Continue with the nerd knowledge! I’m not drinking alcohol anymore, but I’m still here for the education, history lessons, and personal stories. I’ve actually learned so much from you Daniel. Thank you for your time and patience. Peace
Thanks for the Octomore love. Not to brag, but I have no fewer than 12 or 15 different bottles of Octomore in my cabinet, and Octomore is my very favorite whisky. I have all 3 14s and the 14.1 is great. Thanks again for the love. (:
@@PeatedSander 6.3 is my favorite followed by 4.2. If we are going to brag, I think I have close to 25 different releases including all the 10 year olds, future and the beast.
We were out with friends and I had the bartender open the 'secret' cabinet and bought a double of Octomore. It was one of the highest PPM. I let everyone smell it. One friend took a sip -- he's a Scotch drinker and appreciated it. Then Vicki took a sip. In my 64 years I have never heard someone throw F-bombs and the word EVIL so many times and with such intensity. To this day Vicki is still emotionally scarred by the experience, LOL. I had warned them...
Thank God for this new format for the Whisky Vault! While enjoyed the old WV this is so much more up my alley. Whoever is doing the editing might want to consider putting the technical words at the bottom of the screen.
As always, an enjoyable education. This might not be for everyone (maybe another new channel?) but I love the technical aspects of whisky production and flavor. I'd personally watch more of that but I love all the content you produce.
you int foolin me with any more smoked whiskeys.. you convinced me to go get lugovulin 16 back in your early years of youtubing and i still havent quite forgiven you yet lol
I didn't even like peated Scotch when I first tried it, but after a little while, I liked it more and more. Now, it's my favorite whisky. The best liquor I've ever had is Laphroaig 10 original cask strength, batch 12. Superb.
I couldn't agree more with the others Daniel. I absolutely love this! More please. There are so many of us who love whisky but our thirst/passion for knowledge surrounding it is 'crazy'. I have various peated ones in my cupboard.... the usuals... But just bought a Cotswolds peated.. and can't wait to open it. to try something different.. and gain experience and yep more knowledge. thanks mate. AL
Thanks for this info. Can't tell you how many times people look at me like I am crazy when I bring up the band,aid smell and taste. Now I can point them to this video and not be the crazy drunk guy at the bar.
Welcome all Whiskey Vaulters to Smokey Nerdy Story Time with Daniel! I love Octomore (I have the 13.1 still to drink), and it plus Port Charlotte and Dark Arts were my gateway entries into whisky. I had a great tasting experience when they were first being distributed into CT at my local shop.
My in-laws gifted me a 25 year old Islay by the name of Grace Ile. It sits at 48% ABV and I got it while stationed in the UK. It’s smoky for sure, but when you mentioned “medicinal” I had to go nose the bottle. Sure enough, I get hints of iodine and bandaids. Love it!
A few months ago I had a bad sore throat, as opposed to a good one, and a friend told me to go get a sore throat spray. I went to buy some and of course there were several to choose from so I bought two. I sprayed Chlorasepic max into my throat and immediately said out loud “Laphroig!”
Thank you for very scientifically describing the flavor and aroma compounds that I viscerally dislike. More power to everyone who loves smoked bandaids. You can have mine, send your minty herbal rye my way and everyone can be happy.
OCTOMORE 🔥🤤 I tried the 14.3 and loved it but could only find a bottle of 14.2 and it’s also amazing! 😅 definitely worth the price tag. I appreciate the nerdiness
I bought it for $250 just because I wanted the experience of one of the highest concentrations of peat in any Scotch whiskey. It's a wild ride and I was not disappointed.
Just returned from Scotland and did the warehouse tasting at Bruichladdich and got to taste a 20yr Laddie, 20yr Port Charlotte and a great 14yr Octomore and while the Octomore was fantastic, I agree that the lower age statements on heavily peated are more complex, challenging and as a result rewarding. Great episode, cheers!
