep in mind that you need to replace the person you're removing. If you can't get Caliste and maybe Carzzy or Upset, are you really comfortable letting a fine Adc go? He's proven to be alright internationally too. That is quite rare unfortunately.
Support on the other hand probably has less to do with innate talent, so maybe they feel it's easier to replace or teach the replacement guy what they want from him.
All speculation of course, but yeah, you can't always just replace the person who you'd be most comfortable letting go.
loving Thorin and Yamato combo ! great episode! wish we could get monte in here too and have the 3 of them on. The new background graphics looks sick too!
That Noah rant will be in hall of fame one day.
Epic sh*t, Yamato had no idea what's coming, priceless.
idk if its because of the change but thorin actually looks and sounds rejuvenated these last 2 episodes. actual content goat
Yeah Yamato is an amazing hype man. This duo is gonna make some fucking content. Also love how Yamato has loosened up.
Thorin and Yamato complement eachother well. I really enjoy this dynamic! IMO the old combo (although legendary) sometimes got a bit of "angry men yells at clouds"-vibe.
1:16:25 lmao love the Mitch Hedburg joke reference, the full joke for those unfamiliar: "I used to do drugs, I still do em but I used to too" 😂😂
Loving this duo lads, banger episode.
It was funny to see yamato genuinely shocked by thorin's unhinged rant about noah
holy fuck the Rembrandt into Einstein joke, havent cracked up this much from a video in a long time
Noah segment 😂 truly a Thorin masterclass
If we're talking old school references (Kate Upton/Clearlove), I absolutely loved the pizza references when talking about EU players just ballin out of control in NA in terms of girls/nightlife. I remember one specific episode about Froggen and his smokin hot, but ofc crazy Asian girl?
Glad that finally someone put the spotlight over Hans. Imo Hans performance on fearless draft will make or break G2. He has been a passenger since msi. I was absolutely mind blown when i saw miky was the one being replaced over Hans. He has s lot to prove this season and he has shown that he breaks easily under pressure
Completely agree, well said.
Hans is eu doublelift. Mechanically talented but generally one dimensional and very demanding as an adc. Not to mention the similar streak of usually being terrible against international competition. G2 would honestly be better with a “shut up and play” adc like massu or caliste imo that have better awareness in fights
don't forget they wanted Caliste
Hans is underwhelming and BB is only useful on Ksante and sometimes he becomes TSM BB and becomes a kda player cameraman while Canna is outperforming him. G2 is just different not only because of Skewmond and Labrov. The other 3 carries are playing wildly different sometimes good sometimes bad and G2 was supposed to have the best carries.
To me hans was really really good in some phases on that rogue roster for example in worlds group stage he had some insane games. Before and after than that he was 80% of this peak or much less imo.
Wow testo shot and a half. What a motivator for any players watching. This really hit all the right spots. I really like the dynamic and this transition even if I enjoyed it with monte.
pleasantly surprised at how much i am still enjoying the show without monte
Thorin, no Rekkles fan has ever said that Rekkles was better than Smash in that Challengers roster. Every Rekkles fan glazes Smash. "Stfu Rekkles fans" has no basis, you are literally just attacking them for no reason because you don't actually know what you are talking about
Man im T1 fan myself and i don’t understand this if guma is playing not in his standard and smashie is playing crazy good why not give him a chance a give guma a little bit competition and maybe motivation and what yamato said about faker last year summer is true he played really bad and im not delusional or crazy and yes he played bad i can’t attack yamato cuz he didn’t insult he spoke facts and for guma situation yes that happenes in every game in the world if u are not in form and someone else in ur team is then ofc they subb you but its for both sides good
Thanks for the Factor Meals code! Been listening since Thorin was wearing those famous winter coats, so I'm happy to be in a position now to contribute to the best esports/podcast network out there. Barely even watch esports anymore but SI is eternal (and the LFN Culture shows are excellent too).
P.S. Big shoes to fill but Yamato is killing it!
the thing is Noah wasn't kicked he actively chose to leave. And he did stop using social media for a while when he realised it was hurting him. He did have skin in the game and punished himself for failing unlike what Thorin is saying
Came here for the Smash/Guma take. Based as always. These new fans have been insufferable when we should be glad that Smash (who is currently in Guma's position back in 2021) is absolutely killing it.
The Noah segment is chefs kiss!
I love yamato repping the sports direct mug, I think every british household owns one of those mfs
CptFlowers too?? Is there anyone thorin hasn't had beef with?😂 Never change though, fire content as usual.
Bwipo, Xmithie, Big Jizza, Zven and Hyli is a banger line up in 2019
Except xmithie
@alvinohlsson5986 bro if you dont like Xmithie in 2018/19 you dont like league of legends. Xmithie is the NA Jankos, he elevated every player he played with and was the best jungler in the west at playing the smart pathing game and just finding the openings. Yes he had hands issues, hed miss some easy ults, but that is such a small part of the game he brought. He is the goat jungler of NA and is waaaay better internationally and as a team player than blaber ever has been. An NA player that could out think a korean is unheard of.
@@samsharpe787hard agree.
Why I respect Thorin so fucking much. He just goes, here is someone else on my kill list, Bwipo! But then says a whole bunch of things he does well.
