The Health & Lifespan of Diablo Immortal
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- The Health & Lifespan of Diablo Immortal
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The leaked paragon details here: ruclips.net/video/fp3-1XsvShg/видео.html
They could also let veterans get to change their characters to seasonal so they could get whatever benefits they can get from it
IMO Immortal is still a game where Blizz is trying to milk as much money from each player as possible with its egregious pay to win mechanics. If they ever change their monetization of the game from pay to win to pay to progress faster by not barring anything from free to play players. Where free to play players can grind to catch up to the whales, which atm I highly doubt that they will do. The focus in a pay to progress faster could be cosmetics and account services. Where they could still sell eternal orbs, plat, eternal legendary crests, etc... It just wouldn't be their primary money maker.
They are more than likely to keep raising the bar where the whales will go even higher and higher. I hope though that Blizz proves me wrong. If nothing changes to where free to play feels welcomed and appreciated then I see this game dying out before hitting the fifth year let alone ten years.
Genshin Impact continually whips Immortal's backside in making money for its developer. That game gives players a way to earn the premium currency by just playing the game. So nothing is barred from free to play players and it still generates in the billions per year. While Immortal only has made a little over a billion in 2 years of existence. It is bad when a game like Impact that is not part of a known franchise, anime, or manga to out perform Immortal that is part of the Diablo franchise.
According to you just because the pay to win mechanics is what supports the game makes having such mechanics okay in your book. Take a look at Genshin Impact and I am sure you will see a vast difference. Nothing is left behind a pay wall that you must have in order to play or compete. You can with grinding catch up to the whales in the game. And the game still makes billions per year. Compared to Immortal that probably barely made over a billion dollars in 2 years. When Genshin Impact made three times that in the same time period.
Our time is just as important as money is in any game. Any time when a free to play players time spent in game isn't appreciated they leave. Because that time could be spent either playing other games or even making money doing other things that would earn them money instead of playing games.
Supporting the pay to win by saying there is nothing wrong with it because it is how the game makes money. Then when others are saying the same thing this gets Blizz to think that it is okay to keep the egregious pay to win model.
The only reason why I am a bit hopeful that things will change for the better is the fact that seasons will mean no pay to win mechanics at all. This means that there is a small chance that if it is indeed successful enough that it comes over to the the rest of the regions. If it causes people to return to the game just to play seasons. Then if Blizz sees that the revenue generated due to the addition of seasons is huge then that might mean that the monetization system of immortal could change from egregious pay to win to pay to progress faster. Otherwise I don't lay out any hope at all that will fix the vast chasm of difference that is between free to play and whales. That chasm will only keep getting larger as Blizz will be force to put more things in for the whales to spend money on.
I don't think that any of the numbers that were leaked are likely to be proven true. Although I could be wrong, I highly doubt it though.
The paragon system is not all that hard to figure out. Just look at the trees and most will be able to tell which one will work out. Even if it does look hard you have the Johnny on the spot respect system like D3 that you can change your points whenever you want. So a player can try a lot of different trees to see which one works best for them.
Diablo 3 has around 20 difficulties so adding five more to Immortal wouldn't kill it at all.
It doesn't matter how much passion a dev team has if the developer wants the game to continue to be pay to win or not. Their passion cannot stop the developer from having them develop the game in a way that will milk as much money from their players as possible. Sure passion is important as far as developing a high quality game and have good game modes. But it has zero control over their bosses which are the leaders of Blizz.
Blizz can still keep the game going so they can get as much money out of their players as possible before killing the game. They don't have to have a sequel or other game that is similar that will be the next one that takes its place in order for them to have plans in the future of kill Immortal if that is their goal.
Blizz used to be so proud of WoW that they gave the monthly players that are playing the game. They no longer do that because they are no longer proud of those totals that have no doubt are a lot lower than the last reported total, whatever that total was.
from PC to mobile as an adult is a natural transition as one gets older- the young will eventually ‘get it’, DI, eveonline and soon the division…cant wait!
Been waiting on division for along time. 5k hrs in div 2 4k hrs in div1. Wish it'd hurry up lol.