As someone who started their whiskey journey by spending the first year only reading about how whiskey is made and all the nerdy whiskey bits (not actually tasting/drinking whiskey) , I really appreciate this video. Thanks Daniel!
I agree with many others here, this is absolutely the kind of whisky nerd content that we love! I’ve recently been doing a deep dive into the chemistry of whisky and have found a number of good references online, but is there a particular book that delves deep into this? I know you’ve recommended some reading in the past, just can’t recall where that list is these days. 😜
Birthday before last I made the trip down to Crowded Barrel and brought along an Octo 6.1, a Glendronach CS batch 7, and a batch 5 (2013) Laphroaig CS to open with you and Rex if you were around. You weren't (it was a Sunday) but the people (who shall remain unnamed) running things said "Hey, stick around and maybe we can take a Backpack Tour afterwards!" The Octo was opened at a certain point and I finally experienced the Funky Cheese aspect of heavily peated whiskey. 😂
A great study in cask and peat is the Lagavulin 2022 Special Release. Heavily charred casks and heavily peated it ticks all the boxes from soaked flowerbeds through medicinal peat to bonfire smoke. I love Octomore but because they use highland peat you don't get that tarry, asphalt note.
I understand the chemistry that produces the "Bandaid smell/taste". And while I completely agree with to each their own palate, drink the one you like, etc...for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would want to drink liquid Bandaids. It's just not an appealing odor/taste to me. I do like smoked foods and smokey whiskey that doesn't smell/taste like Bandaids. Cheers.
Octomore and Ardbeg Wee Beasty are my favourite whiskeys. Love a whiskey that slaps me round, makes me pay attention, and treats me like a lil' b**** 😂
My only gripe with octomore is the price. I love bruchladdich and the 10 year is my go to. I can buy 3-4 bottles of the regular 10 year for the price of 1 octomore. Either way thanks for the video starting to get used to the new format. Cheers!
The price is why I stopped purchasing Octomore starting will the 13 series. I have so many octomores that I could open 1 bottle every 6 months for 12.5 years
Talk nerdy to me. On another note people who I've introduced to Scotch also say it tastes like cleaning products so now I can explain where it comes from.
Also a fun fact about bitter food. What Daniel said about bitter flavour being common in poisonous food, is the reason why babies spit out bitter tasting food, it's a survival instinct.
Ohhh man... I can smell a malting floor in this glass. And the way it keeps shifting and changing... Amazing! GAHHHH I'm so excited for Somm I in November... also my wife & I are going to Scotland for our 25th anniversary next year, which happens to be the week of Fèis Ìle... 😍
I've always wanted to try Octomore, even the bottle looks cool. But man, I ain't got that kind of money. What Daniel left out is Octomore runs between $200-250 USD.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Never had octomore, but I would love to check it out. I don't know if I would like it. I love meaty whiskey like Ardbeg, but I don't know how ashy whiskey would go. Can we see Powers 3 swallow review?
Curious, Daniel, I hear what you’re saying about the PPM issue, but we love transparency too. What would your ideal transparent label include? PPM level followed by “wide cuts” or “narrow cuts”?
Have the 13.1 and love it!!! Have the 14.2 and not my favorite. With the 14.2, I guess there were some PX barrel aging. PX barrel aging just doesn't work for peated-Isley Scotches. PX is more at home with Highland Scotches, which can be fantastic.
I believe the PPM is only based on the barley content. The mass spec method made to measure the PPM is only made (currently) for barley, but I’m sure there is someone out there developing a new method
So, if that is what causes the "medicinal" taste and aroma, is it a similar thing that causes the presentation of rubber with a lot of Islay scotches? I say Islay scotches because it is not simply the heavily peated Islays that have that show up for me. It is slowly being picked apart for me into brine and iodine, but it still sometimes shows up for me in smokey single malts
To me, Lagavulin with a 16 year age statement is one of the most peated whiskies. With 16 years in a barrell, how do they keep the smoke? What’s their PPM?
