One of the greatest bands of all time and criminally underrated. Had the pleasure of seeing them live many times and they never disappointed. Exceptional musicianship and with JW's excellent gritty vocals, their live shows displayed an energy and authority that few could match, then or now. Thank you, BrunoSamppa for a small but exquisite sample of their live craft.
I saw them at Doncaster Top Rank , after Egg opened and Yes headlined. They played on the ballroom floor , in the round , and were stunning…..even after Yes !
Wow - I missed these guys when they toured here. "Your City Is Falling" is awesome - great solos by all (especially future Foreigner timekeeper Dennis Eliot), and J.W. sings his ass off. Thanks so much for posting this!!
Really great footage. A real idea of what the 70s UK University circuit will have been like for your jobbing underground combo. The audience shots are priceless. Anyone know what TV programme this was made for?
Saw them in Chicago in 1970. On a bill featuring Quatermass, Mylon, Skid Row (original Irish), headlining Ten Years after 5 bands $4.00. Every band was excellent! This song sounds a lot like Rory Gallagher's Blister on the Moon
In 1972 Dick Morrissey fell ill and the band subsequently dissolved. Oddly, Morrissey reformed If the next year with new musicians, recording three further albums. “They tried to persuade me to do it but I was tired and was drinking too much and didn’t want to,” says Smith. “I’d seen what travelling on the road did to people and I didn’t want it.” Following the original If’s demise drummer Dennis Elliott managed to make the really big time as an original member of the US-based Foreigner who had hits such as the worldwide number one I Want To Know What Love Is. “About two years later he was in Britain and he says ‘Come and see the show.’ So I went and there were all these 200-watt amps and they stuck it up and I thought ‘No, I can’t have this.’ It was absolutely impossible and I just left!” chuckles Smith. “No wonder they’re all stone deaf!” Meanwhile the guitarist joined Zzebra, whose music contained African influences, along with Dave Quincy and Osibisa saxophonist Loughty Amao, and played on the band’s self-titled debut album. “Zzebra wasn’t really my music but it was fun,” reflects Smith. “But I didn’t last long because three years on the road with If was very, very tiring and I’d had enough. And the band all liked a joint and I didn’t so there was just a parting of the ways!” ‘I now play a cheap Gibson copy, an Epiphone. It’s 500 quid and I’m quite happy. It’s bloody heavy but it’s got a wonderful neck, a narrow neck and it suits me because I’m not a big man’ All the way through If and Zzebra and beyond Smith played a Gibson 330. “I loved it but it got stolen so I ended up with a 125 which I wasn’t very happy with. And then a guitar geezer sold me a Gibson 175 which was beautiful but you can’t take it on gigs. If you leave it, it’s stolen. I mean, you’re talking six, seven, eight, 10 grand. So I now play a cheap Gibson copy, an Epiphone. It’s 500 quid and I’m quite happy. It’s bloody heavy but it’s got a wonderful neck, a narrow neck and it suits me because I’m not a big man.” In 2015 Dave Quincy recruited Smith for an If reunion which produced the If 5 album but Smith found the experience unsatisfying and the band didn’t gig. The London-based Smith is now 79, and his days of major touring are long behind him. He does continue to work on the British jazz scene but he recently endured a short period in hospital. “I’m doing probably two or three gigs a month. I did a gig in Worthing with Dave Quincy last night and I’m knackered. I wasn’t at my good standard because I was still suffering from this illness and in the second set I was running out of steam. “I enjoyed it, but the journey home in the rain was a bloody nightmare and I thought to myself ‘I’m not getting any younger. What the fuck am I doing this for?’ It’s fine if you’re working with your own band which I always did before, like with Tony Lee and If and even Zzebra - people you got on with and you had a social band. But a lot of the jazz musicians I knew and used to play with, they’re all dead. I haven’t got anybody to play with.”
@@gelubatir9794 THANK YOU SO MUCH For this post,i am still a big fan of IF,and i play the albums from time to time,they are still fresh and uplifting.I last saw terry smith in a pub in stoke area back in the late eighties and he was great to talk to,he seemed pleased that i remembered his playing with IF.if he is still playing an odd gig somewhere i would love to go and hear him play again.thanks again.
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One of the greatest bands of all time and criminally underrated. Had the pleasure of seeing them live many times and they never disappointed. Exceptional musicianship and with JW's excellent gritty vocals, their live shows displayed an energy and authority that few could match, then or now. Thank you, BrunoSamppa for a small but exquisite sample of their live craft.
No software, just hardware. Brilliant!
All of their first three albums were resounding masterpieces
brilliant,,one of my all time fave bands,,a great group of musicians
Fantastic rare live record recover!
One of the best bands that nobody has heard of.
I can see and hear why? Just awful.
Bit too advanced for you@@geraldroraback5432
Priceless footage, great versions of their IF 2 songs, thanks for sharing as I got to see them once at the Fillmore East.