Hi Echo. Great video. I agree with you on most things you said. Most mobile games you log on play for 30 mins. And you feel like you have made progress. Immortal doesn't feel that way for me. You need to grind the game for hours and hours. The biggest problem though I feel. The community isn't listened to by the devs. New content is just churned out update after update. The bugs with all these updates are mostly ignored. As you are if you report a bug or issue. THIS WILL BE WHAT KILLS IMMORTAL. It causes frustration and a feeling that all they care about is making money.even an acknowledgement of a report you made. Would be progress. Look at Battlegrounds. Blizzard tinkers with it. In an attempt of appearing to trybto fix. When if they wanted to fix it. It would be so easy to do.1 point. When you click on a match. No changes can be made to your character at all. It's so simple. Just 1 point. I would like tosee a few changes. Crests could be earned in game by playing. Normal gems need to be looked at. The sheer volume of gems needed to upgrade is ridiculous. The caps are way to low for these. Change the pet systems. way to complicated. I know why it was made this way. Basically what I'm saying. Make it much more player friendly. Thus more exciting and rewarding to play.
I would describe myself as a mid spender. But in recent times have stopped. We need to be able to select our gem drops. For legendary as well as normal gems. Thus allowing a focus on what to upgrade. There is now too many legendary gems in the game. Making it nearly impossible to upgrade your gems. Hope this makes sense. But is ok if you do not agree. After all is just my opinion. Many thanks for the content.❤
Really great comment. Some excellent points made here.
Totally agree! It's the amount of hours I need to commit each day to stay on top.
The game also contains a grinders punishment feature. The further above paragon you get the less you earn.
I think my server had a dip in the number of new players, only for it to rebound some. I use to enter a random dungeon instantly, but now there's noticeable wait almost every time, and sometimes I wait so long, the server gives up. Also, I've seen many times where Tundra Ancient Relics "escorting" had one or no players beside me. Hopefully, this is just an indication that there are many competing things for players to do. My server has recovered some, but it's nowhere near as populated as it was over a year ago.
I definitely agree with the better PC experience. It's very glitchy. I prefer it now but it can be very frustrating.
I completely stopped spending on this because I see the obvious as far back as two updates ago. I have plenty of expendable income but refuse! This is not a game for the average player who chooses not to bankrupt themselves. How you’re defending it is evidence of the decline. Goodbye DI, can’t wait to see this cash cow evaporate
Save this comment. Re-read it in two years.
People said the same thing in the beginning, it's been almost 2 years now and it's still bringing in new players.
Bye
Big salty you is. 😅 must of got melted by a whale.
Not much about this game makes spending money necessary apart from leaderboards, extra cosmetics, and PVP content. Everything else in the game is available to F2P and low spending players.
If it wasn't for community I'd still be in Hell 5 or 6. Thanks to community I'm rocking Inferno 5 pushing 6. PVP is fun as heck. Lots of PVE stuff to do. As a new player of 2-3 months basically only buying the Battlepass I'm having a blast.
Always watching your videos here in the Philippines 😊
Well Said Echo at Video Timing @17min:04secs. I played Diablo II xPac LoD in early 2000 in my early twenties and after 10 years into the Adult World Job Market into my 30s, often wished there is a Moba version of Diablo. After 10 years of wishing now in my 40s, thanks all the Developers that create this game on Moba so I have the nostalgia and my childhood happy memories.
Interstingly I am still regularly refreshing my D2 Accounts once every 3 months. Servers are dead but kind of waste to let it be expried.
Good that the Moba version appears so it is a contiuation for me to transit from D2 to DI.
Of course the other of my Childhood PC game is DooM but unfortunately not surviving well under the Activision Blizzard Pusblisher, seems to conincides with the issues facing Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4. Whether or not if Microsoft is hiring ID Software Team back for any cross platform PC cum Moba exprience that's another topic, right now, I am enjoying DI as much and as long as I can.
I think Diablo Immortal is going to be one of those 10 year games. Its the best thing on mobile and its not even close.
Absoultely agree. And I am saying that as primary PC player. Game is incredible, community is great, matchmaking is awesome.
Not even close . Loving it
Just don't spend money on it, because that aspect of it is predatory AF.
For me the biggest problem with the PC client is, that i don't have the same freedom to map my controller buttons like i can on LDPlayer. And i can't resize the window easily and to which size ever i want. If they fix that i would be happy but for now i prefer the mobile client, even though i play on PC.
Gave this a like Echo, glad your still here!
They need to figure out a way to help new players more. Even if new players can level up, they are way behind in gems and Horadrim. Find a way to let clan members help new people.
Many people laughing when you talk about Diablo Immortal but this game is a Ultra in Gaming today. Nothing can come close to this beast of Game in this category. Like your words bro it’s a PC game over to a Mobile game. Even if you play 4K 120 this game looks crazy good and brings much of fun. You have tons of work to develop your char. I hope they don’t break it with wrong Updates like in WoW. The Community is still very great and helpful. So thank you for your great work on this channel and for this Game Echo ✌🏼
Has blizzard thought about making a WoW mobile again? Order and chaos was the mobile version and it's gone. The ones I've found like it are really nothing in comparison. Really hoping they make one someday soon!