Poured a 14.1 to drink along. I'm picking up a sweet perfume or soap note on the nose that I can not pinpoint. I'm thinking it's the grain / new make coming through. Any suggestions?
@WhiskeyVault Thank you, I watched both and it was very helpful. I actually thought you were saying "hard" cuts so it was helpful right off the bat finding out it was "hearts". Again, both were very helpful, so thank you. Cheers 🥃
Does age affect those smokey or briny notes from newmake? Mellowing them out or enhancing them? I’m also curious about how Talisker adds smoke now, specifically Talisker Storm
Okay, this might get into the advanced nerdiness here. I am a huge BBQ guy. A self proclaimed pit master. I smoke several full packer briskets in a month, pork butts, ribs sausage, chicken, cheese etc… I want to like peated scotch, I even have had a few in my cabinet. My hearts burning desire is to pop a whiskey open and find a mesquite or hickory or oak smoked nose on the grain. Instead of burning peat is it not possible to do what Texas does best and actually ’smoke’ the grain with hard wood instead of ’earth moss’?
I love the "nerd" factor. Give us more please!
As a guy getting into more Scotch and Irish, this is very helpful information. Absolutely love the NERD SHIT!🎓🥃❤️🥃
Continue with the nerd knowledge! I’m not drinking alcohol anymore, but I’m still here for the education, history lessons, and personal stories. I’ve actually learned so much from you Daniel. Thank you for your time and patience. Peace
Peated whiskey is my favourite of all whiskey! love the stuff. cheers
Thanks for the Octomore love. Not to brag, but I have no fewer than 12 or 15 different bottles of Octomore in my cabinet, and Octomore is my very favorite whisky. I have all 3 14s and the 14.1 is great. Thanks again for the love. (:
Is 6.3 really the best?
@@PeatedSander 6.3 is my favorite followed by 4.2. If we are going to brag, I think I have close to 25 different releases including all the 10 year olds, future and the beast.
We were out with friends and I had the bartender open the 'secret' cabinet and bought a double of Octomore. It was one of the highest PPM. I let everyone smell it. One friend took a sip -- he's a Scotch drinker and appreciated it. Then Vicki took a sip.
In my 64 years I have never heard someone throw F-bombs and the word EVIL so many times and with such intensity. To this day Vicki is still emotionally scarred by the experience, LOL. I had warned them...
Daniel, as a chemist who loves all whiskies, Thank you. I was understandable and not as nerdy as you thought.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
wow. love the in-depth analysis. Now I have more facts to tell my wife while she rolls her eyes at me.
Thank God for this new format for the Whisky Vault! While enjoyed the old WV this is so much more up my alley. Whoever is doing the editing might want to consider putting the technical words at the bottom of the screen.
I am a chemical engineer. Thank you for the chemistry lesson as I can red sauce and sip Woodford
This is the best breakdown ever on this! Need to revisit my bottle of the OCT 14.1 and play this again. 🥃
Science lesson and a whiskey review, love it!
Daniel... I loved the outro music and final word. thank you
As always, an enjoyable education. This might not be for everyone (maybe another new channel?) but I love the technical aspects of whisky production and flavor. I'd personally watch more of that but I love all the content you produce.
you int foolin me with any more smoked whiskeys.. you convinced me to go get lugovulin 16 back in your early years of youtubing and i still havent quite forgiven you yet lol
I didn't even like peated Scotch when I first tried it, but after a little while, I liked it more and more. Now, it's my favorite whisky. The best liquor I've ever had is Laphroaig 10 original cask strength, batch 12. Superb.
I couldn't agree more with the others Daniel. I absolutely love this! More please. There are so many of us who love whisky but our thirst/passion for knowledge surrounding it is 'crazy'. I have various peated ones in my cupboard.... the usuals... But just bought a Cotswolds peated.. and can't wait to open it. to try something different.. and gain experience and yep more knowledge.
thanks mate.
