Rick Dior (outstanding player and teacher) was giving advice a few days ago on his RUclips channel about a Marvin Smitty snare with calf heads; a fan of his channel bought one. Rick recommended tuning the top head to A, and the bottom head to F#......so Steve, claiming that drums can’t be tuned to specific notes is to claim they don’t make sound. They vibrate air, and that pitch can be measured. It’s said that Bonham tuned his drums to the song’s key, in the studio (he must have used old school methods in the Pre-TuneBot days; what he chose live on stage I don’t know). The TuneBot is a great teaching aid also. It doesn’t replace ear development, it evaluates that development. (I couldn’t have learned to measure blood pressure by feeling someone’s pulse, without a blood pressure cuff....woodworkers can’t develop their eye for length, angle and curve without rulers and goniometers and...) “In imaginative hands, modern measurement tools help old school techniques survive.” (Tage Frid) All the best Patrick
I like the mid tuning on Steve Jr's kit the best, but wow, these drums sound fantastic at all tunings!! This kit can work for jazz, rock and everything in between!!
Steves' Bop tuning of that green'ish bass drum is... wow, that's how a Jazz bass drum should sound. Fell in love at the first strike of that beater against the head.
My main kit is an AQ2 Safari/Bop combo...just picked up a Stage custom Bebop for a car kit...after 3 years playing various kits in a pop bands... I've come to the conclusion that a good quality 16 or 18 can do just about anything you need.
That RED sparkle kit sounds like a 22", 13, and 16" he's playing! GREAT sounding and has "beef" and depth the others don't...the others sound very thin and "cheap". Is it the maple shells that are making the difference on that one?
wow! very inspiring to watch...love the trade-off's...the kits are exactly as you described them-incredibly versatile from high be-bop to mid-range big band to deep studio rock...these kits seem to possess it all and the playing was also very demonstrative of these said styles...i was never a big fan of 18" bass drums {looks wise or sound wise} the smallest i'd go would be 20" but, 24 or 26" is more in my preferential range but you convinced me there's more to be had with an 18" if the proper head selection and tuning is applied...and... they're a hell of a lot easier to carry around from gig to gig...thanks man...
I need to get new batter heads for the rack tom and floor tom for my Sonor 'Bop' kit..not the SQ2 model but the regular 'Bop' kit. After listening to this I'll probably get Evans '56 Calftone batter heads I have them on several other drums I really like them..nice warm full tone. They kinda struck the mid-ground between the coated heads on Steve's kit (which I assume were equivalent of Remo Ambassadors) and Noah's kit with the clear Pinstripes (a bit too dry and 'dead' for me). Nice playing guys.
Was thinking of upgrading from my silver sparkle Sonor Bop kit 18x16, 12, 14 but these all sound great at all tuning ranges! Hopefully my poplar/basswood shells can come close 😂
Great kits Steve & Company!! I wanted to ask about the shel layup for Steve Jr's kit as I did not see the listing on Reverb? The Pastel kit has two links listed. Thanks Steve!!
@@memopadilla5931 I think the Medium shell sounds the best memo. I had Sonor Prolites(Vintage Shell) about 3yrs ago and I didn't like them. They sounded too dry for my taste.
@@davidedwards7448 Yeah I usually like the thicker Sonor shells.. but this vid I posted above is the regular 5mm thin.. NOT the Prolite 4mm/rings... But listen to it.. I think it sounds the best of Maxwells vids..
When your not playing modern jazz with a quick tempo and saying like at the start of every phrase “Like , that cat is square man , he is not hip “ “ dig it” “Like , drummer , your bass drum is exceedingly large for this groove , it is not hip ! “ “ you must get hip and reduce your real estate thusly “ “I concur” Vouty o’ roonio “Alas oh purveyor of drums please make me a 20” bass drum and a 14”x14” floor tom and i will be hip again and drop bombs “
Modern sonor kits are probably some of the nicest kits being made today
True.
The Red Kit sounds amazing in this low Tuning.
Rick Dior (outstanding player and teacher) was giving advice a few days ago on his RUclips channel about a Marvin Smitty snare with calf heads; a fan of his channel bought one. Rick recommended tuning the top head to A, and the bottom head to F#......so Steve, claiming that drums can’t be tuned to specific notes is to claim they don’t make sound. They vibrate air, and that pitch can be measured.
It’s said that Bonham tuned his drums to the song’s key, in the studio (he must have used old school methods in the Pre-TuneBot days; what he chose live on stage I don’t know).
The TuneBot is a great teaching aid also. It doesn’t replace ear development, it evaluates that development. (I couldn’t have learned to measure blood pressure by feeling someone’s pulse, without a blood pressure cuff....woodworkers can’t develop their eye for length, angle and curve without rulers and goniometers and...)
“In imaginative hands, modern measurement tools help old school techniques survive.” (Tage Frid)
All the best
Patrick
My Favorite Sound is Steve Junior's Kit.. Killer Job Guys!!!!
The three amigos!
