From Simon Magus to Marcion: The First Heretics | Dr. M. David Litwa

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  • Опубликовано: 20 мар 2024
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    In Season 1 | Episode 11 of the History Valley in-person interviews during the SBL conference (November 18-21st), I am joined by Professor M. David Litwa and the topic we cover is in regards to the first Christian heretics from Simon Magus to Marcion.
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Комментарии • 45

  • @History-Valley
    @History-Valley  4 месяца назад +2

    ➡📚Preorder his book! amzn.to/4co0hWX

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 4 месяца назад +4

    Thank you Dr Litwa, thank you Jacob, for a thought provoking conversation.

  • @BluesJesus1959
    @BluesJesus1959 2 месяца назад +1

    Great interview! Thanks to you both guys! Keep it up your wonderful job! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @erichwebb8312
    @erichwebb8312 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the share ….. be well ✝️

  • @tbishop4961
    @tbishop4961 4 месяца назад +4

    Simon needs a movie

    • @simonas8547
      @simonas8547 3 месяца назад

      Books short stories:
      "The Sword of Spartacus" (1978)
      "The Fire of Mazda" (May-Jun 1984)
      "The Seed of the Star-God" (1984)
      "The Blade of the Slayer" (1986)
      "The Soul of Kephri" (Sum 1984)
      "The Ring of Set" (1977)
      "The Worm of Urakhu" (1988)
      "The Curse of the Crocodile" (1987)
      "The Treasure of Horemkhu" (1987)
      "The Scroll of Thoth" (1977)
      "The Dragons of Mons Fractus" (Spr 1984)
      "The Pillars of Melkarth" (1990)
      "The Wedding of Sheila-Na-Gog" (with Glenn Rahman, 1985)
      "The Throne of Achamoth" (with Robert M. Price, 1985)
      The Gardens of Lucullus (with Glenn Rahman, 2001)
      The Drums of Chaos (2008)
      "The Secret of Nephren-Ka" (by Robert M. Price, 2018)

  • @blanch4360
    @blanch4360 2 месяца назад

    💪Saint Paul Apostle👍

  • @johnnonamegibbon3580
    @johnnonamegibbon3580 4 месяца назад

    This is my favorite subject as it implies so much.
    Why didn't anyone but Litwa mention that we have some writings from Simon?

  • @JayWest14
    @JayWest14 3 месяца назад +1

    Seems like there was a lot of confusion among the Christians themselves. There also seems to be a power struggle within the factions of this new ideology. It doesn’t look like there was any real functional body until Rome decided to make it the official state religion.

  • @jimtussing
    @jimtussing 4 месяца назад

    That synth intro.

  • @GeorgeCostanzais10.
    @GeorgeCostanzais10. 4 месяца назад

    Dear Jacob, love your work and dedication to it.
    A tip: cut the sticky part of two black Post It leaves and stick them over that green light of your mic.

    • @hermanhale9258
      @hermanhale9258 4 месяца назад

      They make black Post It notes?

    • @GeorgeCostanzais10.
      @GeorgeCostanzais10. 3 месяца назад

      @@hermanhale9258 They sure do… it’s meant for girls to write on them with those glittery pens… but I use scraps of the sticky part to block webcams on notebooks and selfie cams on phones

    • @hermanhale9258
      @hermanhale9258 3 месяца назад

      @@GeorgeCostanzais10. Oh, well I will look for those. I have always used band aids and kiddie stickers to block lenses. Thanks.

    • @GeorgeCostanzais10.
      @GeorgeCostanzais10. 3 месяца назад

      @@hermanhale9258 You may also use regular Post It (usually yellow) but paint the front of the sticky part with a black pen, like those used to mark CDs/DVDs or to write on white boards.

    • @hermanhale9258
      @hermanhale9258 3 месяца назад

      @@GeorgeCostanzais10. OK. Good idea. Thank you!

  • @annabrown5256
    @annabrown5256 Месяц назад

    How does Litwa not have a wikipedia page yet?