AL
Thanks for this info. Can't tell you how many times people look at me like I am crazy when I bring up the band,aid smell and taste. Now I can point them to this video and not be the crazy drunk guy at the bar.
Nice, a friend and I compared 5 different Octomores recently. The 14.1 did very well.
An excellent and informative video! More like this, please. Cheers, Daniel!
Daniel, thank you for this explanation. I never knew where that smell came from, I just knew that I loved it.
Welcome all Whiskey Vaulters to Smokey Nerdy Story Time with Daniel!
I love Octomore (I have the 13.1 still to drink), and it plus Port Charlotte and Dark Arts were my gateway entries into whisky. I had a great tasting experience when they were first being distributed into CT at my local shop.
Sweet!! I picked this bottle up in Dublin!! Gonna watch tonight and sip along with you
My in-laws gifted me a 25 year old Islay by the name of Grace Ile. It sits at 48% ABV and I got it while stationed in the UK. It’s smoky for sure, but when you mentioned “medicinal” I had to go nose the bottle.
Sure enough, I get hints of iodine and bandaids. Love it!
A few months ago I had a bad sore throat, as opposed to a good one, and a friend told me to go get a sore throat spray. I went to buy some and of course there were several to choose from so I bought two. I sprayed Chlorasepic max into my throat and immediately said out loud “Laphroig!”
whiskey is applied chemistry! cheers all
Oh such a super nerdy video. But I'm definitely here for it. Thank you for another great conversation 🥃
Thank you for very scientifically describing the flavor and aroma compounds that I viscerally dislike. More power to everyone who loves smoked bandaids. You can have mine, send your minty herbal rye my way and everyone can be happy.
lagavulin 16 and highland park 12 on the shelf. Old forester 1910 currently in the glass
We all need to hear more of this type of content. Thank you
OCTOMORE 🔥🤤 I tried the 14.3 and loved it but could only find a bottle of 14.2 and it’s also amazing! 😅 definitely worth the price tag. I appreciate the nerdiness
I may actually pick up a bottle of this just because of this episode.
I bought it for $250 just because I wanted the experience of one of the highest concentrations of peat in any Scotch whiskey. It's a wild ride and I was not disappointed.
Just returned from Scotland and did the warehouse tasting at Bruichladdich and got to taste a 20yr Laddie, 20yr Port Charlotte and a great 14yr Octomore and while the Octomore was fantastic, I agree that the lower age statements on heavily peated are more complex, challenging and as a result rewarding. Great episode, cheers!
As someone who started their whiskey journey by spending the first year only reading about how whiskey is made and all the nerdy whiskey bits (not actually tasting/drinking whiskey) , I really appreciate this video. Thanks Daniel!
just ordered me a bottle I just got to try 13.1 the other day
Love the nerdy stuff! Keep it coming! It would be awesome to have its own designation/Playlist on here like the gifted drams.
Love this type of content! Keep it coming
I love ALL nerd knowledge on many topics. Especially this.
OCTOMORE 🔥🤤 I tried the 14.3 and loved it but could only find a bottle of 14.2 and it’s also amazing! 😅 definitely worth the price tag
I agree with many others here, this is absolutely the kind of whisky nerd content that we love! I’ve recently been doing a deep dive into the chemistry of whisky and have found a number of good references online, but is there a particular book that delves deep into this? I know you’ve recommended some reading in the past, just can’t recall where that list is these days. 😜
Love getting into the nitty-gritty🔥
Love, love, love this Octomore!!
Fantastic Episode sir! I learned a lot on this one.
Birthday before last I made the trip down to Crowded Barrel and brought along an Octo 6.1, a Glendronach CS batch 7, and a batch 5 (2013) Laphroaig CS to open with you and Rex if you were around. You weren't (it was a Sunday) but the people (who shall remain unnamed) running things said "Hey, stick around and maybe we can take a Backpack Tour afterwards!" The Octo was opened at a certain point and I finally experienced the Funky Cheese aspect of heavily peated whiskey. 😂
Brilliant video. Octomore .1 is my hands down favorite. I'm working on a bottle of 9.1 now.