Steve and Son! Lovely!
I like the mid tuning on Steve Jr's kit the best, but wow, these drums sound fantastic at all tunings!! This kit can work for jazz, rock and everything in between!!
This was actually enjoyable to watch
That's it, I'm going to get me a Sonor bop kits. Man, those drums sing.
Still love my Horst Link era drums! I do really like the sq2 also.
Good Lord I love drum offs!!🤖🛸
You guys have been practicing haven't YOU! That was big fun.
Steve Jr's is my favorite, but they are all great Sonor kits! I love my Sonor Sunset Beech Bop kit! Thanks and Blessings!
Steve Jr’s was my favorite, all were amazing.
They sound amazing, thank you. I prefer the high tuning, however, it all about the options. Thank you Guy's.
I would say a bop kit is all in tuning, a 20 or 18 kick with a 12 and 14 toms can be great rock set ups if you tune them medium to low
Steves' Bop tuning of that green'ish bass drum is... wow, that's how a Jazz bass drum should sound. Fell in love at the first strike of that beater against the head.
man, that red sparkle is killer all around
Cool......thanks !
My main kit is an AQ2 Safari/Bop combo...just picked up a Stage custom Bebop for a car kit...after 3 years playing various kits in a pop bands... I've come to the conclusion that a good quality 16 or 18 can do just about anything you need.
That RED sparkle kit sounds like a 22", 13, and 16" he's playing! GREAT sounding and has "beef" and depth the others don't...the others sound very thin and "cheap". Is it the maple shells that are making the difference on that one?
wow! very inspiring to watch...love the trade-off's...the kits are exactly as you described them-incredibly versatile from high be-bop to mid-range big band to deep studio rock...these kits seem to possess it all and the playing was also very demonstrative of these said styles...i was never a big fan of 18" bass drums {looks wise or sound wise} the smallest i'd go would be 20" but, 24 or 26" is more in my preferential range but you convinced me there's more to be had with an 18" if the proper head selection and tuning is applied...and... they're a hell of a lot easier to carry around from gig to gig...thanks man...
Great video. I keep my bopper tuned fairly low. But it still works for jazz along with rock or modern country, (Which is Rock).
Great Video Thanks !! Had so much fun With it !!!!!
very helpful vid ty!
Great demonstration. I've been using a 12/14/18 kit for quite some time now and it is very versatile. Pop/Rock/Jazz/R&B... Thanks
I need to get new batter heads for the rack tom and floor tom for my Sonor 'Bop' kit..not the SQ2 model but the regular 'Bop' kit. After listening to this I'll probably get Evans '56 Calftone batter heads I have them on several other drums I really like them..nice warm full tone. They kinda struck the mid-ground between the coated heads on Steve's kit (which I assume were equivalent of Remo Ambassadors) and Noah's kit with the clear Pinstripes (a bit too dry and 'dead' for me). Nice playing guys.
Was thinking of upgrading from my silver sparkle Sonor Bop kit 18x16, 12, 14 but these all sound great at all tuning ranges! Hopefully my poplar/basswood shells can come close 😂
Beautiful!
I want the red one!
Sonor SQ2 great sound in all tuning range.. And some....
These kits are amazing! I got one recently and I can't believe how good they are for the money.
Love all 3
for some reason the sea foam kit sounds the best ;) nice kits.
Awesome video. All tunings sound great
I like the green one.:.
Good job !! 💥
Sonor toms with Pinstripes sound dead to me.
When it won’t fit in a nyc cab.
You prefer the safari?
Steve snr for chops and Steve jr for the best sound
That was cool ! They all sounded great. I loved that high tuning though , how did you tune high like that ?
Just keep tightening the tension rods until the tuning is high.
Great kits Steve & Company!! I wanted to ask about the shel layup for Steve Jr's kit as I did not see the listing on Reverb? The Pastel kit has two links listed. Thanks Steve!!
That is a Medium shell.......... What do you think of this THIN shell option?? ruclips.net/video/UYsDFbxBXaU/видео.html
@@memopadilla5931 I think the Medium shell sounds the best memo. I had Sonor Prolites(Vintage Shell) about 3yrs ago and I didn't like them. They sounded too dry for my taste.
@@davidedwards7448 Yeah I usually like the thicker Sonor shells.. but this vid I posted above is the regular 5mm thin.. NOT the Prolite 4mm/rings... But listen to it.. I think it sounds the best of Maxwells vids..
Sea foam sounded best. I think because you were playing them.
Sound good, but not close to Gretsch
When your not playing modern jazz with a quick tempo and saying like at the start of every phrase
“Like , that cat is square man , he is not hip “
“ dig it”
“Like , drummer , your bass drum is exceedingly large for this groove , it is not hip ! “
“ you must get hip and reduce your real estate thusly “
“I concur”
Vouty o’ roonio
“Alas oh purveyor of drums please make me a 20” bass drum and a 14”x14” floor tom and i will be hip again and drop bombs “
Pinstripes? Big NO!
The lowest tuning is bad