It will last but there will appear more and more bots cus things like bg,Tower war, conquest and example random dungs can basically only be played at the most active 2-3 times a day.. the overall activity is diving down and especially now with summer comming up.. we will see it live long for sure but we be seeing more and more bots witch is the only way to play at the least inactive times on the days
And along with that more and more ppl move servers and or dropping the game for other games.. hey ppl even going over to BDO just for the grind it gives... And one thing thats comming out more and more is that u can be at high cr and grind for 3-4 weeks daily without getting an upgrade leggo now who wants to do that anymore. Almoast no one.. and this blizz needs to fix if they wanna keep the players playing and activity up..drop rates needs a fix in spesifically the part upgrades..... They have a moving max cr for the difficulty lvl so if u got high reso = less cr from leggos for example whales vs low reso gets higher cr gears.. so if one is at per say 37000 cr ull get nothing thru i6 till the end of it or till u start prefarm
It would be cool if a player could feed the fish they catch to upgrade their familiars. I think this would make both features more relevant.
As long DI keep up with new contents preferably new maps, quests and maybe an expansion of it's own I have little doubt the game will stay for the long run. In fact what makes it very successful is the ability to play on mobile. There millions of players in China alone with their very own server and that goes to the rest of the world. This is the key to gaming and i have always said MOBILE GAMING IS THE FUTURE. this also due to the fact that mobile phones have become more powerful even to the extent of rivaling a pc or console gaming platform.
Good Video Echo! (Gerry from your Warcraft Rumble Clan :D)
Hi echo always watching ur vids👊
After a few months of a lot of fun, I stopped altogether. I was competitive even being a low spender, was always within top 10 or top 5 in Battlegrounds, clan turned immortal and I was one of the main players in clan wars, but it became a “non remunerated job”, and this is the reason why. To keep up with so many updates and such fast increasing in new stuff, you either spend hours a day playing it or you are left behind. I got sick and couldn’t play for 3 days, I was already unbelievably behind. So, yeah, if you got nothing else to do in your life, go for it and you will have a blast. If you have anything else meaningful in real life, do not get into it.
It very much depends whether they start fixing stuff or not. It's good they pump out lots of content, but IMO they should take a page from D4 devs book - communicate with players and fix stuff that is broken. So far they refuse to do either (paragon and difficulty revamps are a good start, but we need more). It just creates the impression that they simply don't care about anything other than money and makes players frustrated.
Crazy that I saw you in my rift this morning 🤯
so crazy bro
Was there any reason as to why players aren’t able to trade for legendary’s with each other?
The game is doing well, but they need to bridge the gap between lower spenders vs heavy spenders. I believe crests and gems should be shared between characters at least give us lower spenders a chance to compete against the whales.
The whales are literally paying for a competitive advantage that’s the point of pay to play. Think of it as a cheat code the more you spend the more cheating you’re allowed blizzard isn’t going to change that it would literally kill the incentive to spend.
What’s the point of grinding a game to get better gear when all the PVE content is faceroll easy. The games that have longevity have great pvp. This games pvp is strictly pay to win. Someone with 7k res will one shot someone with 2k res. You bring up clash of clans which is strictly a pvp game that has major tournaments. This game will never have the potential of irl tournaments and thus will not last.
It lasted longer than what people were saying, it will last easily over 10+ years, stop thinking like a console gamer in a mobile market.
lol. I mean if I had 7k res I’d think it’s fun to one shot people too. If you think running same dungeon over again for no reason is fun get after it girl.
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Logged in today and there was a message that said change is coming to the inferno system.
I think this new patch will make or break the game. When WOW changed the talent tree in the 3rd expansion, I really did not like the game play style anymore. I am not sure how the new Paragon system is going to change the game, but if it minimizes the play style as WOW did, I am, not sure if I will continue to love the game. I still played WOW up until the last expansion.
I like the change in difficulties. 100 lvl between the 2 diff isnt enough time to get items with the right stats that we wannt
Summoner's war is also a 10 year old game
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I think the key to lasting right now is server merges/server consolidation. In my opinion this is still a better game than D4.
You keep on saying Diablo Immortal is for casual gaming and Diablo4 is not cause it is played in PC but here you are playing DI in PC. There are a lot of bugs in DI that were not addressed such as pet dupes and normal gem dupes. So many unexplained bans all throughout different regions. Players are cheating via scripts.