Definitely try at whisky bar before purchasing, stuff is really $$$
For me, Laphroaig will always have the most "band-aid" flavor of any of the Islay single malts.
and this is why i ad two drops of Pine-Sol to my Old Grandad 114 when I'm out of Scotch.
Octomore price is out of my range but im drinking a dram of Ardbeg Ugy so close enough for now. cheers
Thank you for this. More “nerd” content please!
Loved this nerdy vid! Thanks Dan
A great study in cask and peat is the Lagavulin 2022 Special Release. Heavily charred casks and heavily peated it ticks all the boxes from soaked flowerbeds through medicinal peat to bonfire smoke. I love Octomore but because they use highland peat you don't get that tarry, asphalt note.
I like Octomore 🥃 It's one of the many Scotches I like
I understand the chemistry that produces the "Bandaid smell/taste". And while I completely agree with to each their own palate, drink the one you like, etc...for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would want to drink liquid Bandaids. It's just not an appealing odor/taste to me. I do like smoked foods and smokey whiskey that doesn't smell/taste like Bandaids. Cheers.
I've experienced those phenols most recently in Connemara Irish - so personally off-putting I gave the bottle away to someone who appreciates that.
Octomore and Ardbeg Wee Beasty are my favourite whiskeys. Love a whiskey that slaps me round, makes me pay attention, and treats me like a lil' b**** 😂
Damn good video
I had an unopened bottle of Octomore 14.1……it’s now open…and i’ll second your “Good God that’s smokey”…..
My only gripe with octomore is the price. I love bruchladdich and the 10 year is my go to. I can buy 3-4 bottles of the regular 10 year for the price of 1 octomore. Either way thanks for the video starting to get used to the new format. Cheers!
The price is why I stopped purchasing Octomore starting will the 13 series. I have so many octomores that I could open 1 bottle every 6 months for 12.5 years
Talk nerdy to me.
On another note people who I've introduced to Scotch also say it tastes like cleaning products so now I can explain where it comes from.
I like the title, somebody put that as a candle scent please
Also a fun fact about bitter food. What Daniel said about bitter flavour being common in poisonous food, is the reason why babies spit out bitter tasting food, it's a survival instinct.
So the Angels like their share to be the smoky part of the whiskey, good to know
Also The Whiskey Bandaids could be the next great band name 😂
My favorite….❤
Dan - "God this is such a nerdy video..."
Me - "Hell yeah it is! Awesome!"
Octomore is so f’n good. Just wish for a younger whiskey it was in a younger whiskey budget.
Don't have the 14.1, but I'll join you with 14.2 instead. Great video!
Ohhh man... I can smell a malting floor in this glass. And the way it keeps shifting and changing... Amazing! GAHHHH I'm so excited for Somm I in November... also my wife & I are going to Scotland for our 25th anniversary next year, which happens to be the week of Fèis Ìle... 😍
I've always wanted to try Octomore, even the bottle looks cool. But man, I ain't got that kind of money. What Daniel left out is Octomore runs between $200-250 USD.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Never had octomore, but I would love to check it out. I don't know if I would like it. I love meaty whiskey like Ardbeg, but I don't know how ashy whiskey would go. Can we see Powers 3 swallow review?
Curious, Daniel, I hear what you’re saying about the PPM issue, but we love transparency too. What would your ideal transparent label include? PPM level followed by “wide cuts” or “narrow cuts”?
Video idea... interview Alan Bishop and just nerd out!
Have the 13.1 and love it!!! Have the 14.2 and not my favorite. With the 14.2, I guess there were some PX barrel aging. PX barrel aging just doesn't work for peated-Isley Scotches. PX is more at home with Highland Scotches, which can be fantastic.