Loved these guys from the 1st album this band blew the other Jazz-Rock groups away too bad they never got the fame and recognition they deserved
I don't remember seeing Dave Quincy playing tenor very often in that classic original lineup.
Life and Love are sacred.
The great Dick Morrissey is on soprano sax in the first number.
Dennis Elliot ... later of “FOREIGNER”.. on drums....
cool drummer
I saw them at Doncaster Top Rank , after Egg opened and Yes headlined. They played on the ballroom floor , in the round , and were stunning…..even after Yes !
Great time of music thank you all 🙏🙏🥁🍾🍾🤘🤘
Just found this gem. One of my favourite bands back then. They did 2 later albums with the great Geoff Whitehorn on guitar. Can be found on RUclips
Great performance, Cuz!
grande Bruno
Wow - I missed these guys when they toured here. "Your City Is Falling" is awesome - great solos by all (especially future Foreigner timekeeper Dennis Eliot), and J.W. sings his ass off.
Thanks so much for posting this!!
Really great footage. A real idea of what the 70s UK University circuit will have been like for your jobbing underground combo. The audience shots are priceless. Anyone know what TV programme this was made for?
Excellent 😊
Saw them in Chicago in 1970. On a bill featuring Quatermass, Mylon, Skid Row (original Irish), headlining Ten Years after 5 bands $4.00. Every band was excellent! This song sounds a lot like Rory Gallagher's Blister on the Moon
Never heard of them.
Terry Smith, the guitar player par excellence. What happened to him after IF disbanded?
In 1972 Dick Morrissey fell ill and the band subsequently dissolved. Oddly, Morrissey reformed If the next year with new musicians, recording three further albums. “They tried to persuade me to do it but I was tired and was drinking too much and didn’t want to,” says Smith. “I’d seen what travelling on the road did to people and I didn’t want it.”
Following the original If’s demise drummer Dennis Elliott managed to make the really big time as an original member of the US-based Foreigner who had hits such as the worldwide number one I Want To Know What Love Is. “About two years later he was in Britain and he says ‘Come and see the show.’ So I went and there were all these 200-watt amps and they stuck it up and I thought ‘No, I can’t have this.’ It was absolutely impossible and I just left!” chuckles Smith. “No wonder they’re all stone deaf!”
Meanwhile the guitarist joined Zzebra, whose music contained African influences, along with Dave Quincy and Osibisa saxophonist Loughty Amao, and played on the band’s self-titled debut album. “Zzebra wasn’t really my music but it was fun,” reflects Smith. “But I didn’t last long because three years on the road with If was very, very tiring and I’d had enough. And the band all liked a joint and I didn’t so there was just a parting of the ways!”
‘I now play a cheap Gibson copy, an Epiphone. It’s 500 quid and I’m quite happy. It’s bloody heavy but it’s got a wonderful neck, a narrow neck and it suits me because I’m not a big man’
All the way through If and Zzebra and beyond Smith played a Gibson 330. “I loved it but it got stolen so I ended up with a 125 which I wasn’t very happy with. And then a guitar geezer sold me a Gibson 175 which was beautiful but you can’t take it on gigs. If you leave it, it’s stolen. I mean, you’re talking six, seven, eight, 10 grand. So I now play a cheap Gibson copy, an Epiphone. It’s 500 quid and I’m quite happy. It’s bloody heavy but it’s got a wonderful neck, a narrow neck and it suits me because I’m not a big man.”
In 2015 Dave Quincy recruited Smith for an If reunion which produced the If 5 album but Smith found the experience unsatisfying and the band didn’t gig.
The London-based Smith is now 79, and his days of major touring are long behind him. He does continue to work on the British jazz scene but he recently endured a short period in hospital. “I’m doing probably two or three gigs a month. I did a gig in Worthing with Dave Quincy last night and I’m knackered. I wasn’t at my good standard because I was still suffering from this illness and in the second set I was running out of steam.
“I enjoyed it, but the journey home in the rain was a bloody nightmare and I thought to myself ‘I’m not getting any younger. What the fuck am I doing this for?’ It’s fine if you’re working with your own band which I always did before, like with Tony Lee and If and even Zzebra - people you got on with and you had a social band. But a lot of the jazz musicians I knew and used to play with, they’re all dead. I haven’t got anybody to play with.”
@@gelubatir9794 Thank you for the info. :)
Vielen Dank für die ausführliche Info.
@@gelubatir9794 thanks for all your detailed thoughts!!
@@gelubatir9794 THANK YOU SO MUCH For this post,i am still a big fan of IF,and i play the albums from time to time,they are still fresh and uplifting.I last saw terry smith in a pub in stoke area back in the late eighties and he was great to talk to,he seemed pleased that i remembered his playing with IF.if he is still playing an odd gig somewhere i would love to go and hear him play again.thanks again.
Aside from the yellow pants, the singer is reminiscent of Roger Daltrey! Cool.
That's a great comment, he's my dad's cousin John. I'd loved to have met him
@@mossy2209 Wonderful singer, great expressive power - and hugely underrated. May God rest him.
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