In game shop is predatory at its finest. You spend a ton of money on a game that does this and you think this game will survive for a very long time? What a bias take. You earn from this game so you say what suits the best for the game.
Habonis' content is a lot better.
Great video Echo! I completely agree!
Don't forget that the last developer video put out said its reaching end game. So end is coming. Will it die that's another question.
I believe it's going to be around for another 10 years or more
My Best MMo Mobile game DI❤❤
Never missed Veil or Darth then now to hear an honest opinion on this games health. Instead you have blizzards mouthpiece telling us the game isn't shit.
I’m not quite sure I agree with “it’s growing every day”. Our server sees fewer and fewer players everyday. Ten minute waits on battle ground isn’t uncommon. Chatter about server merge is common. The number of players no longer doing PVP continues to grow. They diluted the legendary gems with so many new ones that upgrading takes forever gaining enough pearls to make gems to up. I finally accepted the futility of a free to play scaling up anything other than rank ones and twos which is perfectly fine for PvE but falls kinda short in PvP. The supposed equalizer game Brawl is even not quite what they say it is. Whales with unkillable one shot builds in BG are just as dominant in Brawl. The free player is just something for the whales to beat up on to make themselves feel good about spending 50K on a cartoon character so blizzard will never jeopardize that imbalance.
I disagree with brawl, find a good build and good teammates and you can put down any “whale” as long as you play smart
ECHO i do think it will last easily over 10+ years, mostly because the mobile market is not the same as the console market. It lasted longer than what people were saying. If it's still making money, it will last, and in the mobile market, there are BIG spender and many people spending at the same time. This is only here in the americas, we shouldn't forget there is CHINA aswell.
POE is much more [too] complex, so I think majority of players like me, will not be switching from DI to POE. I think the majority of DI players if switching to anything will only switch to DI2! :D
It's normal that you don't mind investing money in diablo immortal you earn from the game.
Easy 10 year game. Wish they'd develop a native client for Mac though. Doesn't seem it'd take much more effort already being on ipad/iphone. PoE mobile, yea we'll see if it turns out to be vaporware or not.
I also love the mobile experience 😊
They have not been making this better and better. It’s getting worse and worse. I get that it’s p2w but they still should give us lower spenders or f2p more oppurtunities. Since they did the first major update almost 4 updates ago I have not been in Legend once for pvp and I used to be one of the top 10 on my server even tho my res is only 5k. I will see how this update goes tomorrow but I’m pretty sure that’s going to be the end of Diablo for me. Been playing Dungeon Hunter 6 and I’ve been enjoying so far.
Two years? Won’t be so save all this to reflect
I refuse to spend $1 on this game they need catch up mechanics for gear
The game has lost 90% of its playerbase since launch. Your opinion is optimistic at best.
I'm an avid med-spender gamer, and after the new season, I have decided to stop spending. What's the point? I still love the game and would continue to play casually, but I am never going to spend a single dime on this greedy game.
Every PC game is mobile now since the legion go came out
funny isnt some DI content creators moving from DI to D4 and D4 betrays them
It's going to b a forever game like dota....once u feel it u accept it and once u accept it age doesn't matter
Man you’re starting to sound like you sold out to Diablo. You support paying for something that the devs can change at any given moment? Not only is our money invested but how about our time? Is that not worth anything? It’s actually the true value in games. How many players invest their time on it. Not money. If the game can get players to invest time, the money eventually follows
I use to hage diablo immortal cause the high priced phantom market then you loook at wzm and every other big game even marvel snap they all have high priceed stuff and some pay to ein element to it lol
Diablo 2 got 2 classes in the L.O.D update... Although they both sucked when released where the BK was OP right off the bat!!
Absolute mug ! 😂
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Been proven wrong because of channels like this no offense. It’s nothing more than a P2W pos. Nothing matters when you use money to progress in a game. It’s corny honestly. Played this game for almost a year sick of it
But killing game is typical chinese game/devs😂
Pfff your
Are paid for saying this. The fall of the game is coming
1st
PC MASTERRACE 4ever. the game was shit on pc for a year and a masterpiece for the second year
The little red diamond shape thing on the upper right corner on the menu, is that a notification? I clicked it and nothing shows unread or pending to open? No new mail...skills...etc...🤔..🌮🍕🍿🧈🧂🥤
Are you speaking as a rpg gamer or as a diablo immortal partner when saying all this?
Pfff your
Are paid for saying this. The fall of the game is coming