14.2 is Amarone (Italian Red Wine) and Oloroso sherry, but I agree px doesnt sit too well with heavily peated whisky.
My first Octomore is also the 13.1 and it is a fantastic whisky. I blame the vault for the Octomore shaped hole in my bank account 😂
Creosole - is that the black soot on wooden power poles? Tar like substance mmmm yummy. lol
I believe the PPM is only based on the barley content. The mass spec method made to measure the PPM is only made (currently) for barley, but I’m sure there is someone out there developing a new method
Frey Ranch is a bourbon that highlights the grain. And as a bonus the bottle can be used as a weapon. It will crack the skull of a mountain gorilla.
So, if that is what causes the "medicinal" taste and aroma, is it a similar thing that causes the presentation of rubber with a lot of Islay scotches? I say Islay scotches because it is not simply the heavily peated Islays that have that show up for me. It is slowly being picked apart for me into brine and iodine, but it still sometimes shows up for me in smokey single malts
Yea!
As a peated whiskey fan, this level of detail was on point! Thanks, Daniel! Keep it coming.
Am I doing something wrong or will the reference documents be linked somewhere?
Love the Laddich lineup, still waiting for my chance at Octomore!
What he said! However, Octomore is nice Smokey whisky!
To me, Lagavulin with a 16 year age statement is one of the most peated whiskies. With 16 years in a barrell, how do they keep the smoke? What’s their PPM?
Where are the links to the articles mentioned?
In some Bourbons I find meat fat hitting hot charcoal on the pallet.
Octomore!!
Poured a 14.1 to drink along. I'm picking up a sweet perfume or soap note on the nose that I can not pinpoint. I'm thinking it's the grain / new make coming through. Any suggestions?
When I tasted Octomore out of the barrel, I got zero Band-Aid taste from it. Was that just the particular barrel, or am I slowly becoming acclimated?
Is there a video about "cuts"? If not, can you do one?
Maybe this will help!
ruclips.net/video/po4VjaBWQ0E/видео.html
@WhiskeyVault Thank you, I watched both and it was very helpful. I actually thought you were saying "hard" cuts so it was helpful right off the bat finding out it was "hearts". Again, both were very helpful, so thank you. Cheers 🥃
This is how and why ...you are not Rex, but quite as entertaining. ^^
Does age affect those smokey or briny notes from newmake? Mellowing them out or enhancing them? I’m also curious about how Talisker adds smoke now, specifically Talisker Storm
That's from the smoked grain.
Yes, mellowing them usually, that's why the no age statement smokies still taste excellent!
Okay, this might get into the advanced nerdiness here. I am a huge BBQ guy. A self proclaimed pit master. I smoke several full packer briskets in a month, pork butts, ribs sausage, chicken, cheese etc…
I want to like peated scotch, I even have had a few in my cabinet. My hearts burning desire is to pop a whiskey open and find a mesquite or hickory or oak smoked nose on the grain. Instead of burning peat is it not possible to do what Texas does best and actually ’smoke’ the grain with hard wood instead of ’earth moss’?
Try Whiskey Del Bac - they ‘mesquite’ their barley instead of peat it!
Give me a bottle of Carolina Reaper for my food and a bottle of Islay scotch and my brain is in euphoria.
I've had whiskey remind me of the smell of a hospital SOOOO many times.
Where is the Mooch? Did you guys break up the band?
Did you hide that bottle from Rex?
Good old Grumpy O'Fart
Ask rex how a whiskey bum like myself can get to try octomore
My lady picks up band-aid in bourbons wgich I don't. I can isolate different nose and flavor profiles for my notes that she doesn't.
First active ingredient- phenol.
I miss the banter :(
Sooooo, what I’m hearing is…Islay whisky will act as a band-aid for a broken heart and/or disinfect your insides against bugs in the Winter 😂