  • @andrewsuryali8540
    @andrewsuryali8540 4 месяца назад +1

    Dr. Litwa is a nucular person!
    I laughed my ass off when I realized why he pronounced nucleus as nuculus. 😂

    • @sciptick
      @sciptick 4 месяца назад

      Who here is uncular on the concept?

  • @jhake67
    @jhake67 4 месяца назад +2

    understanding simon of samaria and marcion of sinope will unlock the mysteries and the missing datas and facts about the start and rise of christianity in the first century...
    that the church unknowingly erased when they deliberately tried to eradicate simon and marcion's teachings and legacies

    • @sciptick
      @sciptick 4 месяца назад +5

      All of that is lost forever, for reasons we probably will never know. What is surprising is that even people writing in the 2nd century had no better information than we have today, and were left to speculate as wildly as people still do today.

    • @jhake67
      @jhake67 4 месяца назад +1

      @@sciptick
      nobody knows...
      then, its a miracle!!!
      🤫😆

    • @jhake67
      @jhake67 4 месяца назад +1

      @judgeaileencannon9607
      Now, that is another interesting simon..

  • @clifb.3521
    @clifb.3521 4 месяца назад

    THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS 32:36

  • @TheLookingOne
    @TheLookingOne 2 месяца назад

    How likely is it that:
    Simon of Samaria was a faith healer who scammed rich Greeks?
    Simon created christian christianity and associated a Galilean Jew with Simon's christ character?
    And that anti-gnostic Greek christians co-opted Simon to create their Saul/Paul character?

  • @lareconquista
    @lareconquista 3 месяца назад

    5:03 argument from silence. What a joke

  • @stephenmascari950
    @stephenmascari950 4 месяца назад

    Sound quality us awful ....

  • @heavenswindsong
    @heavenswindsong 4 месяца назад +1

    This guy is DILUTED in his thoughts...IMO....Hard to follow...

    • @william6223
      @william6223 4 месяца назад +1

      Really?
      All 37 minutes?

    • @heavenswindsong
      @heavenswindsong 4 месяца назад

      @@william6223 Everyone forms an opinion on their own bias….from my own research on Simon Magus to Marcion, I simply don’t agree with all of his analogies…. I will have to go and re-listen to his position to better define my arguments….I wouldn’t commit to ALL 37 MINUTES are diluted, I would agree that it is a lesser number of minutes….

    • @sciptick
      @sciptick 4 месяца назад +1

      @@heavenswindsong What does "diluted" mean, in this context? Is there maybe some other word you mean?

    • @william6223
      @william6223 4 месяца назад

      ​@@sciptickI am guessing the word is deluded.
      I listened to all 37 minutes and did not find Professor Litwa deluded or diluted.
      But this person is most likely a christian.

    • @talonkarrde9904
      @talonkarrde9904 23 дня назад

      @@sciptick He means "deluded".

  • @ltopomcfly5583
    @ltopomcfly5583 4 месяца назад +1

    Simon Magus = Jesus. Thats why he's called a blasphemer. He becomes the face of Christian Gnosticism to separate Gnosticism from Christianity. Jesus was not killed; the Emperor had him taken to Rome. The emperor did this with other popular magicians. "Acts" dismisses Magus because Christians were hearing Jesus was alive in Rome.

    • @cmk1964
      @cmk1964 4 месяца назад +4

      And your evidence? Easy to make up crap and spew it online but prove your knowledge with facts.

    • @willempasterkamp862
      @willempasterkamp862 4 месяца назад

      Simon = dr. Yueh

    • @ltopomcfly5583
      @ltopomcfly5583 4 месяца назад

      You are way too angry and aggressive. Get a girlfriend. This "made up crap" is a popular theory thats been around 1700 years.@@cmk1964​

    • @placeswelive5388
      @placeswelive5388 3 месяца назад +1

      This is straight out of the bong.

    • @ltopomcfly5583
      @ltopomcfly5583 3 месяца назад

      @@placeswelive5388 Idiot, thats literally what Simonians believed 2000 years ago. You dumbasses are just ignorant.