Thorin always gives credit where it's due.
the new graphic goes crazy
Upset Miky Razork cant carry Huma Oscar to winning title
I am afraid this might be true...
Damn. I legit remember the Kate Upton comment from way back then xd
fearless has made the LCK crazy good to watch. DK has had some insane drafts that work so well. the Pantheon Zilean combo was sooooooo clean and sooo good man.
About G2, the first thing that came to my mind watching is, god damn how muB has grown. Because he’s playing still incredible.
When thorin spells out "summoning" he always says "summonig" 😂
29:57 thorins point on hans sama here is played out in data too. In 2023, the jinx/zeri meta all year, hans sama played 35 ish "pressure" games in elimination games domestically or international games. Of those, he did the most damage on his team in only 9, and 5 of those were vs mad lions (the one with carrzy nisqy)
1:47:00 i thought i heard people cheer at the end of his rant. there was like a few boos during the rant, but most people were cheering at the end.
Good episode
this Noah segment was straight fire xD
3:09:50 I think he mean's Tom which was the 2nd rotation jungler
This episode was oddly inspirational lol
Yamato really needs to make some enemies so he can catch up to Thorin
somebody get yamato a thesaurus and point to the word "super"
As a fellow mourinho fan, I love Yamato, love you bro
Thorin forgets not everyone can access the deep dives of their memories as fast as he can 😂 maybe Thorin take the lead on some of the viewer questions so Yamato has time to think
Loving the new SI so much more already. I like Monte but he too often talks down to the audience as if we are infants. I understand the average league viewer might need everything laid out like that, but let’s be honest, the morons don’t watch SI. Also loving that there is WAY more talk about the LPL now, whereas previously it had always been brushed aside to talk about NA. Loving the actual conversations about the LPL games.
dylan should have benched hans sama instead of miky
I think Thorin misunderstood the scrim dodge comments. G2 didnt dodge the scrims they dodged the draft. That can also be annoying but is much more common than dodging/ragequitting the whole scrim..
What does dodging the draft mean?
@@itsjustgod9034 I'm only guessing but it sounds like they want to play the same draft multiple times over. Still, if you want to do that be polite and mention that ahead of time.
@@itsjustgod9034 It means that G2 was unhappy with their draft, so they dodged after champ select and re-did the draft. Sounds a bit fucked up but happens more often than people think.
@@alexqq14
Alright, thank you!
Where is monte?
That chart showed the average viewership is still on a downward trend lmao. Oh wow, we gained like, 5k average viewers! Who cares?
4 hours of peak content
Doran is the greatest choker of all and i would also add jackeylove and sadly perhaps 369
Banger
1:17:25 and how many people going do the counter point that LCK won twice with 4th seed. XD
Strange to see Thorin on the left side.
yeah idk about the lane swap thing. i dont like them no because they did make last years worlds kinda boring overall so i dont want them to be the ONLY thing. but i want them to be a small part. and then LIQUID AND FLYQUEST were like the best teams in the world last year at lane swaps. lol it was why Liquid had leads against LNG and WBG. they just lost crucial fights. so yeah flowers comment was weird. but he also does the "america" thing as a gimmick.
great switch. monte has a very feminine voice and would always let Thorin interrupt.
suffering from successful @ the format discussion
For a griefing jungler, I raise you Clid
T1 fighting! Lets go either smash, smash em over the head and K.O. em or Hope (not likely) Guma gets put in and mercs from the solo queue practicing ezreal. Either way, let's go T1.
Thorin talks awfully lot about that Caliste article for someone who just read the title of it
Nice
and yet again thorin is talking about some "fans" that "say something" but it acually never happened or 1 brainless person said it on some dark net forum ... this guy is absurd
Rarely heard such a shitty and toxic way to manipulate and twist Romain's move with the scrims stuff since 2 years, npt everyone think like you, luckily
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idkw g2 keep gambling on the rookie jungler i agree they needed to move on from yike but why move on from it if youre just going to repeat the same process hoping the new guy becames the guy you just kicked? also hans sama and bb will never ever accomplish internationally what g2 claims they want to achieve, much rather have seen the naak nako or the myrwn move on top lane g2s whole thing is being creative bb can only perform on ksante or poppy and same goes for hans sama varus kalista draven and now you kick micky for labrov a rell blitz 2 trick this team maybe still wins europe but its another flop in groups at worlds for sure, one last point on adc why has the carzzy or the upset move never happened?
Saying bb can't achieve is just pure delusion. You people still living in 2023.
CALISTE GOAT KC WIN KC WIN
Noah is a young and emotional person. Why is he attacking him like that? I don't think that tweet was such a big deal. I think it's good that Noah left Fnatic. Bc the expectations were high in Fnatic so he couldn't play well under pressure. But in a team like GX he can play much better. GX is a strong team rn bc of Noah and Jun
Agreed but not gonna lie that was the funniest rant, expecially when he said he noah'd hes shit talking.
Thorin's rants are a part of his nature, those unjustified and spiteful rants are one of the things he's best at, and they are really funny
"LoL is a reflection of human potentian" slow down dawg it's just a game
FUCK I LOVE YOU THOORIN!! 😂 GOING HARD AF THIS MAN CAN COOK!!! 😂🎉